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@@medikos nobody ever talks about diamantidis . Get over it. A good but overrated defender who was always behind kill bill. Bye bye now .. Luca and giannis love spanoulis
@@medikos φίλε ο Μήτσος ήταν τεράστια παιχτάρα αλλά δεν τον σέβεσαι όπως του αρμόζει με το να τον αναφέρεις σε αυτό το βίντεο που δικαίως εξυμνεί τον ανυπέρβλητο kill bill.
@@medikos ο παίχτης που στα καλύτερά του φεύγει από την κορυφαία ομάδα στην ιστορία της euroleague ύστερα από κατάκτηση του triple crown 👑, αφήνει τα σίγουρα και τα στρωμένα, πηγαίνει στο αντίπαλο δέος που δεν πατάει καλά, ενώ τον παρακαλάει όλη η Ευρώπη, γνωρίζοντας την έχθρα που θα εισπράξει, και όλα αυτά τα κάνει πιστεύοντας ότι μπορεί να πάρει στις πλάτες του όλα τα βάρη, να ηγηθεί και να μεγαλώσει την ομάδα του κερδίζοντας όλους τους στόχους, με άγουρα παιδάκια και άγνωστους παίχτες, αυτός ο παίχτης είναι ανυπέρβλητος.
@@Metron_Ariston ποιος εφυγε μετα την κατακτηση του τριπλ κραουν; Δεν επαιζε ο Σπανουλης το 2010 στον παο; Ποιους ολους τους στοχους πετυχε με τον οσφπ; Κατι 3-0 σκουπισματα θυμαμαι εγω το 2013
@@lefterisxanthis3822 He was pretty good, but a little undersized and not that athletic. A more athletic shooter who would be better in defense would compliment them more.
@@OoSysteM0fADownoO Zisis played well above his level for the national team.He took the minutes he could and always gave 101%.Club Zisis was a different story.
Not a big fan of this video, you just talked about his key career moments, not exactly why Spanoulis is idol to many players. Havent even talked about his game beside clutchness. Yes, he is one of the most clutch players all the time, but he had one of the best handles in Europe, he was the best at splitting double team and therefor he was almost impossible to trap or be shut down in the pick and roll. A lot of Lithuanians idolized Jasikevicius therefor we got generation of guards who never learned how to dribble the ball, cause lets be real, Saras had no handle. People needed to watch Spanoulis tape, a guy who had ability to got to his places, any place on the court, at any time, with zero athleticism. Thats Luka, and its no surprise he learned it from Spanoulis. Spanoulis never had godly stats like some would think, I mean his stats were all Euroleague material, but the man wasn't there to just fill the stat sheet, he was there to lead his team when moments got tough. He was the only player in Euroleague, where you could build a contender just by having him. Those Olympiakos teams were never favorites, but they got Spanoulis, surrounded him with defensive players and it was enough, cause Spanoulis probably never had a bad moment in the clutch, he was guarantee. Man won Euroleague with Acie Law as second ball handler for god sake. When you look at his tape, its easy to dismiss him, his jump shooting mechanics were ugly, he was purely below the rim guy and didnt have ideal physical tools. But his game just worked. Would he have worked in the NBA, of course, if you think Spanoulis couldn't figure out NBA, you are lying to yourself. He probably never was star material, but his game just work despite not looking great. I remember Olympiakos - CSKA final, where Teodosic was so bad on defense, he got benched, he was unplayble, just a total liability at the end of the game, where Spanoulis just came there and made all the buckets in the cluch as usual. And on that day you could tell the difference between superstar Teodosic and Superstar Spanoulis. Teodosic had better stats, flashier game, better looking shot, nice looking assists, but when it gets tough, Spanoulis was always better, he was born for those moments.
@@jkstylz Saras was great, but it was his mind that made him great, not necessarily a skill that you can imitate. You cant imitate Saras well, but we got generations of kids learning flashy passing thinking that will make them next Saras, and therefor we got players like CIzauskas who literally cant dribble the ball pass anyone. Spanoulis had more imitatable skill cap, i think hes a better idol for that reason. Of course just like you cant learn Saras' IQ, you will not grow Spanoulis' balls and precision in the clutch, but you can learn that handle, that split etc.
@@jkstylz saras was obviously good , but not spanoulis level of good. Can you ever think Saras leading a bunch of bangers/nobodies to a euroleague title? No. But he could be a key piece (like he was) to superteams (maccabi, panathinaikos, barcelona). Also a totally different character than spanoulis, Saras was super vocal and aggressive in his manerisms, spanoulis was dead eyed always, calm and collected rarely whining or talking a lot during a game.
