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Why Jo Martin NEEDS to Return to Doctor Who 

Joe Brennan
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With the current very popular rumours of Jodie Whittaker's immanent departure, I thought I'd take the opportunity to make the case for Jo Martin as her replacement in this video essay.
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@Joe_Brennan_
@Joe_Brennan_ 3 года назад
Thank you for all the positive feedback! I've struggled to find the motivation recently, but this makes it all worth it. If you enjoyed the video and aren't yet subscribed, I've got a lot more content in the pipeline so would recommend it!
@annaclarafenyo8185
@annaclarafenyo8185 3 года назад
The doctor is vain, the doctor is weird, the doctor is childlike, and the doctor is skinny. Jo Martin isn't distinctive or strange looking, she looks like a completely ordinary woman you could meet day-to-day, she isn't thin enough to play the character, and she can't be childlike and authoritative at the same time. While not necessarily "hot", the doctor's incarnations are always distinctive looking enough to stick out like a sore thumb standing in line at a bank, and Jo Martin doesn't at all, I wouldn't blink twice if I saw her in line behind me. Jodie Whittaker does. She looks as surreal in her face and expressions as Capaldi or Smith or Tom Baker. A Ruth Negga or Adelayo Adedayo or Thandie Newton would likely work in this respect just as well as Whittaker. I suspect the casting director had the idea that being a black person compensates for not being strange-looking or childlike. No. No. No. An ordinary-looking un-childlike overweight doctor doesn't convince, in either male or female form.
@HonkHonkler
@HonkHonkler Год назад
The fact that you think The Timeless Child doesn't BREAK The Doctor Who lore is concerning.
@Joe_Brennan_
@Joe_Brennan_ Год назад
@@HonkHonkler I HATE IT
@HonkHonkler
@HonkHonkler Год назад
@@Joe_Brennan_ Alright, fair enough I jumped to conclusions, my bad. It's just hard to find ANYTHING positive about ANYTHING that happened in Jodie's run. And the Timeless Child completely destroyed it, so it's hard to take anything positive from like Jo Martin's doctor. Especially since we know she wasn't the next doctor (even though I wouldn't want her as the next either), but one even BEFORE the numbered Doctors.
@lukejenkins1998
@lukejenkins1998 3 года назад
Jo Martin restored my faith that a female doctor could work. Have very much the same feelings about 13
@garysimmons4323
@garysimmons4323 3 года назад
It's astonishing, that Jo Martin made more impact as The Doctor in one episode, than JW has in two series and two specials. I don't care what colour or gender The Doctor is, as long as they inhabit the part and make it work.
@annaclarafenyo8185
@annaclarafenyo8185 3 года назад
She is not skinny enough, childlike enough, or strange looking enough to ever be cast as the doctor.
@parrot998
@parrot998 3 года назад
@@annaclarafenyo8185 Her not being too childlike is a plus in my book. They keep trying to top themselves in that regard, to the point "Doctory" dialogue has been consumed with one liners and line references to previous stories, when I think a Doctor like 7 is much more called for, esp if we are saddled with Chibnall for a while. That kind of Doctor would play far more to the current era's strengths whereas Jodie seems to almost clash tonally in every scene. A Doctor that can be silly sometimes, but for the most part is serious and scheming... And what we saw of Jo Martin absolutely fits that bill.
@annaclarafenyo8185
@annaclarafenyo8185 3 года назад
@@parrot998 If you want a serious Doctor, Jo Martin needs to lose 2 stone, then I'd say she can play the part. I still won't buy her jumping over bridges, and I still don't see her as alien-looking, but that might get better as she pulls more faces, like it did with Tennant.
@annaclarafenyo8185
@annaclarafenyo8185 3 года назад
@XML studios Capaldi's doctor was somewhat childlike, he played the electric guitar, he had those ridiculous sonic glasses. He had naivete in trusting Missy. Perhaps "teenlike" is more appropriate. I didn't think he was a great casting choice, but he did okay, because the writing was really good, better than the Smith years.
@_valstrax_8748
@_valstrax_8748 3 года назад
@@annaclarafenyo8185 people said the same about capaldi.
@HedeccaTamer
@HedeccaTamer 3 года назад
Jo Martin's "I know, shut up" makes her feel more like The Doctor Jodie Whittaker is honestly just a blank canvas, she's just exposition, whimsical comments and pop culture references.
@Joe_Brennan_
@Joe_Brennan_ 3 года назад
I hate to be overly negative but I can't help but agree
@MyAbridged
@MyAbridged 3 года назад
@@Joe_Brennan_ she really reminds me of Peter Davidson in his first season, rather baffled and unsure about what kind of character she's trying to portray. Just with worse writing.
@annaclarafenyo8185
@annaclarafenyo8185 3 года назад
Jodie Whittaker is an excellent actress, and is completely persuasive as the Doctor. Jo Martin is a fine actress, but she is totally miscast, and can never be persuasive as the doctor, as she isn't skinny enough to play the part, and she isn't weird looking at all, unlike Capaldi, Smith, Whittaker, Tennant, and all the doctor actors, who look like space aliens just from their weird-ass faces and facial expressions.
@HedeccaTamer
@HedeccaTamer 3 года назад
@@annaclarafenyo8185 There's a LOT to unpack here. 1. You prefer the white, underdeveloped shallow character over the black badass 2. Fat shaming 3. Calling actors weird looking I genuinely feel like you're either a skinny white conservative living on your Dad's money, or an insecure fat racist. Pick one.
@annaclarafenyo8185
@annaclarafenyo8185 3 года назад
@@HedeccaTamer Jo Martin's character is not "badass", she isn't a doctor at all. The Doctor is childlike, and projects authority despite acting ridiculous. The doctor is an action hero, and must therefore be quite thin, so as to run around spaceships and such. Jo Martin isn't thin enough by any stretch of the imagination. Ignoring the obvious physical qualifications needed to play the Doctor when casting a POC isn't anti-racism, it's the exact opposite.
@HotaruMitsuki101
@HotaruMitsuki101 3 года назад
Sad realization: if Jo Martin doesn't get her own series, she's gonna join Paul McGann in the "Doctors that really should have gotten a TV run" category and people will never shut up about it.
@beesree39
@beesree39 3 года назад
Here's to hoping the "revisiting old faces" thing gives us McGann
@MrSukram777
@MrSukram777 3 года назад
At least Paul McGann got lots of cool stories in Big Finish. Perhaps they give her some audio stories as well. Hopefully. They also did this for John Hurt (real shame he didn't live to meet Derek Jacobi's War Master btw, but again Paul McGann did).
