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Why is the OnePlus Keyboard so Weird? 

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In this clip, Marques and Andrew talk about the new OnePlus Keyboard that was announced. There are two versions and the naming makes no sense, but it seems cool!
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@marcj3846
@marcj3846 Год назад
I thought the new co host articulated the points very well, made a lot of sense with just expressions 10/10
@bradleyandrews2444
@bradleyandrews2444 Год назад
i love the new co host dont get rid of him pls
@avondmaaltje
@avondmaaltje Год назад
New?? Andrew has been here since the beginning
@user-me1mv4vy9q
@user-me1mv4vy9q Год назад
@@avondmaaltje who?
@n0nenone
@n0nenone Год назад
He cute lol
@AvastarBin
@AvastarBin Год назад
@@user-me1mv4vy9q the dog
@StyneRR
@StyneRR Год назад
@@avondmaaltjeJij hebt de hele video dus niet eens afgekeken...
@Skullroxeur
@Skullroxeur Год назад
This new co-host guy is great ! You should definitely keep him in the team. He has great arguments and insight 10/10
@Legojunkie
@Legojunkie Год назад
It looks like this keyboard is based on the Keychron Q1 pro which retails for $199. We can probably expect some additional cost on top of that so I’m leaning towards $300.
@okamisamakun
@okamisamakun Год назад
Holy hell $300, you can get a QK75 including switches and keycaps with that price.
@Legojunkie
@Legojunkie Год назад
@@okamisamakun sure! But it doesn’t have the OnePlus logo on it, and it’s not an in stock board.
@andrewr_
@andrewr_ Год назад
@@okamisamakun I got a first batch QK65 and it’s such a good bang for the buck. Extremely high quality, a pleasure to use every time I sit in front of my pc.
@decisive-dolphin
@decisive-dolphin Год назад
Bro the Q1 is what i'm using right now. It is SO good. If this shit is $300, you might be best getting your out of touch red and blue switch keyboard somewhere else
@StaceyAyodele
@StaceyAyodele Год назад
$300 for a keyboard? No. I would never. Most I'd pay is $100-$200 $300 is asking too much.
@Thekidisalright
@Thekidisalright Год назад
You co host is the best. He’s quiet, professional and very suave.
@slavboii420
@slavboii420 Год назад
I think the pricing would be $250-300 as the Q1 can go to like $200 on its own, so we have to add in the customisations that OnePlus did
@marrywhannah
@marrywhannah Год назад
I love the clips channel content as it helps me catch up if I miss any episodes. But, Adam I have a suggestion. I heard from an editor when posting clips from long format videos, you should always take them from videos which are at least 2 weeks old as it helps the algorithm. Like, I already watched the podcast of this week, so I don't necessarily need to watch this (but still gonna). But, if it's a clip about something a little older, then I might wanna rewatch it through here. Like, example, the Polestar conversation. Just a thought. I don't know if it makes sense. Maybe, I am just dumb.
@exturkconner
@exturkconner Год назад
The q1 with knob fully assembled switches, and caps is 189. If I had to guess this will be more. The metal stand bar and the unique in house switches and caps. Probably 220-240. If they did a bare bones version of the kit it would probably be more like 200 even.
@instagramsnapchat
@instagramsnapchat Год назад
To be honest the naming *kinda* makes sense because bonfire is red and breeze is blue, still would make more sense the other way around for winter and summer though, and swapping the colors for clicky and linear is just criminal. So many people are probably gonna buy the wrong one because of that.
@noenken
@noenken Год назад
So, it's a keychron except for the caps, the switches, the color variants, any customization options or sensible naming schemes. For all those things you don't get you're then supposedly expected to shell out more money. But at least they also put a branding label on it so all your friends can make fun of you for buying it. ..... Cool. xD
@helloxonsfan
@helloxonsfan Год назад
*Great points! What's also weird... is that companies decided to get rid of the number pad section on their keyboards ...AND... not allow any other option for that function...!!!!!*
@noenken
@noenken Год назад
@@helloxonsfan Keychron has all sizes covered, with or without numberpad. I have a Q3 (that's one without) because I like to have more space for the mouse to game. But I have a cheapo standalone USB numberpad as well. It's just OnePlus doing all this weird sh...
