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Why is There So Much Plastic on Harley-Davidson's?

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A Plastic Intake is a BAD IDEA! It Can Melt, Warp, & Leak, Causing the Engine to Run Poorly, Too Lean, & Ultimately Reduces Longevity. Fortunately Most Seem to Hold up. I Replaced Mine.
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This is a PSA Video. We are not selling intake manifolds. I used an S&S intake manifold when replacing my plastic intake manifold. Standard size. Oversize manifolds (many folks think bigger is always better) do NOT make more power.
On an engine that does not have increased compression & a big bore kit, the engine will not run as strong with an oversized manifold or throttle body. It is better to stick with OEM size.
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@DKCustomProducts Год назад

This is a PSA Video. We are not selling intake manifolds. I used an S&S intake manifold when replacing my plastic intake manifold. Standard size. Oversize manifolds (many folks think bigger is always better) do NOT make more power. On an engine that does not have increased compression & a big bore kit, the engine will not run as strong with an oversized manifold or throttle body. It is better to stick with OEM size.

@conservativeteacher1987 Год назад

I rode my 1999 Evo powered Heritage Softail to the Harley Stealership for the first time in years. I spent probably 30 minutes looking around and walked out. I didn't see one thing in there that really struck me as something I should purchase and certainly not at the prices they are asking. I'm stocked up on replacement parts for the old girl and plan to stay with it until the good Lord calls me home.

@DKCustomProducts Год назад

I hear ya. Enjoy your ride!!! 👍

@aaronblack001 11 месяцев назад

Just took my MY23 sport glide into the dealer this morning for rough idle (too low) and hesitant revs… told me there was an air leak on the plastic manifold. Rather than fitting a new plastic one and seals they suggested I paid the difference for the warranty claim to upgrade to a screaming eagle aluminium body. It was £77 (GBP) difference. Bike is totally better again. Amazing upgrade. Plastic crap between two cylinders shouldn’t be there. Can’t believe Harley would do this still now on the M8 when they must have seen repeated warranty claims for it? Tech told me this morning it’s not worth warranty claim in the plastic for plastic as if keep coming back over the next two years under warranty and then upgrade to metal to finally resolve the issue. They done the test with brake cleaner (in less than 30s like you said) Excellent video, just advise a low lumpy Idle too is possible (like I had) in the next one 👍🏻

@DKCustomProducts 11 месяцев назад

Yeah, HD probably figured they could get away with the plastic intake (to save $) because auto manufacturers have been doing it for years. And truth is, that a relatively small number of HD's are having the problem you had....but if they get too hot, that is what can happen. I did note that on the new 121 CVO's with VVT, they are using the aluminum intake manifold, not the plastic one. See in this video- ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-58cVhVnlz6w.html Glad you got yours taken care of. 👍😎👍

@chrisl.7345 Год назад

One of the first things I did to my 2017 FLHTK was replacing the restrictive manifold with an S&S, and before installing that I took the time to gently sand it down…not polishing,..inside for just that little better flow. That way another thing came of my mind when cruising the E-Glide down HW1 here in Calif., it’s just a great feeling that you know exactly what’s going on inside your engine and that you have an impact on it. 👌🏻☠️🇺🇸

@DKCustomProducts Год назад

" it’s just a great feeling that you know exactly what’s going on inside your engine and that you have an impact on it." Very well put! 👍😎👍

@jackpals2026 Год назад

And HD wonders why I won't trade in my rocket 88 Road King😅

@DKCustomProducts Год назад

The 88's are a great TC, especially the early ones. 👍

@bddfc1968 Год назад

I gave $23,000 for my 2009 Triglide 5 years ago with 50,000 miles on it and $20,000 later and many upgrades with USA PARTS from DKCustom and fuelmoto I've got almost 90,000 miles on it and the smiles are getting bigger every mile 😎

@DKCustomProducts Год назад

Glad to hear you are enjoying your ride! Thanks for your business, we appreciate it. Wishing you many more miles of smiles! 👍

@mikee878 Год назад

Another reason to sell my M8 & keep my Shovelhead I have been riding for 52 years and will never buy another Harley...