@meatrace
@meatrace 3 года назад
@@beesree39 Given the dearth of good writing on the TV series lately, they should just hand the whole show over to Big Finish. A multi-doctor story with McGann would be amazing.
@aliservan7188
@aliservan7188 3 года назад
Her lack of any real, coherent story and position within Who history has stopped her character getting her own storied for Big Finish, and they've REALLY wanted to use her.
@quickflash2studios232
@quickflash2studios232 Год назад
Big Finish are doing some stories with her now! Maybe, like McGann, they make her popular enough that she gets a “Night of the Doctor” or more.
@kat8559
@kat8559 3 года назад
Her costume is also STUNNING. I would easily watch doctor who again.
@kat8559
@kat8559 3 года назад
If we're retconning can we get rid of the doctor being the super speshul child
@Joe_Brennan_
@Joe_Brennan_ 3 года назад
I might see if I can find a shirt that matches the colour of hers
@ItsMeHarry
@ItsMeHarry 3 года назад
I honestly do really hope Jo returns as a full Doctor, she really does a great job of catching the Doctor's presence and feels like her own character where I just feel Jodie feels like a bit of a caricature, in part possibly due to her own admission that she wasn't a big fan of the show before whereas Jo knows exactly who the Doctor is because she's watched since she was a kid. I feel like this is a lesson showrunner's should learn that unless someone has a good passion for the role and properly knows the character, then maybe they should question it a little
@Joe_Brennan_
@Joe_Brennan_ 3 года назад
I don't want to gatekeep and say you HAVE to have seen x amount of Doctor Who before understanding the role... BUT it seems painfully clear that Jodie has hardly seen any Doctor Who, but you can tell Jo has
@ItsMeHarry
@ItsMeHarry 3 года назад
@@Joe_Brennan_ Yeah exactly, I don't think you _have_ to be a fan or even know a lot prior, but when everyone else in the role since new who has been a fan previously and seems to have much better understandings of the character it is clear that you have to either be the best of the best and/or know the Doctor well, and whilst Jodie is an amazing actress I don't think she fully grasps the role properly and can carry it with her performance alone where previous Doctors could make a subpar story more enjoyable
@joshuareynolds23
@joshuareynolds23 3 года назад
@@ItsMeHarry this is exactly why peter capaldi resonated with me so strongly even at its worst moments he always felt like the doctor.
@mikeymcdoable
@mikeymcdoable 3 года назад
I read somewhere she was a fan of Capaldi and I can really see his gravitas in her performance.
@annaclarafenyo8185
@annaclarafenyo8185 3 года назад
@@mikeymcdoable She has TOO MUCH gravitas, the Doctor isn't a college professor, the Doctor is an overgrown child, and acts like a child, since Troughton established the trope. All the doctors have had a certain childishness, even the most malicious 6th doctor. That balancing act between authoritativeness and childishness is what Jodie Whittaker does well, and Jo Martin can't really do, because she isn't the right type for the part.
@AFCManUk
@AFCManUk 3 года назад
At the first reveal of Jodie's Doctor, I thought, "Yes. She's going to be a bad-ass Doctor, who won't take crap from anyone." Boy, was I wrong, as she turned out all 'Disney'!
@annaclarafenyo8185
@annaclarafenyo8185 3 года назад
Jodie Whittaker does an excellent job. She isn't the writer of the season.
@annaclarafenyo8185
@annaclarafenyo8185 3 года назад
@XML studios This is a ridiculously common wrong take seeded by right-wing trolls. Jodie Whittaker did an excellent job, her best episode (Demons of the Punjab) shows what she is capable of when she has a good script, and even "Spyfall" and "Kerblam!" were passable thriller episodes. The real problem is the ridiculous "Chosen One" nonsense in the final episode. I actually admire Jo Martin for forcing me to believe she actually was also the Doctor, even though she is so miscast. I began to believe at the end. That's it. The whole 'Doctors before the first doctor' and 'Timeless Child' nonsense is absurd, it is extraordinarily destructive, and it turns Dr. Who into Harry Potter. Dr. Who is a self-made story born of socialist Britain. It isn't the "I come from a long line of NOBILITY!" white-Russian fantasy that Harry Potter represents. If it becomes that, even a little bit, it will lose it's entire fanbase and be cancelled permanently.
@annaclarafenyo8185
@annaclarafenyo8185 3 года назад
@XML studios It comes from Missy's line in the previous season "Not all of us can afford the upgrade...", it's a time-lord joke.
@annaclarafenyo8185
@annaclarafenyo8185 3 года назад
@@TPH250290 You are objectively wrong.
@alexrobertssings
@alexrobertssings 2 года назад
I think you've summed up my problems with the characterisation of Thirteen. She's like a Disney channel character. Even when they try to give her edge, she had to remain morally pure. It doesn't work at all.
@MyAbridged
@MyAbridged 3 года назад
How? Easy, just have the 13th Doctor regenerate due to some form of enormous psychic attack which leaves 14 with scrambled memories and an arc of herself remembering her past.
@Joe_Brennan_
@Joe_Brennan_ 3 года назад
That idea could be really interesting. There are so many possibilities and I’m not sure I’d mind any of them
@aliwantizu
@aliwantizu 3 года назад
@@Joe_Brennan_ I also would LOVE to see Jo as 14. Perhaps this idea: Jodie 13 becomes Jo 14. 14 find herself taken into the past to try to save the Timelords (that's why she was working for them,) but it's against her will so that's why she hides her identity and buries the Tardis. When she greets 13 at the buried Tardis, she just had her identity restored, but NOT her full memories. In order to truly hide from the timelords and the Judoon she hid her memories and her identity separately (and it STILL wasn't enough to hide her from the Judoon which shows how awesome they are as trackers.) This way it hopefully covers all the bases and perhaps gives a plausible answer as to what was going on.
@KenjiHouston
@KenjiHouston 3 года назад
Your video got me to think. What if Jo Martin was the 13th Doctor from get go.
@mahfuzurchowdhury2765
@mahfuzurchowdhury2765 3 года назад
For someone who says they don't listen to fan feedback, Chibnall was awfully quick to debunk the Parallel universe theory.
@Joe_Brennan_
@Joe_Brennan_ 3 года назад
It only mattered when people were devaluing his progressive milestone
@dianasampson5116
@dianasampson5116 2 года назад
I've never met someone else who felt EXACTLY the same way I do about Jodie/13. I think Jodie is a brilliant actor. I've seen her in Broadchurch and Black Mirror and clips of her Antigone role with Chris Eccleston, and she's so damn good in them. I was so over the moon when she was announced, but she's mostly fallen flat for me. She doesn't feel like the Doctor and I've been so sad about it. But G-d, when Jo Martin showed up, I just fell head over heels. IMMEDIATELY. She blew it out of the water. She was everything I love about the Doctor, charming and witty and clever and edgy and just absolutely amazing. She HAS to be back, she HAS to have her own series, even if it's just one, because she deserves to shine amongst the likes of Eccleston and McGann and Capaldi (my personal favorites).
