I forgot to duck after uploading this. It's ok tho you have every right to disagree! Tons of valid reasons as to why Soto's not worth 700 million, I just wanted to share my thoughts
Tell em'. People have forgotten that RU-vid is an entertainment platform. And I find your opinion entertaining, so while I don't agree with you on this one, thank you. It was entertaining and now I have a new perspective to chew on.
Bro love your videos as always, but Ohtani’s worth is not solely based on his skills but the market he brings with. He brings the entire Asian baseball market behind him and especially the Japanese. Japanese will watch and buy everything that has Ohtani on it.
Soto is 7 years younger than Judge and his skillset/body type will probably age better than Judge, so he deserves far more. He's not getting $700m but a $600m contract with zero deferrals is within reason. I expect him to get the largest contract in North American pro sports in terms of present value.
I mean, Ohtani got his contract coming off of TJ surgery, and that's the second major I jury he suffered in his pitching arm. I'm not a Dodgers fan, but I hope he goes on to pitch at a high level again, but people need to prepare for the not unlikely scenario that Ohtani will be a perpetually injured player when he pitches. Given that, the age difference, and the fact he had zero playoff experience compared to Soto,who if not for Strasburg getting it, would have been a World Series MVP. I'm not saying Soto is better than Ohtani, he isn't. But he's a much, MUCH safer bet than Ohtani as far as a long term contract not being awful by the end. He has almost no injury history and consistently gets better, and has not really even entered his prime. He's going to get better the next 4-6 seasons.
That’s stupid. The contract isn’t based on performance alone, but how much revenue the player generates for the team. It’s business. Ohtani is pretty much paying for his own contract. It’s cheap. Merch, ad space and ticket prices have ballooned. They added a number of new sponsors from Japan and the viewership has skyrocketed. Ohtani is someone people from all over fly to see. Add to that the records he’s broken on his rehab year. Not even close.
This isn't about Pennie's and dollars for owners of teams in major media markets. Owning the team is a plaything for owners of Dodgers, Mets, Yankees. So it doesn't have to balance. If it was the DBacks or the Rangers, yes, you have to be able to pay for the contract with increased revenues, but this isn't the issue for the owners of the big three. For then, it's about pride and desire for championships. It's why Judge, a player who will not age well got the contest he got last year. Yes, Judge sells well globally (you see it here in Europe, Dutch and Germans wearing Judge jerseys). But it's not a good contract longterm. But it increases chance for WS in the next 5 years. Otani will always "out earn" Soto, but over the length of contract for both players, the increased chance of a WS is similar. And for Steinbrenners, Cohen, and such...that fact matters more than what they can sell since they have more money than god. Again, the business man says "no way." The prideful billionaire says, "I will dominate the world." It's why the Pads had to trade him and the Yanks just need to fill out the check.
I haven’t seen a minute of this video yet but I know that whatever he says won’t matter because Soto isn’t nearly as valuable as ohtani at fully healthy but I could see him setting a record for a position player contract, there’s just no universe that he gets $700 million without deferring a large amount of it
I have to disagree. I really don't think Juan Soto deserves Shohei Ohtani's contract. Don't get me wrong Soto is a hell of a player and come offseason, he will probably get a fat contract. I personally think Shohei is a better hitter, but even if I were to concede that Soto is a better hitter, he doesn't PITCH. Shohei's $700m is an evaluation of his talent as a hitter AND a pitcher. Even if Shohei wasn't a pitcher, he is still raking in cash for the Dodgers... an obscene amount of cash. He's served the Dodgers organization millions of Japanese ball fans on a silver platter. The Dodgers will make every penny back and some from Shohei's contract. No other player deserves Shohei's contract IMO.
Shohei makes money for the dodgers Soto don’t. See all the Japanese tourists came to dodgers stadium, does Soto brings Dominican to Yankees stadium ? Hell no, Soto only deserve same money as Judge
I am Dominican and to say Soto deserves Ohtani money is just ludicrous. Soto is a good hitter. Ohtani is a good hitter, base stealer and pitcher. There is no one playing or possibly that ever played ever like Ohtani. Give Soto Judge, Harper money. Maybe a little more cause of inflation 😂
@@nickr3441 Not remotely in the same level as Shohei. Shohei was swarmed by the masses in Korea and Japan at the airport or during transportation. You won't see the same kind of attention to Soto outside USA.