@impointr
@impointr Год назад
@@helloxonsfan Or, hear me out on this: buy a keyboard that has the numpad. Keychron offer that already as pointed out on the comment above mine. It's called preference. I personally can't stand a keyboard with a numpad especially if it's on the right side of it. P.S.: You can literally map keys to use as a numpad with the press of the fn key. The option is there. If you don't want to take it, buy something else from the same company, or another product.
@helloxonsfan
@helloxonsfan Год назад
@@impointr ... I get what you're saying... but I use ASCII characters a lot, & also do a lot of quick calculations... it's just so much more easier to access all that with a handy Number Pad than without. I have a stand alone Number Pad, plus a separate keyboard with one. But it's inconvenient to keep switching since I'd have to do that quite often!
@impointr
@impointr Год назад
@@helloxonsfan Again, you can still buy custom keyboard kits with an included numpad. These still exist and will still exist, either in the form of the classic 100% layout, or a compact 96% format. The awesome people at Nuphy just started selling their Air96 and Halo96 for instance, and KBDfans released the absolutely gorgeous Odin V2 last year, with Keychron offering their own 100% and 96% keyboards in their Q series.
@roqzee3082
@roqzee3082 Год назад
Love the cohost ❤ You need to give it an entire segment.
@Marbeary
@Marbeary Год назад
If you are familiar with other switches color name is arbitrary but the classification is important (tactile ,linear clicky) naming a tactile as bonfire that is normal. And keycaps are always sold by pack there are a few that sell the space, enter shift caps separately. The one I am more concerned is why are they making keyboards are phones not profitable for them???
@finaathehuman
@finaathehuman Год назад
Phenomenal cohost. standing ovation 👏👏👏
@MrOscar5690
@MrOscar5690 Год назад
The ending hahaha with.. “15% of my diet is cholula” in the background haha
@HipyoTech
@HipyoTech Год назад
Can I come on for a keyboard segment?
@ft.anirxddh
@ft.anirxddh Год назад
Vouch.
@supahas3821
@supahas3821 Год назад
Vouch +1
@slavboii420
@slavboii420 Год назад
Hipyo ftw babyyy
@turnerbrian
@turnerbrian Год назад
Now imagine if BlackBerry joined the mechanical keyboard market.
@houghwhite411
@houghwhite411 Год назад
Uh dude, Blackberry best keyboard on phones
@ethancarey6611
@ethancarey6611 Год назад
I kinda get what they were going for on the keycaps, at least as far as being consistent with the naming. Bonfire is centered and almost looks like rising action from the center to top and breeze goes side to side with the greys accenting the ends
@ryuuseiSoul
@ryuuseiSoul Год назад
Keychron does the same thing with the keycap colours being sent with the switch/type of board you buy, btw.
@kaimuu
@kaimuu Год назад
on which ones does it work like that? I just looked and all of their keyboards either have seperate color options regardless of what switch you want or they are the same color for every switch
@todwstam
@todwstam Год назад
i mean the packaged keycap colours are pretty common in keyboards,,, keychron does it as far as i know, when i had the different versions of the keyboard i accidentally got different coloured keycaps at the end.
@helloxonsfan
@helloxonsfan Год назад
*When did companies decide to get rid of the number pad section on their keyboards ...AND... not allow any other option for that function...???!!!!! That's also weird...!!!*
@TheMrleeyang
@TheMrleeyang Год назад
most people have little to no use for number pad honestly.
@helloxonsfan
@helloxonsfan Год назад
@@TheMrleeyang ... Even if that's true & only a minority of users are interested in the Number Pad, considering all the keyboards in the world, that would still be a very large number of people. Remember, a small percent of a very large number is still a large number...!!! 👍🏽
@slavboii420
@slavboii420 Год назад
@@helloxonsfan You can get an external number pad if you want ...or there are full-sized keyboards as well. They are just a little hard to find due to the enthusiast layouts
@helloxonsfan
@helloxonsfan Год назад
@@slavboii420 ... Yep! I have a stand alone Number Pad AND an additional keyboard. However, I use ASCII characters & do quick calculations a lot... & so it'd be a bit inconvenient to always have to switch back-and-forth between all that equipment!!!