@wachyfanning
@wachyfanning 3 года назад
The best thing about Jo being the Doctor would be that it would retcon the timeless child. Or at least start the retconning.
@jasonbolding3481
@jasonbolding3481 3 года назад
Well no. Just assume for a moment she was a past incarnation, she could still be the 14th doctor too, we already know from the curator the doctor revisits at least a couple regeneration looks
@wachyfanning
@wachyfanning 3 года назад
​@@jasonbolding3481 It wouldn't _necessarily_ retcon, but it certainly could. And should.
@ShadeSlayer1911
@ShadeSlayer1911 3 года назад
That in it of itself would be a great reason for her to be the next Doctor.
@wolf1066
@wolf1066 3 года назад
Definitely! Bring in Jo as the Doctor and retcon the Timeless Child.
@AllThingsDalek
@AllThingsDalek 3 года назад
I am 95% confident it will be Jo Martin. It seems unlikely that they would set up an entire incarnation of the doctor without using her.
@Joe_Brennan_
@Joe_Brennan_ 3 года назад
I hope you're right
@donb7519
@donb7519 3 года назад
That assumes theyre really planning at all and i feel like she was supposed to be pre hartnell
@oxenford539
@oxenford539 3 года назад
@@donb7519 she can't be pre-hartnell. the tardis didn't get stuck as a police box until episode 2. i get that it could have been an oversight, but that's a pretty damn big oversight. imo she's not pre-hartnell
@meatrace
@meatrace 3 года назад
They set up the whole "last Time Lord" thing just to say "oops, lol nah" and then blow up Gallifrey anyway. They have no clue what the fuck they're doing.
@TheFjerstad
@TheFjerstad 3 года назад
With an audience of basically zero
@jsnow7919
@jsnow7919 3 года назад
I never really understood why 13 or Jo Martin didn't sit down and discuss their own timeline after the adventure. It's not like they were split up at the end. They decided to go their separate ways without any discussion :/
@greghawkins59
@greghawkins59 3 года назад
Jo martin is an absolutely perfect casting and easily the best dressed doctor. 100% should be the 14th or 15th doctor
@desperatemohammedantheworl5833
@desperatemohammedantheworl5833 3 года назад
Nah. I think it would finally kill New Who. Interested to see Joe's reasoning though.
@greghawkins59
@greghawkins59 3 года назад
@@desperatemohammedantheworl5833 how would it kill the show? She was the best bit of series 12 and having her return would intrigue enough people to watch the show and if she's well written 🤞🤞 it'll be a great boost to the show. And the female doctor hurdle has already been gotten over so that wouldn't stop it.
@joshuareynolds23
@joshuareynolds23 3 года назад
@@greghawkins59 the best bit of an absolutely abysmal series.
@matthewrickard5050
@matthewrickard5050 3 года назад
@@joshuareynolds23 yep but she was still good tho
@matthewrickard5050
@matthewrickard5050 3 года назад
@@desperatemohammedantheworl5833 how?
@MrVoid666
@MrVoid666 3 года назад
the doctor (for me) has a sense of authority and old soul energy and Jo just has IT I've had an idea for a while that i wouldn't mind them burning through doctors quicker, a couple single series arcs or even divide a series among two doctors id rather that than miss so many amazing actors that deserve a shot. Tilda Swinton was made for the role along with ever other role seemingly
@asdatrollys8944
@asdatrollys8944 3 года назад
Imagine being outshone by a character that was in one and a bit episodes.
@Joe_Brennan_
@Joe_Brennan_ 3 года назад
It's not a great reflection on Jodie, but maybe Jo is just that good
@oxenford539
@oxenford539 3 года назад
@@Joe_Brennan_ or maybe jodie is just that crap. either way, one of these actors is clearly better than the other for the role.
@annaclarafenyo8185
@annaclarafenyo8185 3 года назад
She wasn't outshone, Jo Martin was obviously and painfully miscast.
@ShadeSlayer1911
@ShadeSlayer1911 3 года назад
@@oxenford539 Porque no los dos?
@markelliott9737
@markelliott9737 3 года назад
@@annaclarafenyo8185 IMO you have that backwards, Jo Martin felt like the Doctor from pretty much the first scene after the reveal. Jodie still doesn't feel like the Doctor after two seasons. Jodie feels like a fan playing Doctor Who in a very expensive fan film.
@Raven-Woods
@Raven-Woods 3 года назад
I wholeheartedly agree that Jo Martin should be the next Doctor. All of the issues you talk about regarding representation is just compounded by the fact that Chibnull decided to make Ruth an incarnation of the Doctor on a whim during a call with Vinay Patel. (I also really hope that Martin never saw or heard about the article where he says that.)
@Its_Dave_Just_Dave
@Its_Dave_Just_Dave 3 года назад
In her few scenes, Jo Martin was miles ahead of Jodie's Doctor, in terms of interest, excitement, charisma, acting as well as sheer presence - not because shes Black but because she has more about her and stands out as being the Doctor.
@wolf1066
@wolf1066 3 года назад
Jo Martin seriously *rocked* as the Doctor. Definitely want her to be the 14th - preferrably in some way that undoes the stupid Timeless Child arc... surely there's got to be some way whereby the not remembering the 13th Doctor can be explained away.
@HedeccaTamer
@HedeccaTamer 3 года назад
"I don't want to sound entitled but do what I want or else" genius
@chrislopez816
@chrislopez816 3 года назад
She played the doctor so amazing! I even screamed when she exposed herself as The Doctor. Even her uniform was perfect. Everything about her worked so well with the doctors before thirteen. I’m sorry but something went wrong with the creation of 13.
@666tiger7
@666tiger7 3 года назад
Great video. I strongly agree that Jo Martin needs to be the next Doctor, but only if BENNI is her sidekick. Otherwise it just won't work.
@Joe_Brennan_
@Joe_Brennan_ 3 года назад
Thank you for watching, Spicy Meat Entertainment! I appreciate the comment, and the username
@purefoldnz3070
@purefoldnz3070 3 года назад
aw hell no. Could not disagree more
@griskin_8202
@griskin_8202 3 года назад
I mean, she has to be a future Doctor, her TARDIS was a police box, and that happened with Hartnell. Chibnal wouldn't have done that for no reason, right? Chibbers? You thought about it, right? Chris?