No he doesn’t, Shohei besides the fact that he’s a two way player a two time MVP soon to be 3, he brings way more value off the field. He has an entire country rooting for him and a lot of Japanese money flowing into the Dodger organization just for Shohei. He’ll make the Dodgers that money back within a few years. Shohei makes $40+ million a year off endorsements alone, no one else in baseball can come close to that. He’s a world wide recognized athlete. Juan Soto is good very good but he’s not Ohtani. I see him getting $500 million no more than $600 tho. I see the Mets giving him that money tho
No no no. He should get 400 mil. Bread the record for a “one way” player. But to say he deserves Ohtani who IS THE BEST HITTER AND A TOP 10 PITCHER is hilarious
No way bro actually said Soto deserves 700m 💀. Look man, Yankees stadium field is like a Lego version of a real baseball field in comparison, his defense was average at best and tracking sucked, so you can write him up to be a DH by 2 season from now. No even as a 26 year old Soto does not deserve 700m, if anything on the high end is worth $490m because you paying for a glorified DH who on average will hit 3.2 times a game and can’t run bases to save his career (yanks don’t practice base running). I respect everything he’s been able to accomplish but Soto is literally Max muncy mixed Luis Arraez, and that’s Phenomenal for batting but everything else is mid at best. Yea he’s made good plays while fielding but his ball tracking is technically below average which is overkill to pay $500m for.
I made way too many grammatical errors 🤦🏻♂️, either way the video was still good and yeah honestly if Soto gets 700 he deserves it because his stats batting wise prove he’s elite and a unicorn, that’s exactly why I said he’s half Muncy and Arraez, bros eagle eye is insane and will definitely be a winner until his career is done.
I actually bought the kòse soap they advertised ohtani on, it’s literally like dove but it’s actually butter smooth on the face. 💀 it was $30 but honestly it’s worth it.
I think Juan Soto will get a massive contract given how good he is and how young. But no way hell get a contract like Ohtani since he doesn't pitch, and for the fact he doesn't bring ANOTHER COUNTRY of viewership. More importantly though, hes going to sign with the Dodgers on a pretty big deal and defer a ton of it just like Ohtani so they can play together. My best guess hell get a 500mill for 12-13 years.
I disagree for 3 main reasons 1) Ohtani is more productive as a position player than Soto 2) Ohtani also pitches at a Cy Young level when healthy (TJ surgery notwithstanding) 3) Ohtani brings in way more attention and especially money for whoever is employing him Soto is great, well on his way to a Hall of Fame career. But Ohtani transcends the game and is the closest thing to a real living legend society has seen since before the internet went mainstream
Both of u dummy’s above me never compare a ring less loser who never preforms in playoff to a top 5 lefty of all time get out of here remember sotos already a champion mike trout won’t even come close to the championship series 😂
@@tomoyakadoEven that's a big stretch. Trout was the most valuable player every single year for 10 straight seasons. Even if you remove Ohtani from the league, Soto still is not that.
@@skidrat55 true I am saying at best even if you want to argue that Soto is worth it the only way is that you could argue Soto is only 25 and at best his potential would at best be worth trouts but I do agree with you there
I mean the only thing Soto has on Ohtani is age. Ohtani is a better hitter, better baserunner, and pulls more viewer. Oh and he is an elite starting pitcher who would pull a premier salary if that was all he did. Unless Soto can pull the some insane mindgames on the teams giving him offers, then they would be insane to give him an Ohtani deal.
Personally would disagree. Shohei Ohtani getting $700,000,000 wasn’t solely because he can win games. It was also because Shohei Ohtani gives the Dodgers and MLB as a whole a lot more revenue, so even if he bombs in LA, he’s still worth it. Juan Soto just doesn’t have that type of star power. Personally I would give him a 13-15 year contract worth 550-650mil (and before people say this is basically Ohtani money Ohtani is for 10 years. Technically 20 but the Dodgers are getting 10 years of production from him)
Soto does NOT DESERVE Ohtani money. Ohtani transcends all of American baseball. He’s bigger than anyone in Japan. That’s a HUGE market. Biggest selling merch in baseball. Soto won’t ever come close to his sales, hence his contract shouldn’t be close to Ohtani for the business aspect alone.