@ricardoluise
@ricardoluise Год назад
for me the first seconds of the video o noticed that the lips are not fully sync with the voice, but that fixed during the video Not sure if that is on the video or my browser plugin mess up i n the beginning and adjust itself
@discovertech843
@discovertech843 Год назад
The co-host seems to know lots about the topic and I think that he would be a good fit for the waveform podcast
@TREXftjytiotlod
@TREXftjytiotlod Год назад
Do a discussion on pixel 7 vs OnePlus 11
@p.e.r.c.y
@p.e.r.c.y Год назад
Switches can be pretty cheap to replace. I would go the keycaps you like and then swap out the switches.
@Katherine_Pan
@Katherine_Pan Год назад
idk red for bondfire and blue for breeze seem quite natural to me...just take out the summer and winter part😂
@Zetraxes
@Zetraxes Год назад
what im wondering what new keyboard is he using in his MKBHD vidoes right now cuz its not the one he used before
@VENOMTECH
@VENOMTECH Год назад
As a kb guy I can tell you it won't be less than 150usd cause it looks based on the keychron q1 and with the extra custom work done I think it's gonna be 180 to 250
@KamenMinkov
@KamenMinkov Год назад
This is kind of like mouse/keyboard focused companies jumping into audio.
@sanjeevansinha7023
@sanjeevansinha7023 Год назад
says they are Hot-swappable on the customization tab
@alixmorii6037
@alixmorii6037 Год назад
Did you know it goes vertical to give you more desk space? Kinda surprised they didn't touch on that
@horseypeeps5382
@horseypeeps5382 Год назад
At a minimum, it will be $199.00 (same as the Q1), but I agree with an earlier post that it will be north of $250.00
@jBirchtree8978
@jBirchtree8978 Год назад
I think the colors of the switch being opposite make sense, kinda.. Bonfire is a tactical switch since fire pops.Hence why you get the bump. Summer Breeze is linear, since a breeze is smooth. Just my assumption on how I thought about it lol
@Alltorn-N56
@Alltorn-N56 Год назад
I went onto their website and the stems in their switches are the same in the renders. If the switches are just going to be linear this sucks. I hope it was just an oversight.
@josuad6890
@josuad6890 Год назад
nah my dude. man's gotta respect the standard. blue's for clicky, and red's linear, that's it. maybe if you want to make a pink or other dumb colors, then whatever, be my guest. But not the 3 classic colors.
@DylanM15
@DylanM15 Год назад
A keyboard from the company that was known for key logging on their phones. The jokes just write themselves now.
@Alltorn-N56
@Alltorn-N56 Год назад
They don't manufacture their own switches and if they are going the route of Keychron they will use Gaterons which are more reliable Cherry switches. I can't wait for them to screw this up.
@retardmoguss
@retardmoguss Год назад
it has open source firmware compatiability, i would not be worried about keylogging
@joke967
@joke967 Год назад
What's about the OnePlus 11r
@PhilSledge
@PhilSledge Год назад
I would like the team to review the Apple online store and each item on the store and who is buying the older tech which is still being sold by Apple. Furthermore, does the team have any ideas about what happens to this old tech when it is removed from the site.
@lamanienoob
@lamanienoob Год назад
I feel the price will be higher cause q1 pro is at 200$ so the actuall price will be closer to that. The full aluminium case and new switch key cap manufacturing might add to that
@deniskovach1967
@deniskovach1967 Год назад
Design like in xtrfy k4 retro?
@JimIBobIJones
@JimIBobIJones Год назад
Rumor is that its being made by Keychron - which is fairly believable given how the features and the OS switch area looks identical to a Q1 pro.
@Wuzzup129
@Wuzzup129 Год назад
What I'm taking away from the names OnePlus did for the switches is that the colors correspond to the second part of the names. Red for Bonfire and Blue for Breeze. Not Summer and Winter respectively. But yes, everything else is weird.
@David-dd9zn
@David-dd9zn Год назад
Red - clicky sound that bonfire makes (fire is red) Blue - summer breeze (ocean, beach, wind, water all kind of makes you think of blueish color)
@SebastianBean
@SebastianBean Год назад
Keychron Q3?