My brother, this is a complete summary of what V-Span was all about. It was not about anything other than Winning and when a Victory was on the line the guy showed up literally EVERY FUCKING TIME.
What you miss is that Olympiacos team entering 2011-2012 season was regarded the worst team in Euroleague. Olympiacos suffered with economical problems and all major stars left (except Spanoulis), only being replaced by rookies... BUT under Vassilis Spanoulis' leadership the team won back-to-back Euroleague titles... Also Spanoulis, left Euroleague being at the same time All time Top Scorer, All time Assist Leader and All time PIR (Points Index Rating) Leader.
Most players of Olympiacos that season ended up becoming top players in the future. Printezis, Sloukas, Papanikolaou, Pero Antic, Kyle Hines. All under the leadership of the legendary Serb Dusan Ivkovic.
people forget that, you had to be there to witness greatness, what a season, what a life, what a player, what a TEAM and what a final shot by Saint George Printezis the one and only capitano
In 2006 we where in Greece on vacation and dad asked if we wanted to watch a basketball game. We agreed and saw our first basketball game. This game where Greece beat USA was the first basketball game I ever saw in person/tv and it was amazing. Fell in love with basketball and was following it ever since.
Bodiroga, Saras Diamantidis Spanoulis are the best Europeans for the last 20+ years, all of them playing in the peak of their careers in PANATHINAIKOS ps Navaro didnt win anything without the two of them in Barca
Although I'm grateful he came back to Greece and gave the people so many great memories, I think Greg Popovich would be the perfect coach for him in the NBA. His style would fit perfectly with the spurs back then
So... I'm genuinely asking because I'm not that informed with his game. Why do you think Pop would have been perfect? I know the Spurs brought in lot of international players who had success, and I really think he would have been given the chance, but from the video it seemed like he was a shoot first player. While that Spurs team was all about fundamentals and making the right passes. He wouldn't exactly have been able to get many shots up with that team. Was he known as a really good passer, a good spot up shooter, or do you think his talent was so great Pop would have let him take away shots From Parker, Ginobili, and Duncan? Basically I'm just curious, because that's a great Spurs team, what would you envision his role being on the team?
@@odonnellcaleb Keep in mind, when a player enters a team, he gets coached into adopting to a system. Spanoulis is very dangerous in pick and roll situations which fits well with the spurs slow-pace offense. Yes, his game would need to adapt a bit but the key here is that he would be given a chance by Pop. As for his ceiling...it's hard to tell because we cant know with things like injuries, team chemistry and many others being factors but I do believe he would be at least a very reliable option of the bench
@@odonnellcaleb Spanoulis along with being the no1 scorer in Euroleague history....he is also ranked no1 in Assists in Euroleague history. He made everyone around him better. He was an incredible passer as well as scorer. He had the full package on offense.
@@wonderlandian8465 Wow, he was a great passer too? It's too bad he didn't stay then. From what you're saying then I actually think the Mavs would have been a great spot for him. Was it the same summer they lost Nash? He probably could have shined with Dirk too.
He was cold blooded. He never celebrated during a match, he was always waiting to finish the match to celebrate. Also, during a match you couldnt inderstand if he is happy, sad or frustrated! Also he was the last guy who will leave the training, even in his last year! Just amazing
I surely think he would've been good in the NBA. If he just gave the Spurs a chance, he would've thrived in that team. The Spurs have been known to utilize Euro players very well and win not just games, but rings.
I hace the same feeling. Popovich know how to work with international players. I think if he stayed he would have had a similar career to Goran Dragic.
No he wouldn't. He did not get special treatment there and it showed. He was not all that great in europe either, most of the hype around him came from the win vs Team USA in 2006 and him choosing to play in europe over USA and the greek fans being overjoyed to have him back. His average points were around 11 in league play, around 13 in euroleague and he also only had low assists and his assist to turnover ratio was also not great. He had three seasons at Panathinaikos right after the Houston year where he shot the three very well at over 40% but after that he fell back into a hole and shot roughly around 30% threes except for one season where he had 37%. If you are a massive Spanoulis stan, you are because of pride and thats okay, but you probably already know he wasn't all that when you think about it realistically.
Agreed, Euroleague just doesn't feel the same anymore, there aren't many "staple" players left, everyone either is quick to jump on the NBA or changes teams every 2-3 years.
If you're european you must idolize Spanoulis. If you dont understand why just put his highlights, byt that IS just a 2% of his talent. Im spanish and my ídols are Navarro, Gasol, Nowitzki, Petrovic and Spanoulis. I Dont need more in my Life.
