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WHY MORE BLADES ARE SAFER 

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I talk you through the difference between two vs three or more main rotor blades on a helicopter and why more is better.
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@markjennings2315
@markjennings2315 4 года назад
Mast bumping is such mild word for a catastrophic event that slices the tail boom clean off then usually dismembers or decapitates the pilot.
@jg6438
@jg6438 2 года назад
Mark, right on target. R22 and R44. Turbulence or low G pushover Deadly. jg.
@Funeral_Potatoes
@Funeral_Potatoes 2 года назад
Yes. And just as preventable as driving your car into oncoming traffic and dismembering everyone in it. Don't push the cyclic forward abruptly and you will never have to worry. Every design has its drawbacks.
@jeremylakenes6859
@jeremylakenes6859 Год назад
Meanwhile, the three blades rip themselves apart while on the ground.
@jeremylakenes6859
@jeremylakenes6859 Год назад
@Remain Nameless depends, some helicopter crashes they have had the rotor blades chop into the cyclic controls.
@waynegrobler7432
@waynegrobler7432 2 года назад
Been flying commercially on helicopters for over 30 years. Love your passion and instruction brother. Fly safe. 👍🇿🇦
@pepperpeterpiperpickled9805
Hey Wayne, as an experienced flyer, are there any exercises you could recommend to practice cyclic/pedal/lever coordination when Im not flying?
@waynegrobler7432
@waynegrobler7432 Год назад
@@pepperpeterpiperpickled9805 Hi Peter. I've never thought about it really allthough I do quite a bit of hand and wrist strength exercises. Flying is more of a feel I think? . I wouldn't worry too much about being a bit uncomfortable or un coordinated to start with. You will get more coordination as you go along your flying journey. It becomes 2nd nature quite quickly. Think more about the external factors like, planning your flight properly and sticking to your plan, density altitude, en route weather factors and visibility en route, wires, wind, especially tailwinds, turbulence, fuel management, over loading etc. Those are the things that will keep you alive. Coords will come for sure. Take care and stay calm 🙏🇿🇦👍
@pepperpeterpiperpickled9805
@@waynegrobler7432 good point, mate. I appreciate the answer
@johnhudson8197
@johnhudson8197 2 года назад
I have personally witnessed virtually EVERY LOH (OH6 Cayuse - multi-blade articulated rotor system) chop off its tail boom during autorotation flare/landing (two tours, Vietnam). Yes, underslung two-bladed systems can suffer mast bumping and sheer off - I've witnessed that as well - TWICE. ONE: When one of our Assault Helicopter Company UH-1H Pilots took off with a full load of Pax, cranked up to full speed (about 120K) across the Mekong Delta River - then did a cyclic climb. At the top, he committed the fatal error of pushing the cyclic forward to achieve level flight while simultaneously lowering the collective. That sheered off the rotor system with a nose dive straight down into the water. Wasn't bad enough he killed himself, he took three other crew members and eight servicemember Pax along for the eternity ride with his terminal stupidity. We never recovered the helo or any bodies. We had to go back to where they climbed aboard and work our way back to each command to find out WHO was on that helo. SECOND: An AH-1G Cobra pushed to high speed in his gun run firing everything he had. At the end, he too pulled up into an impressive cyclic climb with the same application of cyclic leveling and collective down as before. His gunship nosed over like a wounded badminton bird and zoomed straight down to meet the angels. How did I know this. I was monitoring our Guard Frequency and heard one voice shout, "This is it!" and another voice (the other gunner) screaming - for all of two seconds before silence reigned. His wingman answered my hail and described the entire event to me. I could go on all day with this - I wrote a book about it. Yes, accidents and SH*T happens - LISTEN to your IPs in school - LEARN proper safety procedures - PRACTICE safe and FULL recovery - and DON'T BE STUPID - that damned machine will end you in a heartbeat if you turn off your brain. John (two tours Vietnam, 1,955 Combat flight hours/helicopters).
@kevinmcguire3715
@kevinmcguire3715 2 года назад
"You come down like a streamlined brick " on autorotation characteristics according to Colonel Boyer concerning the Hughes OH-6 on page 181 of "Vertical Challenge The Hiller Aircraft Story' by JayP.Spenser.
@wageslave387
@wageslave387 2 года назад
"Pax" Did Uber finally corner the helicopter ride market?
@556boris
@556boris 2 года назад
What is the name of your book?
@MrSunrise-
@MrSunrise- 2 года назад
Thanks!
