that shit actually made me turn off my ps2 because by the time that I got to that point in the story it was like 2am. when he became a skull and said that I got really scared and thought it was some sort of copy protection thing and didn't play it again until the next morning when I confirmed with my dad, that was in fact supposed to happen.
Aw shit, they got this one. I regret to inform you that The Patriots have Censor Nanomachines in you....shit, you probably didn't even understand what I just....I give up, you can't even understand when I say The Patriots....
One thing I'd like to add about Solidus and his child soldiers. The First Liberian Civil War happened in 1989, and Solidus was born in 1974, 2 years after Solid and Liquid, so when all of the child soldier shit happened he was only 15. Not only that but it's highly likely it was all done by the patriots, so that means they made a teenager create a child soldier unit, holy fuck. It also kinda humanises him more, since it shows how much of his life was controlled and what travesties he was forced to.
That's a point driven home further in MGSV, where smol Liquid had his own platoon at a younger age, got roped into Diamond Dogs, and ultimately conned the bigger operation for its resources to later one-up them, once Outer Heaven fell apart. He even had his own groomed super soldier (Psycho Mantis) driven insane by mental torture, killed by their loose ends (Solid Snake) and was ultimately being sheparded by the organization he swore to destroy (Ocelot's connection to the Patriots). Birds of a feather flock together, but also have a habit of flying into the sun.
He ages faster. And also, they refer to him as a true clone. He wasn't actually born like solid and liquid. He was just straight up created. That's how I understand it.
The whole conversation with Raiden where he says: "I'll decide for myself what to believe in" and they clap back with: "But is that even your own idea?" "Or something Snake told you?" Is the absolute pinnacle of an ideological roast Also I like Rose and I think her writing was extremely on the nose in the beginning completely on purpose. Her actual character shown during the later half is actually really well realized
Exactly, a bunch of dummies decided to hat3 the shit out of her which, to be honest I started to become a little distraut at her in mgs4 when she did..what she did. But in Kojima fashion it was all for a reason not to be taken at face value. Which, unfortunately, a bunch of people who play metal gear do.
it isn't though cause one is preaching individuality and choosing for yourself were as the other wants to control literally everything, the whole thing is about the need for individuality and the danger of collectivism and even if a government does take everything over you have to use what individuality in your daily life to keep going snakes speech at the end to raiden describes it perfectly the only part he doesn't spell out is the danger with a big collectivist government but i feel like all of MGS spells that out its very clear they are frustrated with collectivism which makes sense considering how collectivist japan is, i feel this is a inspiration to the people of there country to be happy and chose for themselves and a warning to the rest of the world of the dangers of collectivism sorry for putting so much i love the series and its message and if i miss understood your point and put all this for nothing sorry lmao
Summary of mainline Metal Gear Solid games: Revolver Ocelot trolls everyone involved in execution of Boss's will, wins by manipulating everyone and doing absolutely nothing, to stay away from this mess. Yes, him being born on the beaches of Normandy is absolutely crucial to the plot. _Revolver Ocelot - The man who trolled the world_
“Newgrounds Era” Early Internet: MGS2 sucks. This story is too complicated, I wanna play as Snake. “YTP-2016Surrealism Era” Internet: haha, MGS2 is the best because “A DUD?!” “Post-Irony Era” Internet: Peak MGS, Bravo Kojima
As a filthy zoomer, MGS2 unironically blew my mind away when I first played it when I was 19 on my PS3 and is still my favorite Metal Gear game next to 3. Peak Kojungus writing.
Raiden, disregard what I just told you. The most important thing for you to do now is enjoy a mouth-watering Egg McMuffin Sandwich from the new All-Day Breakfast Menu at McDonald's. All of your favourite McDonald's breakfast items, now available all day at participating McDonald's restaurants. And Raiden, always remember; I'm loving it.
36:28 The "Godzilla vs King Kong" bit cuts a bit deeper than that. Godzilla is also mentioned in MGS3, and has a lot of parallels to Naked Snake: both of them were mutated from atomic testing to not only be sterile, but to go on the assault once its territory was threatened, and could only be stopped once a bigger threat threatens Godzilla. Meanwhile, King Kong was found on an indigenous island as a natural treasure contained within a wilderness to experience freedom, but was later caged when modern civilizations realized he was worth his weight in gold. He was later ensnared by raiders and was tormented, but endured it for Ann whom he had feelings for. He only escapes when the coast is clear, but in New York, there's only so many places to hide. And yes, there is a Son of Kong spinoff too. He was taken down by *biplanes,* Jacks if you will. In addition, the original "Godzilla vs. Kong" was a compromise after Toho couldn't get their intended monster. The previous title? "Godzilla vs. Frankenstein". This reference is so big it spilled over to the sequels.