@cynicalwho4039
@cynicalwho4039 3 года назад
Excellent video Joe! You really knocked it out of the park with this one, some really well made points with strong reasoning behind them. Well done!
@Joe_Brennan_
@Joe_Brennan_ 3 года назад
Thank you, my friend, that is kind and nice
@EstrethAthema
@EstrethAthema 3 года назад
Like you, I’ve been desperate to like Jodie’s take on the Doctor but after 2 series I’m still not entirely sure on her. I’m still optimistic about series 13 like I always am when a new Series of Who comes out but It really feels to me that Jodie’s heart just really isn’t in this role Jo Martin though, as soon as she said ‘let’s take this from the top, hello, I am the Doctor’ I believed her
@Joe_Brennan_
@Joe_Brennan_ 3 года назад
It's really interesting that this has happened to so many people
@ReubsWalsh
@ReubsWalsh 3 года назад
I don't think I've ever seen a sci-fi fan commentary where I agreed deeply and strongly with every single word. Thank you for making this.
@Joe_Brennan_
@Joe_Brennan_ 3 года назад
Thank you for watching! I appreciate the support
@Sunnucksboi
@Sunnucksboi 3 года назад
Your Chris Chibnall impression is fairly on point to be fair
@Joe_Brennan_
@Joe_Brennan_ 3 года назад
I lied about not knowing how he spoke, I studied him for months
@markelliott9737
@markelliott9737 3 года назад
I feel that most of the modern Doctors have felt like the Doctor from the first episode. By the end of Rose you could totally buy Christopher Eccleston as the Doctor. There were so many great moments in the episode and it was a great re-introduction to the character. Tennant spent most of his first episode in a coma, however he was still able to feel like the Doctor, and the entire scene where he explained that he didn't know who he was yet was great in and out of character (as it was clearly also being used to explain regeneration to new fans). Smith was also brilliant from the start. The only Doctor's who didn't feel right from the start (IMO) were Capaldi and Whittaker, the only difference is that with Capaldi that was deliberate on behalf of the writers (which is why we had the scene with Smith). However, it wasn't long before you could start to see Capaldi was the Doctor (just that he was very different from the previous ones). We have had two seasons of Whittaker and she still doesn't feel like the Doctor - she comes across as someone playing the Doctor in a fan film where the writers and directors don't really understand the character. This is made even more apparent when we have Jo Martin come along and own the character from the very start.
@matthewvivian7235
@matthewvivian7235 3 года назад
I completely agree. I never really clicked with the Thirteenth Doctor, but Jo Martin won me over right away. I think what it really boils down to The Doctor, no matter who plays them, can command the room. Jodie always felt like a side-character to her own show to me, but Jo Martin instantly makes her presence known and holds our attention.
@matthewvivian7235
@matthewvivian7235 3 года назад
@GamingWithChu She's in almost every scene, yes, but I just feel like when the other Doctors enter a room, you know they're the smartest person and the bravest and people notice them right away. They express this in different ways, but they enter a room and without even trying, they're the focus. I've just never really got that impression from the Thirteenth. Like she spends the entire finale of her second season imprisoned, barely says a word, then doesn't save the day at the end. The Tenth Doctor had a similar situation, but he had a plan and was playing The Master all along.
@ftumschk
@ftumschk 3 года назад
@@matthewvivian7235 _"she spends the entire finale of her second season imprisoned, barely says a word, then doesn't save the day at the end"_ - True, but she didn't write the story. That's Chibnall's fault.
@matthewvivian7235
@matthewvivian7235 3 года назад
@@ftumschk Yeah, I'm not a fan of the character the way she's written or the way she's acted.
@ftumschk
@ftumschk 3 года назад
@@matthewvivian7235 The thing is, unless Chibnall goes, we're likely to be stuck with similarly underwhelming writing for the foreseeable future.
@matthewvivian7235
@matthewvivian7235 3 года назад
@@ftumschk True, but I think with good actors like Jo Martin and Bradley Walsh, they can bring so much to their respective roles that they can kind of do some of his job for him and make you not notice the terrible writing as much. Like, I'm not a huge fan of Series 10, but Peter Capaldi is so inherently watchable.
@thatpeskyrat
@thatpeskyrat 2 года назад
man you’re really funny and your reviews are so thoughtful, i’m enjoying them all!
@wave6553
@wave6553 3 года назад
Completely unrelated but no one will ever convince me not to read or hear his name as Chris Chinball
@etherealtb6021
@etherealtb6021 3 года назад
Thanks for that. Now that's how I'll always hear it. 🤣
@MePeterNicholls
@MePeterNicholls 2 года назад
I BLOODY LOVE Jo Martin as the Doctor
@Domihork
@Domihork 3 года назад
Jo's Doctor could easily be the next Doctor and simply explain it by saying something like "I can't just keep saying "spoilers", I need to shake it up a bit."
@sibionic
@sibionic 3 года назад
are characters still saying that infuriatingly smug phrase "spoilers" in DW?
@znobbz__2874
@znobbz__2874 3 года назад
@@sibionic spoilers
@UgandanPrinc3
@UgandanPrinc3 3 года назад
Pre video comments: 100% agree, here's my own reasoning. from a storytelling standpoint: i just felt in 1 episode she had more of that doctor charisma than 13 did the majority of her series, and it feels like theres a story to tell with her opposed to 13 at this point who feels like theres only a story to tell about her. Also her tardis is a police box, i just don't see a non-contrived reason for it to be so pre-hartnell. from a personal/representation standpoint: When I saw Jo Martin announce herself as the doctor I was pretty exited from a representation standpoint. Capaldi will always be my favorite Doctor, but its nice especially in sci-fi to see a lead that looks like me ya know? However, I felt her utilization was really poor. Having her be more of a mayfly doctor, compared to all others having their own eras doesn't score points for me. At least with the War Doctor, he had a whole movie about him, not to mention the Big Finish line. like imagine if 13 was male and Ruth was played by Jodie, sure we have a female doctor, but it's only a cameo type appearance with little weight. Not exactly giving out awards for that. Then theres her next appearance in the timeless children where she checks all the boxes for the "Magic Negro" stereotype, not to mention she's a fugitive and that connotation of course the one black doctor is falsely or not on the wrong side of the law, just feels to me like they didn't think it through as much as they should have. That being said if if Jo Martin plays 14 a lot of those issues for me either are removed or at least reduced. Post video: completely agree about the toxic positivity and the barrage of child bipoc doctors being tortured and murdered. It's especially not great when we're basically told through Ruth and later Ryan (lets not forget what they have in common) that none of that matters cause she still the doctor accept it. Also, Not sure how to feel about that idea that assuming they changed her DNA to make her a time lady/lord after teteun & later the time lords finished with her, she then became a while male for 13 straight incarnations, something just doesn't sit right there
@Joe_Brennan_
@Joe_Brennan_ 3 года назад
I'm glad you agree! It's funny that your pre-video comment made very similar points to the ones I made, means I'm definitely not alone on the matter
@annaclarafenyo8185
@annaclarafenyo8185 3 года назад
How can she be the doctor? The doctor is a small wiry childlike elf. She's a relatively big woman who project matronly authority, not childishness. She was completely miscast, but managed to play the part reasonably anyway, which is no small accolade to her acting skills.
