Not only that but such powerful characters need half baked help and assists to go all in. While SF and Tekken can just go in without any issues. As an MK fan, it feels like an evolution while taking a few steps back
Everyone was so hyped about Invasions being a Konquest-style game mode, but there's a reason why NRS was so hush-hush about Ivasions, up until it's release. They knew it would've turned people away, and kept them from buying their shitty ass game.
Frfr they put so many characters in the game that make no sense don't even deserve to be in Mortal Kombat they were popping before they started using the characters they should bring back characters that we haven't seen in a while from mortal kombat universe😢
It kinda pisses me off. They just threw some popular character that people want to play as (Omniman, Homelander????) With a poor excuse. They're so comfortable with this stupid idea because people actually buy their game, while Tekken and SF are throwing new characters that are appealing and they ACTUALLY MAKE SENSE! Look at Reina breaking the fighting game community when she came out, or A.K.I that is a straight up fun character. NR lacks inventivity and boldness to the point I'm not feeling like playing MK anymore which is really sad.
@HousekiMita Ehhhh, in my opinion SF6 is dropping the ball with their new character releases as well. It's the first SF game where none of the new characters look cool to me. Coming from someone who found at least one new character in every SF cool, that's saying something.
yea its stupid "up block" being whats supposed to be one of the few ways out of pressure but a giant risk of getting stuck, to people actually thinking its "deep" bcuz their chara has a cyrax button now.
This is a point I don't think enough people make. He's been gone from the series for a while, but he really brought the creative soul. A lot of the stuff we love today was innovated by Tobias way back when. I'd love to learn more about his journey and his opinions on all this.
Nah WB is probably the problem. I hate how MK as a franchise became this cheap DC / Marvel wannabe rip off, instead of keeping the darker tone that it was initially rooted in.
@@prettyboyg1278 Beran is another problem. I hate that dude since MK3. Always gave me creepy vibes, and I was proven right. He's the one pushing all that woke crap.
I was so happy that you brought up the Jukebox in Tekken, it's the little things that matter, really shows that Namco respects their games legacy. NRS clearly didn't care enough about their game to rush it out in such an unfinished state. It's always a "skill issue" in the eyes of these morons when you're giving good feedback/criticism., brain-dead fanbase frfr.
Sf6 dont have jukebox either they sell u classic songs with fighter pass like its some free 2 play fortnite game. T8 is the last one standing with not being greedy
@@davidhero1000the difference is that tekken is a very legacy inspired game. Also any normal person would see that making a previously free addition paid for is stupid
It is what it is. The dishonesty of the MK community in conjunction with the corporate greed of WB in their refusal to call out the BS is why we are where we are now with this steaming hot pile of dog shit that is the Mortal Kombat franchise.
Mortal Kombat is legitimately my favourite franchise of all time. That being said I had a deeply passionate rant with my best friend about how MK1 is the first mk game I’ve ever played that I’ve genuinely been disappointed with. I like the gameplay, I enjoyed the story mode, but outside of that there’s nothing… just nothing and it’s such a shame.
Exactly how I feel about Tekken 7. The gameplay is fun and addictive, the story mode was decent enough given the shoestring budget the game was made on, but other than that... nothing. I thank the Most High every day for the gift that is Tekken 8 lol
@@qorpseyes, i always thought Tekken 7 was overrated, good gameplay, but has PS3 grafics and animations, no single player modes, only 5 stages in the arcade with a terrible "boss" fight (it's not even a boss fight, You just fight a normal Kazumi), lazy newcomers, etc. Thank god Tekken 8 looks like it's gonna be one of the greatest fighting games of all time
The writing has been on the wall since injustice 2. All of the having to be connected to the server bs started there. Every game since then has added another extreme that doesn't belong in fighting games but most players said NOTHING because they're so sweaty that all they care about is going online in kl instead of assessing the game as a complete package (yes that was a shot at ppl who use the word casual) "Oh I don't care about cosmetics and single player stuff" when we should have been standing up for it regardless and now all of that ignoring the problem has caught up to us. Ppl with channels and followers constantly acted like single player content doesn't matter because they have so much to prove to ppl they don't know on the Internet "Look at my rank" mfs, like who tf cares dude? But that mindset helped WB create a blueprint that mk players are sheep and The Discovery Group is exploiting that to make back the money they spent on WB. This game is the result of all of those things, it's a cashgrab that some of the devs obviously care about but it is what it is and business is business. Just sucks to see mk die like this.
