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Why Most Kicks Don't Work 

Alfonso Muchacho
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There are 2 main mistake people make when choosing and processing kick drums, here are the solutions.......
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@by_antony
@by_antony 11 месяцев назад
Wow, dude! You are really explaining things in layman's terms. I super appreciate it. I see so many tutorials on youtube about how to EQ this and that, or how to mix X and Y together, but you have explained with audible examples exactly what IT is. I salute you. More like this please. I have been producing EDM for about 2 years and feel I have learned more from you in 5 mins than most other RU-vid tutorials/explanations.
@sour412music
@sour412music 11 месяцев назад
This why I don’t watch too many of these. But usually get confirmation of what I’ve been doing.
@joost5075
@joost5075 11 месяцев назад
Fully agree !
@sour412music
@sour412music 10 месяцев назад
This just me but if you just turn the knobs and experiment you’ll figure this stuff out lot faster than endless hours o. Yt
@sour412music
@sour412music 10 месяцев назад
In 00 we had no vids only manuals and I wasn’t reading all that shit
@shummers
@shummers 8 месяцев назад
Most youtubers who make music production content are trying to sell you a product of some sort, so that makes sense. Like he explains in the video, people want you to buy beats and sample packs and presets that sound good already, which motivates people to conceal their knowledge to encourage people to purchase their products instead, and when those samples are bad, they go searching for more packs and so on. I've just been learning how to make the samples myself at this point because I hate the malicious music production industry. There's always a promo code, or a brand deal, or a sample pack, or a course, or whatever being marketed in almost every production video. It's so frustrating, and I feel bad for people who don't break out of that cycle of just buying more beats and sample packs hoping to eventually find the perfect thing, instead of learning how to DIY it. At best, you're going to make generic sounding music anyway. What pisses me off the most is when I see the "Secret formula to ____" videos, and it's usually just a sample pack sales pitch, and like... if you know the "secret formula" then why are you on RU-vid selling packs instead of climbing the charts? It's just so obvious to me at this point.
@johnymst
@johnymst 11 месяцев назад
I played my track on a big club system this weekend and noticed it sounded much more boomy than the other professional songs I was playing and this was exactly the issue you explained. I always throw a processed kick from a "good" sample pack and think that's it. I will now work more on my kicks - so happy I found this video!
@fxsurgeon1
@fxsurgeon1 10 месяцев назад
Get a track that has a kick you love, put your kick on top and flick between the two until to understand the anatomy of the kick you love. Then you can further apply processing to get it to sound just as good
@Timmy_with_CTRL
@Timmy_with_CTRL 8 месяцев назад
Thank you for spitting some actual facts. Thats why the "cut itself" funktion in fl studio is so essential. Which even has a click compensation for not just putting those sounds back to back. But also i work on length belly and sustain always from pretty quite of the beginning i started producing. I came across so many people who might have some good feel for melodies or so but never understood how sound waves actually work. To all those guys: please dont just make music. LEARN how to make music. There is so much theory to it. And get a decent pair of headphones which give you abilities tonlisten very closely. One other hint to that is up to like 80-90 hertz waves should be felt not but not heard ;)
@RaveyDavey
@RaveyDavey 4 месяца назад
I think that could very easily be right though. That's what a lot of successful producers do - they have a handful of kicks, from sample packs that they use, with little or no further processing.
@kylecarvelle
@kylecarvelle Год назад
Wow. wow. You just saved my album man. This is such a no brainer and yet every single song on this project had kicks with long ass tails - and my mastering engineer kept telling me I had a bunch of competing low end frequencies and I was struggling to figure out what he meant. THIS IS WHAT HE MEANT. THANK YOU
@uniunissa
@uniunissa 10 месяцев назад
Ive been watching lots of tutorials about "mixing kick and bass", "getting punchier kicks". "kick secret of the pros" etc which are usually gimmicky and lead to sales pitch of the channels sample packs etc, but this tutorial gave helpful advice. I've been struggling often with boomy low end and I found useful things to remember when selecting kicks. This video is a gem for producers navigating in this sample pack and "easy kick trick tutorial" filled space of learning music production. Thank you so much!
@siunfound
@siunfound 10 месяцев назад
There's plenty of artists that use big booming kicks with long tails in their tracks and they sound great, so I wouldn't necessarily avoid using them. The trick is to ensure the other elements of the track don't incorporate a lot of low end frequencies that clash with the kick, which can be challenging to get right. But I do see where you're coming from, it's easier to create space with a short snappy kick. Nevertheless, mastering both techniques is hugely beneficial. Booming kicks sound ace on a big system, but tread carefully in the production process.