Dude... Shohei has the world's 4th largest economy and East Asian market behind him. the deals/popularity he brings, the markets he can appeal to guarantee a return on investment. Soto is from a poor Carribbean island. No corporations, no market. Nothing. He can only penetrate/represent a much smaller diaspora. The money coming in is galaxies apart.
He doesn’t pitch and he doesn’t command the Global market like Ohtani. I bought Japanese Cat food because of Ohtani. Yeah that’s 700 milly. I will buy nothing because of Soto, but he deserves the 2nd highest MLB contract.
Judge was better than Soto in every single offensive category. People say he’s only 26, but I think they’re being too optimistic that he’ll be better than Judge in the future. Anything more than 500 mil for Soto is overvalued.
What does glazing mean ? I show them this video. Soto is a great player, but 700M is insanity. Shohei is way more valuable not only on court but off court is even more. You can debate the dodgers already made 500M + this season alone cuz of shohei. Soto is a great player but at most 500M. If he was a great defender i would pay him 600M because he doesnt disapear in post season. But hes not.
Soto can't field or run. He can barely play RF in Yankee Stadium. Put Soto on the mound, throw 100mph, and strikeout Mike Trout with a 91mph sweeper. Soto is a *hitter* and one of the best, but he's not in Shohei's league. To be fair, no one is.
Nah man, Soto is not getting $700 million. $500? Sure. I think a 10 year, $50 mil/year deal is definitely in the cards (with lots of deferred money of course). But Soto is ONLY a batter. He carries no fielding value and no pitching value.
To say Soto doesn't carry no fielding value is insane! Ohtani is just a DH doesn't even touch the field besides batting. Soto beats Ohtani in that category even on his worse day man.
I firmly believe that he will get a contract on the high 500m in 15 years. If he wins another WS and the MVP; its 100% sure that will be a 600m contract
@@chriisclutch8472 bait or mental retardation?. OHTANI FOUNDED 50/50 AS A REHABBING PITCHER. Hes going to pitch next year while still going to hit close to .300. Soto aint even better than judge LMAO
@@chriisclutch8472 Ohtani didn't touch the field because he's a rehabbing pitcher. Joe Musgrove just had a TJ. Imagine him (although Ohtani is a better pitcher than Musgrove) coming back next season with 50-50. Let that sink in.
You have NO IDEA how contract is offered. Contract money is determined not just based on on-the-field performance, but also based on off-the-field performance as well. The reason why Dodgers got to be able to offer Ohtani $700 million is two-fold: 1. Ohtani was willing defer $680 million out of $700 million for the period of 2034 to 2043 year, which brings down the value of contract to $480 million in present value. 2. Ohtani brings more than $70 million to Dodgers as additional revenue annually in a way of increased ad money, Japanese TV rights, increased merchandise revenue, increased stadium ticket revenue, e.t.c. Ohtani himself has the highest endorsement income of $65 million in 2024 while Bryce Harper $7 million as the second place. How much did Soto make on it ? He is nowhere to be seen on 10 players list. He has insignificant star power to bring additional revenue to the ball club. No matter how talented Soto may be on the field of baseball, there’s NO WAY that Soto will be offered Ohtani money, therefore. At the end of the day baseball is business. Soto’s value will be determined based on his business value.
From a business perspective, it's not even close. Ohtani is a cultural phenomenon in multiple cultures with cash and coverage pouring in from across the Pacific as well as immense popularity in the the United States while accomplishing multiple milestones that were thought impossible just a few years ago. Soto... isn't.