@46bovine
@46bovine 2 года назад
@@wageslave387 No, PAX was used a long time in the aviation industry before the Uber industry silliness.
@mmatt
@mmatt 4 года назад
So what you're saying is that my single blade helicopter design is just going to be just terrible?!?
@JS-wz3km
@JS-wz3km 4 года назад
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@James-rp6mx
@James-rp6mx 3 года назад
Not at all, your design will work just perfectly. Please post the video of your attempts on here.............
@denysivanov3364
@denysivanov3364 3 года назад
@@davidbrayshaw3529 I heard that one blade has the lowest air friction possible and is the most efficient, but if we want to add more power we are forced to use 2, 3 and more blades. So 1 blade designs are usually seen on RC models, 2-3-4 blades on normal planes, a lot of blades on planes line AN 225 Mriya (biggest aircraft on Earth). Same thing we can see with helicopters.
@davidbrayshaw3529
@davidbrayshaw3529 3 года назад
@@denysivanov3364 I am of the understanding that friction relates to the props' surface area, its condition pertaining to damage and subsequent dressing and also pitch. I believe that increasing the number of blades has two significant effects on efficiency. Firstly, by increasing the number of blades the air being "fed" into the following blades becomes "dirty" or disrupted and as a consequence good laminar flow over the following blade is more difficult to achieve. In addition to that the vortices around the tip of the blade create drag therefore increasing the number of blades reduces efficiency. You are correct that increasing power levels usually requires increasing the number of blades which are used. Tip speed and ground clearance are other issues that designers overcome by using additional blades. Years ago I was "hanger rat" )AME working mainly on vintage aircraft. My employer, a licensed engineer, had a saying about the number of blades on a prop that pertained to their efficiency. "Two for go, three for show" but as you point out, you can't avoid having more blades as you increase power.
@RicCrouch
@RicCrouch 3 года назад
However, my zero blade helicopter has a flawless safety record.
@TimRiordan1
@TimRiordan1 4 года назад
Most 2 blade rotors are high inertia rotors; meaning if the engine quits you have more time to react before you lose rotor rpm. Three and four blade rotors are generally low inertia, bleeding off speed rapIdly when you lose power. I have done autos in both a Bell 206 (TH57) and a Bell 406 (OH58D), you have a little more time in the 206 to get the collective down and maintain rotor rpm vs its 4 bladed cousin.
@MrRexquando
@MrRexquando 4 года назад
Couple more things: There is no "ground resonance" with teetering heads. Far cheaper and less complex. Statistically 2x safer.
@unagisama5476
@unagisama5476 4 года назад
what, I thought most 2 bladed were low inertia by their total low head weight and despite getting slightly more outside mass having longer blades, it takes much less time to lose rotor rpms.. thus little autorotation reaction time . 1.5.sec for r22 or something..
@denysivanov3364
@denysivanov3364 3 года назад
@@unagisama5476 its not inertia, 2 blades have less friction then 3, 4 or 5. But with a lot blades more power can be transmitted into air, thats why on big heavy aicrafts-rotocrafts we always will see a lot of blades on rotor/propeller.
@MSneberger
@MSneberger 3 года назад
See an Enstrom for a counterpoint. Lot of inertia with a three-blade rotor.
@ahmadtheaviationlover1937
@ahmadtheaviationlover1937 3 года назад
And the high blade solidity with more blades
@marsgal42
@marsgal42 4 года назад
There were lots of helicopters around my old home base (Langley). You knew when there was a Huey around. :-)
@jonathandavis3497
@jonathandavis3497 2 года назад
Thank you for the very thorough explanation that non pilots can understand, great channel !
@andrewallen9993
@andrewallen9993 4 года назад
Less blade, fewer points of failure but higher stress and loading. More blades, more possible points of failure as more moving parts but they are under less stress and load :)
@FIRE_STORMFOX-3692
@FIRE_STORMFOX-3692 4 года назад
Ima make a 20 blades helicopter
@rsrt6910
@rsrt6910 4 года назад
Also smaller "footprint" while in operation.
@atomicskull6405
@atomicskull6405 4 года назад
Two blades are more efficient.
@Parabueto
@Parabueto 4 года назад
@@FIRE_STORMFOX-3692Not sure if that would even fly given each blade would be right in the disrupted wake of the one in front of it.