@BoyXx76
@BoyXx76 9 месяцев назад
couldn't agree more - it's almost trendy to say "big boomy kicks suck"...
@jorriffhdhtrsegg
@jorriffhdhtrsegg 9 месяцев назад
Its the tempo and rhythm that determine it for me. In other words, how soon is the next kick? Is the song 60bpm or 180bpm? Is it 1/4 notes or does it have 16th notes. Oh, and some songs are meant to be a bit of an overload noisy low end, perhaps not featuring a lot of bass (some have no bass!) where kick needs to fill in.
@_OHEN
@_OHEN Час назад
ok sample bot, or chatgpt.
@HobbieOne
@HobbieOne 9 месяцев назад
One of the best tutorial that i've ever seen 🏆. Most beatmaker, include myself, given me the tought that most people try to go to college before they go to elementary school! Crazy. We always try to paid the best "drums kit", applying eq, comp or clippers, pending hours before doing the super-simple but most important thing to do, like cutting the tail of our sample drums for resolve the problem. I've been trying to find the errors in my mixes for years, i'm talking about the distorsion on the master but they weren't in the mixes 🤦‍♂man... Thanks a lot Alfonso Muchacho for the gems... the real ones!
@PeterAse
@PeterAse Месяц назад
I like how you explain everything so calmly and clear, this is incredibly useful information - Thank you!
@R3BBiT
@R3BBiT Год назад
That double kick thing in clubs is something I wish I knew sooner 😭😂 Golden tips right here!
@djovercut
@djovercut Год назад
I've definitely noticed it before but never "thought" about it until now. I thought it was a F'd up club system sometimes, or the DJ.
@henriquematias1986
@henriquematias1986 Год назад
What double kick thing?
@lavenderllamamusic
@lavenderllamamusic Год назад
@@henriquematias1986 he briefly mentions it at 4:17
@tcmusic917
@tcmusic917 Год назад
by far one of the most informative videos on production, thank you
@destroy_television
@destroy_television 11 месяцев назад
Good god.. If only this guy saw all the tutorials I've seen over the years. This video is great. Very well explained. 👏
@germangrade
@germangrade Год назад
THIS is the best tutorial/video about kickdrums i've ever seen Nice work mate!
@lundsweden
@lundsweden 11 месяцев назад
I definitely agree that rolling off the top of the kick usually makes it sit better in the mix.
@Solanaar
@Solanaar 11 месяцев назад
I'm delighted by this. I perceive many "tutorials" as very exhausting. Usually you find out sooner or later they are sponsored or wanna sell you a pack or lessons. This was straight to the point and explained VISUALLY. another thing I like! Yes, trust your ears but as a visual learner this helped me so much more. Other stuff: I like that you say you use "this kick a lot", implying that you don't need to pick a different kick for each song. I learned this the hard way. After 5 years I have my favourites and only when they don't fit I look for something else. I like how you explain how this affects a club environment. Somehow when others talk about cutting the lows and stuff i don't really care but this made me really care for how it affects the club. I think it was the great example. Youre not a RU-vidr. Somehow that made it better cause it didn't feel so "youtubery", more conversational, between teacher and student. Ye, great video. Now I don't feel bad that I mainly use one kick, cause it sounds great. Now I also understand WHY. it's short, punchy, but clean, no unnecessary information or beautification. Thanks for that
@lexmusiclab
@lexmusiclab 9 месяцев назад
yeah I agree, once I find a dope kick that works well for one genre, I usually use the same one for that genre over and over, maybe editing it a bit to make it have a bit of unique flavor for the track in question
@DanielSamulewiczXXI
@DanielSamulewiczXXI 2 месяца назад
Greatly explained, Alfonso! This is one of my few best lessons on kick. Thank you!
@MrMarcLaflamme
@MrMarcLaflamme 11 месяцев назад
The end part of this has some good info which is often overlooked. If you listen to the full track/beat whatever you have when filtering out unwanted info from your samples, you can hear it in context which is how every single person who listens to the finished product hears it. Yeah, filtering the top end out of the kick when in solo makes it sound like muffled crap but when you play everything else along with it you don't hear that. Filter or eq out information when everything else is playing until you can audibly hear a difference, then you know you've gone too far. It's surprising how much information can be cut out before we notice it but this helps tremendously down the line in mixing and mastering. Great video!