I am European. Why must i idolize somebody just because this person is from the same continent or the same country ? I m sorry, but that is the dumbest concept i ve heard in a long time. If i want to idolize somebody from Asia or Afrika or from the moon, then i will do that
Funny thing I noticed: At 2:15 there is a banner in the back that reads "Μαζί σας Σεπόλια" (translation: "Sepolia is with you") which is the neighbourhood where Giannis grew up - that place loves basketball.
I mean so many neighborhoods in Athens and so many towns/cities in Greece have banners in Olympiacos (and Panathinaikos of course) games it's not weird at all.
Very nice video. Keep up the good work. Here in Greece Spanoulis is a living legend and considered to be the top Greek Player in the last 20 years. Before him was Gkalis, who had a similar career with Spanoulis, and could have dominated the Nba as well. Very happy to see my boy Giannis and Luka give respect to one of the greats of European Basketball.
@@John_Bourdakos Is not everything about scoring with Spanoulis anidee! And nothing is debatable. Look,Spanoulis is number 1 scorer and assist man in Euroleague and number 1 scorer and assist man in Greek League. Needs to say anything more? Who will think that will remember Europe? The first in both scoring and assists of course! Entaksei eimaste? Entaksei eimaste! Που μπαίνετε στο βίντεο του Σπανούλη,να κάνετε τους πονηρούς...
Given the chance he could've at least become a contender for the 6th man award. Talented enough, leading quailities, great scorer and passer but most importantly CRAZY work ethic. first guy to enter the gym last guy to leave. But like many great players he had a huge ego, he was treated like a 18 year old high school draftee while he was an established star in Europe, his ego couldnt take being a bench warmer and work his way up to his minutes and role again. I mean you see nba stars getting sad and having their performance decrease just by switching from a 1st option to 2nd or 3rd. Imagine going from 1st option to ... 10th guy in the rotation with the 2nd or 3rd stringers.
@@thodorisk4447 Eπαιζε ευρωπη ο Σπανουλης στην ηλικια του Μανιον?Στο Μαρουσι ητανε. Οταν πηγε στο NBA εκανε παρομοια καριερα με του Μανιον(στα 19 του) ενω ηταν 24-25 . Με την εθνικη ιταλιας εκανε εξαιρετικες εμφανισεις ο στους ολυμπιακους . Νομιζω στην ηλικια που ειναι ο Μανιον(οχι οτι ειμαι φαν του) εχει κανει πολυ περισσοτερα αποτι ο Σπανουλης στα 21 του.
For him not playing a lot at the Rockets was a blessing for his career and Olympiakos. That's why he became the GOAT of European basketball. Nowadays all the great European players go to the NBA for the majority of their career (doncic, jokic etc). None will even come close to Kill Bill's numbers for many many years!
I understand from where you're coming from but I wouldn't call V Span Europe's GOAT, since I saw Nick Galis play, and largely thanks to him basketball was popularized in Greece when we won the Eurobasket in 87 with Galis as the MVP of the tournament, averaging 37 ppg.
Και γω σαν γαύρος φίλε πάντα γουσταρα τον Μήτσο και ούτε δεχομουν να τον βρίζουν οι καφροι επειδή ήταν παιχταρας και έκανε την δουλειά του. Θα μου λείψουν τέτοιοι παίχτες που δύσκολα θα ξαναβγάλει η μικρή Ελλάδα
Συμφωνώ κύριοι και με τους δύο σας. Ολυμπιακός κ εγώ αλλά άπειρο σεβασμό και στους δύο αυτός παίχτες! Ότι είχαν να πουν ήταν μέσα στο γήπεδο αγωνιστικά και μέχρι εκεί. Περήφανος που τους έβλεπα να αγωνίζονται. Καθόλου περήφανος για αυτός τους άμυαλους που έβριζαν τον έναν και τον άλλον.
I remember this guy from the 2006 World Championships. He was their best player against Team USA. Van Gundy didn't know who he had when they signed this player, choosing instead to play Rafer Alston over him. What a disgrace. This guy was like Steve Nash and he was being benched.
@@donwhitman6714 Ya because he was being benched. I really believe Van Gundy had a hidden agenda in benching him. But I'm glad he didn't go to the Spurs. They would've won a 3 peat with him along with TD, Tony and Manu.
His story reminded me of Drazen Petrovic.... When Drazen was drafted by portland, the coach there just like van gundy in this video didn't play him just leave him on the bench and brought him out during garbage time. Then drazen went to New Jersey Nets and then everyone saw how good he was, one of the best 3 point shooter in the nba at the time of his death. If only Vassilis went to another team that would play him more, he would have been like Drazen Petrovic
@@zoluhwa3508 Spanoulis has huge ego, he trained the most compared to others so he always expected to play a lot and lead. If there was an NBA coach who would be OK with that and give him the chances he needed then he would have made a name of himself in NBA. He was unlucky in that, he left Panathinaikos, the best team in Europe back then because he was 2nd in command and went to Olympiakos where he became the undisputed leader. The rest is history, when he got what he wanted psychologicaly then his game reached the top level.
