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Why Kino der Toten Is So Iconic 

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Kino der Toten is the map most synonymous with Treyarch's Call of Duty Zombies; it's the first map many people played, and the first map many people would associate with the mode as a whole. Instead of experimenting with something totally new, this map took everything that came before and perfected it so that Kino was a simple distillation of the formula as it existed back then.
"A Zombies Retrospective" is a series in which I play through each Call of Duty Treyarch Zombies map chronologically, and analyze its place in the series.
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@_Kiki_29
@_Kiki_29 Год назад
"Bro you have more points you open the first door" Simpler times
@jworsley8358
@jworsley8358 Год назад
I ALWAYS have to open every heckin door in the map because people play multiplayer to do nothing
@morgandawson9450
@morgandawson9450 Год назад
Nah bro you open it so I can get the box
@jworsley8358
@jworsley8358 Год назад
@@morgandawson9450 but you have like 2,000 points the door only only costs 750 points
@foxtrotnine2504
@foxtrotnine2504 Год назад
Yeah now it’s just some shmuck popping a shopping free and opening up the map on round 2
@changretta3191
@changretta3191 Месяц назад
the first player opens the door, because there are 7 zombies in round 1 and he kills 4 zombies so he gets more money
@IosLocarth
@IosLocarth Год назад
One thing that I genuinely miss from Black ops 1 zombies was how absolutely wild Pack-a-Punch was. You had weapons getting absurd effects and attachments and it was honestly just kind of fun to pack a punch weapons that would normally be garbage because of what they might do. Like having the rocket launcher go from just being a pretty crappy weapon to having a 10 shot magazine didn't exactly fix it but it was fun to use
@limitbreak2966
@limitbreak2966 Год назад
same man, I miss that shit. These days it’s boring as fuck and the upgrade is just: it red now
@Impurity41
@Impurity41 Год назад
I laughed my ass off when the shitty g11 went from 3 round burst to highest fire rate fully automatic weapon in zombies. An absolute peashooter but one hell of a pointmaker.
@ruffr4bb1t
@ruffr4bb1t Год назад
Was one of the things you just almost expected a brand new weapon from the Pack, always fun the multi-level packing now doesn’t feel right
@PANCHOSWAY
@PANCHOSWAY Год назад
Or even a regular add pistol that starts shooting granades
@zombies4evadude24
@zombies4evadude24 Год назад
Same. Cod devs had so much fun goofing around with stuff like this back in the day. Now it seems they can’t ever catch a break… :(
@zellbaby38
@zellbaby38 Год назад
Not to mention Kino had the absolute most godly banger soundtrack in zombies history to this day!
@zombies4evadude24
@zombies4evadude24 Год назад
True
@TheDeadmandillon
@TheDeadmandillon Год назад
I FUCKING LOVE 115!!!🤌
@Kahridk
@Kahridk Год назад
@@TheDeadmandillon you liked 115 so much that you turned italian
@stanleylutherson17
@stanleylutherson17 10 месяцев назад
With 115 thumb-ups on this comment I shall omit pressing it this time.
@zellbaby38
@zellbaby38 9 месяцев назад
@@stanleylutherson17 you are a true soldier 🫡🫡 I know the decision was difficult
@presidentjosh8252
@presidentjosh8252 Год назад
Yet another video on your small channel that will blow up in like, a month. This is such good content, and I will watch every episode of this series and comment on all of em. I'm glad to be an OG on this future giant.