I think another factor that might be hard for him right now is name value, yes he’s a good player but I feel like the media doesn’t put him as a star player yet compared to Judge and Ohtani let alone sponsors they bring in so I would say if he is to get Ohtani money, he needs to be constant mvp or breaking multiple records. Maybe in the near future where he could be constant and possibly surpass Judge as a hitter but as for now I don’t think he’s worth as that much Respect your opinion though
The Dodgers could've gave Shohei a billion dollar contract and they still would be able to get that money back. He's the most marketable player in the sport and he brings a lot of eyes to the team he's playing on. Japanese companies and their ads go wherever Shohei decides to go. The only thing you get from Soto is an amazing hitter and that's pretty much it. You can make an argument he deserves Judge's contract, even though Judge is still the better player, but no one else besides Shohei is worth anything near $500 mil, let alone $700 mil.
He shouldn’t earn MORE than trout trout was a better player at every level (hitting, running, fielding) while winning 2 MVPs and having more higher finishes than Soto has when trout got his contract if trout is better than Soto with the same years he shouldn’t earn more
Umm, no. As good as Soto is, he's never won an MVP. Meanwhile, Judge will win his second MVP after this season. Are you saying Soto is worth more than Judge? If so, that's absolutely delusional.
Shohei is a one of a kind talent that makes him literally two baseball players! Soto is a generational talent but what are his chances of winning a batting title, mvp, and the Cy Young while hitting 40 home runs and stealing 40 bases...at least! Any team that would pay the same contract to Soto that Shohei earned needs to study the stats, they aren't even close!
I'm a Yankee fan but I don't think he should get 600mill+ bc 1instead the banks could build up there bullpen 2 people just thing because teams are willingly giving players (dodgers) 700mill so the Yankees should also
You know someone lives inside the baseball bubble when they claim Soto deserves Ohtani money. Step outside it and you realize Ohtani is the only global superstar in baseball, and generates exponentially more money for his team than someone like Soto. Not to mention Ohtani is just objectively more valuable on the field. Back to pitching next season, and even this year as just a DH he had more fWAR than Soto
Experts are calculating that Othani will bring the mlb 770 million dollars in revenue this year. I’m sorry but Soto is a generational player but he does not deserve othani money. Also, othani pitches.
Shohei has 3 reasons why no one is worth even half that much. Top 3 hitter, top 3 pitcher, that alone is worth like 700mil for two players, but ADD ON the Japanese viewership and that adds like 200mil worth of revenue and fans and exposure, not even close. Literally not close and I hate when people say “not even close” but this is one of the few times I’ll say it
This is a stupid video. Juan is great and a 400 mil player. But the revenue he brings in pales in comparison to ohtani. The amount of ads Japanese companies bring the dodgers is insane...and their economy is far bigger than the Dominican Republic 's. Ohtani is the better player overall and brings in way more money because of his star power. Not even close. If Juan Soto gets 700 mil it would be over 17 years.
I love Juan Soto. I am a Nats fan, and we would not have beaten Houston in 2019 without Juan's MASSIVE bat. He hit two homers that have not landed yet, and against the best pitchers in the world. However, he does not toe the rubber every five days and throw 99-100 as a starting pitcher. It's really that simple. Shohei Ohtani is TWO players in one. The Unicorn. One of a kind. Mid-$500MiL+whatever happens against the Dodgers to spice it up.
What an incredible breakdown, it was painful because he’s no longer a national but at least he got away from those losers in San Diego. God bless this man and what he’s doing for baseball.
Been waiting for someone to make this vid. That moment was legendary. Soto was on every single pitch and thats what he was saying at bat. They just werent what he was looking for. He wanted that fastball. He forced him to throw it
I only know soto is better than judge, the guy us a beast since came in to the league. And his stats in regular season and play off don change, now othanis contract is a pitcher/hitter contract we might never see that contract again , also the guy come with 30m+ fans from japon.
I remember Soto was in the audience of an episode of Desus & Mero right after the Nats championship run. They’re both Yankees fans. Soto was a Nat. I’m a Mets fan, I was sickened by the whole thing. Years later, he’s taking the Yanks to the World Series. I would love for Soto to become a Met next year but I don’t think it will happen. I think he’ll use Cohen to raise his price and remain with the Yanks or go elsewhere.
Soto is not 2 elite players in one like Shohei. He's a good hitter, sure, one of the best to play the game, but he does not deserve Shohei money. He's barely an average fielder. That dude looks like he's playing on ice sometimes in the outfield. OR even a basestealing threat.
