Why is your bronco steering rack breaking? 

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What do you mean time out? As in temporary steering assist reduction to almost none?

@@josephburgard6574 Basically loss of all steering, every time it’s happened I’ve had to shut off the vehicle to get my steering back. All three times it was with the front locker engaged while trying to turn while on an obstacle. From what I was told from someone in development is it’s the electric assist timing out. I’m scared to try to overcome it by man handling the steering wheel so usually I roll far enough past that I can get the vehicle into 2wd and then shut it off and restart.

@@moodyblueoutdoors EPS (electronic power steering) units will purposefully de-rate and lower their steering assist output as a protection feature to avoid damaging the internals due to high temperatures and/or consistently high motor currents. When you air down the tires and put the front diff locker on, the rack loads are much larger than normal which shortens the power on (duty) cycle. Try to avoid continuing to steer while an obstacle blocks your front wheel movement as this stalls the motor (causing high motor currents) and only turn your front diff locker when you absolutely need to. Just cycling vehicle ignition won't instantly bring back full steering assist due to the high internal temperature build up. Not trying to criticize your driving skills, I'm no rock crawling expert, just know EPS pretty well.

@@josephburgard6574 Oh I know, two of the time its happened I was actually wheeling with someone up the development chain at Ford and he actually broke the rack in his bronco so we had to trailer it home. My front locker only comes on in extreme need situations which sucks because it’s always a worry in the back of my mind on trips. One of the times we purposely left the bronco running and after 15 minutes steering still hadn’t came back. The other time restarting was my only option because if not I was stuck on the middle of the trail with 35 Gen 6 Broncos behind me.

Absolutely

@@quinnpultz8004 heck yes!

You deserve a cookie! This is a yuge over sight when building an IFS steering system.

That is our goal as well

@@quinnpultz8004 👍 I know it's not going to be cheap, but hopefully it won't be anywhere near those bad ass portals for the Bronco you make! 😉

@@orine-dq6bf in determining the cost of a motor you wouldn’t compare it to a transmission would you? Portals and a rack are totally different. We expect to be somewhere around 5K for a complete unit. Keep in mind 2K of that is for the HOSS 3.0 which we plan to buy and use internals from

Well, I guess we have different definitions of "Average Bronco Owner". I'm out, way out of my price range.

Hoping for less than half that price. No way we will be anywhere near 10K.

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If you have a Wildtrak and want to upgrade the housing we will be able to swap your setup into our housing and save $$$.

@@quinnpultz8004 Tell me more? Any possibility of sponsorship? I'm active on the 6G Forum. Would love to hear about a package with portals possibly.

@@rugu6869 we don’t really do sponsorships but we are developing an ambassador program for people active in the community. Details on this will be released at the end of this quarter

@@quinnpultz8004 Got it! Looking forward to it. Any technical details regarding the portals for the Bronco? Would it be wider than stock (fender flares needed)?

@@rugu6869 we will do some videos here soon. Yes it has to be wider as we package a gear and two bearings all stacked in width. Not much we can change on that. The bronco will be similar specs to the Jeep. We have that info on our site

I think that if you plan to offroad your bronco you need to change HOW the rack bar is stabilized. You can add whatever aftermarket things you want but because the factory rack uses essentially a crush sleeve to set backlash on the rack and pinion there is no way to change how the rack bar is supported on the pinion side. Any bushing on the pinion side that is tight is a bad idea and a bushing that is loose doesn’t support against shock loads. Does this make sense?

Hey Ken! We are testing soon. I expect them to be ready late spring but I can probably get you in as a beta if you are interested

@@quinnpultz8004 I am interested in beta testing! Message me for my info, Bronco build

@@quinnpultz8004 Hey Quinn, yes I would be interested in beta testing the rack, Bronco should arrive in two weeks. You should have my contact info if not let me know and I’ll give you call.

Let me correct that. The 3.0 rack is also what comes in the Bronco Raptor and that comes with 37’s. I think tire size is only one of the major factors leading to these failures we can see. I really feel with a few material and design changes we can make the factory components a lot stronger in more harsh conditions like rock crawling. In short, I think we will be able to run 37-39” tires with what we plan to build and not have issues

@@quinnpultz8004 are 40s no longer the goal then?

@@builtmibronco we will have guys test on 40’s. If you want to run them go for it. We will likely offer some sort of housing warranty like our portals. I have told people for 10 years if they ever break a portal housing we will replace it free of charge. Chances are the rack warranty will be the same. You might break internals…time will tell. Our goal is to make a housing we can stand behind with a lifetime replacement warranty

@@quinnpultz8004 that's fair, and I know it's still early! Excited to see the testing commence 😈

@@quinnpultz8004 Really? What about HOSS 4.0?

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Portals … use that charge card if u have to. Run those 37’s or bigger .

Check out the 6G forum. The 3.0 rack has been swapped into a Bronco and they have the coding to go with it completed as well.

This is only somewhat correct. We have successfully programmed the rack and I don’t think this is something the “average guy” is going to do. With that said I had several meetings with Ford Performance engineers at KOH and they are eager to support this endeavor. This will be an option in ProCal. If you don’t want the tune, you can get a ProCal for JUST the rack at a lower price point.

We feel 7075 is probably not needed in this application. Are we 100% sure…not yet, but to give some perspective, we run 6061 on our portal boxes that do 140mph across the desert and we have never had a failure in over a decade of use. Materials are important but so is design, arguably more so. We are confident that the pinion will shatter before our housing will break

@@quinnpultz8004 I agree with you that design is more important than the pure material strength. Some opined that it could be that 6061-T6 is weldable and 7075-T6 is not, which for Baja/endurance races could be a factor. I appreciate the response!

@@mpeugeot it has nothing to do with welding. We don’t feel 7075 is necessary. 6061 is cheaper and more readily available in the sizes we need. Trophy truck racks are 6061. I see the chatter on the forums and there is a lot of misinformation out there.

Nope. That’s just an extra surface plate we have lying around. We have several that are certified annually. This is just for reference.