@DKCustomProducts Год назад

Lots of changes over the last half century...not all good, not all bad. Enjoy your rides!

@SEEKANDDESTROY717 Год назад

I wish the cost savings would be passed on to the customer instead of into HD pocket...guess I'll be putting an S&S on my 23 road glide 😐 Wonder if Indian does this?

@DKCustomProducts Год назад

The cost savings are primarily to their shareholders. Yes, Indian (Polaris) is also a public company, and they use a lot of plastic on their bikes also.

@tex9280 Год назад

Extremely important topic & the same as excessive crankcase pressure....🤔🤔🤔 It's cause HD can charge you for "engine upgrades".... 🤣😂🤣 If they make it to reliable, then they engineer problems into the motor & to keep you a regular customer....🤣😂 Love your work Boyz 💪💪💪 Living The F🤪KING Dream ❗ Safe travels 🙏♥️🐾🐾🇦🇺

@DKCustomProducts Год назад

Thanks man, and back at ya. Yes, the upgrade mentality is strong at HD.

@vernondavis4182 Год назад

Thank you for that my 2022 Road Glide Special intake Manifold melted. With only 700 miles on the bike and the weather was 74 degrees in Phoenix AZ.

@DKCustomProducts Год назад

That is terrible! Plastic on a motorcycle near the motor just does not make sense! Glad the video was helpful! Thanks for watching!

@Big88Country Год назад

Thanks for the great info fellas!! Y'all should make a video doing this upgrade for all of us DIY'ers! RIDE SAFE FELLERS!!

@DKCustomProducts Год назад

We tried, but we did not pull the tank to do it, and there was not enough room for the hands working on it and the camera. In retrospect it would have been better to take the 10 minutes to pull the tank...then it would have been an easier swap AND we could have videoed it. Next time! 👍

@per4mexbagger541 Год назад

Upgrading ASAP . Thanks guys !!!

@DKCustomProducts Год назад

Glad you are finding the videos useful/interesting! 👍😎👍

@RayfordRaySiegel Год назад

I hate plastic on a bike. Bikes should be metal, glass, & rubber.

@DKCustomProducts Год назад

I hear ya! 👍

@brianbayowski9265 Год назад

I think history will show the Twin Cam bikes and rubber mounted Evo Sportster were the pinnacle of Harley-Davidson quality. 😉

@DKCustomProducts Год назад

Time will tell. I 100% agree on the Evo Sporty. Not sure about the Twin Cam...maybe the first 3 years of it. But, if I had a choice today, between a Twin Cam (with a weak crank) and an M8, I am pretty sure I would choose an M8.

@geraldscott4302 Год назад

I think the EVO bikes were the best Harleys ever made, period. Not a fan of the Twin Cam and certainly not the Goldwing smooth M8. I have a 1989 FXRS Low Rider and a 1998 Sportster 1200. No problems with either one of them.

@DKCustomProducts Год назад

You make some good points!

@clintonstepanekjr4241 Год назад

Also the transmission and cam covers. Just shook my head when I realized

@DKCustomProducts Год назад

It is baffling for sure!

@robertbachant8257 Год назад

Great information as always. Dyno tests at my dealership show gains everywhere, 1-5hp everywhere, with the SE TB/intake. It’s a win win to replace

@DKCustomProducts Год назад

Thank you, glad you're liking the videos. Thanks for the info from your dealership.

@paddingtonbear5172 Год назад

Great video mate . I think i will stick with my 03 roadking . These new ones just seem too mass produced to a price , then overpriced simply for profit .

@DKCustomProducts Год назад

The 88's are a good power plant. 👍 Glad you enjoyed the video, thanks for the comment!

@johnnielsen5076 6 месяцев назад

I'll stick with my underpowered early twin cam thanks. Delphi injection, solid cranks, timken left side, proven primary and no stupid plastic intake!

@DKCustomProducts 6 месяцев назад

Yeah, plastic and engines are not a good mix, especially air cooled engines. Glad you have a bike you are happy with and do not have to worry about the intake melting! Thanks for commenting!