As a 40 year old guy, who is a longtime fan of the MK series, ever since it's beginning...I can say with 100% certainty, that MK1 is the MOST disappointing MK game ever to be released. This game just lacks so much content. People online are saying MK1 was released unfinished, but I disagree. NRS knew damn well they were putting out a half-ass game, to milk us for every dime they could on microtransaction BS. MK11 had so much more (and better) customization options. Hell, even MKX was full of content, which didn't even require an online Internet connection to access. I am with ya! MK: Deception was a blast to play. So many things to do. The Konquest game was absolutely perfect. The open-world/sandbox style, the interactions with NPC's, the MK lore was mindblowing. I would literally spend hours unlocking characters, character skins, and other krypt content. The Puzzle Kombat and Chess Kombat were also something new and exciting, a long with the Death Traps. Such a better time and better game, compared to this garbage. Great video! Keep exposing this shitty game for what it is....a lackluster boring waste of time.
Playing NRS games is peak insanity MKX - This time will be different IJ2 - This time will be different MK11 - This time will be different MK1 - This time will be different
Mkx was fire. Just needed balance readjustment. Injustice 2 honestly felt incomplete as hell but could have been great. Mk11 is trash and mk1 is starting to look trash
They turned Goro into a tiny weakling. No excuses. He was Hulk-like in the past. The guy was the original most iconic boss of the franchise and still is. The way they treat him is terrible. He ought to be a challenge to beat, and HUGE. Not some just another character to take online and all balanced for "muh competitive play". Have a mode where it's boss on the boss, or treated as a handicap, but let's not have a neutered Goro.
@@xavierhouston4650 Sad thing is I actually liked Geras I thought he was an interesting character and had a cool moveset it's really sad to see him reduced that way
I love Mortal Kombat but Street Fighter 6 stole my heart after MK 1 released. I was expecting a traditional 1v1 game, expectations right? I thought they'd double down on MK 11 Krypt style but they made Invasions, the Kameos piss me off a lot because I feel it's out of place for Mortal Kombat game that's been mostly 1v1 or tag 1v1 as in MK 9 to have such a feature and I was considering getting MK 1 but now I know that I won't because Street Fighter 6 exists and I love the style of it. I also love the few videos I've seen on your channel, keep up the good content and stay strong.
In hindsight, I actually can't believe how fast I went back to SF6 after I played MK1 for a bit. I don't play FGs for the single player, so the complaints about MK's are fair, but don't really pertain to me, but I could NOT believe people defending and hyping up the 'gameplay' and art direction of MK1. For all of the imperfection it has, SF6 knocked it outta the fucking park, and I'm sure I'll be playing it alongside Tekken 8 for the next 5 or 6 years, while NRS will be on MK3 and Injustice 4, probably cutting the same or more corners.
I think it shows alot that even after being out much longer then MK1 there are always way more people playing SF6 every day on steam then MK1 even at its launch
I have 147 hours of MK1 in me and that's mostly from online play and invasions and I can honestly agree with one thing above the rest and that's the gameplay style that all the characters have - or lack thereof. If I'm fighting Johhny/Cyrax - they play one way. I'm fighting Sub/Serena - they play one way. I'm fighting Raiden/Jax - they play the same. There is a limited amount of creativity when it comes to fighting how you want. I main Lao/Darrius and that combo is fun for me because it's uncommon and I enjoy playing a certain way but that leads to a game of the opponent trying to figure me out instead of the other way around, making the game feel stale after a while. As far as the other things you talked about, I don't agree with, mainly because WB pushed this game out when it clearly wasn't ready and now, we're in a situation where they have to hurry up and wait to release the rest of the game. WB needs to shape up or just close their gaming division because they have struck gold more times than not, but when they miss, it costs millions. That's all I have. Looking forward to Tekken 8.
If the kameo system didn’t exist the freestyling in this game would be insane. But sadly that’s the route they went & the game is held back by it in my opinion. I think the game is awesome but the kameos severely hold it back
Let’s be honest, they should have just given us a new Injustice game. It’s too soon for MK1. I don’t think this game is going to have a comeback, imo MK11 was amazing because of the krypt, towers of time etc. and fax what you said about invasions
Wouldn't make any difference, it would have been an Injustice 3 rushed af as well unless the rumors are true and they changed Injustice 3 to MK1 during development, maybe Injustice 3 was relatively deep in development so it would have more features and such but I doubt it.
It’s obvious this was supposed to be Injustice 3. The air combos is the give away… why is that a thing in MK now? There are some other tell tale signs also.
@@RobocopReturnsnah the dead giveaway was the kameos. Injustice 2 had some game mode with kameo like stuff I believe. Don’t see how the air combos was the dead giveaway sway. Air combos were a thing in mk Armageddon way before the release of injustice 1 lol
I've been gaming for a long time and MK1 is the only game I've ever played that makes me angry. No other MK game has made me feel this way. Aside from the hostile community, the kameos take the fun completely out of it.