Ohtani has much better slug. Soto has slightly higher OBP. Soto doesn't play much defense and isn't improving. Soto is slower. Soto can't pitch. Not sure how Soto gets more than the $46m AAV that Ohtani got. $42m max.
Dude, there's no amount of arguments, no amount of videos that could convince me that Soto deserves $700 Million. Shohei is on a league of his own, like it or not. Soto cannot pitch, especially not at an ace level, in addition to being a power hitter and able to play the outfield. Not only that, Shohei is not just a 2-way superstar, he's a BRAND, AN ICON! Casuals who rarely watch baseball are learning the name Shohei Ohtani! He's soon to become Major League Baseball's Michael Jordan. Not only that but he's also pulling MILLIONS of viewers from overseas. Half the population of Japan is now watching MLB games early in the morning because of him. When you think of Major League Baseball, you don't think of Juan Soto, you think of SHOHEI OHTANI and the Los Angeles Dodgers! And yes, Soto is a great player, he deserves a lot of money, just not $700 Million. And if you're willing to pay him that, then you might as well pay Shohei $1 Billion.
If anything, Sho is underpaid specially after his performance this season with literally zero mound appearance 😅 Dodgers is drowning with money from him alone.
Everyone’s gonna say this is crazy but if the Dodgers are gonna pay a guy 70 million dollars a year every year till he’s 39 which is only worth it if he pitches and hits at an elite level basically every year of his contract (already hasn’t pitched one year and after 2 Tommy John’s that’s likely gonna effect his longevity). Even if he’s perfectly healthy for the whole contract every player slows down in their mid-late 30s unless you’re Barry Bonds, Jamie Moyer, or Justin Verlander. They’ll be paying him $70 million a year to just hit when he’s closer to 40 than 35. If Shohei deserves that money Soto (who is younger and much more durable) does too. Maybe spread out over more years.
What is Soto better at than Soto. Soto has hit less home runs every year than ohtani. Batting average ohtani is better ever since 2022. Slug, steals, and generally most advanced stats. War much better than Soto.
What you don't understand bro Shohei Ohtani’s groundbreaking $700 million, 10-year contract with the Dodgers allocates $350 million for each of his pitching and batting skills. Despite deferring $680 million of his salary to be paid after retirement, Ohtani still brings immense value through endorsements. In 2024, he’s projected to earn $65 million from deals with brands like New Balance and Mitsubishi, dwarfing other players like harper, who earns just $7 million. This endorsement power justifies the Dodgers’ investment, as Ohtani not only dominates on the field but also generates massive revenue for the team.
They probably just look at Ohtani's contract and said 'Yeah, I want that too' 😅 That contract has so many levels you can literally create a movie/documentary out of it. lol
In 2018 2 players started their MLB career. 1st player career stat line as of today: 36.5 WAR/3280 AB/934 H/201 HR/.285 BA 2nd player career stat line as of today: 43.8 WAR/3119 AB/878 H/225 HR/.282 BA Pretty similar numbers but notice how the 1st player has 161 more AB than the 2nd yet the 2nd player has more WAR and home runs while being slightly behind on hits and BA. Oh yea I forgot to mention that 2nd player is a starting cy young level pitcher in Shohei Ohtani and 1st player is Juan Soto. So in conclusion, NO. Juan Soto does not deserve Shohei Ohtani money. Dont even get me started on their market value to their franchises and to the league. But it's not a knock on Soto because NO ONE in MLB deserves Shohei Ohtani money but Shohei Ohtani
I don't even know if Shohei deserves Shohei's contract... I mean, it's just insane amounts of money that all of these players are making. It's hard for someone like me to ever see why anyone needs that much money. But in any case, as a Jays fan, I hope the ownership is prepared to offer him whatever it takes! They need good players who can hit. It was painful to watch them this year, especially. They also need new management, though.