@thomas_rellum
@thomas_rellum 2 года назад
Thank you for your knowledge!
@owenkitto27
@owenkitto27 9 месяцев назад
10/10 for the video I found this late at night and then spent hours yesterday trying to find this video. I have now saved the link to my inbox 😊
@wickedwaiata2939
@wickedwaiata2939 10 месяцев назад
One of the most valuable lessons for beginners like me! Salute Alfonso
@jennisonb37
@jennisonb37 9 месяцев назад
Great video, thank you for posting this. This will change the way I build my drums in all my tracks going forward.
@khkx450
@khkx450 5 месяцев назад
This was incredible man. Thank you!
@skyboundzoo
@skyboundzoo Год назад
this is SUPER helpful - im not a techno/edm producer persay even though our genres arent the same, the knowledge is universal!!!!! best video ive seen on the topic so far
@zenguy7711
@zenguy7711 3 месяца назад
Thank you, brilliant, straightforward information!
@garymedia7551
@garymedia7551 11 месяцев назад
You're making really good sense here, man. I've been finding that the shorter the better with kicks, too.
@Kakadiho3
@Kakadiho3 7 месяцев назад
Thanks Alot That's The Best Video I've Watched Ever🙏🙏🙏
@seangunn3079
@seangunn3079 10 месяцев назад
What a concise and well explained video. Thanks!!!
@MrMeecles
@MrMeecles Год назад
Nice video man Among live drummers there's a similar thing where the tempo of the song determines how much muffling we use in the kick Every kick we do could be massive wide and open but it would just clutter things up too much for the band
@Keifer-D
@Keifer-D 10 месяцев назад
Yeah. Now that’s why drummers have a pillow in the kick drum. Makes sense now! 👍
@els1f
@els1f 9 месяцев назад
Like the clicky death metal kick😋 can't have a lot of slow moving waves when you're plowing through 32nd notes lol
@robinminkster
@robinminkster 8 месяцев назад
Life changing stuff! Thank youuuuuuu🎶😎🎶😎💚🎶🎶🎶🎶🎶
@ThePerceptionist
@ThePerceptionist Год назад
Glad I found this, very informative mate thank you
@listeningtomusic7665
@listeningtomusic7665 10 месяцев назад
This was mind blowing thanks! When you cut the high end it all clicked
@woodcraft_cz
@woodcraft_cz 2 года назад
“I am a music producer/DJ/part time mastering guy/Deeaauuuuuwww noise maker”
@AlfonsoMuchacho
@AlfonsoMuchacho 2 года назад
Hahaha exactly
@adrianmiszczuk8061
@adrianmiszczuk8061 11 месяцев назад
Harder kicks with more bass frequency depending on the specific kick sound it's better? Nobody said that Soft kicks are worst. If you have 1000W+ boosted subwoofer even soft kicks hit hard 😊
@waytoofarianism
@waytoofarianism 8 месяцев назад
​@@adrianmiszczuk8061how does that translate to a phone, a small speaker, or flat response headphones?? Probably underwhelming huh?
@billeva12
@billeva12 2 года назад
Great that you have started giving production tips again.It's been a while.
@glenn_michaels
@glenn_michaels Месяц назад
Thank you for this!
@RoccoKOfficial
@RoccoKOfficial Год назад
Great explanation, will come in handy thanks!
@christophermeraz-mata6834
@christophermeraz-mata6834 11 месяцев назад
I wish every producer out there would watch to this video.
@Deepbluecat
@Deepbluecat 10 месяцев назад
Great info bro. Thank you for the no nonsense facts
@000SilaS000
@000SilaS000 10 месяцев назад
yes yes yes. that is very true. good video, i needed to hear this
@mit136speichenumdiewelt
@mit136speichenumdiewelt 9 месяцев назад
It would be great to get more of these tips. Thank you!
@mikeearl101
@mikeearl101 9 месяцев назад
Very well done video! Thank you!
@karolisbalcius2809
@karolisbalcius2809 10 месяцев назад
Auto subscribe. This is the kind of stuff youtube music production needs. The real obvious "secrets' that no one talks about. Super massive big up.
@updown5238
@updown5238 10 месяцев назад
Really enjoyed that mate, thanks. Will investigate more of your stuff.