@assafurzaman2278
@assafurzaman2278 Год назад
I think the color of the switches focuses on the later part of their names-Bonfire🔴 Breeze🔵
@jameslenney
@jameslenney Год назад
If only they knew this much about important things.
@U2haveanicedayty2
@U2haveanicedayty2 Год назад
Awesome Podcast Guy’s. Thanks so much for sharing.And Your Cuteness Co-Host definitely needs his own Chair.✌️
@raminkah
@raminkah Год назад
In all fairness, a winter bonfire would have crackling fire sounds, and a summer breeze is supposed to be smooth, so I'd argue the naming is pretty good.
@Sylar2112i
@Sylar2112i Год назад
Now I would like their thoughts on the Asus Azoth keyboard, which the kb community actually seems to like
@jGRite
@jGRite Год назад
As soon as I saw it I though, "oh I already have a Q1, I'm good thanks. Let me know how that tablet turns out"
@daboy135
@daboy135 Год назад
Best co host ever!!!
@B-Amir
@B-Amir Год назад
More air time for the new co-host please
@philipp594
@philipp594 Год назад
Time for a MKBH edition Keycult ...
@Dakshninja007
@Dakshninja007 Год назад
Love ur video. Love from India
@apoorv_mc
@apoorv_mc Год назад
The red blue colour assignment got me so mad my god
@Flash_Flood
@Flash_Flood Год назад
Can you guys get into high end custom mechanical keyboards? It's such an interesting niche
@silentKeys20
@silentKeys20 Год назад
It won't fit the channel. High end keyboards are mostly just valued for their aesthetic, tech wise there's almost no breakthrough. Most customs use QMK/VIA which is open sourced since most studios don't write their own software. Changing mounting styles and build materials is interesting for people in the hobby, but from outside it seems pointless.
@slavboii420
@slavboii420 Год назад
@@silentKeys20 I think something like the Wooting 60HE can make a good video though
@tonton9598
@tonton9598 Год назад
why do I get the feeling this will end up like the NZXT mech keyboards? But I'm sure productivity junkies will buy this and love it regardless. It looks sleek but also stylish
@daivdninjabiomech7888
@daivdninjabiomech7888 Год назад
The keyboard looks like the podcast set
@benjamin5370
@benjamin5370 Год назад
I feel like the name is supposed to mean, “keyboard featuring oneplus” they just switched the word order but it still means the same thing. So someone else is making this keyboard and oneplus is featuring on it with its branding.
@asifmohamed5348
@asifmohamed5348 Год назад
It looks like the name is Keyboard 81 pro
@its_Arpn
@its_Arpn Год назад
OnePlus featuring - Keyboard 81
@akaRAIJIN
@akaRAIJIN Год назад
I wouldnt buy this but assuming its hotswap most people would just buy the board in the colour they want and pull out those switches and replace them (a lot of nice ones are VERY cheap* nowadays)
@TohsakaRinsThighs
@TohsakaRinsThighs Год назад
If the board is based on the Q1 by Keychron (which is most likely the case), then it's gonna be in the 170-200$ range, if I had to guess
@AWriterWandering
@AWriterWandering Год назад
I think it’s based on the Q1 pro actually. Which would bump up the price to 300. Though you often pay for the brand with these things.
@buddhavskungfu
@buddhavskungfu Год назад
Don't come to Phoenix expecting your sushi roll to not have mayonnaise in it by default.
@ZeldaVStheworld
@ZeldaVStheworld Год назад
Keychron is a great brand to get started in the keeb hobby. It spoils people with in stock options instead of group buys or raffles
@slavboii420
@slavboii420 Год назад
Yes, this is so true. Just look at the price of a Keychron V1!
@D-One
@D-One Год назад
Confused mode achieved.
@Dogen70
@Dogen70 Год назад
You got to say the whole thing like A Tribe Called Quest
@leFauxVersa
@leFauxVersa Год назад
Coming from custom keyboards, switch colors doesn't make sense anymore (thanks to cherry Mx patent expiry), we rely on switch names to differentiate them, even on a same type actuation profile, feel and sound of the switch can differ quite a bit. For the keycaps, they are using standard cherry Mx stems, so you can swap the keycaps easily, i would assume the "marble-mallow" keycaps are made out of some kind of ABS since this plastic provides deeper sounding keys.
