Why Men Don't Date Hyper Independent Women With Big Egos 

"independent" is an illusion, the Universe isn't even "independent"

"Independent" = attitude = drama = no peace. why do sisters NOT understand this SIMPLE concept?

nothing runs independently in this world. business needs customers, employers needs employees. women are blinded with identifying with word independent. it's a reason why it's pushed in our community

Men get money and want to find a woman to build and start a family with. Women get money and want to state they are independent from needing a man. We are not the same .

I Wouldn't Want to be Erin's husband...

The Irony is these women in the panel are the exact examples of the topic they are discussing without even realizing it. PLEASE stay single and independent and save a man's life by doing that.

Erin is the exact woman that Smart Guy was talking about

If any woman was independent, they disconnect from the power grid, find land. Make your own fabric to make your own clothes, hunt, and process your own meat with the weapons you make. That's independence by true definition.

Children “NEED” both parents. That’s what’s missing from these narcissistic and selfish discussions.

Honestly these woman like most of the woman at 8 at the table are out of their minds. The fact that they are arguing to be independent is hilarious especially given the fact that one of them is married. She must drive her husband insane.

Women more loyal to there girlfriends interest than own man type shit

Amanda's father let her down. He wanted to protect her so much, that he taught her how to only be single for life. So sad!

Rico my man you are getting smarter every day, keep teaching brother. A need is for ever for now and tomorrow. What's are temporary.

If she does not trust your leadership then why is she entering a relationship with you? Again that falls on her lack of vetting and intuition. I’m so sick of hearing that. She has to trust him… if she does not trust him do not be with him wtf is so hard to understand. 🤦🏾‍♂️

Egos should never be involved in a relationship

Dude with the short hair cut and lipstick really think she ate.

Women always bring up the comment that men can’t lead. Why are you in a relationship where the man can’t lead. Lol

Stay away from large egos. It's usually just a narcissist. And I don't mean the type that social media is accusing everyone of being either. I mean an actual, textbook, ruin-your-life-as-long-as-they-live, never-forget-that-you-crossed-their-path-until-they're-gone-from-the-earth type of narcissist.

Erin's husband should become suspicious of his wife right now. Bro, mount your guard and be vigilant.

Egos typically come into play when there isn’t neutral respect for each other. Great conversation 🙏🏾

This is a waste of time these women are hard headed

The semantics by the woman on this show is amazing.

Her husband must be living in hell with her!!!

Erin is so far from removed from a biblical wife it’s sad

When your start a business or a new job, you need a car but you want a Bentley. Wants cost more than needs.

A Needed is a lifetime and Want is temporary…

They keep cutting Rico off when he starts cooking . I like that at the end he still gonna say what he needs to say

She literally said her life would be better if her Husband died. SMH. She don’t love that man.

He finally hammered the nail on the "want/ need" topic. I think this all went over everyone's head and they won't fully understand until their life's "needs" are no longer accessible. Ppl cry in despair when they loose the thing/ person that they need in life, especially if they took them for granted, vs rebounded after loosing a thing/ person they only wanted temporarily. In modern times, we've grown to aspire superficial wants over our needs and later wonder why we're so F-up and lost traditional morals and team building in our society. I believe this puts us in a downward spiral and long-term destruction in human society. How will humans look in 100yrs with this inward mindset?

They need to bring Shahrazad Ali up there

These kids don't know how to define love in this conversation. In Greek love is defined in five ways: 1:Eros (erotic love) 2:Agapé (Godly love) 3:Philia (Friendship love) 4:Storge (the love of things or affection) 5:Lagneía (Lust) When you're able to break it down, then you'll have a clearer conversation. The English language doesn't have the vocabulary/words to articulate these feelings/actions (aka nouns.) Have a great day 🌞

Rico is the heart and soul of this podcast. He speaks from the hearts and minds of men. Look how easily Rico broke down the problem with women in relationships to men, social media and the greed that comes with it. That raised the hairs on the back of those women's necks. Mama There Goes That Man