@jackklarich7045 Год назад

Plastic plenums have a bad rap, I cannot tell y'all how many I have replaced in my lifetime, IMO they have no place on ICE, they use them because injection molding plastic is cheaper and lighter, NOT better Good show @ D K Customs

@DKCustomProducts Год назад

Thanks Jack! Always good to get your feedback on the videos. Agree with you 100%, the cost savings is good for the HD shareholders, but is not the best choice for us riders.

@jeffreyengle2762 Год назад

If I had realized at the point, when I purchased this motorcycle that it was going to take thousands upon thousands of dollars to get it rideable, I would’ve went straight for the gold wing

@tommiller8714 Год назад

Bought a new 2023 HD Road Glide ST a few months ago (Feb. 2023) and here's what I changed so far (as of late Apr. 2023): 1. Trask M8 Checkvent, metal, to properly ventilate crankcase (& eliminate the HD OE plastic piece). 2. S&S 55mm Intake Manifold, aluminum & ported by Ward (eliminated the HD OE plastic intake manifold). 3. Added the HD Fan to the oil cooler and had HD Dealer flash the ECU. 4. Added the S&S 2-1 Sidewinder Exhaust w/dB reducer and no cat. Bye-bye to the stock HD OE Exhaust. More to come...such as the plastic connector piece in the clutch cable adjuster...will be installing an aftermarket metal piece ($50).

@Joshua-of9vq Год назад

Awesome investment. I bought a 1999 Valk 9 years ago with 14,000 miles and here's what I've replaced.....2 tires.

@glenng8594 Год назад

@@Joshua-of9vq Two different beasts, can't compare them.

@DKCustomProducts Год назад

Good to hear you are making the bike your own. You may find this video series interesting/useful- ru-vid.com/group/PLb3bvZgbH92_3s-2vv63QggFJ3nteFd_C Or, if you just want to see one video outlining the subject- ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-5PxJ8PvcVtc.html

@DKCustomProducts Год назад

Glad you are enjoying the wind!

@DKCustomProducts Год назад

True that. 👍

@jonz5978 Год назад

Yes. Hpi or s&s. Good American made brands. Another good video by a good company. Thank you.

@DKCustomProducts Год назад

Thank you! Glad to hear you are finding the videos useful/interesting. 👍

@richardschaffling9882 Год назад

Harley just don’t care anymore it’s all about making there customers pay more to fix there garbage

@DKCustomProducts Год назад

I think it is more about making good numbers for their shareholders, and many times that leaves the Customer paying for that. It's not that they are motivated to hurt their Customers, it is just that they are More motivated to give their shareholders a good experience.

@johnnance1414 Год назад

@@DKCustomProductsthanks for this response. Too often people get on the “Harley hates its customers “ bandwagon, when it always comes down to earnings for the shareholder. Thanks again. By the way, Ford hates their customers too.

@jasonisdn Год назад

Composites are good for managing heat soak on the intake charge. Harleys just run so hot, that their choice of materials for the intake was poor. GM and others still use composite intakes. Here is an example of a current composite intake, 6.2 Liter LT1 Intake manifold.

@markman7 Год назад

This guy gets it. If your intake melts, you got the engine way too hot, and this is not a water cooled engine. The water only helps (very slightly) around the exhaust port of the head. A lawn mower is cooled much better with a fan and shroud.

@DKCustomProducts Год назад

Agree with you. They do not belong on any motorcycle, especially unbalanced HD's, due to the heat and vibration.

@DKCustomProducts Год назад

Great points! 👍

@ncf11 Год назад

Absolutely disgusting. Another reason that shows HD doesn’t care about the buyers of their product. Plastic Intake a pure cost savings play.

@DKCustomProducts Год назад

Yep, trying to get the most for their shareholders.

@vieuxacadian9455 Год назад

Thanks Guys ! apes up rubber down ,ride free . Bonjour de Louisiane .