Panathinaikos 09-10' had Diamantidis, Spanoulis and Jasikevicius as guards and Obradovic - Itoudis as coach and ass. Coach. Also Batiste and Pekovic. Don't you think that's insane? Team of legends.
Spanoulis, Papaloukas and Diamantidis were such great players....At the top 10 of all around European players after the giants Galis, Petrovich, Kucoc, etc....
Yes, many great players were destroyed by the NBA because they didn’t want to give them a chance, we know quite a few such cases. If Spanoulis had as much of a chance as Giannis, or Luka, then that would be a whole different story. Personally, I'm very happy that Luka got the chance that turned out to be a majestic move by the Dallas Mavericks. Of course, I am happy with all the successes of European players, especially Giannis and Jokić.
He didn't have the physical talent to be great in the NBA. You have no idea how much of a difference that makes on the court. I've played against great players from the NBA and legends in Europe. The NBA is just a different game. I'd be suited much more for playing in the NBA myself but I was stupid.
He is a legend, as a Turkish basketball fan I hated to see him having the ball in the last seconds. But I don't think he would succeed in NBA. He was small and had a special time of playing. He and Diamantidis were both true legends and true gentlemens.
I think he is a legend in euro basket. But I could see players like ginobli or tony Parker along with other NBA European players would having a similar career if they played their prime years in the euro league. But we’ll never know
A couple of years ago I was on a flight from Heraklion to Athens. Piraeus was on Krete for a game and stayed in the hotel I stayed in for work (we were organizing a seminar closeby) and as I was heading back home via Greece, I noticed the team was on my flight as well. Because of prices being good for flights I had gotten a first class seat (nothing major, just a seat at the front of the plane basically) and told the coaches that if Vassilis wanted it, he could have my seat. He came over to me while boarding and said he really appreciated the offer but he wanted to stay with the rest of the team. I'll always remember that.
Great video guys. I believe that with Popovich Spanoulis would have played much more and had more chances to "shine". However we enjoy what he achieved when he came back so... fine by me :P
I'm an American so I'm genuinely asking... Why do you believe he would have fit better with Pop? I know the Spurs were/are famous for finding these international gems, but that was a really talented Spurs roster. From the video it looked like he was a shoot first kind of player..and that Spurs team was all about fundamentals and making the right pass. Was he a talented distributor as well? Was he really talented enough to take away shots from Duncan, Parker and Ginobili? He seems like he was a bucket but they Spurs already had Manu coming off the bench for instant offense. Was he a good spot up shooter too, or mainly just a scorer? The fact the Spurs wanted to give him a roster spot on that team says a lot about his skills but from the video I would have thought his best case scenario would have been on a rebuilding team where he could be THE guy. At least for a couple seasons so that the rest of the league could see that he could consistently score in NBA, then once he's made a name for himself go out and find a better team. Ironically, even though they were a good team, I think he would have been a great fit in Dallas.
@@odonnellcaleb Spanoulis played as a PG a lot too... in his later years he was an exceptional passer and had some insane passing highlights in the Euroleague... Spanoulis was something like a shorter Manu Ginobili... unpredictable, very inteligent, very talented and skilled, born for the big moments, ice in his veins while the clock was running out... Manu was absolutely a better player but not by such a big margin that would make Spanoulis a bad NBA player... Spanoulis would have been a phenomenal NBA 2nd unit scorer with 20-25mins per game... let me put it this way... he was a better basketball player than Jamaal Crawford because Jamaal was shooting and scoring a lot but was never a true winner and his game was very one dimensional (scoring), Spanoulis was a complete guard, like Manu... And of course a guy that you can give him the ball at the end of the game and let him shoot the final shot and be happy about it is hard to find... and Spanoulis was 100% that guy... he could shoot from literally anywhere (infinite range) and his killer instinct while taking the final shot is I believe the best at least in the last 20 years of European basketball... Anyway... Spanoulis left the NBA because his ego got hurt by having an idiot for a coach (Van Gundy)... but leaving and not trying to play for the Spurs and show his talent to the whole world was a cowardly move that really destroyed his image in my mind... amazing basketball player, but he chose the easy love of the fans back home and the easier success of the Euroleague where he was the best over sticking it out in the NBA and giving every ounce of his soul to show the world that he was one of the best guards of his generation worldwide... for someone who calls himself a competitor that was the most cowardly move he could make...