@scott_doyle
@scott_doyle Год назад
Great explanation. Thanks for the video 👍
@mastakilla2253
@mastakilla2253 Год назад
Thanks for the video! very useful information!
@jhdrummer4815
@jhdrummer4815 Год назад
Very interesting, this confirms my choice of using drums sounds coming from an hardware module like my Roland TD30 and not relying on samples. I really can feel how good each drum instrument gel so well with each other.
@matthewfinan2619
@matthewfinan2619 9 месяцев назад
Thanks, Alfonso. I Been Choosing Kicks Based on How They Sound on Their Own--blowing my Mixes. I'm going to Try This--and, Hear the Difference. Thank You, Alfonso. Make It a Great Day. Smile on~ Matt Detroit
@syllomusic
@syllomusic 9 месяцев назад
GAME CHANGER Thanks for the tips (and super clear demonstration/theory)
@kshimonstevenson6458
@kshimonstevenson6458 10 месяцев назад
This was super helpful thank you !!
@anattaevergreen4115
@anattaevergreen4115 Год назад
awesome video man very informative and you explain super well too :)
@CraigHinrichs
@CraigHinrichs 6 месяцев назад
I have heard people ellude to what you are stating so clearly. I appreciate it.
@RokSivante
@RokSivante 11 месяцев назад
Extremely helpful ⭐️🥂
@proaudionajia
@proaudionajia 9 месяцев назад
Very informative video. Thanks man.
@d.j.levison4292
@d.j.levison4292 Год назад
Very good information, thank you
@sungwonkim8870
@sungwonkim8870 9 месяцев назад
I feel like this is an important tip that is overlooked quite often. Thanks for pointing this out!
@prophangas
@prophangas 6 месяцев назад
Well explained, sir!
@frankyoualot
@frankyoualot 3 месяца назад
this is so great- thanks a milliom
@franciscojaviergomez4807
@franciscojaviergomez4807 11 месяцев назад
very wise advice thanks for sharing
@psyzmech9044
@psyzmech9044 Год назад
Great video, this really helps.
@Djuni
@Djuni 10 месяцев назад
I've learned a lot, thank you.
@nickfarrant9581
@nickfarrant9581 10 месяцев назад
Super helpful many thanks 🙏
@DjNemes1s
@DjNemes1s 5 месяцев назад
Haha that kick is "absolutely obnoxious" - brilliant! Really insightful video, keep doing these types of vids please, they're packed with information gems!
@ChaosProjekt
@ChaosProjekt Год назад
Dear Alfonos Muchacho, i would like to thank you so much for this video. Furthermore, to mention that you’re a highly qualified and experienced music producer ! Then I know exactely, that this tutorial is totally correrct. Best greetings Chaos
@arbitersofsound
@arbitersofsound 11 месяцев назад
Great video! Very good advice, and not just for electronic music.
@nononanonon
@nononanonon Год назад
Thank you very much for taking your time to explain this even though you're not a RU-vidr! You're very good at explaining things. This was just as concise as the kicks you use! People like you make it possible for us to get into music production even without proper education in the domain. As a side note, there're subgenres of techno that are based almost exclusively on the kick (hard/industrial/rave techno, usually 148+ bpm, almost no melodies and very little percussion used mostly for breakdowns). I've never tried producing something like that but I assume in that case you want the kicks to fill out most of the frequency range and to last until the next kick comes, right?
@b1nary_f1nary
@b1nary_f1nary Год назад
Yeah but also they are faster bpm so there is even less space in between each kick. So yeah the kick will be filling out until the next kick but the kick would still have to be really short in general because the music is really fast
@AlbertSirup
@AlbertSirup 11 месяцев назад
yes there's something called a rumble kick, which is a techno kick with a longer tail. if you don't have a lot of harmonic movement a long kick can work as it takes the function of both kick and subbass
@jimmycoco6506
@jimmycoco6506 10 месяцев назад
Thank-you...
@tokowera
@tokowera 6 месяцев назад
great tutorial. thanks a bunch :)
@kriss12loverap
@kriss12loverap Год назад
there something called a retrigger on most samplers. that way the transients dont clash. its not the end of the world if u got ur kick in a sampler because u can just fit the adsr to be snappy in any situation if u make hiphop with 808s adjusting the length often shorter makes the 808 fit right in the track, its all about the bounce. Most about the tuning. pierre bourne blends 808 transients. ALso: Longer kick makes the track feel diffrent, kinda like slower, i think flume use allot of long transient kick.