@DKCustomProducts Год назад

Thank you for the comment, glad you are liking the vids. 👍

@paulhood7316 Год назад

Kevin you seen my bike I have the Aluminum Intake ported by Ward / S&S... it was good for closing the gap on the dyno to the tune of six horsepower under the Curve on my stock compression 114 rdrs equipped fltrxs... I've seen too many of them melt in the service department and it's an easy and inexpensive fix

@DKCustomProducts Год назад

Hey Hoodie, thanks for sharing your experience. 👍

@FranBunnyFFXII Год назад

I have a product suggestion, yall should make a higher flow air filter for the 114 ventilator that flows more than the K&N filter. I was looking at the FuelMoto one, and it's too wide, and would get in the way of my knee when cornering. And I ride twisties a lot. It'd be really cool to have a replacement filter that's like a 1/2inch wider, flows a bit more, and has billet or steel stand offs to make it work great with the SE/114 Oval Ventilator.

@DKCustomProducts Год назад

I think we do have what you are describing. You can see them at this link- www.dkcustomproducts.com/milwaukee-eight-outlaw-hiflow-828-air-cleaner-complete-systems.htm And this particular one is made to work with a TC ventilator cover- www.dkcustomproducts.com/complete-hiflow-828-air-cleaner-milwaukee-eight-prepped-for-ventilator-cover.htm AND, later this month we will have two that allow for the installation of any of the oval ventilator badges. 👍

@FranBunnyFFXII Год назад

@@DKCustomProducts I was basically just looking for something like FuelMoto or Arlen Ness makes where it's a filter that goes into the stock setup on the M8 114. the FM one is a bit too wide for my liking, and the Arlen ness one is properly sized but has nylon spacers instead of billet/metal. And I've had some sketchy experiences with Arlen Ness over the years. I was thinking you guys could make a better filter than Arlen Ness with a similar slightly wider than stock profile, but with better quality and ffilteration design since you guys have more experience with hardware that actually performs well making power and maintaining good quality, using proper metal parts and bolts.

@DKCustomProducts Год назад

Thanks for the good words. 👍 There may be a larger filter element that will fit the ventilator (but then will the filter mounting fasteners in the ventilator work?) The best solution we have come up with for staying low profile and getting a bigger filter element for flow, and keeping the ventilator look, is the 828 that is designed to work with the TC Ventilator Cover.

@Comm0ut 12 дней назад

Because they are not premium quality motorcycles where drivetrains are concerned. Their success is due to easy REbuild and overhaul to zero time and a magnificent aftermarket facilitated by their simple engine design and rebuildable crankshafts. The only intake manifold offered for HDs that was actually good is the Ram Jett one-piece intake for Evos which replaced the idiotic rubber boots on early Evos. They're so stout it's safe to lift the engine by a sling under the intake which I've done and not provoked any leaks. Everything else is designed for rapid line assembly after which they're the customer's problem. Properly designed engines don't require a waterfall of replacement parts to be reliable but fortunately new HD customers are rich enough to fix everything and even be proud of spending the money. Fine with me since my brother mechanics need to eat too.

@DKCustomProducts 11 дней назад

Thanks for sharing your opinion and insight! KP

@gnsmk357 Год назад

Good advice once again. Great Video guys..

@DKCustomProducts Год назад

Thank you! 👍😎👍

@jeffreyisreal2094 Год назад

Great video. Ty for that info

@DKCustomProducts Год назад

Thank you for your comment...good to hear you are finding the videos useful/interesting. 👍😎👍

@blownmouse Год назад

Great video again guys. This something I did not know when purchasing my 2021 Street Glide and I will be replacing my intake as well as the plastic transmission top cover. I understand cost cutting measures in the manufacturing world due to my profession but this is just ridiculous. I would love to know the cost savings between a junky plastic intake versus an aluminum one. I would have happily paid a little more for my bike not to have this crap on it.

@DKCustomProducts Год назад

Thank you! Glad you are finding the videos useful/interesting. Plastic just does not seem right. Fortunately most never have a problem with the plastic intake manifold...but how does one know if they are going to have a problem or not. Better to just not use a plastic intake.