My boy refuses to admit that kameos are a problem. But hates krushing blows from the last game which most required things you needed to do to get them😭
Glad someone is vouching for 3D era MK. I adore those games, especially Deception. You're right. The ambition is gone. All that's left is corporate greed.
MK1 being a catastrophic failure that results in half of the people at NRS losing their jobs is a GOOD THING for the MK franchise as a whole. TTT2 was a huge flop for BNE and because of that we got T7 and T8. SF5 was a huge failure for Capcom (initially) and because of that we got SF6. If NRS survives WB going bankrupt and selling them off to Embracer group or Tencent or whatever and they get to make a MK game again one day in the future, the very hard lessons they learned with MK1 will HOPEFULLY result in the best MK game ever made (something that plays like MK9 but looks like MK11).
I feel ike mortal Kombat has also lost its identity, ever since mkx it feels like there are more guest characters than original characters of the mk series. This ain't super smash bros
They thought kameos would lead to so much character expression when in fact it did the opposite ,doesnt matter what character or kameo you choose combos are still limited . Followed by a safety net playstyle with kameos covering your unsafe moves this game is boring. Characters dont even have idle animations
They had that mortal kombat 9 and people were bitching about that back then. I do agree they should add it and if they really fuck with the community make kameos main roster and the main roster also be kameos interchangeably.
@@martinleyva666 People were bitching because of the lack of balancing in Tag Team, which was a valid point of criticism, especially when playing online. They wanted it to get fixed, not being removed and never revisited altogether. Just speaks volumes about the lack of risks that Netherrealm is willing to take nowadays.
Im with you. I uninstalled 4 days ago. I had so much hope for this game but eventually you have to come to terms. Unfortunately it is the state of alot of games nowadays. You have to buy it two years after it comes out
Not only will it not get fixed. I need the 100 gigs back on my damn Xbox. Every update patch they make still add more gigs and shit still doesn’t get fixed!!
10:40 If you were to touch grass, that would actually make the issue WORSE, not better! Because then it would take even LONGER to get what you actually want, and realistically makes it unachievable. If it's a tedious grind whether you do all nighters or you touch grass, then it seems to be a fundamental design issue and like the game just doesn't respect the time of those who play on a casual OR hardcore basis, in equal measure
The PS2 era Mortal Kombat games had the peak music of the entire series. I don't know why they've had ambient background music since then. Hell even MK3 and MK4 had amazing tracks! The Prison in MK4, the Chapel in MK3? Nothing in MKX, 11, or 1 come even close.
Well said, Mike. You missed one thing that I have a huge gripe about. How is the PC version so poorly developed in comparison to the PS5 version. I know that the Xbox and Playstation versions were lead platforms and the PC version was developed again by High Voltage but there are combos that work on the console versions that don't on PC and vice versa.
I love the game but the kameo system severely holds it back in my opinion. They don’t add any depth just more pointless gimmicks that interrupt flow of battle. They should’ve brought back hop attacks and more launcher strings or strings in general. Those strings lead up to air combos would’ve been sick
There are so many combo routes and the kameos add that versatility. At some point in every fighting game at the highest level combo variety is avoided in order to use optimal to win. I seriously don't understand how people are saying there aren't different combo routes.
Mortal Kombat is what happens when you have a fighting game made by people who don't play fighting games. They try to reinvent the wheel because they don't have a frame of reference. That's why everything feels "off" and doesn't work like it should.
Anyone with 2 working brain cells could see from just the first reveal, that Invasions was a tacked on mode put together at the last minute, probably from some mobile game prototype. It looked like shit from the get go. But even then, there were lots of positive and shilling comments on youtube and twitter. Even if vast majority were bots and shill accounts, lots of people were hyped for that trash. Can't understand how
main problem for me is the physics, animations and sound as an overall package. they knock each other flying with tiny taps like they're all god like super-men and most animations like getting back up off the ground are just way to fast it looks unnatural like programmed A.I not people.and in contrast to the unnaturally fast animations jumps are super floaty making movement and overall pacing/flow of the game all over the place, its a physical mess. and having huge crunching SFX with smaller attacks does not help and just makes the overpowered superhero physics even worse. MK9 did not have this problem and had good weight/flow and natural martial arts SFX not car crash SFX with every dam hit. There are many other problems like ugly designs and lack of the classic MK dark gritty vibe and terrible online and no features but none of that really matters when the core mechanics/flow of the game is so Jank
I'm pretty new to the fighting game genre but I must say I agree with a lot you said. All that is left to Mk is a shadow of it's former self. That is what I can say after playing older Mk games. I played through invasions and it wasn't really fun. The story is pretty nice for mk standards and as a PC player desyncs are not really an issue. The real problem for me is the gameplay mechanics that actually defeat the purpose of playing like the balancing of kameos and the implementation. I'm gonna check out Tekken soon, maybe buy it to seehow it feels. Keep doing what you are doing.