@henrydinglenut4367
@henrydinglenut4367 Год назад
Same
@wmdwaldo2998
@wmdwaldo2998 Год назад
100% agree
@GrimpaGrim
@GrimpaGrim Год назад
Here bc it’s blowing up 😂
@chickenmangaming7508
@chickenmangaming7508 Год назад
same
@Verno-wv2oe
@Verno-wv2oe Год назад
Facts
@cynicalgold9992
@cynicalgold9992 Год назад
kino has always, and probably will always be my favorite zombies map. i have simple tastes, what can i say
@davidsamarabowling8852
@davidsamarabowling8852 Год назад
i kinda like shi no numa now
@Jetstreamsamdidnothingwrong
While Mob of the dead and shadows of evil are some of my favorites it's kind of sad we don't get simple maps anymore I mean the last original ones were the tranzit survival maps and if you don't count that it was Ascension or Shangri-La
@cheeseburger7788
@cheeseburger7788 Год назад
agreed, that’s why i like some bo4 maps to an extent like IX and Classified - the bo4 system might not be great but those maps made a return to formula of just relaxing and killing zombies instead of 3000 quests
@salmon_wine
@salmon_wine Год назад
I think you could argue Buried as being the last survival map, because of Zalinski's whole style. However, if you dont count treyarch exclusively, Groesten Haus is actually really fun in WWII zombies. Everything else has been a remake or remaster
@jeovs123
@jeovs123 Год назад
@@cheeseburger7788 nobody likes bo4 zombies
@krustyman5151
@krustyman5151 Год назад
@@jeovs123 speak for yourself lmao
@Steven_Bo1
@Steven_Bo1 Год назад
That’s why zombie chronicles was the best selling dlc of all time
@MiamiMarkYT
@MiamiMarkYT Год назад
Imo it’s a shame we don’t get more kino style maps. Simple, accessible, and polished. More time than not, I want to play zombies with my feet kicked back and some beer and pizza within arms reach. Sure the complicated Easter Eggs are rewarding, but they’re also a pain in the butt. 9/10 times I play, I don’t want to be looking up steps on my phone, pausing the game every few minutes, and stalling out rounds while I carry out fetch quests. I just want to play the game. And many modern maps feel like they’re designed just to facilitate the quest instead of being enjoyable to play casually. Every zombies game should have at least two of these fairly straightforward and laidback maps, because most of the people that play zombies just want to shoot zombies.
@kraus5576
@kraus5576 11 месяцев назад
I dunno, I think Buried falls into that category, and I think it executes that concept perfectly.
@livebyfaith4647
@livebyfaith4647 8 месяцев назад
you named one single map post BO1 that fits what this guy is saying. you just proved his point@@kraus5576
@triarii217
@triarii217 Год назад
Everybody talking about M14 vs Olympia when the real deal is the MP40
@weewoo1729
@weewoo1729 Год назад
every time they find all three meteor pieces I power up
@seriomarkj
@seriomarkj Год назад
Nothing like chucking grenades from the projector room
@TheDeadmandillon
@TheDeadmandillon Год назад
Not only that, it had a damn good hidden soundtrack too if you found all three meteorite pieces throughout the map.
@Blessed_V0id
@Blessed_V0id Год назад
I grew up on this game. As a young adult now, I still have black ops one. This map is not forgotten
@LouCooper
@LouCooper Год назад
One thing not mentioned is this for the most part was the first game to do a complete arsenal switch in the mystery box. Gone was WW2 weapons, in was highly detailed (for the time) Cold War weapons. Still distinctly remember rocking either Mustang and Sally, or playing team medic with the upgraded crossbow and/or ballistic knife.
@TheSkatersoldier
@TheSkatersoldier Год назад
Firesale, the powerup that kills you because you think you can ignore the zombies in order to get one more spin
@theykilledkennyagain423
@theykilledkennyagain423 Год назад
LOL
@Cheldeo
@Cheldeo Год назад
Kino is the only reason I still play cod games today, specifically cod zombies, playing it on bo3 last year after years of not playing it just didn't feel the same as playing it on the og bo1, I don't have a last gen console with the game so I just got it on pc this year, brought back some good memories
@fullnelson4986
@fullnelson4986 Год назад
Yea I wish they stayed faithful to the og kino when they were remastering it. I fken hate the new kino
@maxrobinson9553
@maxrobinson9553 Год назад
This was the last map with 'nazi' zombies
@WayToGoChamp
@WayToGoChamp 29 дней назад
You failed to mention the most obvious inconvenience of the nova crawlers, THE GAS CLOUDS 😂
@TheBlaaaaaaahhh
@TheBlaaaaaaahhh Год назад
I graduated college playing this map. It was my favorite by how perfect the formula just worked. Survive, make it to the theater, pack a punch. So easy!