@ut1004bp Год назад

U guys are on the subject of plastics on the m8, but forgot about the lifter cuffs and unbrella valves..i dont buy the Al intake would have engine temp decrease, but yea plastics will damage from excessive heat

@DKCustomProducts Год назад

We did not address the plastic in the umbrella valves, but we do address the plastic lifter cuffs. Here is the video on that- ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-My7BkSnl-fQ.html Here is a video about the plastic in the cam bearing- ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-6EdSBP2kZLY.html

@artesper7898 Год назад

Thanks I will be charging my soon I am having trouble with Harley for parts for my 2020 road glide limit The heated handle grip switch is on back order. The dealership will not me the bike back until switch coming in The fell over insurance is paying The last I heard the middle of July A two year old bike and can’t get parts

@DKCustomProducts Год назад

Yes, supply chain issues are real, and HD is not exempt. Sorry for the hassle it is causing you.

@fq7879 9 месяцев назад

If i had a m8 which I 😢don't hd would be the last place I would purchase the metal intake from. The m8 doesn't even sound like a harley at idle.

@DKCustomProducts 9 месяцев назад

The M8 doesn't sound much like a Harley, but there are certainly modification yu can do to get that sound back! Here is a video of my M8 sound before and after modifications- ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-yIbqJ7ytr3w.html Thanks for commenting!

@fq7879 9 месяцев назад

The only way to get that idle lope on an m8 is to change the cam. 2 friends have done that and it sounds like the old harleys.

@DKCustomProducts 9 месяцев назад

I did upgrade my CAM!!! 😎

@fogit4668 Год назад

They do it because it is cheaper to make and not better.

@DKCustomProducts Год назад

Yep!

@jamesmccanne331 Год назад

Where can you buy a metal intake for a 2019 trike?

@DKCustomProducts Год назад

A google search of "s&s intake manifold m8" will bring up a bunch of places that sell them for under $200. 👍

@dannyarendall5233 Год назад

As much as HD charges for a bike they could put good parts on them

@DKCustomProducts Год назад

This is a common thought that is difficult to see a flaw in.

@geraldscott4302 Год назад

That looks like something you would find at Home Depot in the plumbing department. H-D should be ashamed of themselves.

@DKCustomProducts Год назад

Yeah, it's crazy. 😱

@pb68slab18 Год назад

I refuse to work on anything after the EVO. But even the Evos we rebuild will get a new S&S steel breather to replace the stock plastic one. And those infamous INA cam bearing had a plastic cage separating the needles. The Torrington had twice the number of needle rollers, one right next to each other without the plastic cage. Which one had a reputation for failure?

@DKCustomProducts Год назад

What year and model Evos came with plastic intake manifolds? Yeah, agree with you on the cam bearing...we have a video coming out soon on that subject.

@pb68slab18 Год назад

@@DKCustomProducts Not intake manifolds, the gear-driven crankcase breather. Never heard of a plastic intake manifold. I do know Dodge uses a lot of plastic engine parts. A friends garage has replaced a lot of failed plastic coolant hose spigots.

@DKCustomProducts Год назад

Got it. Thanks. Yeah, plastic and engines are not a good mix, especially air cooled engines.

@georgemurphy2922 Год назад

I don’t think anyone will disagree that aluminum is better fit this application. But…what percentage of M8 really have a problem w/the intake. Just thinking out loud here, but if Al conducts heat so much better, isn’t it going to reach a higher temp than the composite intake??

@ncf11 Год назад

I guess it would be a preventive measure in case the plastic melts. And the cost savings point is hard to argue.

@DKCustomProducts Год назад

I don't know the percentage. It is not high at all. I bought my bike in 2019 and did not replace until 2023...not a high priority, but I did it because in the off-chance that it would, I wanted to eliminate that possibility before two big trips I have planned this year.

@DKCustomProducts Год назад

👍😎👍

@rarebreed9208 Год назад

That's why I call all new Harleys PlastiGlides®️. All of the plastic, paper thin sheet metal, and Softail frames make Harleys look like cheaply made, outrageously priced pieces of soulless, disposable crap. That old saying "You bought a paint job" has never been more true. I wouldn't trade my '97 WideGlide or my '72 ElectraGlide for 10 new Harleys.

@DKCustomProducts Год назад

Thanks for sharing your thoughts, much appreciated! 👍

@rarebreed9208 Год назад

@@DKCustomProducts It's fortunate that you aftermarket guys exist, because if it was up to Harley, new bike owners would be left out in the cold.