@allentastic
@allentastic Год назад
We WILL be honest… new cohost? Straight up 🔥 🐐 tier. Instant classic.
@MagnificentPez
@MagnificentPez Год назад
As someone who's into custom keyboards, the Cherry colour standard is pointless for anything that isn't Cherry or the most basic Kailh and Gateron switches. As for not being able to pick switches and keycaps however you want is very dumb. They've taken the custom out of custom keyboards in that sense. Everything else seems to be up to Keychrons standard these days. South-facing switches, seamless wireless switching, USB-C. Something I noticed is that this is the first Keychron board to come stock with a Polycarbonate plate, contain sound absorbing foam(very necessary for their older boards if you want a good sound), and it's also the first all metal board like the Q series from them that comes in wireless. Only real downside to the build is that it's US only layout, so anyone using ISO which is most of Europe couldn't use the board even by changing keycaps. Though I think it's not available here anyway.
@pepe38
@pepe38 Год назад
Love the new co-host!
@TjPhysicist
@TjPhysicist Год назад
Or is the keyboard just called "81" (which is the percentage) and the full name is oneplus featuring "keyboard 81", so like featuring isn't part of the name just saying that OnePlus is featuring
@MikeG1111_
@MikeG1111_ Год назад
Totally agree with Marques and Andrew on this keyboard. Interesting design, but too limited and quirky on the knob, switch and keycap options for my money. But I have a request for Marques and the team. Could you please talk about why-despite the almost infinite variation and options in the mechanical keyboard world-spotting a dodo bird is easier than finding low-profile mechanical keyboards with an ergonomic layout (split or Alice). Imagine a slimmer Keychron Q10 with low-profile switches and keycaps or a split(able) NuPhy Air 75! It would be aimed mostly at the non-gaming world I think, but look at how many millions are already accustomed to super low-profile keyboards on laptops, MacBooks, and iPad/tablet keyboard cases-not to mention the Apple Magic Keyboard. I've written to Apple, Keychron and NuPhy, but so far feeling like a voice in the wilderness...
@TheMrleeyang
@TheMrleeyang Год назад
split and alice are the smallest minority. Most wont make any money catering to this group of people. Just because people make noise does not equal to real business sense why more manufacturers should make them.
@MikeG1111_
@MikeG1111_ Год назад
​@@TheMrleeyang The fact that businesses need to make a profit and ergonomic mechanicals are a tiny selection of available designs is the obvious part. Fortunately, visionary designers and innovative businesses like Keychron see beyond this simplistic view of how the market looks today. Keyboards like Keychron Q10 and Q8 and Alice layout in general are still relatively new. They don't even appear in big store websites like Amazon or Best Buy yet (last time I checked). Even with availability only direct from the manufacturer, it would be interesting to know how well these models are selling so far. We can see countless examples of low-volume variations being manufactured and sold in the mechanical keyboard world. How will anyone ever know how well a low-profile Alice or split will sell if it's not even available or visible to the broader market? Notice that big companies like Microsoft and Logitech have manufactured split ergonomic designs for many years now. They wouldn't continue unless it made business sense. Let's just say what looks like a laughable, impractical, daydream or "noise" to one person, can be seen as untapped potential to another.
@chrisperrywv
@chrisperrywv Год назад
I wonder if marketing just messed up and got the naming backwards?
@br5632
@br5632 Год назад
It’s tactful if they wanted people to talk about it?
@ZulqarnainAidil
@ZulqarnainAidil Год назад
I wonder if OnePlus is trying very hard to avoid any kind of copyright because they’re not just some random keyboard company from China, it’s a large tech company from China that probably has an office in Europe maybe. I know that the patent is expired or something and it’s like an open license but a large company probably wants to cover their butts. But the naming of everything is so weird, it’s like they’ve subscribed to Goop.
@NotCerius
@NotCerius Год назад
You guys should review the OnePlus Monitor. I am even willing to send you one from India if you pay for the shipping and the product.
@JanosKehl
@JanosKehl Год назад
What a sweet co-host.
@k3eisiho3ard
@k3eisiho3ard Год назад
So this could possibly be a Mazda MazdaSpeed3 situation😂
@LimitedWard
@LimitedWard Год назад
The switches would be sourced from a different manufacturer than the keycaps, so there's really no reason they couldn't let the consumer pick and choose between all combinations.