The entirety of this game is "what did Hideo "games" "LA CREATIVIDAD" Kojima mean by this" and I love it. Like all pissing and shitting around aside, this genuinely might be my favorite game of all time and a game that shaped who I am today: an autistic king.
Hideo Kojima going back in time to cause the Red Scare so a bunch of writers could make political commentary so it would lead to him making peak fiction:
Gonna be real, the fact this game manages to explore and cover one of the most important messages that anyone can ever really be given to learn, and the fact people who played this game [presumably to the end] literally disregarded this and called the game bad is abysmally absurd The fact this video has a few thousand views is criminal, I'm sure others have gone through the game before and cut it apart to analyze every line of dialog, but the way this is formatted makes this information alot easier to understand and absorb, so good job on that
"Metal Gear Solid 2" and "Legend of Zelda Wind Waker" are the two biggest examples of how stupid fanbases can be, and funnily enough both issues almost solely happened because of the trailers of said games.
the fanbase was in awe they were dissatisfied with not being snake. and raiden is only a little cooler by the end of the game but is pretty lame throughout
I just didn’t like Raiden like boy if you don’t take that eyeliner off lol timone sounding lion king mf but nah Quin cool tho I just wanted to play as snake I was 9 and didn’t even comprehend the story until I played it again on ps3 but f them 500 vr missions almost didn’t get Vol 1 but you only have to do 50 now so yeah I have 4 MGS2 platinums still don’t like Raiden
I still hold one of my favourite moments involving this game was showing my friend the later codec calls with the patriot AI Cambell and Rose when they started talking about the internet and the moden day. My man went from semi memeing and joking to looking like something just phased through a wall in front of him, most of the shit the AI spoke about can apply to the modern Internet and it's amazing
Near the end when Snake was talking to Raiden about how his experiences are his alone, reminded me about something i learned in my Philosophy of Mind class i took last year. In that no one has access to your mind, and what reality is is ultimately up to you, given you cannot know what someone else is thinking and feeling, and they cant in return. I first found it terrifying, but found comfort in knowing that my experience is my own, and given that, it made me appreciate reality and existence more. Thanks dumbsy for this epic video, and thank Hideo Kojima for creating peak fiction.
Solidus wasn't going to nuke Manhattan itself, he was going to detonate it in the upper atmosphere, the resulting explosion causing a massive EMP that'll affect all of Manhattan. With it offline, it would be free from the Patriot's control. That's why they wanted Raiden to kill him. Solidus's plans succeeding would be bad news for them. He was a perfect clone of Big Boss and his plan was similar to his. A liberated Manhattan would essentially be Solidus's Outer Heaven.
1 hour and 19 minutes for The first review... 2 hours and 19 minute's for this second review... Good lord i can't even imagine how long the 3rd review will take or if he will do all of them to Metal Gear Revengeance...
The fact that AI Cambell is repeating lines from the first game is actually a subtle plot hint not lazy writing. It's literally a snake simulation and if you've ever read an ai article you know they copy.
Harry Gregson-Williams was not the only composer on MGS2, but also Norihiko Hibino. He composed the tracks that you showcased for how good the music is :). Essentially, most gameplay tracks are composed by Hibino, and most cutscene tracks are composed by Gregson-Williams.
The colorblind man in your example isn't telling you "his truth", he's simply incorrect. Just because he's not lying doesn't mean he's telling the truth, by no fault of his own he lacks the full set of facts. There is truth and lies, correct and incorrect.
18:23 So the reused lines are because they where hinting at the while thing being a recreation of shadow moses , its not "lazy" or "self plagiarism" its actually good storytelling Mgs 2 , the S3 plan was to recreate solid snake so they put riaden through the same excat scenario Honestly not gonna sit here for 2 hours listening to someone who dosent even understand the basic premise if the story. sorry buddy
MGS2 was the first game that made me realize how deep video game stories could be. I was either 12 or 13 the first time I played it and it blew my preteen mind was blown.
Pretty sure Harry Gregson Williams just composed the main theme. Most of the other in game songs were composed by Norihiko Hibino. Great video though 👍
Williams did the cutscene tracks, while Hibino wrote the in game tracks and was the lead composer, he also remixed some of William's stuff to fit the cutscenes better.
Ok quick explanation: the tanker Part of the game wasnt supposed to be on the start of the game, it was supposed to be in the middle of the game like a flash back, it would be better in this way cuz one: you get to know how the events really happening on the thanker. Two the relevelation of the newest aperance of Solid snake
I come across YT videos covering video games that could maybe get a chuckle out of me every so often. Very seldom do I find something that literally makes me laugh out loud throughout the entire video. This is one of those. Love your editing man. This is one of my all time favorites!
If I were to make a metal gear solid 2 spiritual successor, I'd have it to where you got some headset that helps you auto aim and you could take it off at any point. At some points you may find that the soldier you shot, maybe killed, was just an officer doing his duty, or even a normal citizen. The AI obviously controlling the headset if you found out, saying they are bettering humanity by removing the problematic factors of civilization. Further, if you refuse to go along with the AI's plan, they mark you as a enemy of the states. I dunno. Plot point I thought of on the spot.