@DKCustomProducts Год назад

Thanks, yes, it is good for us that the aftermarket exists. To a great degree, that has been part of HD's plan. Here is a video on the subject- ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-__NE6h1DhCg.html

@mixalis6168 Год назад

Title should be, ON ALL BRANDS!!!

@DKCustomProducts Год назад

Yeah, between heat and vibration, they do not seem like a good idea for motorcycles!

@jeffstroud6072 Год назад

Question what is the proper intake for a 122 ci motor as i had a 58mm on my 110 twin cam and i think the m8 flows more. But i dont know the formula for figuring out what to use on a harley. car engines 650 or 750 cfm is easy but not so much for me on harleys.

@DKCustomProducts Год назад

Your engine builder would be able to advise you best on what particular intake manifold and injectors will work best with the 122 engine and whatever cam set up you're going with.

@user-ks1lx2un7p 9 месяцев назад

I have 2017 SGS. Every once in a while when I come to a stop, the idle drops to 400 then back up to 1000. Then alternates between 800-1000. i sprayed the manifold with throtle body cleaner, but no fluctuation in idle. Any thoughts. I'm ordering the s&s manifold anyway

@DKCustomProducts 9 месяцев назад

There could be a variety of reasons for this. The tune may need to be reflashed. The sensors in the throttle body may be gummed up if you are not running an EBS. Check out this video on the subject- ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-EfDeFZblMck.html It is even possible that you are borderline sumping. Hard to know without the bike in front of us, but the able 3 are things I would check.

@hemmosluiter523 Год назад

Not surprised

@DKCustomProducts Год назад

Same here.

@frankgiaccone2159 Год назад

Will you be having a video of replacing the intake?

@DKCustomProducts Год назад

@joehansen4889 Год назад

Which in take should I put on my 2020 M8? Thanks

@DKCustomProducts Год назад

Any of these will work well for you- www.dkcustomproducts.com/air-cleaner-intake-c10-383.htm Here is a video outlining the Differences- ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-xP7wxWQmSa8.html As far as the intake manifold, I went with the S&S.

@petercallen6172 Месяц назад

How many reasons do you need to not buy an M8? I put a 103 kit on my 96ci FXWD along with cams and some compression and it's great, why would I change? Maybe if you want bragging rights in top end speed then go for it, I'll protect my wallet thanks.

@DKCustomProducts Месяц назад

Glad you have your bike built how you want it. The M8's aren't bad bikes they just need some upgrades. Thanks for commenting! MB

@joehansen4889 Год назад

Do I have to retune my 2020 Street Glide after install?

@DKCustomProducts Год назад

You do not. The ECM will compensate for the small flow change. See video on that at this link- ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-0vbTkRvFa80.html

@joehansen4889 Год назад

@@DKCustomProducts thank you.

@DKCustomProducts Год назад

👍😎👍

@joehansen4889 Год назад

I bought the S&S intake. Installing Saturday.

@tobyratcliffe4534 Год назад

Do you need to retune the bike after upgrading the intake and the 64mm throttle body on a 114?

@DKCustomProducts Год назад

You do not need to retune when upgrading the intake with the OEM size. Within a few weeks we will be publishing a video on why, except in extreme build circumstances, moving to a 64mm throttle body will REDUCE your power. We were surprised on the Dyno, about 15 years ago, when we saw that increasing the size of the throttle body Reduces power. Bigger is Not always better. If you are not doing a big bore upgrade, w/ an aggressive cam, going to a 64mm will not bring you good results...and yes, you would need to retune the bike.

@johnwoodworth4204 Год назад

I will be interested in this video. I have a 97 evo softail that had a larger SE carb and intake installed by dealership. After I got it back I swore it didn't run any better than stock. Added a Andrew ev27 cam recently and still am disappointed with performance at regular highway speeds. Engine is otherwise stock.

@DKCustomProducts Год назад

I'll look and see if we have any video footage...if not, I will add it to our list of videos to shoot.

@beeker3 Год назад

I will wait until I see an actual melted intake.