@helidrones
@helidrones 4 года назад
Atomicskull Nice too meet you here. That‘s right, a two bladed rotor is more efficient than a multi bladed one as well as a two-blade prop is compared to a three-blade on a drone. What i am wondering is, how the wideness of the blades affects efficiency and other properties of the rotor system. Just from looking at different helicopters i discovered that the blades on multi bladed systems are narrower than on a two blade system. In opposite the blades on a drone are often the same width regardless of the blade count.
@joshualloyd6694
@joshualloyd6694 4 года назад
Hands down best moment of the video was you saying "Wop wop wop wop" 🤣🤣🤣(all with love brother (from CALI))
@fredsalter1915
@fredsalter1915 3 года назад
Watch the beginning scene of "Apocalypse Now"....
@ariftanoli9768
@ariftanoli9768 3 года назад
You are the best Instructor very clear and concise instruction straight to the poit.
@justsomerandomostrich1906
@justsomerandomostrich1906 3 года назад
Very informative. I'm not too familiar with helicopters (I'm more on aeroplanes) but, as a aviation enthusiast, being told by someone who works with/pilots rotor crafts is such a treat! Thanks
@bellestansfield3961
@bellestansfield3961 Год назад
I'm learning soooo much from you...truly grateful for the information you share. Thank you.
@jimwettrich264
@jimwettrich264 4 года назад
thank you very helpful you rock Mischa!!
@rickthemagicguy6075
@rickthemagicguy6075 4 года назад
I really enjoy your videos. Your presentations and positions are informative. I enjoy your teaching style!
@user-jq2rf4nf3o
@user-jq2rf4nf3o 10 месяцев назад
Forgot the dampers, ground resenence, landing gear struts, droop stop pounding. - Extra blade adds drag in autorotation makes for a short steep 'glide' less places to land in a hostile area. - Look between your toes instead of out the windshield
@bibleandbibs6407
@bibleandbibs6407 4 года назад
I really enjoy your videos. Your around the world trip was wonderful.
@MrRexquando
@MrRexquando 4 года назад
Another great "con" against fully articulated multi-blade heads is Ground Resonance. Usually with the smaller birds and can be catastrophic. This doesn't happen with teetering heads.
@atomicskull6405
@atomicskull6405 4 года назад
There are more than just teetering and fully articulated. There are also rigid and semi rigid.
@Glidescube
@Glidescube 4 года назад
So can a two blade suffer from ground resonance?
@simeonkioi3844
@simeonkioi3844 3 года назад
even a two blade heli can suffer ground resonance
@MrRexquando
@MrRexquando 3 года назад
@@simeonkioi3844 not on a teetering head. It's kind of the reason teetering works.
@davyboone1794
@davyboone1794 3 года назад
Your videos are amazing! I love people who know what they're talking about and who know how to convey it visually. Very effective learning method:-)
@rahmatpermana2557
@rahmatpermana2557 Год назад
Great explanations
@stealhty1
@stealhty1 4 года назад
Good Explanation,The flapping sound of two blades is very distinctive
@markclark4154
@markclark4154 3 года назад
On two blade helicopter the forces to roll the helicopter vary dramatically from when the blade is fore and aft position (low) to the port starboard position (maximum). For similar reasons wind turbines have standardized on the three blade design to reduce cyclic jaw forces.
@Edvanderbie
@Edvanderbie 2 года назад
Thank you for the video, great explanation. More of these informational take videos would be awesome. Thanks!
@fernandopratesi5378
@fernandopratesi5378 3 года назад
Thanks for this! Glad to thumbs up. As a humble request - having a photo pop up of the various helos you’re talking about would be awesome :)
@leonardodivinci804
@leonardodivinci804 4 года назад
Again, another great shot of information from my favorite helicopter personality. Thanks again
@gregjohnson8859
@gregjohnson8859 4 года назад
Thanks for the informative videos! 🤙🏼
@tinchodonna
@tinchodonna 4 года назад
Hi Mischa, love your videos! Thanks! I have a doubt, why there are not 2 blade rigid rotor systems?
@scottcornwell1148
@scottcornwell1148 4 года назад
Excellent tutorial. Please keep them coming
@ddtddt8493
@ddtddt8493 4 года назад
The storage issue at times is a vital point. True that building a separate shed probably cost less than a blade replacement, but space can be an issue and the folding kit would be, as a manufacturer, my top priority. I went to a school that only could “afford” space for a two bladed but preferred the three blades option If they knew where to park her
@emiliorivera5813
@emiliorivera5813 4 года назад
Great video. Keep them coming.