@@odonnellcaleb Spanoulis would be something between Parker and Manu. Not necessarily better than them, and probably not being able to take a starter's spot from them, but he could absolutely have a 6th man role in that team. Moreover, if you had 3 seconds on the clock to hit a game winning 3 pointer, in my opinion Spanoulis would be your best option. That being said, you are absolutely right saying that Spanoulis needed to feel like THE guy, which is the reason why he left the nba and then panathinaikos.
I'm Australian (so there is limited bias) and there were some fantastic Euro guards during that period. The NBA just couldn't wrap their head around what tough euro guards could do for them.
There are few legends that can make me watch European basketball and he's one of the biggest reason if not the biggest reason for me to watch European basketball.
Having someone like Spanoulis to look up is a very good choice for any young player out there and for many reasons. Not only for his basketball "trophies" but mostly because of the way he did it: Dedication and hard work. Also, outside of the courts hes been very humble and a worthy role model for any youngster, since he has always been a family man throughout his career ,having 6 kids so far ,all of them born while he was still a player!! :)
"Family man" means nothing. What's your point in stating that he has 6 kids? He knows how to make kids? Wow, very special. When people like you say family man, or family values you mean the irrational and objectively wrong morality that people shouldt have a lot of sexual partners before marriage. If everyone has a lot of sexual partners before marriage, as long as contraceptives are used there are no unwanted pregnancies, there is no spreading of diseases, there is no negative effect on society.
@@smrtfasizmu6161 U dont hear Spanoulis saying anything, Its TMAC talking and if u see the full video he agrees that VSpan is the TMAC of Europe (not just his country). Actually that was very humble of him ,because he was more than Tmac ,maybe more like Kobe of Europe as NBA MVP x2 Yannis Antetokoumbo stated recently....or maybe u know better,who knows! XD
@@smrtfasizmu6161 One of the nicknames that OLY fans have given to Spanoulis is "Daddy" and something tells me you already know why ,so no need to explain any further 😉
I happened to direct the television coverage in London at the O2 Arena for the EuroLeague in 2013. You didn't see half of the highlights in this video. He was a powerhouse and I agree the NBA didn't use or allow his talents to build and come to fruition. Maybe because the coaches wanted their big name players to be in the forefront who knows. Remember this is a team effort and it takes a team to win. Spanoulis was just brilliant in the Final Four in London in 2013 period! Who had to see it to believe it.
He is a living LEGEND! And he gets respect of the best teams of Europe! I personally admired him back when he was to panathinaikos. The move to Olympiakos was so tremendous back then because of such rivalry between the two teams. The best player of Europe!
the most terrifying thing about him was that in many games he was awful for 3 quarters and then... well, he won those big games almsot single-handedly! You could never count him out
Really shows how much a coach can make or break careers. Although I’m sure both made mistakes there is a reason Van Gundy never coached again and became a subpar commentator. Too bad we never saw him with Pop.
Wiggins is another good example though, he had 4-5 different coaches at Minnesota, still averaged 20+ but it took GSW and Kerr to put him in a system and make it work.
Βarkley is funny and shit , but he needs to pay more respect to legends like Billy . If he doesnt know the guy that destroyed his Dream Team , he 'd better be an analyst for golf
he beat the dream team by 6 points and then couldn't finish losing to a Spain without Gasol by 23 points. Then he never even reached the semi-finals with Greece again in any WC or Olympics. His "great" Greek team was even eliminated by Nigeria in a qualifying match. Not so legendary. He had one good game against the US but then again so did Papaloukas and Schortsanitis
NBA is too small for players like Spanoulis, Diamantidis, Navaro, Sarunas, Bodiroga, Papaloukas. At their time NBA was also smaller than it is today. But still at this time it is the league that relies on athletic capacity, power and speed while the final product favours the spectacle. On the other hand european basketball gives the opportunity to basketball geniuses to thrive, lead and produce real basketball moments, thrilling highlights, rivalries, cold and hot sensations and moments that will inprint in our minds for the generations to came, because it really respects a true talent giving him the way to evolve and mature without taking as a standard the muscular size, speed and poor tactics.