I had a bad feeling about MK1 when I saw the Kameo system, so I didn't pre-order the big boy version that I always buy for every fighting game I play. I held out until the recent sale and got the ultimate version for $60 or whatever. I was very mad when I saw that I still couldn't use Shang Tsung and they wanted me to buy him separate. I know he was a pre-order bonus, but c'mon. You pay over $100 at launch for ultimate, I think he should be thrown in there too. In a game with such crazy monetization it doesn't surprise me at all though. There are tons of people on the r/MortalKombat subreddit defending everything WB does and it's really disheartening. They don't understand that most of us would love to unlock all the skins/gear by playing the game. I could feel much better playing this lackluster Invasion mode knowing I'm saving money at least. I know you can earn currency to buy stuff, but there's no way you can unlock everything as some things are locked to a certain currency that's real money only(as of this writing). I have zero faith in WB now to give us a good Injustice 3. I can already see the writing on the wall for the Suicide Squad game too. It will be another Avengers/Anthem and quickly die. It's a shame that MK has declined when MKX was pretty great, and even MK11 was MUCH better than this game to me. I main Shao Kahn and Baraka, and they aren't half as great as they were. Especially Shao Kahn. Liu Kang is lucky the whole cast of MK11 didn't come through a portal, because they would wash the MK1 roster lol. Don't get me wrong, I'm glad some characters have finally returned, but for me the Kameo system is a blessing and a curse because I would much rather play as all those characters. Goro especially. Anyway man, great video and I agree with you on everything. I have subscribed and liked. At least we have Tekken 8 soon! I'm a King main since 1994 and VERY happy.
I bought Shang Tsung & Omni-Man separately after the pre-order, and I can't select them. They need to fix that issue. Until they do, I'm not spending any more of my money. I'm looking to Tekken 8 next week. 30th Anniversary this year. September 21st, 1994.
@@terrelltownsend8016 If it's anything like the past few games, it's all separate files on the HDD. If you're on Xbox, hit start button when you highlight the game, then select manage game and add-ons then install those two files. They should be a box with a check mark next to them. Do that for all dlc for this and any other NRS game moving forward. It should work after that, hope I helped somewhat.
I'm so happy to see someone with a following saying this. It seems mk creators just accept the garbage given to us. Bad story Bad writing/dialogue Bad gameplay/Bad balance No minigames Barebones unlockables Bad network systems No crossplay No QoL features like online training or searching for matches while playing other modes. Restrictive gameplay even though their main selling point during mk1's marketing period was player expression. Lastly, it feels like only a few characters are fully designed and given fleshed out play-styles/gimmicks & mechanics while the rest of the roster is just watered down typical NRS slop recycled from past games but with a prettier graphical packaging. Honestly i can't believe NRS gets away with this nonsense just because people want to see their favourite pop culture characters be in a fighting game so they buy it up.
Idk bout y’all.. but I don’t like the whole colour palette system. Why can’t I just pick the colour I want AFTER picking the character?? (Like every other fighting game) Why do I have to set this up in a whole other menu BEFORE picking my character..? 🤦🏾♂️
What turned me off to MK was the Character DLC. They didn't bring back any old characters instead we got Jason, Leatherface, The Joker, the Terminator and so on. When they added Robocop it reminded me of when WCW was basically dead and they had a wrestler walk to the ring as Robocop.
As a fan of both Tekken & MK1, i'm really sad as to what ia happening to MK ☹️ i really hope NRS does better. I want to see both of my favorite fighting games thrive ✨👊💥🐉
They won't because they don't know how to without money. WB is in so much debt that they decided to milk MK1 as much as possible. There is no money for them. NRS has never had a good launch of their games ever. The games have always been full of bugs at launch and then to make it worse, everything that is considered op is nerfed to the ground. No reason to grind this game. Oh wait you can unlock cover art. What a joke. Can't wait for tekken 8
Ive been on boons case about the shit music in recent games for ages. The reason why its crap, rather than going for something catchy and hype; they choose to have movie scores. Its why the music is just not memorable. The kind of music you hear in films in dramatic moments. mk1 killed my passion and im going into tekken 8 hype for it as the demo sold it for me.