If she didn’t regret how her father raised her she wouldn’t be in therapy trying undo the damage he did with his flawed logic

10:20 The difference between needs and wants is, your wants can change (over time) but your needs are forever. You may want to be doctor when you was little but being a content creator seems to be easiest/ fastest way to put food on the table. You will always need to eat. That will never change. It’s better to be needed than to be wanted and day

If you don't allow someone to lead, how will you ever know if they can lead? How will you be able to build trust in their leadership if you're always combative about any decisions or moves made that isn't what you would make? Why are you even dealing with a guy you're not willing to or able to trust or whose leadership you're unwilling or unable to follow?

Damn, she really said she would be better off without her husband. Thats wild!

I could not deal with Erin.

Do they ever look back at these videos and say damn I was buggin’?

I’m so glad homeboy cleared up what she was saying so she can understand the point of of needs and once thank you my brother appreciate that

I’m out, children…

God didn't create us to be independent of each other.

Rico you tripping on this independent topic

A need is something that is needed to survive. A want is something that an individual desires, but would be able to live without.

This is the best debate they’ve had in a while.

Erin has a very interesting point on the whole need and want angle . And I absolutely agree . I might need a certain job , but that don’t mean I’m happy to wake up early in the morning for it . The job I wanted and worked hard to get , something I’ll enjoy maintaining till it’s all over .

Those type of ladies give me jokes … ok you work a job and drive a Benz “oh you a boss chick now!” 😎😅😅 most adults work and drive it don’t make us Bosses it’s called “Being an Adult” 🤦‍♂️😅

The older lady is blessed to have landed a husband being so masculine yet beautiful most BW life her can't and won't. 🤞🏾 On Amanda

Having a relationship with a woman is a need to a men.not want. As a man I need my wife.

either Erin is cap or her husband catching he!!

We are the only group of people that has to deal with this period!

while self-sufficiency and independence share some similarities, they are not the same thing. Self-sufficiency refers to the ability to provide for oneself, while independence refers to the ability to make decisions and act without the influence of others. However, once you’re in a relationship making decisions without the influence of your mate will create issues . Especially if the wife makes important decisions without the head of the family. Why? Because despite what society says, if things go wrong they’ll look at him like “why’d you let this happen? He’s blamed.

These circular conversations are crazy because even being a man with the power, money and dominance the woman in our life still expects us to run things by her and implore her input. Why they struggle with doing it when they make a little money is CRAZY!

Our community is fragmented to where we can have this conversation for the next decade and still not find clarity because of the egos that refuse to die with each party.

My grandmother died and my grandfather died one year after her. They were married 50 years. These women are really hurt. It’s so sad.

Hyper independence isn’t taught by your parents when you’re raised to be a dependent

Also When you want something you can give it up, when you need something you will die to try keep it, don't confuse want and need, one is a fleeting emotion one is a survival keystone!

Most of these woman need every penny they make. Spending just as much as they make. Why is that impressive.

When you are needed, you are irreplaceable. You obtain purpose when you are needed. When you are wanted, you are easily replaceable.

I’m 33 married my high school sweetheart we meet at 15 and I’m glad I’m not in this dating pool

Thank u finally someone said it. Nobody is independent. No one. In this life you always need someone. Always. Snd im not talking relationships either.

They just derailed his whole point and wasted our time with that synonymous definition BS.

If you're independent that means that you don't need God! I am very much depending on Him everyday!

Saying you know how men are in society is the flaw you have to choose better and still if it’s not from a previous relationship then you have childhood trauma that has to be fixed sometimes you have to come to terms with the way you were raised isn’t right and you have to change

The funny part is the more "independent" they get the more they start to exhibit the very qualities they complain about in us.