@@raphaelajunior4259 wtf don't you get ? First things first, if you gotta no clue in European Basketball there is nothing to figure it out to begin with once you can't compare it to NBA and its players. For us in Europe who watch EUROPEAN Basketball and NBA we can compare them, and can tell the one is a tactical sport with energetic funs that provide certain help for the home team. Players and coaches have to be strong personalities who respect the hierarchy and rely on team work. On the other hand watching NBA can tell that fans are only decorative in a cinema like stadium atmosphere. Coaches are simply there only for giving us the idea that someone has the control but in reality the prima donna of the team takes over. We can also tell that there is no team work like that we can watch in Euroleague and we feel that NBA is not basically basketball but just a show that relies on physical strength, size and three pointers. I believe we both can agree that NBA is starting more and more to rely on European mentality and approach with players like Luca, Giannis, Jovic and on the other hand we watch lots American players perform great in Euroleague while no one appreciates them neither gave them a chance in NBA
@@Metron_Ariston σταματήστε επιτέλους να αναπαράγετε τις ηλιθιότητες που σας έχουν κάνει πλήση εγκεφάλου οι τραγικοί Έλληνες δημοσιογράφοι που προσπαθούν να σας πουλήσουν το προϊόν τους, είτε αυτό λέγεται ελληνικό πρωτάθλημα είτε λέγεται Euroleague. Το ότι θεωρείς το ευρωπαϊκό μπάσκετ αμιγώς πιο "tactical sport" από το NBA, αν μη τι άλλο δείχνει την παντελή έλλειψη στοιχειώδους γνώσης του αθλήματος. Δεν θέλω να σε στεναχωρήσω αλλά στην Ευρώπη παίζεται ένα απλό και εντελώς απαρχαιωμένο pick and roll, χωρίς καν βασικά cuts τύπου zipper. Ενώ στο NBA, το κάθε playbook ακόμα και της πιο μέτριας ομάδας, συνήθως μετράει τόσες σελίδες όσες και ο άρχοντας των δαχτυλιδιών (και δεν μιλάμε για τα playoffs, που το scouting και οι αντίπαλες στρατηγικές φτάνουν σε επίπεδο KGB). Ένα άλλο τραγικό λάθος που κάνετε όλοι οι φίλοι του Ευρωπαϊκού μπάσκετ, είναι να εκθειάζετε την καλή άμυνα που παίζεται εδώ στην Ευρώπη, ενώ αυτό απλά αποδίδεται στον πολύ απλό κανονισμό που επιτρέπει στους ψηλούς να την αράζουν κάτω από την ρακέτα για όλη την διάρκεια της άμυνας αλλά επίσης αποδίδεται και στην μέτρια ικανότητα των ευρωπαίων παικτών να παίξουν ένας εναντίον ενός. Στο μόνο που θα συμφωνήσω είναι το ότι το μοντέρνο NBA έχει όντως επηρεαστεί πολύ από το ευρωπαϊκό passing game. Τώρα πάλι αν εσύ θεωρείς σαν θετική ατμόσφαιρα όλους τους Μογγόλους που φωνάζουν, βρίζουν, ρίχνουν αντικείμενα και φωτοβολίδες στο παρκέ τότε σου αξίζει η παρακμή του μοντέρνου ευρωπαϊκόυ μπάσκετ και η ψαλίδα που ολο και μεγαλώνει.
@@divinitygaming8673 φίλε δεν συμφωνώ μαζί σου, είσαι παντελώς απόλυτος και κάθετος και περιγράφεις αυτό που βλέπεις σαν μπάσκετ με υποκειμενικά κριτήρια. Εκφράζω την γνώμη μου και όχι κάποιου δημοσιογράφου. Τα πράγματα είναι πολύ πιο απλά απ' ότι τα περιγράφεις ορολογιακά. Το σύγχρονο μπάσκετ στην Ευρώπη δεν βασίζεται στο πικ εν ρολ όπως λες αυτό ανήκει πριν μία δεκαετία έχει γίνει μεγάλη εξέλιξη προς την ένταση, ταχύτητα, ευστοχία και το μέγεθος των παιχτων σε μια κατεύθυνση που έχει τα χαρακτηριστικά του ΝΒΑ όμως δεν αφήνει πίσω την ιεραρχία και την τακτική που εφαρμόζεται ανέκαθεν στο ευρωπαϊκό στυλ. Οι διαφορές σε Ευρώπη και ΝΒΑ είναι 2, ξέρεις ποιες είναι και γιατί εν τέλει αυτό που βλέπεις είναι πιο ελκυστικό στα μάτια απέναντι από τον Ατλαντικό;;; Πρώτον τα μπάτζετ και τα τεράστια οικονομικά μεγέθη σε όλους τους κλάδους, οργάνωση, μεταφορικά, ιατρικά, εγκαταστάσεις, αναλύσεις κ.