@martinlanders6135
@martinlanders6135 4 года назад
Love your content from here in Ireland Pilot yellow! Never even been in a helicopter but they’re so interesting. Your videos are really informative and interesting. Why the heck would anyone want to “hate on you” in the comments 🤷‍♂️ Keep up the great work and fly safe.
@NCherokee
@NCherokee 4 года назад
I'm an airplane guy but your videos are the best If I were learning I would be looking for you. Had a chance to fly helicopters in the Army but I was afraid of the night vision requirements in the early '80s
@ballardine8984
@ballardine8984 3 года назад
This is awesome. You're the man.
@ericonline7
@ericonline7 4 года назад
Mischa, in an earlier video you briefly mentioned the Enstrom brand helicopter and I believe there was something about either the company or helicopter itself that you did not like. Would you mind elaborating on that (Enstrom does use a 3 blade system). Thank you.
@albertborraspons498
@albertborraspons498 4 года назад
Very interesting and well explained! Would be awesome to see pictures of the models you mention while you talk bout them, that's much more video editting work however... Thank you!
@kencohagen4967
@kencohagen4967 3 года назад
I’ve ridden in a Bell Jet Ranger and a Schweitzer S269C. The Bell had two rotors and the Schweitzer had three. The Bell vibrated baby when turning to the left, (if I remember correctly), but the Schweitzer was smooth when turn either way. The Schweitzer was a fun little help to ride in. The pilot had a blast flying my brother and I around, chasing cattle that were grazing a few hundred yards from the airport, but when he tried to set it on the peak of the hanger roof he let off the throttle a little too much and it almost fell into the hanger. I don’t advise trying that!
@nieljames9844
@nieljames9844 4 года назад
Thanks for a great video
@mkollander99
@mkollander99 4 года назад
Thank you for teaching in simple English
@brennanspencer260
@brennanspencer260 4 года назад
I don’t fly helicopters but I’ve been around the EC135’s quite a bit with the air part of the ambulance company I work for! Interesting info thanks
@gavingreen5600
@gavingreen5600 4 года назад
Thank you for this explanation video, I had wondered about why designers went with the different rotor configurations. I have always loved the Hughes/MD/Boeing 367/ 500. Always loved the buzz it made as opposed to the Bell rotor slap. I loved the Hughes 500 AKA civilian model 367 from first time I saw one, and my admiration for it's designers have never faded. Thank you for your videos, one can always learn something if one has an open mind.
@TimToussaint
@TimToussaint 4 года назад
Gavin Green 369, actually
@SkyCoreLLC
@SkyCoreLLC 4 года назад
Did you know Frank Robinson designed the 4 blade tail rotor for the 500?
@Dixler683
@Dixler683 4 года назад
So good. Thanks.
@shademe
@shademe 3 года назад
Thanks I always like to learn
@Edvanderbie
@Edvanderbie 2 года назад
Love the song at the end
@mehdimirza8777
@mehdimirza8777 Год назад
Excellent Explanation good service and information with education type
@milesbrown8016
@milesbrown8016 Год назад
Well explained 👌🏻
@jwbuys1
@jwbuys1 4 года назад
With more blades, i.e. 5 blade, can you reduce the length of the blades vs. 2 blades? Does either rotate slower. Is there a simple trade off on drag vs lift on number of blades to consider?
@stephen5147
@stephen5147 4 года назад
Good brief. Thanks.
@hwd7
@hwd7 3 года назад
That was very informative, thank you. Greetings from Australia 🇦🇺
@dgfunds5893
@dgfunds5893 2 года назад
good review of multi rotor benefits. well done. DG
@stufields5125
@stufields5125 4 года назад
I've balanced 2 blade helicopters down to 0.05ips. The out of balance/out of track shakes have all been 1/rev vibrations. The same ship had a relatively low 2/rev with full tanks. However when the fuel level got down around 1/2 tank the 2/rev was noticeable. I've been told that 3 bladed helicopters do not have the 2/rev but instead have a 3/rev. Higher frequency can induce shorter fatigue lives?
@mariolofaro8330
@mariolofaro8330 4 года назад
No hate here! Thanks! Great info and subject.
@brianholt3487
@brianholt3487 4 года назад
Pilot Yellow, I have flown both two and three bladed systems. The three bladed system did seem smoother and more stable to me, but from a money point of view I guess the two bladed system is more practical. Anyway, thank you for your interesting topics and great videos. Stay safe and I hope you can fly soon.