@DKCustomProducts Год назад

👍

@frankf7503 Год назад

I round figures, what was the cost for this, P&L?

@DKCustomProducts Год назад

An S&S can be had for a bit under $200. I don't know what the labor cost is....I know it should only take 1 to 1.5 hours to do.

@frankf7503 Год назад

@@DKCustomProducts Thank you

@DKCustomProducts Год назад

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@fredrickhaemker8434 Год назад

Did the new intake drop any noticeable heat from your engine? I know its important.

@DKCustomProducts Год назад

We did not change just one thing when we did the intake manifold...so it is impossible to know which of the things we did increased or decreased temps. Reports out there are a 5-10 degree drop, but we cannot verify that one way or another.

@paulhorvath9784 Год назад

Would you say my 114 would need a tune if i put in a SnE intake or the SnS one ? I only run Slip ons ...Thanks 👌

@DKCustomProducts Год назад

No change in tune is needed when swapping out intake manifolds from plastic to metal.

@paulhorvath9784 Год назад

@@DKCustomProducts I only thought to ask because the air flow is increased by around %3 ? On top of the slip ons ,, although sooner than later I'll tune and run a SE torque cam ,, 👌

@DKCustomProducts Год назад

This video showing how the ECM adapts for changes like that is pretty interesting- ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-0vbTkRvFa80.html

@frankgiaccone2159 Год назад

R U selling a intake?

@DKCustomProducts Год назад

We are not. Lots of places selling it for under $200, when I do a google search.

@richardrussell500 Год назад

I will let the warranty cover it... my guess is that people who run their engines way too hot are the ones suffering from this. Keep your engine operating cool and my guess is you will be okay. Most all engine manufacturers today use plastic intakes. Good info though. Thanks :-)

@DKCustomProducts Год назад

That is definitely one way to deal with it (warranty) if always riding close to home. Definitely those that run too hot are going to have a higher rate of failure.

@richardrussell500 Год назад

@@DKCustomProducts no doubt... I guess the biggest concern is the warranty issue. with a new aftermarket cam comes an EPA non-compliant tuner. and, if something goes wrong, that HD can show was caused by a poor tune in the engine or malfunctioning aftermarket part, then the cost of rebuilding or replacing your engine comes out of your pocket (unless of course you have a Jim Palmer aftermarket warranty policy with a $2000+ price tag). at 8500 miles, my 2020 114 Freewheeler engine sumped and destroyed the engine. $8500 estimate to rebuild if rebuildable and $14000 to install a crate engine (parts/labor). no thanks. I will always maintain a warranty as long as I ride a HD. period. I will never modify my engine, so I have the Jim Palmer basic warranty policy for 5 years with a price tag under $1400. I feel confident riding my HD long after the factory warranty expires. ride safe : - )

@boscodog4358 Год назад

Light weight and cheap

@DKCustomProducts Год назад

Gotta agree. 🙁

@conardwilliamson2366 Год назад

Glad I sold my m8 bikes you pay all that money 💰 and you got to pay more to fix 😅 there mistakes

@conardwilliamson2366 Год назад

Went back to a Evo and my sportster

@DKCustomProducts Год назад

Good to hear you are in the wind and enjoying your rides! 👍😎👍

@keithw1966 Год назад

Indian sounds better and better. HD is done imo.

@DKCustomProducts Год назад

Seriously doubt that is the case. 🏍

@keithw1966 Год назад

More and more Indians on the road.More and more HD owners selling off their HDs for other makes. Corporate seems to ignore the complaints. they are out of touch with customer core and could care less. Seems to me they are losing the common blue collar customer. Quality is down, prices are insane, dealerships suck the customer dry. Seems to me their US customer base has had enough.

@DKCustomProducts Год назад

Time will tell. 🙂

@northbysoutheast5439 Год назад

😎👍👍

@DKCustomProducts Год назад

Thank you! 👍😎👍

@AngelIRQ0508 Год назад

👍🏼🥃🇺🇸

@DKCustomProducts Год назад

Thank you! 👍😎👍

@1mrmcawesome Год назад

LMFAO,.....hey, if you want your bike to be reliable and work, you better upgrade the intake. I'm so done with Harley. Just another way to sell you more parts.