α και δεύτερον στο αθλητικό πλεονέκτημα των Αφροαμερικανών και των Αφρικανών που έχουν γεμίσει το άθλημα καθαρά και μόνο υπέρ του θεάματος πάλι και της δύναμης που έχουν αυτά τα κορμιά. Δεν πιστεύω να διαφωνείς ότι οι μαύροι κάνουν το ΝΒΑ αυτό που είναι. Αν λοιπόν σε αυτά τα δύο βασίζεται η θεωρία σου για το μπάσκετ κάνεις λάθος. Γιατί όντως αυτά τα δύο είναι που δημιουργούν τις διαφορές στα 2 στυλ. Στο USA όλα είναι προϊόν και όλα πωλούνται και χάριν του κέρδους που στον αθλητισμό για τους Αμερικανούς προέρχεται μέσω του θεάματος, του σασπένς, της έντασης, προσαρμόζουν τα αθλητικά γεγονότα. Εδώ στο NFL πουλάνε ξύλο και στρατηγική με ντοπαρισμένα τέρατα. Λοιπόν για εμένα και πολλούς άλλους πιστεύω μπορεί να έχουμε έλλειψη σε χρήμα οχι για να φέρουμε Αμερικανούς, αλλά για να κρατήσουμε τους καλύτερους Ευρωπαίους και να αναπτυχθεί το άθλημα με κίνητρα για τους μικρούς και ανερχόμενους. Έχουμε έλλειψη σε υποδομές και όλα τα τεχνικά θέματα, αλλά ρε φίλε ξέρουμε τόνους μπάσκετ και παράγουμε μπάσκετ και βλέπουμε μπάσκετ και όχι show και μόστρα. Να σου πω αν πρόλαβες να δεις μπάσκετ τη δεκαετία του 80- 90 το NBA ήταν απείρως καλύτερο από τώρα και έβλεπες μονομαχίες να πέφτουν κορμιά και να ματώνουν παίχτες με θεατές να κάνουν τις έδρες φωτιά και όχι reality show. Εν ολίγοις το handicap σε όλα τα παραπάνω το καλύπτουμε με πραγματικό μπάσκετ και με αξιόλογους Αμερικανούς που έχουν αδικηθεί από την δική τους leagua. Ας όψεται το ποδόσφαιρο που κάνει τη ζημιά στο δικό μας μπάσκετ και το NBA με τον αθέμιτο ανταγωνισμό του που παίρνει παιχταράδες από ευρώπη με το ελάχιστο μη εγγυημένο συμβόλαιο που πάλι είναι τεράστιο για ευρωπαϊκά δεδομένα και κάθονται στον πάγκο επειδή δεν βάζουν πάνω από 20 πόντους και δεν έχουν ποσοστά γύρω στο 40% σε κάθε ματς! Αλλά εδώ βλέπεις είναι πολλές οι χώρες οι ομάδες και οι νόμοι και δεν υπάρχει μια ενιαία γραμμή εκεί είναι μια η χώρα. Τέλος φίλε μην προσβάλλεις τους οπαδούς ούτε τους φιλάθλους ναι έχουν υπάρξει ακρότητες όμως η ατμόσφαιρα σε ελληνικά και ευρωπαϊκά γήπεδα σε ποδόσφαιρο και μπάσκετ είναι πραγματικά υπέροχη και βοηθά την εκάστοτε ομάδα. Δεν είναι Μογγόλοι ούτε Ούννοι και δεν κάνουν ακρότητες σε κάθε αγώνα, μην τα τσουβαλιαζεις όλα για 50-100 χαμένους μπαχαλακηδες . Δεν ξέρω αν πας γήπεδο αλλά εγώ που πάω ξέρω τι σου λέω και ειδικά στο μπάσκετ στην Ελλάδα και στην Ευρώπη είμαστε άψογοι και κύριοι και όσο χρειάζεται βοηθάμε. Δεν τρώμε pop corn ούτε χορεύουμε σαν μπαγλαμαδες, προσφέρουμε στις ομάδες μας τη δύναμη της ψυχολογίας που χρειάζεται. Αυτά δεν τα βλέπεις εκεί εκτός από ελάχιστες εξαιρέσεις ίσως στους τελικούς.
Αντί σαν Έλληνες να είμαστε περήφανη για τέτοια βίντεο, βγάζουμε την χολή μας μηδενιζοντας την αξία ενός άλλου παγκόσμιας κλάσης. Έλληνες, απολαύστε Τσιτσιπας Γιάννη Γκάλη Γιαννάκη καραγκούνη και 10δες άλλους Έλληνες, αξίζουν χειροκρότημα όχι αυτά τα σχόλια που τους δίνεται εδώ! Παναθηναϊκός είμαι, όμως δεν παύει να είναι παικταράς επειδή πήγε στον Ολυμπιακό που είναι ο μεγάλος αντίπαλος μας. Πρέπει να σεβόμαστε και λίγο μεταξύ μας ρε παιδιά!