@pepperpeterpiperpickled9805
Hey Brian, what do you mean by 'practical'?
@pepperpeterpiperpickled9805
@Remain Nameless thanks mate
@pilotpeego1820
@pilotpeego1820 4 года назад
Hey Mischa, very informative video. By the way, we'll never hate on you. 😁
@wookongninja7461
@wookongninja7461 4 года назад
I went from a 2 blade to a 4 blade mod. Now no one complains when I land at night. Watch out for loss of tail rotor authority though. I needed to install 18% more tail rotor thrust.
@danparish1344
@danparish1344 5 месяцев назад
Makes sense. You need to compensate for additional rotational mass.
@frikdejongh5650
@frikdejongh5650 4 года назад
Hi, so just a question.. whats the reason for most people using the Huey for fire fighting then? I was under the impression that a Huey created more lift due to the large blade area from leading to trailing edge?
@suresh1957
@suresh1957 3 года назад
Learnt a lot !
@DavesNotHereMann
@DavesNotHereMann 4 года назад
A good breakdown but I believe you over stressed mast bumping and down played ground resonance, also the notion that with more moving parts there is that many more things to go wrong
@TransferAir
@TransferAir 4 года назад
I really would appreciate an video of you, talking / discussing with a experienced MD 500, MD-Explorer & especially with a lot of hours on the NOTAR Technology-Helicopters. Hearing about comparing a lot of topics like this here or stability, aerodynamic , etc., etc, ... This would be so interesting!. With kindest regards from Germany ✌🏼
@killerb1919
@killerb1919 4 года назад
I love this channel man I've always loved helicopters and I've always wanted to fly one I've come to realize I'm a poor mother hucker and I'm never going to be able to afford that never but at least I got a channel I can come to and learn all about them and fly ride along with you when you go thanks for that bro thank you very much keep up the good work 👍🙄🇱🇷🇱🇷🇱🇷🇱🇷🇱🇷
@Martin-hj4re
@Martin-hj4re 4 года назад
Yeah, I would have persued a helicopter pilot career in the army, but my eyes can't differ green as good as normal people can (appearantly) Don't get me wrong, I can perfectly see, but when its dark, its harder for me than for normal people :(
@Riley_1955
@Riley_1955 4 года назад
My thought exactly.
@adrianlindsay3194
@adrianlindsay3194 4 года назад
Money won't be your obstacle, you can get a student loan easily enough and go training tomorrow. Your obstacle is gaining meaningful employment after the fact if you are getting a commercial license and plan on doing it for a living. Tough to get a start is putting it mildly, it takes a certain kind of person to do it and openings are rare and highly contested, however it can be done if you are prepared to do whatever it takes. On a side note if all you want to do is learn to hover a helicopter, most people can learn to hover reasonably well with less than 10 hours which you should be able to do for 6-8 K (or even less depending on pricing in that area and the currency you are paying with) which essentially is a cheap crappy used car. Ergo if you can afford a cheap crappy used car you can learn to hover a helicopter reasonably well. If you really love them but don't want to do it for a living its not that expensive to learn how to hover. As you get older and have more spare cash available you can buy an hour or two a month to go scratch that itch whenever you feel like it too.
@ellonysman
@ellonysman 4 года назад
Oculus Rift S virtual gear, xplane or Microsoft Flight Simulator 2020 out in the fall, and a gaming pc...you can fly a lot of awesome helicopters, including Pilot Yellows Guimbal Cabri, the Epic R66T, Schweitzers, Bell 206, Bell 407, Huey's, oh and Bell 412's plus others. Be broke but at least you can play cheap!
@sharonburns4788
@sharonburns4788 4 года назад
little Q never stop learning, add to your knowledge every day and see where it takes you. One friend of mine a gas boy at a small airport and today he has his helicopter license. And a CFI.
@davidwallace5738
@davidwallace5738 4 года назад
Thank you sir
@terry12327
@terry12327 3 года назад
Would like some technical study and information on Blade folding and what G.A. types are available and cost...?
@RangerTim28
@RangerTim28 4 года назад
Hello, Just Curious, is autorotation more efficient/safer with more blades? I have never flown a helicopter, but wish to in the future. Really enjoy your videos! Thanks
@MrRexquando
@MrRexquando 4 года назад
No: Because the higher disk loading and lower inertial energy with smaller blades.