@UgandanPrinc3
@UgandanPrinc3 3 года назад
@@annaclarafenyo8185 I going to assume your trolling since that makes no sense, but I have some free time so I’ll indulge a bit. “Small wiry childlike elf” 1st Doctor, childlike elf? Nope 2nd Doctor small childlike elf? Yes! But also quite manipulative when he wants to be. 3rd Doctor, small, childlike elf? Nope 4th Doctor small elf? Nope 5th Doctor small childlike elf? Nope 6th Doctor small wiry childlike elf? Nope 7th Doctor, childlike? On a surface level yes, if you pay attention, no. 8th Doctor small elf? Nope War Doctor small childlike elf? Nope. 9th Doctor small childlike elf? Nope. 10th Doctor small elf? Nope, and he certainly wasn’t childlike by his death. 11th Doctor small elf nope? Childlike? Yes, by design, old man in young mans body after all. 12th Doctor small childlike elf? Nope By your definition of the Doctor, until 13, barely any of them qualify under your requirements. Especially when only 3 main doctors have been what most people would argue short. (1,2,7) heck, even 13 isn’t short for the average woman’s height, she’s above it. And don’t get me started on the Fugitive Doctor being too authoritative. Rewatch the 1st, 3rd, 5th, 6th, 7th doctors or frankly any of the modern Doctors, especially 12 or 9, or 10 when he’s angry, and you know that’s just straight up not true. I mean hey if you like those traits in a Doctor that’s totally fine, but let’s not pretend that’s anywhere near the default
@annaclarafenyo8185
@annaclarafenyo8185 3 года назад
@@UgandanPrinc3 All the doctors were THIN, WIRY, CHILDLIKE elfs starting with number 2, because Troughton defined the role. Number 3 was the least like this, but from 4 on, it was established permanently. Jo Martin was terribly miscast, she has the wrong body type, and she doesn't have the alien features. It only works because of the element of surprise, if they had cast a weird looking person, like the Doctor always is (like Jodie Whittaker is, for instance), we would have seen the twist a mile away. I don't accept Jo Martin as a reasonable doctor, but I can see she did a pretty good job despite the miscasting.
@philhiggins7079
@philhiggins7079 3 года назад
@@annaclarafenyo8185 What in the actual fuck are you talking about? That has never been a "requirement" of the Doctor. Ever. At all. You've fabricated this nonsense in your head. You think Tom Baker is thin and wiry? You think Capaldi played the Doctor as "childlike"? Or Ecclestone? You're replied to a lot of comments and my takeaway is, like most racists, you're a coward hiding behind thin shit excuses for why Jo "can not" play the Doctor.
@alexnewby2004
@alexnewby2004 3 года назад
I think Jo Martins could come just after the war doctor. It would explain how she was capable of fighting the judoon and why neither remembers the other
@eclaire_x88x
@eclaire_x88x 2 года назад
She literally nailed it in one episode, thats my Doctor, I don't know what it is she had that Jodie doesn't as the Doctor but she does! I wish they could make her work as the next one some how hopefully RTD can work it out 🤞
@alansmithee419
@alansmithee419 3 года назад
"I saw the spark and was reassured that I do not, in fact, hate women." I don't know if that was intended to be hilarious but it damn well was.
@Silverwind87
@Silverwind87 2 года назад
I just realized that the Chameleon Arch would be the perfect way to explain why the Fugitive Doctor didn't recognize Thirteen. The Eighth Doctor had amnesia after his regeneration (just like Jodie), and thought he was half human. One of the explanations for this was a broken Chameleon Arch. So maybe Ruth forgot the essence of the Thirteenth Doctor, or messed it up so she thinks that _she_ is the 13th. Like when Jackson Lake thought that he was the Tenth Doctor.
@Aralluen
@Aralluen 3 года назад
got to say, her Tardis is totally my favourite
@MichaelM28
@MichaelM28 3 года назад
R.I.P DOCTOR WHO 1963 - 2017
@MightyMarioBros378
@MightyMarioBros378 Год назад
R.I.P DOCTOR WHO 1963 - 1966
@Sophie-mv7bd
@Sophie-mv7bd 3 года назад
Jo Martin is a strong presence that doesn't take crap from anyone which is what the doctor should be
@harryhoulberg7700
@harryhoulberg7700 3 года назад
Jo Martin as the next incarnation would be brilliant and could even explain why a pre Hartnell Doctor's Tardis is stuck as a police box. Not only that but introducing the next Doctor halfway through another Doctor's run is a pretty smart way of skipping the fandoms inevitable and initial distain of incarnations. I loved Jo Martin's portrayal and even though I've really come round to like Jodie I think Jo Martin as the next Doctor would be an excellent return to a more aggressive and commanding incarnation.
@rerenaissance7487
@rerenaissance7487 3 года назад
Yes, I LOVED the fact that some people were saying "People are, like, hating on series 11? Because? Like? They're racist and misogynist?" And Jo Martin appears and we all say "Now THAT'S the Doctor. She's black and female? So? Who cares about crap like that? Who even notices that stuff? She's The Doctor, writ large. Book her. Now."
@NelsonStJames
@NelsonStJames 3 года назад
To sort of paraphrase the Godfather, " It's not that Jodie Whitaker was a bad doctor, it's that Chibnall was a bad showrunner and writer . . . "
@krisbadwolf9429
@krisbadwolf9429 3 года назад
I didn't care if she was black, white, asian a man or a woman. As Doctor Who fans we know "the Doctor" when we see them. Jo Martin WAS the doctor. From the first, stand up strait, "Hello, I'm the Doctor" I said "Yes Ma'am you are!" Jodie never was. I think in BBC's efforts to ground break and make a female doctor they just gave it to someone who they thought might be ok. Not someone who deserves the role. Jo Martin absolutely deserves to be the Doctor. My God she was good.