@kylecastellino6402
@kylecastellino6402 Год назад
"Ah yes, finally, my new OnePlus keyboard. Can't wait to type smoothly. *Types* AYO BRO WTF-"
@carlwheezer1544
@carlwheezer1544 Год назад
sad thing is they don't even have native variants, so on the uk store it's still the US layout which is just dumb
@m0zart911
@m0zart911 Год назад
this just looks like a Keychron Q1
@jimmymac2292
@jimmymac2292 Год назад
Would be cool if oneplus made like a desktop version for their phones
@BorrietheBlade
@BorrietheBlade Год назад
"15% of my diet is chulula" 🤣😆
@niamotullah99
@niamotullah99 Год назад
Please talk about OnePlus's greenline issue on phones
@arijitdas490
@arijitdas490 Год назад
Dedicate this entire channel to the new Co Host... So cute...🥺
@DimasAjieFachrudin
@DimasAjieFachrudin Год назад
basically a Keychron Q1 with novelties oneplus keycaps.
@novak_zs
@novak_zs Год назад
The fact that there is a Surface Laptop and a Macbook on the table, makes me happy. I don't know why.
@0xBULLgogi
@0xBULLgogi Год назад
Why would you get this over a Keychron Q1, Zoom65, QWERTY75, etc . Fail
@jdi801
@jdi801 Год назад
Someone at Keychron was say "please, please no" to someone from Oneplus about the red tactile and linear blue. My guess is that everyone at Keychron is thinking what idiots about them.
@chimpcken
@chimpcken Год назад
Give mac his own show!!
@Dan-22
@Dan-22 Год назад
8:12 best part of the video
@dylanguerrero8053
@dylanguerrero8053 Год назад
OnePlus changing up the switches just because and then naming them the way they did is such a bonehead move lmao. Classic OnePlus
@jkhk7051
@jkhk7051 Год назад
There is a oneplus monitor too someone please talk or review about it
@handldyDandidlyD.ezzzzz
@handldyDandidlyD.ezzzzz Год назад
clean cut marques
@handldyDandidlyD.ezzzzz
@handldyDandidlyD.ezzzzz Год назад
15% of yoru diet is chihuahua?
@AWriterWandering
@AWriterWandering Год назад
I am 99% sure this is just a Keychron Q1 pro with a slightly modified case.
@xOSolomonOx
@xOSolomonOx Год назад
The community will probably call it the OP81
@Diykstrapro
@Diykstrapro Год назад
It's always fun to see when normal people who kinda know something about mechanical keyboards are stepping into enthusiast ground, so this confusion about naming of the switches made me smirk. 🤓🤓🤓So basically there is no colour/type scheme if you'll look into deeper into hobby:🤓🤓🤓 - EG Moyu Blacks - should be linear? Nah, these are one of the best heavy tactiles; - TTC Pale Blues are not clicky - infact, these are silent tactiles; - Akko Matcha Green could be clicky, but these are nice bang for the buck linears. Bonus, these are some interesting names of the mechanical switches: Tecsee Ice Milk, Tecsee Carrot, Equalz Tangerine, Durock Sunflower, Durock Shrimp, Wuque Onion, SP-Star Magic Girl and my favourite Gateron Baby Kangaroo.
@michael_thq
@michael_thq Год назад
I feel like the new co-host did a great job. Definitely bring him bark.
@tim_mueller
@tim_mueller Год назад
Ok, now I want to see what a Nothing Keyboard looks like, because I'm still convinced, that he left OnePlus was the end for them. (Tipping this on my OP5)
@FF18Cloud
@FF18Cloud Год назад
Don't tell marques how the keyboard world has weird ass switches like coffee chip and baby kangaroos
@saxwastaken
@saxwastaken Год назад
As someone who has been in the keyboard hobby for a while let me tell you. Big companies getting into anything remotely custom always ends up badly, Glorious tried it and ended up being a nightmare with a lot of false advertising and even some fucking over of community members that helped out with advertising for example.
@X_mano
@X_mano Год назад
I thought you were having a discussion with Mark Zuckerberg for a sec there.
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