@kurtisarnold2788
@kurtisarnold2788 3 года назад
Can you talk about what "fully articulated"is all about. Also, what has changed in rotor system design from the Enstrom 3 bladed system to a more modern system like on the Cabri?
@aviatorel32
@aviatorel32 4 года назад
Mischa, great content, you should have mentioned MI-26 with 8 bladed rotor system.
@callsigncrusader9877
@callsigncrusader9877 3 года назад
And it's so damn big
@davidmason5470
@davidmason5470 3 года назад
I really enjoy this series. What is the typical lifespan of a set blades?
@smitty4321
@smitty4321 4 года назад
Love the Bell 2 blade thong slap ;)
@nks9694
@nks9694 4 года назад
Another very well presented video on some very interesting rotocraft related stuff.....very well explained too. Why anyone would want to make indignant comments towards your opinions about the various rotor systems and your thoughts for future progress in that area, is beyond me. Your videos are EXTREMELY informative. I always look forward to each one!
@sugarsdaddy1
@sugarsdaddy1 4 года назад
"3 bladed rotor system always has a blade in each QUADrant" ......... spot on bud.... spot on. glad the next generation of pilots are being trained by you. . . . .
@hisheighnessthesupremebeing
@hisheighnessthesupremebeing 4 года назад
Wrong.. It always have at least 1 blade in one of the 4 quadrats.. But you can't have a blade in each of the 4 quadrats with 3 blades..
@sugarsdaddy1
@sugarsdaddy1 4 года назад
@@hisheighnessthesupremebeing thanks tips, yea i know, it was a joke. i was quoting him.
@Johnwilkinsonofficial
@Johnwilkinsonofficial 3 года назад
whar is going on with the military ka50 where there are opposite direction spinning blades ?
@chapinburgess3220
@chapinburgess3220 3 года назад
So does this mean when you have a helicopter in whisper mode so it is making no sound from the blade is that because of having more blades?
@kevinvt4174
@kevinvt4174 4 года назад
Ok, you talk about Mass Bumping on a two bladed system but you did not mention Ground Resonance on a fully articulated system? I'm a bell guy and I like my 2 Blades, nice auto's and the Heli does not disintegrate on the pad from an unbalanced rotor system.
@MrRexquando
@MrRexquando 4 года назад
I didn't see your reply before I chimed in but more of the same. Mast bumping hasn't been a design concern in 20 years with sprague cables and flapping restraint cables (Bell 222). Statistically 2-blades are 2x safer than fully articulated heads. But always fun discussions.
@SmittySmithsonite
@SmittySmithsonite 4 года назад
The greatest benefit of a 2-bladed helicopter is, it is MUCH better than a single bladed helicopter. 😁 But, in all seriousness ... great vid Mischa. Thanks for the info.👍🍻
@nssherlock4547
@nssherlock4547 4 года назад
I know what you mean,but something to checkout,there is footage on you tube of a guy flying single bladed RC helis,on one, he had a head of a hammer where the other blade should be, it's very surprising how good the fly. He is called Nightflyyer ,video is hammerhead.from 2012 ish.
@Alucard-gt1zf
@Alucard-gt1zf 4 года назад
There's no reason why a single bladed helicopter wouldn't fly
@christianvial8481
@christianvial8481 2 года назад
Greetings from Chile , what about ground resonance ?
@stevetillson3268
@stevetillson3268 3 года назад
Just discovered your channel. Excellent! A question: 50 years ago, rearming my “C” model Huey on the tarmac in Dong Tam, South Vietnam, an Air Cav Cobra shut down nearby. First one this Huey gunship driver had ever seen up close. After suppressing my envy, noticed the Cobra’s 2-bladed system was completely void of the fly bar (or “stabilizer bar”) with all the accompanying parts & bits seen on my rotor head. From my vantage point, all I saw were 2 pushrods going directly from the swash plate to pitch change links on each blade. How does this “new” (back in ‘69) system work?
@PilotYellow
@PilotYellow 3 года назад
The stabilizer bar was removed on more modern helicopters because they found other ways to stabilize the helicopters I believe. However I’m not an expert on stabilizer bars. It’s like the old Bell 47’s have one but a jet ranger doesn’t.
@stevetillson3268
@stevetillson3268 3 года назад
@@PilotYellow Thanks for responding. If you run across information on “how”, please share.
@KingLoopie1
@KingLoopie1 4 года назад
👍 like motorcycle cc's any number is fine as long as it flies and does what I want!