The reason is because Ohtani's contract is maybe 50% based on ability and the other 50% is how many viewers he draws in. The MLB is probably averaging the highest viewership numbers ever because of Ohtani and its only Ohtani. Japan and most of America isnt tuning in to watch every Yankees game and they have Judge and Soto. Ohtani is on a different level of marketability. Its not even close. Im not even a dodgers fan. I hate them because i like the Padres. Theyre easily our biggest rival and even im watching ever Dodgers game just to watch Ohtani.
People don't understand that Soto is already legendary and still arguably has not hit his prime. You are going to pay him because you think he is still going to be better. Ohtani arm most likely won't hold up which would put him as DH for most of his career. Soto has always been available to play.
Ohtani’s contract will never be matched by anyone ever again because only one player can be worth the price and have his contract paid off in the first year of it and he is going to bring more money into the team,city and the players country.
Remember you never get what you deserve but what you have the leverage to negotiate, and Juan Soto has a lot of leverage to command a crazy contract akin to Ohtani.
Finally, a sane youtuber speaks facts 👏👏👏. Yes, I 100% agree. In fact, we should pay EVERY player one billion dollars. Even the ones that are not free agents. That's right. Uno billiano. I said it. I said it cuz I ain't afraid of no owner. Any less and it wouldn't be fair, cuz, you know, they got expenses and sheet.
Bro I am a FULL blown Soto fan. I'm a Yankee and I am Dominican so I support him to and through, but there is no way he deserves Shoei money.. Soto is not a good fielder, not a good base runner, and bad at stealing. PLUS shoei pitches at a very high level, which Soto also doesn't do... Soto should get something like 515M at 13-14 years which would put him around 40M a year.. More than enough, more than fair
Can you imagine how many times Pedro Martinez would have hit him if they played at the same time? Verlander was telling Soto not to do those things, but Pedro wouldn't have said a word. He'd just nod back at Soto put one on his ribs
Ohtani is a once-in-a-lifetime player, meaning he deserves a once-in-a-lifetime contract. I don't think any other player deserves that kind of contract. It's just dumb if you were to hand anyone who's a great hitter but not a pitcher an Ohtani contract.
I think he deserves Shohei money too; aside from his pure talent, and mental strength, he is still so young! He will be in his prime for like another 6 years! Yes he does not pitch, still... The first player since Shohei to get paid $700 mil should be Juan Soto.
If Ohtani was solely a position player like Soto, I’d say yes, OF COURSE… but the fact that Ohtani pitches too, and well, I should add, is why he deserves way more money than Soto. He’s automatically twice as valuable since he can do both, as long as it doesn’t affect him health-wise, all the better!
He clearly doesn’t deserve the same contract as arguably the greatest, most one of a kind player in history. Thats ridiculous. You seem like you barely know ball.
he might not get the same contract, but this guy is an inner circle hall of famer who is only 25 and will be locked up for 12+ years. the contract will be huge
@@javi994 His tallent at plate discipline will carry him to a 20+ year career. Ohtani is a greater risk of decline over time, although he just won an MVP while injured. And Ohtani brings in tons of money from Japan, Soto has a similarly large following among Latin youths, although he's just another guy compared to what Ohtani is bringing.
I'm a Lifetime Yankees fan and the way I see it if Soto produces what Reggie Jackson produce back in the 77-78 Series then we can talk Max Contract $$$$💵💰💵
He should be the first $1 Billion player. We're about to go on a late 90's run again. Yankees will have 30 WS championships by 2030. Pay him and a dynasty rises once again
Soto has already won a world series, and got the Yanks over the hump and into the world series. Could possibly help the Yanks beat the Dodgers. Soto is a proven playoff performer.
j.soto bats ahead of a.judge. only 25 but 6 grueling years under his belt, soto is another a.rendon or hamilton in the making. after signing that mega deal first thing he'll do is go on the injured list,lol. players in 2024 throw harder, run faster, hit harder, and more vulnerable to season ending injuries. ohtani other hand has proven very durable
I would love to see either New York team offered that kind of contract with possibly no defferred money. Good if that contract worth for them but also the possibility it will shackle their payroll 😌
You guys are trippin… Soto does not deserve 700 million . Soto is one man and you’re paying for him to hit. As opposed to Ohtani where he hits and pitches basically paying for 2 players in one . People giving Soto too much credit.