Honestly your critique on expressions is true, and I notice this especially for mortal combat. Like in street fighter, if you trip blanka he does a back flip to get back up and if you trip ryu he does a kip up to get back up. It looks less robotic and actually makes sense. While in mk games, you trip Superman who is flying and he gets back up the same way you trip Jax. It just looks very robotic. There is no personality behind there movements. Like there kick/punches look all the same. For example, would Spider-Man throw a punch the same way an old man throws a punch? In MK, the answer is yes. There is no personality and it just looks oddly robotic.
You brought a very legit point One of the coolest aspects of fighting games is the possibility of playing your character whatever you want no matter of his established archetype You can use Ryo Sakazaki or Kyo and act like a grappler You can use Ryu or Mitsurugi and act like a rush character Or use King or Zangief as a footsie character This is why there are so many Players who can use the same character and still have four or five different version of Ryu But in mortal kombat this never happened since the 1992 Scorpion is the same teleporting dude and jax still do the same command grab bullshit They tried to do something different with the style choice in X but apparently seemed too complicated for mk fans
the biggest problem in traditional fighting games not just mk1 is just the playstyles in neutral and punish game is not very freeflow freeform unlike platfrom fighters because there's always a playstyle a gameplan or a archetype moves that is the only correct way by default and you're fucked if you try to do otherwise that's why i love competitive platfrom fighters thanks to freeform movement (sometimes) and other stuff every character with the same playstyles and archetypes they at least play differently or you can have a different playstyle like you can play mario and sonic as a agressive rushdown characters play ori and olympia in rivals of aether as zoners heck you can play caspian and cassidy 2 rushdown characters in brawlhalla as swordies (footsie based characters for platfrom fighters) heck you can play as a grapple based playstyle with melee fox and falco edit: there's a comment version just so you know mk1's lack of freedom in your playstyle is not it's only problem is also many other traditional fighter's isssue
Okay, in regards to MK1's story, what exactly is the point of anything that's happening? Not only from a narrative standpoint, but from a meta one too. MK1 was supposed to be a "new" start to things. But every problem solves itself and everyone is almost a carbon copy of their original counterpart with only surface level changes. (Except Tanya, who was made different but also really ugly for some reason) Shang Tsung is still just Shang Tsung. Quan Chi, is still Quan Chi. Johnny Cage is still Johnny Cage. Heck, Ermac might as well have been copy pasted. It feels like the story is so afraid to try anything new beyond 'member berries or references to what they were. With many characters feeling like either downgrades or just painfully wasted potential. (Looking at you Baraka and the Tarkat rebellion) Meanwhile, games like Street Fighter 6 move forward with both a new identity, tone and new characters. Which leads me to my other point; being that with the introduction of infinite branching timelines, nothing that happens in MK matters anymore. What difference does it make if we beat Titan Shang Tsung at the end when there is an infinite number of variants of not just him, but EVERY character who can come into the timeline at any point. Not that there was ever even a feeling of the good guys maybe losing, but what did it matter if they even did? Even in the end of the Story Mode, we can play as another variant of Titan Lui Kang. I'm just trying to figure out if there are any stakes involved in this anymore.
Great video as always man. Too bad MK1's fans don't realize that praising mediocrity and rushed games just perpetuate these practices. Look at Street Fighter, Tekken, Granblue, Dragon Ball Fighters and other fighting games. All of these games either improved drastically in their sequel or got huge quality of life changes years after their releases and most likely will get siginificantly better when their sequels come out. Then you look at MK1 and you have to wonder why the best selling fighting game of all time is so bare bones? You can blame WB all you want but if people voice their opinions with their pockets and word-to-mouth maybe something can change instead of just praising these terrible practices and mediocrity from NRS. Keep up the good work!
True. Tekkens story is inspiring. Harada had to BEG for a AA budget for T7. You see the money from 7s success all over T8. Insane character models, all new Mocap, high budget story, cross play, extensive lobby system that can host multiple matches in a room, Tekken Ball, much improved OST, and something resembling Tekken Force they havent shown yet. It's not perfect and some of the default outfits are a miss, some a few with mid voice acting, but you've also got four defaults you can customize along with general customization.
@@Yalbou During the Midway Era and the early NRS era they always had passion and care put into MK almost each and evey game had something cool satisfying amazing and zaney offer from its gameplay system, its roster down to content music and story
It hurts so bad that my favorite game of all times cost 70+ dollars and gameplay, code, modes, skins and modifiers are such garbage. I hate it, but hate it from a place of loving the franchise.