I notice when Rico is making a point the ladies have a look of disinterest or diverge the conversation

Needs” from an emotional state is far different than Wants” from an aspirational sense. That’s the part most women miss. Wants are the beginnings of goals and bullet points that lead to the emotional Needs we all require to continually build in tandem

He Asked And The few Women on The Panel Clarified for x what The "Objective Goals" of The HYPER INDEPENDENT Women were. THANK YOU

The ramp is up. The boat is leaving most will drown

If I were to wake up and realize I was in a relationship or marriage with her , I'd run so fast that I'd catch cramps in both my quads . She's so emotionally exhausting. Everything that comes out of her mouth is so unintelligent and emotionally based .

It’s Better to be needed than wanted, you can live with out your wants but not with out your needs

Rico you are right

Erin is projecting 😂😂

I need to be needed. If you don't need me, then what is my purpose?

I didn’t know ALL women are good leaders. Where have I been?

She says they have to trust your leadership. Why would you be with a man who you don't trust his leadership in the first place. If you don't trust my leadership, leave me alone.

She does do that every time

they should call this the semantics podcast

Fellas..thee chicks is taking over y'all show...man up fel5

My goodness…my head hurts from all this. All he is saying is that independence is a word to describe someone who is not in need of others, relationships whereas self-sufficient describes the capability we have as individuals to take care of ourselves. Why does this even need to be an argument?! 😫 I seriously just don’t understand…

Nobody is independent. To be independent means that you're free of any and all outside influence. And you can't be independent in a relationship

Big ups to my boy Rico. I'm just waiting for that one time he finally blurts out "Yo, stfu I'm talking!" But as usual continue to "lightly," keep ya foot on their necks! 😂😂😂😂

This topic doesn’t need this much discussion. When roles are understood and accepted, marriage is not that difficult. If you want to be independent, why have a conversation about a relationship?

Rico is the only one that speaks with logic..without Rico this yt channel will be done, cuz these women bring to value to the audience, women like Erin is bitter n take it too personal..🤔🤔💯💯

Erin the type of person that would say she needs money but not need her husband lol

Off probation and parole now god bless all god bles me

Being married yo someone constantly saying they dont need you has to be horrible

Did they choose to have these women on the show for the sole purpose of having the men repeat and explain simple terms and concepts OVER and OVER and OVER and ......

Only women think its a flex to be independent in their lives. Men do not think in those terms. Most of us have been and have had to be independent and are looking for a partner that we can depend on.

If you don't trust my leadership then what you doing with me. Argue with a bunch of women who are not married and probably baby mama's 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

True love is unconditional

Toxic Independence is a better term.

I never in my life, wanted anything or anybody for a long period of time. I need my wife, which is why I been with her for years. If it was purely just a want we wouldn’t last past a month, because there is ALWAYS better if you look at things through wants….

If u can't trust his leadership, then you need to move along. If you're a woman who is 'independent', then a man doesn't want you around. Not need, want. We dont want someone who wants to take on our role.

The reason why black women stay independent because they be strong to prove that they’re never wrong so therefore they are always alone because they’re stubborn and nobody wants to deal with that anyway so they buy cats

Dependent self sufficient is an oxymoron. I dont need a woman, I want one. Relationships should enhance the quality of a persons life and not just in a financial way.

Wants can change daily, Needs do NOT !

What tf do u even wanna do that would be considered not being controlled? All a good man wants is a woman to be a mother to their kids as he is a good father.. we’re supposed to set an example for the children.

So he is good enough to be in a committed relationship with, but not good enough to follow his lead?

I got into a arguement well conversation with a supervisor she made more money then me at the job, but i make more money then her as entity. She looked down cuz of her position at the job. But i was like but you dont earn more than me. I got this job a landscaping gig. 2 trucks 3 guys in each truck 5 days a week. And pressure wash houses on the weekends. So i asked her what u talking about. What do you do outside this job. She says well i dont have to work as hard as you. And i told her thats why u alone. Even tho i make more money than u live better than u. You holding on to a status u have at a job but you really not living what u say u living.

If she Independent then let her be, men keep it moving who needs the aggravation ....