@DKCustomProducts Год назад

To be fair, it is a small % that have problem because of the plastic intake. But, it does seem wrong to be using so much plastic on/in the engine. 😱

@toddgittins5692 Год назад

More junk, gotta shake your head.

@DKCustomProducts Год назад

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@TheRider_1229 Год назад

Have noticed all car manufacturers have been using plastic intake and also intake plenum for a looooooooooong time. Please stop calling out Harley Davidson. What about your vehicles with plastic intake manifolds and plastic intake plenums, are you going to start replacing????

@DKCustomProducts Год назад

I would replace it on my wife's truck if there was a history of them melting. Not a lot of HD plenums melt, but enough of them do that I don't want to be one of the ones that it does, especially thousands of miles from home on a trip.

@ncf11 Год назад

Harley brings scrutiny to itself.

@TheRider_1229 Год назад

I own 2 M8 touring bikes and a few of my friends have also owned M8 touring bikes but no throttle body (or intake manifold) trouble whatsoever. I reside in Los Angeles which is warm and got hot during the summertime. Could this be a few bikes out of hundreds, or thousands of bikes?

@DKCustomProducts Год назад

True that. 👍

@DKCustomProducts Год назад

You are absolutely correct...it is not a high % at all. I do not know the %, but I would guess a few out of thousands. But, if a person is one of those few, they are not going to be happy campers. Here is what a HD Service Manager has to say: "Kevin you seen my bike I have the Aluminum Intake ported by Ward / S&S... it was good for closing the gap on the dyno to the tune of six horsepower under the Curve on my stock compression 114 rdrs equipped fltrxs... *I've seen too many of them melt in the service department and it's an easy and inexpensive fix* "

@commongunowner2173 Год назад

Harley , over priced junk.

@DKCustomProducts Год назад

Don't know what your definition of junk is. I have thoroughly enjoyed riding my Harley's over the years, for well over half a million miles. Never been broken down, made great memories, when selling or trading in have always gotten a good price,

@johnditchen1148 Год назад

Wouldn't be so hot if they're not so lean

@DKCustomProducts Год назад

M8's are very different than Twin Cams. The M8 is Not too lean from the factory. See this video showing that- ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Lb_57Z_Ipms.html And here is a written report with plenty of AFR charts showing that the OEM tune is not too lean- www.dkcustomproducts.com/milwaukee-eight-dyno-charts-other-interesting-info-dk-m8-rpt.htm The heat is not from a lean condition...it is too hot from a variety of other reasons...the EPA cam being one, the restrictive intake and exhaust, more CI in the same space, no oil cooler on the Twin-Cooled models, and other reasons.

@johnditchen1148 Год назад

@@DKCustomProducts I have the 2022 117 domestic motor but I'm in California thanks for the information

@DKCustomProducts Год назад

Cali OEM tunes are the same as the rest of the country. Enjoy your ride! 👍

@johnditchen1148 Год назад

@@DKCustomProducts I was riding stopped at a long light in gear holding the clutch gave the throttle a Rev and heard a loud bang pop sound from the head like bang. Took it to the dealer they don't know no codes can't recreate it and I'm scared to ever Rev it again, maybe you know what's going on? I'm still under 400miles on this 117 fxlrs

@DKCustomProducts Год назад

@@johnditchen1148 There's no way to know for sure over the internet...would have to be with the bike. HOWEVER, it could be that it got very hot and misfired when blipping the throttle. Since 2007 the Twin Cams and M8's have run very hot from the factory. There are things you can do to cool it down. Below are 3 video links that you may find useful: 1, What HD does when they get hot, in an attempt to cool them down- ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-5PxJ8PvcVtc.html 2. Short list of low and no cost things you can do to help it not get too hot- ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-o3T3yA9BKwE.html 3. Playlist of the Series of videos on Why and How to Cool Down Your TC & M8- ru-vid.com/group/PLb3bvZgbH92_3s-2vv63QggFJ3nteFd_C Always feel free to email or call with any questions: Support@DKCustomProducts.com 662-252-8828