Since the game's release all it's been is: Chip damage: Unavoidable loss of 20% of your life for doing what you're supposed to. If you don't block, you lose 50% of your health so you HAVE to sit there and block. Plus frames: Characters can constantly stagger or do things with no real consequence by calling in kameos to rob you of your well-earned turn. They can also do moves that have high reward with no risk since they're either safe or plus frames. Against some characters, you can't get your turn back without spending resources which is stupid on all levels considering you need them to win games or simply avoid losing games. Vortexes: Using the kameos to make a combo guaranteed or extremely hard to block. Throw the Lao hat down and do an overhead so they have to choose between blocking high or low, but if they think the low is hitting first, they get hit with the overhead and vice versa. Have Jax pound the ground to guarantee a launch so I can get a guaranteed combo and if they jump to avoid it, they'll still be falling into my attack. Let me just throw Stryker out during my turn and if my opponent tries to do anything, I can punish them. If they do nothing, well then, it's still my turn. The kameo system makes the game unplayable. The characters have too many broken systems about them which makes it infuriating to fight against. Then, sometimes with stable connection, the game still suffers from connection issues or disconnects altogether. They nerf one kameo and one character for a resaon and allow all the other characters to exist for the same reasons. Mileena got nerfed for her insane damage with Scorpion yet Li Mei is out here with Scorpion dealing 50+ and 45+ with just one kameo and one bar. They nerfed the Lao hat cause it made everything plus 2 yet Stryker and Kano are out here doing the same thing. 2 months later and still no real changes to gameplay, but they always got something in the store. I just uninstalled and decided to devote my time and effort to something else.
@phongvn18 I do a little bit. The most I'll do is set up and Frost freeze orb, but I try my best to stay away from playing cancerous. It's not fun. It's not mentally stimulating or demanding. It's not fair. If you block what I do, you deserve a chance to fight back. If my opponent is sitting there blocking my strings, I'm not gonna keep staggering them or using kameos to keep me safe. I'm not going to do crazy combos or specials that, when on block, deal 20% of damage in chip. It's bullshit. Do I still win games? absolutely. Is it fun? F*** no! I could grind to God, but I'm perfectly fine with getting to Demi-God and logging off. Except this time, it's a little bit more permanent until they at least fix the kameo system.
You might not remember my name mike, but I was watching you a few years ago when tou were making this exact kind of content about mk11. I don't mean to sound pretentious, but it blows my mind that people were expecting any better from mk1 when NRS has really given us no reason to. It almost seems to me like the mk series is just suffering an identity crisis; it feels like every game they make now is just loaded with gimmiks that completely ruin it. The moment I heard about kameos in mk1, I knew they were going to ruin the game; assist fighters like Marvel vs Capcom are an entite other genre that require finely tuned balancing, and you cant just slap those kinds of mechanics haphazardly onto a completely traditional fighter like Mortal Kombat without opening the world's largest can of worms.
@@ryler7 yeah I don't really know much about that series, my point was just that it's like a completely different style of game. It would be like if NRS decided to add platform fighter mechanics to their next injustice game. Like yeah maybe an extremely talented studio could make that work, but it would be a far better idea to just hone in on the core mechanics of the franchise.
21:07 THANK YOU! I always thought the whole kameo tag team thing was freakin stupid! Like bruh why can’t I just 1 v 1 and none of this GIMMICKY bs!!? 🤦🏾♂️ I thought I was the only one.
really wish there was counter hit effects or advantages like how in tekken if u hit fengs b1 its whatever but if it counter hits you get a kd into a shoulder or if your at a wall you fet a full combo would add more depth imo
I actually thought MK1’s story was pretty good overall, but every other design decision is so anti-player. Invasions is insufferable to play, masteries are a tedious grind, all the good cosmetics are in the premium store, the game gives you almost no crystals and basically forces you to pay for them, DLC characters being in the story fully complete yet locked behind paywalls, etc. NRS doesn’t care about their fans anymore
Was there a visual indicator for throws in mk11? I don’t remember there being one and you still had to press the appropriate button to tech back or forward throw
When the point about lacking character expression came up, I instantly went to how literally every Shang Tsung player does that same hit into rising fireball loop combo, or that Omni-Man air combo that was cool like the first 3 times I saw it but got more stale each time, or every Liu/Scorpion/Sub/Smoke fishing for that double launcher. I'm especially disappointed with Shang because the introduction of his Zeku mechanic had me curious about what crazy plays might take place in the competitive scene, only to be bored out of my mind by that same combo. Sucks that I can't look at a specific playstyle and go, "oh shit, _____ puttin in work"
Optimals are rewarded with higher damage why would anyone do a different combo if it does no damage. The game has so manny different routes thanks to the cameos. You can do them, but everyone looks up youtube combos and wonders why kombat league looks stale. Hit the lab yourself and look at the characters tool kit.