@TheMuppetDon
@TheMuppetDon 10 месяцев назад
I want Jo Martin as the 16th Doctor and there can be some sort of mind wipe plot witch would allow for these episode to have happened, then by the end of her run she will some how be able to remember again if RTD still want to be able to use past doctors in stories.
@theesweatydrummer
@theesweatydrummer 2 года назад
I certainly agree. Jo Martin was more the Doctor in her one episode than Whittaker has been in 3 season serieses. Then again, with the corrupted values of the character Whittaker has been playing, I’m convinced she could actually have been playing the Valeyard this entire time.
@dominickeijzer5844
@dominickeijzer5844 3 года назад
That one clip of Ten opening the door, when watched with hindsight, completely defines his character. He opens it slowly and calmly, then smirks. He's calm and patient, but emotional and impulsive. He's also grandiose and sees himself as the centre of everything (that one's more camerawork, though.) Eleven is also defined by his first couple scenes. Him parading about the TARDIS with his new regeneration encapsulates his raw energy, the dangling from his crashing blue box, barely missing Big Ben (I know that's the name of the bell but I can't remember the name of the tower) shows his action and theatrics. Twelve, while not my favourite Doctor, also has this. He's sudden, but he takes his time before every move, as shown by the sudden change and him slowly approaching and inspecting Clara. Meanwhile, all Thirteen did was drop a ring, blink, then look at a panel. This shows... Nothing. She's bland.
@petraw9792
@petraw9792 3 года назад
To be fair, Ten slept through his first adventure. Which only highlights that Rose (and Jackie) could carry an episode on her own.
@dominickeijzer5844
@dominickeijzer5844 3 года назад
@@petraw9792 Aside him stepping in at the end, to save the day just as Rose is about to die, or saving their lives and telling them about Pilot Fish, warning them of the incoming threat?
@dominickeijzer5844
@dominickeijzer5844 3 года назад
I mean, you could argue that the ring dropping indicates she stays alone (which contradicts having three companions), the panel looking that she goes straight to business, or likes to gather facts, but that's basically who The Doctor is. Solitary, intelligent, eager to solve problems. It's basically saying "New Doctor is here, intelligent, a hero, eager to solve problems" There's no substance to it, nothing unique.
@picklesparkerreviews
@picklesparkerreviews 3 года назад
Great video Joe 👍and thanks for the cameo 😂
@Joe_Brennan_
@Joe_Brennan_ 3 года назад
Thank you, George! I'll forgive you if you never reply my tweets ever again out of fear of being screenshotted
@MakiPcr
@MakiPcr 3 года назад
If BBC gave me a job I would do this: Jo Martin is a future incarnation of the Doctor, the Division somehow rope her into working with them and messed with her memory hence why she doesn't remember 13. And we're dealing with the Timeless Child in this story too; the Doctor is not the Timeless Child, that was something the Master made up to mess with the Doctor's head, it's his way to get her attention; however, the Timeless Child is real and the Doctor finds a way to help them (maybe the Timeless Child is the Master, hence why he's so messed up)
@nicholassouza5475
@nicholassouza5475 3 года назад
I agree 10000% that she should be 14 because she just that doctor sparks that Smith, Tennant, and Capaldi had on their first time on screen.
@capricorn878
@capricorn878 2 года назад
Jo Martin deserved so so much, nothing against Whittaker but i would be very pleased with Martin being the 13th since the beginning, she reminds me of Capaldi
@doctordetroit1217
@doctordetroit1217 3 года назад
Peter Capaldi was the 13th Doctor, can't wait to find out who will be the 14th Doctor, if the beeb ever bring it back that is!
@WallisTylerJ
@WallisTylerJ 2 года назад
The only way that Jo Martin works as "The Doctor" is if we go back to before the Hartnell regeneration. The best way to do this would be a spinoff of life before the Hartnell time. I want it, because she's an amazing Doctor, but still it can't be a future regeneration of Jodi.
@judeconnor-macintyre9874
@judeconnor-macintyre9874 3 года назад
maybe when 13 is killed she's so injured she can't regenerate so Ruth Doctor has to give some of her regenerative energy to 13. 13 regenerates into Ruth Doctor and Ruth Doctor goes to Gallifrey presumably to become the first doctor.
@arjenlaan4103
@arjenlaan4103 3 года назад
Jo Martin would be perfect. I hope that the writers are clever enough to let the regeneration take place in a location somewhere far in the past, and do some amnesia stuff to at least plug those potential plot holes, but, yeah, I'd so see her as the lead for a couple of seasons. I do like the 13th doctor though, personally, Not to keen on some of the writing, or on the companions for that matter, but to me, Whittaker combines the best of Patrick Throughton with the best of Tom Baker, her doctor is clever, vibrant, light, silly, vulnerable, and accessible. And sure, compared to Tennant and Capaldi it's easy to conclude that she is "worse", but, goodness, if those two were the litmus test, there would be scant few "good" doctors.
@Joe_Brennan_
@Joe_Brennan_ 3 года назад
I'm always really glad to see fans of 13. It means she's doing something right, even if it's not for me.
@olivergille8305
@olivergille8305 3 года назад
Tbf it's difficult to determine the race of a people who evolved on a planet which is apparently like the serengeti all year round except it's always snowing.
@JPVersus_
@JPVersus_ 3 года назад
I really wish Emma Thompson got the role of the 14th doctor
@nickmellish
@nickmellish 3 года назад
Great video as always. I feel the main thing holding Martin back as Doctor 14 is that we have in essence already seen her debut story, so any "first" story may feel a bit redundant: a 'Clara problem'. Add that to the ratings doing a good impression of that song about jumping a thousand feet without a parachute and you'd have the issue also of introducing her to a casual or new audience: "She's the new Doctor! Well, ish. Let me tell you about this story no-one watched." And yet... you're right, she nailed the role absolutely. No questions asked. And it *would* be a huge milestone whereas right now it's a plot point that raises more questions than anything else. I'm torn. I want it in some ways, but I cannot see it happening because of how it's started.
@Joe_Brennan_
@Joe_Brennan_ 3 года назад
Thank you for watching, Nick! I doubt they'll actually give her the role, for all the reasons you mentioned and because of how tone deaf a lot of the decisions have been recently. But it's nice to dream about what could have been...
@nickmellish
@nickmellish 3 года назад
@@Joe_Brennan_ Oh completely. I'm sure Big Finish will pick her up in the end (with mixed results).