@sithknight7740
@sithknight7740 Год назад
I wonder how Kino would've looked in WaW's grittier engine? I saw some concept art for it and I imagine it would've looked amazing. The footage of Downfall from WaW made it finally click in my head, "Oh right, campaign mission/mult map turned into zombies"
@IanTheGreatYT
@IanTheGreatYT Год назад
Top tier content right here, gave me a nice rush of nostalgia, I salute you good sir 👍
@byronrudolph3139
@byronrudolph3139 Год назад
My questions are, would kino be as iconic if it were released on WAW? Would BO1 be as big if five was the only map at launch?
@Wolf-zk8ey
@Wolf-zk8ey Год назад
I would say no. Like he said the Black Ops 1 release and engine were a big part of the influx of players that played Kino. It had the advantage of riding a brand new release and not a game at the end of its life cycle.
@Mr.Swiss.Passport
@Mr.Swiss.Passport Год назад
@@Wolf-zk8ey Imagine Kino with WaW guns
@salmon_wine
@salmon_wine Год назад
@@Mr.Swiss.Passport would kinda be kickass. Then again, it's like saying "Imagine if Kino's Easter egg was finished" Side note, anyone else think the bathroom barrier on Kino would've had to do with the egg? The characters all have voice lines for walking up to it. Maybe you got something from the knocking chest and had to take it there? Or maybe you had to learn, then say a secret phrase- interacting with the "Manhattan Down" letters to tell the thing in the box before it gave you a key or something
@nick-uq3yw
@nick-uq3yw Год назад
@@Wolf-zk8ey It wouldnt make a significant differece by a long shot. At that era from cod4-mw3, call of Duty was all about the multiplayer
@Steven_Bo1
@Steven_Bo1 Год назад
I think yes. Five would’ve had the thunder gun which would’ve made it alot more popular of a map
@axsprime
@axsprime Год назад
Ah back when I was 16, not a fan of CoD (still not all that much), going to parties and doing shit I shouldn't be doing with everyone grouped around a TV taking drinks to Zombies. Good times...
@ruffr4bb1t
@ruffr4bb1t Год назад
To this day I still desire that feeling of fear and adrenaline from the first few times I played that map being my first foray into the zombies mode. Moon was pretty good at replicating it tbh but something is special about Kino in my heart
@jonathanandrewross
@jonathanandrewross Год назад
Weren't the nova crawlers pigs?
@whitecliffgames
@whitecliffgames Год назад
That’s actually a good point; on this map you have the monkeys in canisters so since it was the crawlers’ first appearance the implication was that’s what they were. But then of course they appeared in Five as well, and that map had the pigs in the lab, as well as human experiments. Then in Classified there was some intel that hinted they were trying to alter pig DNA and some people think that that’s the experiment that became crawlers. There’s no clear answer, no one’s really sure, there were a lot of crazy experiments going on around the world!
@jonathanandrewross
@jonathanandrewross Год назад
@@whitecliffgames Oh interesting, I didn't realise it was still unknown. I guess they're creepier that way. Also I'm loving these videos and thanks for answering!
@jasonbrodbeck
@jasonbrodbeck Год назад
@@whitecliffgames Fun fact there are unused nova crawler models in the wolrd at war files
@luxlevia4687
@luxlevia4687 Месяц назад
the music. still to today, my absolute favorite song of all time. it also made me a fan of metal. kino had an impact in my real life
@MazeMaker4Life
@MazeMaker4Life Год назад
Shout out M14 gang! Olympia gang be damned. 😂
@Dinosaurman34
@Dinosaurman34 Год назад
I love Kino and it has my favourite zombies song Easter egg
@lukeflamand5511
@lukeflamand5511 Год назад
I prefer the thunder gun to the WW, but just a tiny correction, it isn't infinite! At the high rounds, (25+) it will kill most but just blow some away, and they'll get back up. Like I said I prefer the TG, because Its still pushing them away from the player, which is the point lol, but you also don't need to worry about splash damage. Glad I found your channel dude, subbed after the second vid I saw. Youre gonna blow up any minute now! :)
@oisinkelly4604
@oisinkelly4604 3 месяца назад
It is infinite and also high rounds is not 25+
@misfortunecookie
@misfortunecookie Год назад
This is good stuff well done and well said my friend
@bent_forek696
@bent_forek696 Год назад
Wow you had like 200 subs last week and now you have over 2000 keep up the good work dude
@thomasblasquez6495
@thomasblasquez6495 Год назад
This brings back so many memories of staying up all night playing BO1 with my friends in middle school. Multiplayer is where we settled things, but Zombies was the real game for us. Love this series, I never truly appreciated the WaW Zombies mode and how integral it was to future games' success. Black Ops 1 is still my favorite, though :P
@isaivelasquez4906
@isaivelasquez4906 Год назад
I’ve only watched up to this point but hopefully you mention the trailers. I remember watching new dlc trailers just for the zombies content. The trailers generated so much hype back in the day.