I agree with you on this point: the limit of expression of the player, at the beginning I thought that the game would be fun and varied but at one point even seeing the tournament videos disgusted me and that's where I I understood the problem, all the matches are the same, everyone plays the same, when you return to the game you don't have a problem, these are sad to see, how in a fighting game there is only one style of viable play per character it's all simply ridiculous
I think it's fine that people enjoy the game, I just wish they would be more honest about it. If you go to an NRS content creator's comment section the ppl commenting pretend like the literal game breaking bugs and glitches the game had on release were "no biggie." "This is fine." They will do mental jumping jacks to overlook every shortcoming the game has, no wifi/ping filter, no lobby system, on PC not even a functional KOTH lobby etc... and insist that none of that matters and none of it is a legitimate reason to dislike the game. I have never seen levels of copium this high from a gaming community about their game. Can they not just admit "I really like Mortal Kombat and I will play anything titled Mortal Kombat no matter how bad it is." ?? That would be honest at least.
Damn, +1 for the SoulCal 5 drop. One of the most underrated fighting games ever. Old school SoulCal and Tekken both allowed for a lot of expression and different types of playstyles. I miss it.
@@Landonio Literally every Soul Calibur game dies a month after it drops. Then people pretend to like them years later even though they never played them once.
You mentioned the exact thing I was thinking that the game lacks a way to express yourself. In mk11 I spent months building my Shao up from watching top players like VGY and you could really implement your own play style. Where's the wave dash, shao's down 4 and nice big sweep and lunge kick? its like here is how the character plays and that's how your going to approach playing the game and pick a cameo so you can add depth, and that's about it. I feel they took a step back instead of forward. With the time it took for mk1 it should of been amazing.
@@asdfdc1946Yeah I hated that wave dash shit. Block forward dash block forward dash block forward dash etc. Shit was stupid, just add a goddamn run button.
So I wasn't the only one who found projectiles in MK just phasing through each other to be odd. I also wish this legacy gameplay feature was dropped as it simply made no sense to me.
That's more difficult to do in practice given the nature a many NRS char projectiles. How exactly do you make something like Kano's beam clash with Cassie's gun shots?
@@ryler7 We talking strictly clashing? If you want to make the beam and bullet cancel each other out, apply a collision model or effect the way you would see some beams have when hitting a wall or the ground. When bullet and beam collide, the bullet does a little explosion, and the beam dissipates. Otherwise, the beam simply destroys the bullet and hits Cassie. Figure out the balance around that. Most projectiles are standard fireballs anyways, so typical projectile clashing will apply.
@@AegisKHAOS In the case of beam vs bullets, the beam has always been more like a Kamehameha than a simply ki blast in terms of it's length. Also, many NRS char projectiles do varying amounts multi hits. Making them clash is easier said than done.
@@ryler7 So change the beam to behave like an optic blast, so clashing is possible. Otherwise, just have the beam destroy the opposing projectile. That is literally what other fighting games like KI have done in a beam vs projectile scenario. And I don't see how multi hitting projectiles have anything to do with clashing. Other fighting games like SF6 literally have both multi hitting projectiles and multiple projectiles. They clash with each other just fine.
Ever since Mortal Kombat officially fell under the WB umbrella, MK has been trying to do this bizarre act of trying stay on the forefront of pushing content boundaries while also trying to appeal to normies with this MCU pantomime.
Listening to the Kombat Kast gave me the impression that invasion mode was a sort of mini-RPG free-roam mode where you actually found loot and had organic encounters.
I dipped out of playing the games after X, but still kept an eye on the story since then. Lore and character growth being a couple of the reasons why. I'd find myself hesitant to play since things seemed off. I hate to say I'm vindicated yet again. I still listen to Immortal from way back in pre-time nuttery and the Deadly Alliance Character Select theme. Music still holds up even now.
Never thought I'd see the day that I'd be looking forward to a Tekken game but here I am. The most intriguing thing that I'm looking forward to experiencing, is the Ghost AI technology that actually learns you by fighting you. Could be revolutionary in the fighting game genre if that goes off without a hitch. NRS on the other hand can't even make Motaro function as a playable character because they can't figure out how to animate a creature with four legs😂(their words btw, not mine). So is it any wonder why their games (mechanically) have regressed over the last 13 years? Sometimes you don't get better with age. Time to hand the reigns over to a younger, fresher studio. I've seen what they have working at NRS thanks to that 30th anniversary "thank you" video and...yikes😢. Capcom and Bandai are embracing creativity and innovation, while NRS has embraced cheesiness and mediocrity.