Vassilis was a natural talent,he needed time and he could shine in the NBA,plus it was a more difficult era in the NBA and there was a huge gap in athleticism, nowadays it is just a three point contest where spanoulis would have been lethal assisting his teammates and scoring shots that count
You need to mention his passion for the game and his refuse to lose mentality he had in the game. Apart from scoring he could read defences so well and play pick and roll with the right centers and PF like a few. He was also hard in training being the first to be there and the last to leave after it. A true athlete and leader.
Spanoulis did play in NBA. He played for the Houston Rockets. At that time Tmac was also on the Rockets. Spanoulis didn't get much playing time to show his talent. In 31 games he was averaging about 3 ppg on 8 minutes playing time. So he left for Europe the next year.
I went to Olympiakos-Panathinaïkos soccer game a few months ago. Before the kickoff Panoulis was celebrated by the fans, as part of a week long farewell. It was amazing to see a full stadium giving a long standing ovation and singing Panoulis' name for long minutes. What a moment, what a player, what a career!
Nice work dude.You need hours of video to descride the legend of Kill Bill.At Serbia there is a "Vasillis Spanoulis" basketball court to honor him.Just a tip from Greece.👌🤝
if spanoulis played now in the nba he'd probably be in talks with the likes of giannis, luka and jokic as great rising stars. So sad he had to play at the time where its not yet many euro players in nba
Is Spanoulis the most clutch euro league player of all time? I think so. He hit so many clutch shots. He really was like the Euro Kobe in the big moments when it came to hitting clutch shots in final seconds.
Many times European style doesn't fit US standards. It's not worse just different. Spanioulis like to play in an organized environment, with different rules, tempo, etc. Probably he would fit Spurs style. Also, NBA was not ready back then to give EU players a leading role. If you have TMac, he needs to shine not a guy from Europe. But thanks to Pop, Dirk, and a few others today coaches and team are not so close-minded.
Also not mentioned - wade LeBron and Carmelo led team USA the year they were drafted…. They were there bc kobe and Shaq claimed they would be terrorist targets - you should def tell people that when using that 2006 run as an achievement
Spanoulis was the scoring leader in Panathinaikos but he was NEVER the leader. That position belonged to Dimitris Diamantidis (an arguably more complete player).
Great video for a real legend with amazing clutch gene. He once told in an interview that after he lost his father as a kid, he always played for him and he wasn't afraid of any big moment because nothing was that important. Also, basketball became his love and refugee to get away from all his pain losing his father. Thank you for effort to put on a very nice video about a real legend.
If Pablo Prigioni had a very decent career in the NBA, there is no question that Spanoulis, Diamantidis or Papaloukas could have done the same if not better. The issue is that Spanoulis had too much confidence and natural leadership instinct to accept being a role player in the NBA. Diamantidis could have been a better fit from a physical aspect and the fact that he had a different character, but he never had the interest (or maybe the confidence) to take this extra step.
Van Gundy was a old school coach at that time. if he went to the spurs from the beginning it would.be diffrent if beno udrih able to shine in spurs spa is no question
Popovich would be great for Spanoulis. Spanoulis was so angry with Van Gundy that he didnt think clearly for me , although some people say he also had a family situation which would be important.
I remember watching the EuroLeague 2013 final RM vs Olympiacos, when I was living in Ljubljana. We were 17 points ahead in the second quarter. I was sure we would win EL at last after 18 years. Kill Bill managed on his own to turn back the tables and destroyed us in the second half. Cold blooded as hell. He taught us (a young Laso’s team back then) that matches last 40 min. We took revenge in Madrid in 2015, also against Olympiacos and Spanoulis. Big respect to the guy. Great FIBA basket legend
i feel like its kind of weak...to be called one of the best you ultimatively have to play against the best...and not play in the second leaugue because you are tracy mcgrady there :(
Vassilis Spanoulis is the EuroLeague GOAT and he's the most clutch player in the history of basketball. He is such a legendary player for those who were young and growing up watching him play in Europe at the time like Giannis (who said Spanoulis is Euro Jordan) and Luka, and many others. Van Gundy can forever have on his career resume that he benched the EuroLeague GOAT and then got fired. Also, the Panathinaikos Only Fans and Diamantidis Stans that are trolling this video's comment section are downright embarrassing with such ridiculous trolling.
Not just Spanoulis that entire 2006 Greek squad, majority of the players ended up having legendary careers. A golden Generation. Spanoulis, Diamantidis and Papaloukas are widely considered 3 of the best guards to ever come out of Europe and they all played at the same time in the same team. They have 9 Euroleague titles between them
He is a true greek, of course his home is Greece. Basketball aint just the NBA. Spandulis is a Legend in every Case. Also his assist ability is crazy. This Man is Basketball as a Person.