@clonesolar
@clonesolar Год назад
I think kino told the entire zombies story but we never figured it out.
@TomFoolery870
@TomFoolery870 Год назад
Alot of people give kino shit for not innovating, but I would say kino innovates just as much as any of the maps before it, two new trap variants, a new wonder weapon, the nova crawlers, fire sale, and even small things some people might not notice like the box spawning randomly on the map (all maps before had a set first box location).
@blessedxxiii5583
@blessedxxiii5583 Год назад
nice💯 those people are ungrateful thats for sure
@oisinkelly4604
@oisinkelly4604 3 месяца назад
That’s just not true as all the waw maps have shaped the game as it is today and all of kinos “innovations” were either from five or meant to be on five originally also the fire trap is not really that innovative
@itsme924
@itsme924 Год назад
Don’t forget to mention the songs!
@stevebailey8890
@stevebailey8890 Год назад
“Why kino der toten was so iconic“ Because it was good. 😨
@LordOfTheEyebots
@LordOfTheEyebots Год назад
I still remember when I PaP'd my first gun... it was the mp40 on this map, and I lost it in the pap because I did it too late lmao
@AsianDudesChan
@AsianDudesChan Год назад
Fire video spot on
@mandox100pre3
@mandox100pre3 Год назад
I miss those nights, playing for hours doing Easter eggs over and over again 😢
@anyonmuslionking
@anyonmuslionking Год назад
Great Information.
@adrien3697
@adrien3697 Год назад
I still have 115 on my playlist to this day
@Dontreadthis0
@Dontreadthis0 Год назад
still remember my first high round on kino of 36.
@PokeBurnPlease
@PokeBurnPlease 10 месяцев назад
It was the first Zombies map ever released for us Germans thats why its iconic for me.
@TheOneGhost-xy7je
@TheOneGhost-xy7je Год назад
2:20 Never PaPd M14, Paped Olympia, but honestly I'm still on the 1911 side. Until like round 8, then I'll switch it.
@Arteaga4K
@Arteaga4K Год назад
Reason: BO1 came out during CODs peak in popularity and that shit was free lol
@ryukobestwaifu3319
@ryukobestwaifu3319 Год назад
If 115 was playing no one could go down it’s literally a crime
@Mr.Swiss.Passport
@Mr.Swiss.Passport Год назад
Imagine Kino der Toten with WaW Guns
@durpy8184
@durpy8184 Год назад
I still wonder what kino wouldve been like if it had actually been released on WAW
@jamesgolightly5320
@jamesgolightly5320 Год назад
It’s simply because of the date it was released. Cod was at its height of popularity and it was the launch map.
@papadocholidae5381
@papadocholidae5381 Месяц назад
Yall ever PaP Ballistic Knives. I never went down so fast 💀
@arken2583
@arken2583 Год назад
This was the first zombies map I ever played. I think I was like 9 or something, so I was understandably terrified out of my mind. I also have since grown to despise nova crawlers, for obvious reasons.
@ryannite3800
@ryannite3800 Год назад
I miss this 😭
@Adam_P_Wood
@Adam_P_Wood Год назад
It’s iconic because of a burst of popularity…peoples first map same with shadows.
@hashtag_thisguy
@hashtag_thisguy Год назад
I wonder how many laps I've done of KDT
@gunkcancerr
@gunkcancerr Год назад
banger video, holy mama 🤝
@blksheepramirez
@blksheepramirez Год назад
Did you know that the wall outside of the theater is actually The Berlin Wall?