@gladiator652004
@gladiator652004 3 года назад
Jo's charismatic even in her Tesco's advert! She has great screen presence not least in her fleeting appearance in The Timeless Children. I'd love to see her as the Doctor, particularly with a show runner who's more "up to the job". And the tokenism argument made by Dominic G. Martin and yourself is powerful.
@politereminder6284
@politereminder6284 Год назад
Jo Martin really had that spark from the moment she stepped on screen. 😭😭😭 She let us know what could have been. I tried so hard with Jodi and Chbnall. I just glad it's over.🤦
@TheConfusedAdipose
@TheConfusedAdipose 3 года назад
Fantastic video :)
@TheConfusedAdipose
@TheConfusedAdipose 3 года назад
Also the Ryan Johnson head ominously hanging around in the background is slightly terrifying 😭😂
@Joe_Brennan_
@Joe_Brennan_ 3 года назад
@@TheConfusedAdipose Thank you so much! And Rian is a an absolute nightmare when it comes to filming because the camera consistently decides he's more worthy of focus than I am, which I don't necessarily disagree with...
@DonHbankz
@DonHbankz 3 года назад
I’m at 3:21 and I completely agree the Ruth Doctor felt more like the Doctor and more importantly the natural next step for the Doctor after 12 than Jodie it even matches with the theory that each Doctor barring 2 regeneration looks is based on their life. 12 life is dominated by the women he lost plus he no longer needed to be young and strong as he had a new set of regenerations (F U CHIBNALL 🤬🤬🤬🤬) so it was natural he would subconsciously take a form that reflects them Bill, River, Missy and Clara and the Ruth Doctor fits that perfectly plus she has 12 steeliness and gravitas and the Doctor’s ability to take control of a room and other traits which Jodie misses and severely lacks even when they try and force it
@sofiasaaand8083
@sofiasaaand8083 3 года назад
it would be more fun if Nardole became the 14th doctor, but seriously u should make a video about that
@GeorgeTheDinoGuy
@GeorgeTheDinoGuy 3 года назад
Nardy gang agrees 👊
@Joe_Brennan_
@Joe_Brennan_ 3 года назад
Nardole is too cool to be the Doctor
@annaclarafenyo8185
@annaclarafenyo8185 3 года назад
@@Joe_Brennan_ Nardole can't be the doctor. Ever. For the same reason Jo Martin can't be the doctor. He doesn't look right.
@sata4756
@sata4756 2 года назад
Couldn’t get into Jody and I was so excited…might try this again
@Shad0hawK
@Shad0hawK 3 года назад
I like Jo Martin. And would like to see her as the Doctor, simply because she is "doctory" without having to interject identity politics into it.
@Jackson-ub1uv
@Jackson-ub1uv 4 месяца назад
One of 13's _biggest_ detractors is that she never seemed to find joy in _anything,_ instead spending her entire run complaining, lecturing, and looking down on everyone.
@pundahandz7403
@pundahandz7403 3 года назад
15:25 Gimme that meme. An idea I've just had to make Martin 14 would be that 13 sacrifices her incarnation's memories to regain her supposed pre-Hartnell memories. Problem with that is they need to make those Division memories personally matter to the Doctor to be somewhat satisfying for the audience. But yea I ain't a writer either aha lolz
@nickalexander3755
@nickalexander3755 3 года назад
At the absolute very least, they should bring her back for some Big Finish. I would much rather see her on the show, but they'd really be stupid not to do some audiodramas with her
@Joe_Brennan_
@Joe_Brennan_ 3 года назад
Big Finish feels inevitable if we don't get her back on telly. But I'd much rather see her in action first
@alexhando8541
@alexhando8541 3 года назад
I agree. Jo Martin would be really cool.
@welch_inc6532
@welch_inc6532 3 года назад
Got a feeling that 14 might be Olly Alexander. His interviews with BBC keeps brining up the question of ‘would you play the Doctor?’. Something that happened a lot with Capaldi during Matt Smiths last year.
@DaDunge
@DaDunge 3 года назад
I'll take any woman or man as the doctor so long as Chibnail is not the showrunner.
@EAKugler
@EAKugler 3 года назад
I agree. I hate that I get lumped in with the baddies because of taste.
@alexjames7144
@alexjames7144 3 года назад
I feel like Jodie's Doctor as an eternal activist could have worked if the script they gave her wasn't so clunky and preachy. She's a great actor so I have a hard time saying it's her fault and not the script considering that the dialogue of every character is generally cringe inducing. Part of me thinks it was intentional to make her unlikeable so they'd not have to have another woman but idk it's probably just incompetence.
@carealoo744
@carealoo744 Год назад
People STILL ask me: "Oh that's with the new one who's a woman right?" She's already regenerated!
@joshua127399
@joshua127399 3 года назад
i saw the scongo photo in the background...gave me flash backs to TARDISposting
@Joe_Brennan_
@Joe_Brennan_ 3 года назад
He is always watching...
@xander_9316
@xander_9316 3 года назад
I like the idea of Jo Martin being the 14th Doctor because it makes the masters claim of the timeless child have less weight behind them.Also her costume is cool
@NymphieJP
@NymphieJP 3 года назад
We’ve had the same personality like 3 times out of 4 recently. Jo gives a different aura, ya know.
@NintenRob
@NintenRob 3 года назад
The thing with Jo, she already doesn't make sense as pre hartnell. Pre hartnell wouldn't have the police box tardis. I'm for it, even if it means weirdness bringing back time lords again and stuff.
@xhosameulens4753
@xhosameulens4753 3 года назад
“I did not in fact hate women” made me giggle 😭
@Joe_Brennan_
@Joe_Brennan_ 3 года назад
It was quite a relief!
@desperatemohammedantheworl5833
@desperatemohammedantheworl5833 3 года назад
Made me sad. The fact he thought his dislike of Jodie had anything to do with her being female is bizarre. Unless he was being sarcastic.
@etherealtb6021
@etherealtb6021 3 года назад
@@Joe_Brennan_ lol. It was okay to not like Jodie as the Doctor for critical reasons, as you've done. It wasn't okay to for people who said making The Doctor a woman was the sole reason for the failure of the Chibnall era, like a man saying the same s**ty lines & in the same badly produced episodes would've magically fixed everything. Although you've convinced me they'd have been marginally better with Jo Martin! 🤣
@e.l.wallace9060
@e.l.wallace9060 3 года назад
Joe martin is a doctor.I agree
@thebasementfilmgroup
@thebasementfilmgroup 3 года назад
What we actually need is a DW expanded universe.... Why can't we have a "Further Adventures" series that explored a variety of Doctors, companions or even villains in one off stories - David, Matt and Peter could easily pick up the mantle for an episode in a mixed bag of stories - even McGann could get one too..... anything is possible. But should Jo get a series - should she be the next Doctor? Absolutely - and what they should do which would totally throw a curve ball is kill of Jodie's Doc before the end of the next series and catch the audience totally off guard.... regenerate into Jo's Doctor and hit the ground running - how cool would that be?