they had a good thing going with their 3d beat em ups armageddon and shaolin monks. Too bad they completely dropped beat em ups I honestly think it was a good system to have your main fighting game and then make a fun little beat em up adventure mode to unlock all the cosmetics
My main issue with MK11/1 was always the animation. I gave the animation a pass in 9nX because looking realistic wasn't the aim with those. But these games it looks rough. and I wish that was my only issue. But with MK1 it's just disappointment after disappointment 😞
Motar Kombat was amazing too, theres literally not shit to do in MK1 but the same kombat and desync league, not even finna get into the ass customizations, I love Mk but I’m just so ready for tekken atp
3:11 Not to mention the god awful boss gimmicks and survive missions. In the most recent season which is geared towards Mileena (but was clearly meant to be Havik’s season based on the skins) there is a gimmick in the mileena FINAL BOSS where she disappears and throws a bunch of sais at you and have to dodge them but she throws like three of them across the screen at once and they pin you down and delete your health, and then if you’re lucky enough to survive she armors through everything and kills you. And you have to REPEAT THIS 3 WHOLE TIMES. The bosses have gotten worse every season and i doubt they’ll get better because they don’t make them any money.
They need to bring back the character creator. Not saying I hate the skins keep them but I want my own warrior and allow us to create more than one. Maybe 3 slots like how 11 had 3 slots, but that feature needs to come back.
to be fair, when there's something called kombat kast which revolves around 3 middle aged men one of which is wearing a dress, same dress since mk11. and 2 others who are strangely obsessed with birthday shout outs. the outcome of that will always be horrible.
I'm sorry, but Mortal Kombat over the years has just been mid for a long while including X. Even though I've loved each of the recent games because of their different gameplay mechanics, it doesn't excuse how boring they are. X was a good start before the falling grace; however, I didn't much like the Kombat Kids as much and the ridiculous main character OC syndrome during the entire story. The DLC for X was fine, but the gameplay was repetitive. This also goes along with Mk11 and Mk1 with the story, gameplay, and DLC. The only difference with each of those games is the core mechanics and gamemodes. MkX had the sprint meter, Mk11 had the wake-up meter and fatal blow, and Mk1 has the Assist combo meter. Gamemodes have definitely been a factor for the entertainment on the game, but they've just been increasingly lackluster in each title. The ONLY gamemode I personally enjoy was the Krypt where I could spend my earned Koins on cosmetics I want. I wish Mk1 had the Krypt instead of the dragon shrine..and speaking of getting cosmetics. Microtransactions has definitely infected the game with ludicrous marketing decisions over online connection experience over the years. I wish NRS does better with Mk1 in the future, as they said it'll be worked on longer than Mk11 (Unless that's just from their ass.) Ultimately, WB needs to do better as well with handling marketing for the game. Praying that Tekken 8 will be my saving grace from this terrible MK year. 🙏
Developers that make fighting games normally focus on what's more important, which would be the net code, characters, and balance, because the majority of the community usually play fighting games to compete, not so much for casual content, some make like casual content, but most don't, it's like the reality of it.
All these clowns crying trying to defend this trash ass game will find out real soon that mk is done. 2 games in a row they mess up. They even messed up so bad they bypassed Injustice 3 thinking rushing out an mk will solve all their problems. Even if they break away from wb I'm still done with mk...
Great video. The last MK I bought was X which I really enjoyed as a whole ass video game. After MK 11 dropped I decided to keep my money in my wallet because anyone can tell the quality of these game are going downhill. Hope mk1 would prove me wrong but here we are 😅
Do you guys think Tekken 8 is difficult to learn for people like me, who don't really play fighting games often? I'm planing on playing this season of MK1 and then maybe pause. I'm currently at Grandmaster which I have been the 2 seasons before too, but now I wanna get to demigod and leave it there, I think that's the highest I can get. I'm kinda stressed out from Kombat League and tired of live blocking tutorials agains Johnny spam, Kameo spam etc. So I'm really interested in Tekken, but not sure if I should get it. Last Tekken I played a lot was Tekken 3 on PS1 😅
It's a great time to get into Tekken to be honest. The game has so many things in place to help newcomers and even though the community as a lot of elitists in it, I think more of them have realised that it's better to be a bit more welcoming to newcomers, so I'd say jump in. There's so many different training options available now in the game, you'll be fine.
@@RealMikeHollow thanks for the response, that sounds good. I'm usually not good at creating combos myself, but I'm sure I'll get into it. I already found some characters I'm interested in and of course the basics 😅
Just to add my 2 cents: TEKKEN is one of the easiest and most fun to get into, really hard to get good at. Press a random combination of buttons and something cool will happen that you can have fun with. And Tekken 8 has the most learning and training tools of any Tekken ever so, no need to panic. Not that it adds weight to my statement but I've got 2500 hrs + in Tekken 7.