Idk if you address this later, but its a 2hr vid so before I forget... you went really hard on them for recycling lines told to Snake at the start of MGS1... dude, that was entirely the point
Again, you keep critiquing the game for copying from MGS1 but the LITERAL GOAL OF THE PATRIOTS was to have Raiden recreate and simulate the Shadow Moses mission, to prove they could do it IRL. It wasn't their only goal. But its 100% intentional.
i've never played an mg game but i gotta admit the absolute chadness of kojima being able to write an anti-fanfiction, that's like something i've never even heard of before until now
There’s no such thing as free will. Ask yourself: what’s your favorite flavor of ice cream? Whatever your answer is: why is that your favorite? Can you choose to make another flavor your favorite? If your preference is made up by your experience, something you had no choice in, how can you freely will your preferences? Why is your least favorite not your favorite. In what world is your least favorite your most favorite? If your preference is decided by events and elements you had absolutely no choice in how can you have free will. You can choose yes or no to any answer but what led you to choose yes or no was completely out of your control. Think about it.
I love how Kojima with each game it is the Lore gets a lot more exciting like to get to know more about why they're doing this and who's behind this is so interesting this is why I love metal gear it's one of my favorite franchises
I remember me and my friend taking turns playing this in middle school. We were so frustrated with all the acronym use and double name stuff, and found the "GW system" to be particularly infuriating. Then, towards the end of the game, theres that slow zoom out on a statue of George Washington and my friend just blurted out, "hey there, GW!" We never laughed as hard as we did that day... We never cringed as hard as we did that day...
watching this video was terrifying because my computer is kinda old and actually does freeze and crash sometimes, i kept forgetting that it was part of the video
Back in 2022 I was first getting into Metal Gear Solid, around that time thought I went through a really rough breakup. I felt exactly like how Raiden felt when his world started to fall apart. I didn't know how to feel or what to do, for a few weeks of my life I felt aimless. That was until I finished Metal Gear Solid 2. Solid Snake told me exactly what I needed to hear in that moment. The emotional connection I have, the insane attention to detail that should be studied in game design classes for decades to come, the profound narrative and the metanarrative that makes the plot only work as a video game is why I think Metal Gear Solid 2 is the best game ever made.
“Humans don’t deserve Free Will” I agree with you on a lot of this breakdown but Damn this quote is probably the stupidest thing I’ve ever heard makes sense you waited for 2 hours to put out that conclusive garbage.
Dude, the reason Raiden has alot of tutorials at the start of the plant chapter is you can play just the plant chapter so they need to redo tutorials for those players.
When I first played this I had an absolute blast but Emma section really got to me. To not get too personal I’ll just say that I had a half sister who experienced something absolutely terrible thanks to my own biological father. So when I saw Emma’s last moments it really fucked with me and made me cry for several minutes. This game became really personal to me and quickly became one of my favorite games of all time
1:32:42 God I love how you put aspects of the game into your own video. This genuinely got me for a moment... For real though, I knew both about the mass-produced ray fight (and the cutscenes immediately surrounding it) and vaguely that the Colonel was an AI going into my first playthrough of this game. It was NOT enough to stop this segment from fucking me up bad. It shook me up (especially when you are stuck in the tunnel for a bit until Snake finds you)...
Dude I love how everytime you make one of these videos you reference y'know the media you are reviewing itself, memes centered around it, memes ajancent to that, and, oh yeah, Modern games like Cod or even, Alone in the Dark (which I don’t mind, I just, I just think they are better horrorgames out their, like MGS2, or whatever, cusse it'san alright game, the enemies, gameplay and story, they just, pale in the face compsred to games like Alan Wake 2! But still), (including games you said that you were gonns play like Bioshock, but you somehow ended up playing them anyway), but idk, that's just something I kind of like about your content, taking random things that might not corilate to something, and somehow making that work, sorta like what I try to do but am not good at cause sometimes I talk about certain things for to long and my confidence about what I was talking about might wane for the stupidest of reasons, weather that being me getting rage bated, or being embarrassed at writing way to long comments in a short comments therad, but despite that, and despite the fact that half/all the things you review I either never see beforehand, or have but just didn’t have the time or patience to continue with it (like weather that'd be most of your bad/good movies that you reviewed, or bad/good games), despite that I still like your content because no matter how long or short the video is, I will (sometime) always like your wacky sense of editing and humor, so thsnks for making good content (at least in my opinion that is), I hope you continue to do so, you also deserve a million or so subscribers, and I also hope that you have a good day!
That AI Conversation has to be the most scariest thing I’ve ever heard and seen in a video game. It’s scary because of how much it has aged so well….this game came out in 2001….2001 dude!!