@barrymccartan2181
@barrymccartan2181 Год назад
What a map, has to be the best
@Lin_Eileen
@Lin_Eileen Год назад
use of word memetic = instant subscribe ✌
@Steven_Bo1
@Steven_Bo1 Год назад
Training in the alley at 2:35 was so nostalgic. That’s where I would train back in the day because I thought only noobs train on the stage 😂 it actually was pretty decent, I would make it to atleast 50 which for my skill level back then wasn’t bad
@TommyTwoGuns24
@TommyTwoGuns24 Год назад
I love this fuckin map
@blessedxxiii5583
@blessedxxiii5583 Год назад
when i was a kid the zombies scared the s*** outta me lol😂😂
@Johnmarstonliveson
@Johnmarstonliveson Год назад
I make so many jokes and comments on this map in my day to day life this map is the greatest for me it’s literally engraved in my brain
@Spnozilla
@Spnozilla Год назад
Can we take a second to marvel at the musical Easter egg in Kino? It’s by far the most iconic song for call of duty zombies with the name literally being “115”
@kiptaylor3567
@kiptaylor3567 Год назад
"M14 v Olympia" ... *Scoffs* more like MP40 or restart ;)
@TheBoyz305
@TheBoyz305 Год назад
So we’ll said and done
@itsalexpierce
@itsalexpierce Месяц назад
115K views.... Perfectly balanced, as all things should be.
@mrg3241
@mrg3241 10 месяцев назад
When you mentioned "M14 vs. Olympia", the correct answer is neither.
@laatmaasquanariin3945
@laatmaasquanariin3945 Год назад
Anytime I'm on kino, it's impossible to not grab the rocks. Like...I'm not even trying got an Easter egg maybe, but it's wrong not to take them
@austintodd735
@austintodd735 Год назад
Imagine if kino dropped in cod WAW with the wunderwaffe 🤤🤤🤤🤤
@toasteronlegs1594
@toasteronlegs1594 Год назад
Is it just me but I always entered the stage from that left door
@GorVala
@GorVala Год назад
M14 long range vs Olympia close range.. but I just love that Ding of clip 😍 USA made.
@IVIUT3D
@IVIUT3D Год назад
kino still my #1 no lie. der reise was best on WoW but Kino stands out to me forever
@booba2141
@booba2141 Год назад
I think the thunder gun might actually have a damage cap? Like maybe they start getting back up after a high enough round. Or is this like a Mandela effect.
@doomguyfaz3recon797
@doomguyfaz3recon797 Год назад
4:50 pigs
@Steven_Bo1
@Steven_Bo1 Год назад
Black ops 1 still to this day is the best selling call of duty game followed by mw3
@seahorsesebastiano2506
@seahorsesebastiano2506 Год назад
I can’t tell if you’re from MN, Western PA or CA.
@TrickyThe0ne
@TrickyThe0ne Месяц назад
The thing that ruins this map for me are the crawlers. I also dont like the Thundergun as much as the DG-2.
@scarletcrusader5431
@scarletcrusader5431 Год назад
Pretty sure the TG didn't do infinite damage. If it did then it wouldn't just knock zombies over in the later rounds, it'd kill them all outright
@jedininja3016
@jedininja3016 Год назад
It is infinite damage but I'm pretty sure it's only at a certain range. If the zombies are a bit further back and away from you the Thunder Gun will just blow them over on later rounds.
@redtra236
@redtra236 Год назад
Yeah it has damage dropoff I think its instant kill no matter what at point blank
@zombies4evadude24
@zombies4evadude24 Год назад
5:29 Ummm… not true. Remember Nacht’s intro cutscene?
@uchttruth2825
@uchttruth2825 Год назад
I have 22 rounds
@FreePieftw
@FreePieftw Год назад
this map was kino
@desinfected
@desinfected Год назад
M1911 >>>>>> M14 > Olympia
@joshuabrown4775
@joshuabrown4775 Год назад
Just gonna drop a comment on every one of these as I watch for the algorithm. Criminal that the view count is so low.