@emmanuelgoldstein1918
@emmanuelgoldstein1918 2 месяца назад
Went from zero knowledge on "why" to a point of understanding. Thanks!
@bobbean4702
@bobbean4702 8 месяцев назад
definitely stability. a two blade sysyem gives you that "rocking horse' hover that you have to compensate for. Three blade is rock solid, touch the skid down on a dime
@chrismckinney9369
@chrismckinney9369 4 года назад
Do you foresee Cabri offering a folding package for the G2 just to make it more convenient for tight storage in a more narrow hanger?
@ganthrithor
@ganthrithor 2 года назад
I'm not an engineer but this seems unlikely: if you look at the way Bell 407 blades attach to the helicopter (for example) there's a rotor head structure in the middle, then an articulated blade grip assembly that retains the blades, and then at the end of that assembly you attach the blade with big pins metal pins. Fairly easy to just undo one of the pins and allow a blade to pivot around, as there's no lead-lag damper to disconnect and a readily available pivot point. On the Cabri rotor head, the blade root itself actually forms a fork that goes over the rotor head (the ring of metal that retains the blades) and bolts directly to an elastomeric bearing structure that sits on the inside edge of the rotor head. There's also a lead-lag damper attached to the trailing edge of the blade. All of these appear to be attached with conventional fasteners (which are probably installed to some specific torque- or-- even more problematic-- bolt stretch specification. These can't easily be removed or reinstalled by a pilot the way pins can be. There also appear to be little articulated weights of some kind (I don't know what they're for and older aircraft didn't seem to have them at all, maybe some kind of balance / vibration-moderating feature) on the rotor head which would conflict with the forked-part of the blades if you tried to pivot them more than 30 degrees or something-- they look like they'd be in the way.
@user-my3ff5lj6m
@user-my3ff5lj6m 3 месяца назад
Loved your simple explanation. However you didn't mention ground resonance of multi-bladed rotors.
@cstay3
@cstay3 Год назад
Can we redesign the R22 blades to fully articulated but still maintain 2 blades But no mask bumping issue?
@mikeZL3XD7029
@mikeZL3XD7029 3 года назад
Crikey, I was not aware that rotor blades were so expensive! Thanks so much for a great video.
@225degrees
@225degrees 3 года назад
last I heard there is a two year plus wait for new Bell 2129huey) blades.
@erikbunty2016
@erikbunty2016 Год назад
That three-blader also has a Finestron tail rotor, too.
@greasypetes
@greasypetes 4 года назад
What do you think about notar copters?
@michaelmyers2865
@michaelmyers2865 8 месяцев назад
No mention of ground resonance with the fully articulated system. How come?
@hemanthhs3756
@hemanthhs3756 4 года назад
Very interesting 👌
@DailypursuitNetNews
@DailypursuitNetNews 4 года назад
Thanks for this information. This answered many questions. Are you the ceo of bc helicopters?
@gamedevai
@gamedevai 4 года назад
Hi just a question is a two bladed rotor safer or easier to autorotate since the blades have more mass and might fly a bit more distance and last longer in the air? Thanks
@oystercatcher943
@oystercatcher943 4 года назад
Perry . Game Developer I think the specs show a Cabri with 3 blades has more rotor mass than a 2 blades Robinson. So you get more time to do the flare with a cabri and also more time to enter autorotation before the rotor speed drops
@superskullmaster
@superskullmaster 3 года назад
Things I learned during this video: pilots are horrible engineers (but not the other way around). 2 blade helicopters have less rotor wash interference and are actually more efficient. The main reason for adding more rotors is because 1: You can only make them so long 2: Extra blades to absorb extra power 3: less vibration. That’s pretty much it.
@Juanitux
@Juanitux 4 года назад
U.S. NAVY have a two engines and four blades UH -1 helicopters. Originaly they had one engine and two blades, they made a big improvement on those helicopters.
@robosync
@robosync 2 года назад
@Misca thank you so much for the invitation to hate! I wish more Tubers offered that up to viewers! Have you flown 4 blade helicopters and if you could do it over again would you learn on a 4 blade system instead of the squirrelly Robinson platform.
@danielbasovitch5087
@danielbasovitch5087 4 года назад
Hello, When you mention that the root of the blades can strike the Tower of the heli is it also a boom strike or is that different? In another video can you explain a RIGID HEAD such as on the BO105 that allows it to do aerobatics without the fear of a boom strike.