@kurukurushuffle
@kurukurushuffle 3 года назад
There's also the alternative of just not having Jodie regenerate into Jo Martin, but rather go back in the Doctor's timeline and do a few series with Jo Martin, before coming back to do the "fourteenth" regeneration. It'd be a welcome break in structure, we could even have the Doctor encountering old foes again without actually knowing who they are, while they have a lot of beef with her.
@Joe_Brennan_
@Joe_Brennan_ 3 года назад
I think such a break in formula would be a bit alienating for the casual audience, Doctor Who has always been a show that pushes itself forward, which is why I'm annoyed that the Timeless Children spent so much time focussing on the past
@charleslee8313
@charleslee8313 3 года назад
If -- what the Great Curator said -- it happens THIS soon, and the 13th goes back to the face of "Doctor Ruth," that would be a nice touch. The Doctor is immortal, and has access to time and space, which makes him/her a god. The powers that be in Gallifrey -- despite being grateful that they got their powers from the Doctor -- were afraid. So they "humbled" the Doctor, making him/her believe that after the 13th life, the Doctor will die, so they alter his/her mind, then kill the Doctor, starting the cycle again, but erasing memories of the last 13 adventures. But, due to the Time War, they couldn't alter the Doctor's mind after the "13th" life, so they had to improvise (the crack). That's my idea, in a nutshell. I doubt that Chibnall had the same idea.
@Joe_Brennan_
@Joe_Brennan_ 3 года назад
Who knows what Chibnall is thinking at any time
@hcxpl1
@hcxpl1 3 года назад
I have to say that's exactly what I thought immediately after it was revealed she was The Doctor. She simply IS The Doctor, I have no doubt about it, as soon as Jodie was chosen I was already thinking how they would pull off 14th without enraging the more conservative fans (bc regressing to men would make it feel like "Ok, you got your woman, lets go back to 'The Doctor'" and changing to a black or keeping a female would feel like they were trying too hard) but then we had this revelation and, although I agree it was kinda bad for her to be just a side character, I think it was the best introduction she could ever get, getting people excited and, well, basically solving the whole dilemma.
@hcxpl1
@hcxpl1 3 года назад
I know I already wrote too much but on a side note I was particularly fond of the multiverse theory but also thought it would be very interesting if they made a "Lost History" kinda plot where we discover The Doctor has been all sorts of people and not only caucasian males but someone or something had erased those incarnations from the collective consciousness, and, although that's pretty much what we got and I reckon what they were going for, I did not, in a million years, expect it to be on a Jesus Chosen One Messiah kinda way, which is totally bonkers. A side note on the side note, I do like the idea of regeneration not being a Time-Lord thing but something they stole from another species that were later forgotten.
@nathaniellangham
@nathaniellangham 3 года назад
Really well said.
@craigcharlesworth1538
@craigcharlesworth1538 3 года назад
At the moment Jo Martin has the same status as Michael Jayston and John Hurt, which is to say that fans are aware that they exist but outside fandom nobody cares. Only the 13 series leads really 'count'. I agree that she would be fantastic and I'd like to see her get the role properly, so she gets a fantastic era of her own and doesn't just end up a footnote. I think that would be a real shame.
@Magnet_Chaos
@Magnet_Chaos Год назад
Though War Doctor not working as a Doctor kinda makes sense since he wasn't the Doctor until the final scene right before he regenerated. Though the Fugitive Doctor does feel more organic.
@alexevans9379
@alexevans9379 3 года назад
Brilliant video! I agree!
@johnlochness
@johnlochness 3 года назад
The biggest problem I have with Jo Martin being pre-Hartnell is that mucks up the whole 13 regenerations and the Doctor being given a new regeneration cycle in The Time Of The Doctor.
@archnetwork391
@archnetwork391 3 года назад
You hit the nail directly on the head which is a hard thing to do especially considering their so small. I personally adore Jodie as the Doctor but I can see why she isn’t for everyone and the writing is certainly letting her down. Jo Martin would be excellent as the Doctor though especially if she kept that beautiful gem of a TARDIS.
@Joe_Brennan_
@Joe_Brennan_ 3 года назад
Thank you for the comment! I was worried people wouldn't agree. And I really need to see more of that beautiful TARDIS
@donb7519
@donb7519 3 года назад
The problem is if shes so close to jodie why doesnt she remember her
@TheSenateOfficial
@TheSenateOfficial 3 года назад
Is that penguin in the background my boi Frobisher? Also yeah 100% agree, Jo Martin’s performance just felt really fresh but still Doctor-y. Plus in interviews she has expressed her love for the Capaldi era, so clearly her taste is fantastic.
@joshgames719
@joshgames719 3 года назад
i really hope Jo Martin is the 14th Doctor because she was amazing on the episode she appeared on and not only that she would be the First Female Black Doctor and it would be amazing if she is to be the Next Doctor, i dunno how to word this but I hope Doctor Who does make Jo Martin the Next Doctor she is the perfect fit for the role
@kateglew580
@kateglew580 3 года назад
You couldn't have sounded less like Chris Chibnall if you actually tried. That's a compliment btw
@Joe_Brennan_
@Joe_Brennan_ 3 года назад
I appreciate that compliment honestly
@tombullard123
@tombullard123 3 года назад
we know the doctor can regenerate the same form as shown when he regenerates as tennant from his severed hand, so maybe if jodie died next to jo martin the doctor would once again regenerate as the same form from jo martin so Jo would be a past doctor(possibly) and a future doctor
@The482075
@The482075 3 года назад
Jo Martin Doctor can work. She was brilliant in her brief appearances. I hope she returns.
@serenarenee08
@serenarenee08 2 года назад
She gave me chills. I love her. And passed regenerations can't retain the info when they interact with one another
@Emptylord
@Emptylord 3 года назад
There's also the third option of: why don't we just set the next series of Doctor who *during* Ruth's era? That is to say - we don't get a 14th Doctor next. The revelation of which actor is going to play the 14th Doctor can come after 3 seasons with Ruth during the Division era - or even after a few Division-era Doctors. Maybe we could get a whole season with two Doctors - where Ruth's immediate successor and the 14th Doctor are both "new" at the same time.
@Joe_Brennan_
@Joe_Brennan_ 3 года назад
I don't think the BBC would allow for such a drastic change in the status quo, even if the formula stayed the same
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