@digital_bf
@digital_bf Год назад
Bitch bois dont buy the door on the left, best rain route
@digital_bf
@digital_bf Год назад
Also the person with the most most opens the more expensive door
@tart8228
@tart8228 Год назад
no stupid Easter eggs...no gobble gum...no nonsense. best map besides Der Riese
@gamermanzeake
@gamermanzeake Год назад
Though I do agree that having a digestible map is a good thing, especially for onboarding folks. I personally don't at all prefer Kino, as it is the weakest offering in BO1, because it does nothing new and interesting. The Nova 6 crawlers and the fire sale nothwithstanding, because those are done to death in other maps of this game. At the time I loved the map, as it alongside WaW helped me get into the mode. But as Shadows is beloved in hindsight, Kino is not so much in my opinion due to the lack of anything worthwhile on the map. I still play and enjoy it from time to time as I do most other maps, but it is by far my least favorite on BO1. I don't think iconic saves it either. That and nostalgia are poor reasons to highly rate a map or game. It must stand up to objective fact and reasoning. Even Five has things to offer that Kino can't match; death machine, Nova 6 crawlers being avoidable totally, bonfire sale, an interesting boss round that isn't the infinitely rehashed dog round, a boss that gives you options, buildable traps, difficulty, and even a tactical wonder weapon that doesn't just hold your hand. Again, I'm not saying the map is bad, just objectively the worst offering on BO1. That's not saying much though. The on disc experience should be lesser than the build up of DLC, otherwise why buy the DLC? There should be bonuses and additions. Kino is so vanilla it might as well be the poster child for that flavor in COD zombies. Nothing wrong with that, but nothing outstanding about it either.
@Frosty_tha_Snowman
@Frosty_tha_Snowman Месяц назад
I got here right at 115k views... nice.
@xboxisbetta
@xboxisbetta Месяц назад
I never liked this map. It felt so vanilla after playing world at war zombies from map pack to map pack.
@nerdodragonnerdpl4167
@nerdodragonnerdpl4167 8 месяцев назад
Didn't thundergun don't gets ammo when you pick max voodka? Also map is such iconic cause nazi horror vibes mixed with daylight and 60s...trully unique combination:)
@changenoways9555
@changenoways9555 Год назад
Black ops 1 was terrible. They released it off of the hype of MW2. MW2 was gamechanging. We thought BO1 would be the same. But they fucked up the sniping with the sway on the L11. Man I swear itd be crazy if that was the name on the sniper. I havent played multiplayer in years. The maps were good. The snow map was good, nuketown was good. But they fked up sniping man. Zombies was the saving grace. BO1 was decent. On the ranking list it still falls below COD4 and MW2
@zainyardo1136
@zainyardo1136 Год назад
I respectfully disagree with this god awful take
@alwilliamsubs2453
@alwilliamsubs2453 Год назад
very good video 49th comment
@nattybohman
@nattybohman Год назад
M14 > Olympia
@zainyardo1136
@zainyardo1136 Год назад
FAXXXX
@zainyardo1136
@zainyardo1136 Год назад
Call me crazy but even in bo1 multiplayer I still use that gun
@denden51
@denden51 4 месяца назад
inglous basters cod got it from
@fufu1405
@fufu1405 11 месяцев назад
It's iconic because it shipped with the game and was bigger than all the maps before it. I like the map but it's objectively overrated.
@Suckit626
@Suckit626 Год назад
I can't figure out how it's so iconic because to be truthful, it kinda sucks
@zainyardo1136
@zainyardo1136 Год назад
I’d like to hear how, genuinely.
@OldManEsteban
@OldManEsteban Год назад
lol get subscribed
@MrJabez89
@MrJabez89 Год назад
Kino is by far the easiest zombie map
@thatmemeguy2520
@thatmemeguy2520 11 месяцев назад
its good for nostalgia but compared to other maps its garbage
@xgenalvarez
@xgenalvarez Год назад
Why kino der toten so boring
@DonDadda45
@DonDadda45 Год назад
Makes a whole video about an iconic map and doesn't even bother to look up the pronounciation of the name.. bruh
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