@DavesNotHereMann
@DavesNotHereMann 4 года назад
a boom strike is when the blade strikes the tail boom of the helicopter usually caused by excessive flapping of the blade, mast bumping is when the blade contacts the mast for instance in a low g scenario which can result in the rotor head shearing itself from the mast
@maxcaptain4407
@maxcaptain4407 4 года назад
Great info and great video. Idea for a new video if you take them. How climates affect the lift. Example: High altitude mountain and cold air compared to sea level and dense humid hot air. Also answer climate questions like: is lighter better for higher altitude; do blades matter in the climate; and does the rotor rmp matter?
@PilotYellow
@PilotYellow 4 года назад
Max Captain that’s great thanks
@kishorbalachandran3050
@kishorbalachandran3050 2 года назад
I like bell 430. But i heard that its bad helicopter to fly... Is that true? Can you explain that in any other video?
@kaidechrailama609
@kaidechrailama609 Год назад
But i like to hear two bladed helicopter's noise it gives me a kind of joy
@welliguessimwhateverusayia8533
@welliguessimwhateverusayia8533 4 года назад
Are helicopters safer then airplains? I'm a truck driver that's invested. I've though about learning to fly and in curious
@lusilk7954
@lusilk7954 4 года назад
top marks bro
@StealthElectronVIP
@StealthElectronVIP 3 года назад
I have a 6 rotor. It's great.
@triveshannaidoo8808
@triveshannaidoo8808 2 года назад
Will Hill HC50 come with blade folding kit ?
@PilotYellow
@PilotYellow 2 года назад
Yes
@kirk2767
@kirk2767 Год назад
From my time in the Navy, I assumed all helicopters had folding blades. I guess you learn something new all the time.
@colscopters
@colscopters Год назад
Great channel ive subscribed I no longer fly full size helicopters anymore its a life style change.. but I fly my huge rc 105 helicopter I guess we never leave them ..
@P222RL
@P222RL Год назад
is it possible to design a rigid 2 blade system ?
@batuhancokmar7330
@batuhancokmar7330 4 года назад
There is no "better" about either designs, its just different. 1- Strictly from lift perspective, 2-bladed systems are not inherently worse performers, they just need larger disk area to perform as good.. If physical dimensions are not the issue, 2-blade designs are actually the most aerodynamically efficient, followed closely by 3, and adding more blades subtact from efficiency. This is why there are 2 and 3-blade wind turbines, but we don't really see a 5-6-10-20 bladed wind turbines. Because so long as they are safely away from the ground, there isn't any dimensional contraints and its always better to have longer blades and have a larger disk area, than to add more blades. 2- Closely related to #1, storage advantage goes both ways.. A 2-bladed helicopter of same weight will have greater rotor diameter to retain aerodynamic efficiency. Since tail length is also proportional to rotor diameter, a 2-bladed helicopter of same weight will inherently be longer. A folding multi-blade helicopter will be comperable in width, but smaller in length to a folding 2-blade helicopter. 3- 2-blade will have unique mast bump risk, 3-blade will have ground resonance. Mast bump is pilot-induced 99% of the time, ground resonance is both pilot induced and maintenance-related. 4- A 3 blade rotor will be easier on the pilot and more stable to fly, 2 blade will be much more responsive to controls. 5- Misalignment on 2 blade is easier to notice, but that "advantage" argument goes both ways.. Is it not better to notice a problem early without symptoms getting worse? For example, if one blade has damper issues and drags just a little bit more, its not really noticable with minimal cyclic inputs, like when hovering, but it can have lethal consequences. 6- Misalignment on 2 blades is more noticable, but misalignment plane is (mostly) on a single axis on semi-rigid rotors, so easier to diagnose. On a fully-articulated system there are 3 misalignment planes. 7- Adding more rotor blades to SOME designs work, because they are done so with other constraints. Some are specifically designed for a certain rotor diameter, or started with a puny engine and upgraded along the way to a much stronger engines. Both points apply to AH-1G to AH-1J to AH-1W to AH-1Z evolution: AH-1G with 2-blade (
@midnightworrior2910
@midnightworrior2910 3 года назад
Awesome analysis. Engineers perspective.
@Grarder
@Grarder 2 года назад
Thank you! This is the kind of in-depth discussion I was looking for when I started googling.
@rcas350pilot8
@rcas350pilot8 2 года назад
Thank You, well worth my time reading.
@Treblaine
@Treblaine Год назад
Outstanding overview, I don't know why I bother watching videos when I can find gold in the comments like this.
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