@mrr5835
@mrr5835 11 месяцев назад
Some great concepts!
@Jobobaboss
@Jobobaboss 7 месяцев назад
Very clear and understandable. I see so many tutorials and how to's but i find most of them useless, pointless and worthless. But this my friend, this is just very important info that we're able to apply immediately and have big effect on our work. Thanks man, i'll definitely stick around and look into more of your video's.
@OfficialSameerSingh
@OfficialSameerSingh 10 месяцев назад
Great information❤
@caballoloco1
@caballoloco1 Год назад
Thanks man, so clear and easy. Es una excelente explicación y sencillo de entender por la forma en que lo explicas. Gracias
@Elektragen
@Elektragen 9 месяцев назад
Right on bro 💯 🙏 💪
@kolbrun90
@kolbrun90 9 месяцев назад
Thanks a lot!
@benwaveproducer
@benwaveproducer 11 месяцев назад
Really inspiring tutorial and tips! I come from producing Hip Hop and also went into more electronic stuff - but it often was a very frustrating journey, especially when it came to my mastering limiters. Often I had to work my ass off and try a thousand things, to realize it`s the sub area and the transient shaping, that are so damn important. Since I have really good headphones and different Waves NX Plugings, room treatment and optimization systems (Sonarworks Sound ID), it became way more easy to figure the problem areas out. Even good soft clippers, a Pro L2 or Ozone 10 don`t make a good job, if you choos the wrong kickdrum, what I still often do.
@UbergamR447
@UbergamR447 11 месяцев назад
great video! very informative, thank you! :)
@Well-beingCris..
@Well-beingCris.. 8 месяцев назад
Smartest producer on RU-vid. Thanks
@shaneshelton8834
@shaneshelton8834 11 месяцев назад
I watch a lot of music making video tutorials, but this is so concise and usable. I’ve already been doing some of these things, but thinking of a mix in terms of information amounts makes so much sense. I’m about to record something new, and I’m definitely going to pay attention to the amount of cumulative information in each part of that track and carve out space where needed!
@YoungNino2017
@YoungNino2017 Год назад
nah, it's sounds better without that low pass filter... trust me.. I've been here and done this... it seems like you don't want that high information in your kicks... but you do. I have low passed my kicks like that to eventually take it off before I finished the track realizing how muffled and muddy the kick sounds without those harmonics.
@marquezvanroeschen5340
@marquezvanroeschen5340 9 месяцев назад
good explained!
@benitolazio8193
@benitolazio8193 10 месяцев назад
Thank you
@midinerd
@midinerd 10 месяцев назад
My kicks weren't working and then this vid fixed them. now people's shins be aching, cheers
@oxar050
@oxar050 11 месяцев назад
Never thought I'd see someone suggesting to bandpass kick drums. Great video, thanks for the advice
@MattTruemother
@MattTruemother 10 месяцев назад
Dude you just broke producer RU-vid with this wizardry, amazing and true stuff
@St4rrk.
@St4rrk. 9 месяцев назад
I remember I saw some video from some dude advising to boost the high frequency of the kick so that it will "punch harder and cut easier through the mix ". I think I might have done exactly that on some of my tracks. 😭 Lesson learned, I will take with a grain of salt what you learn on RU-vid producers' channels. Thanks! Great video, subbing right now!
@metalyeezy
@metalyeezy 10 месяцев назад
amazing
@flavorlessdenial8271
@flavorlessdenial8271 11 месяцев назад
Great stuff this, confirmed a lot of stuff for me
@pollarik6400
@pollarik6400 9 месяцев назад
I have ADHD and I never knew that all I needed to make me watch a tutorial all the way through was a handsome muscular man to tell me what I need to know. So thankyou Alfonso! On a serious note, great tutorial!
@cl-zachwilliamsstudios3358
@cl-zachwilliamsstudios3358 Месяц назад
That’s so true for PRO LEVEL!
@KnjazNazrath
@KnjazNazrath 9 месяцев назад
Flashcore is my jam, and I keep tryin' to tell people exactly what you're sayin'. When they tell me "your kicks can be in c3 or c4 so what do you know?" I can now direct them here. Thanks for that, it'll really help me curtail some long arguments in the future.
@hoidoei941
@hoidoei941 10 месяцев назад
The first thing I always have done with kicks from samplepacks is trim it’s tail immensely (other keywords pitch, layering, eq, saturation, (sidechain)compression etc.)
@els1f
@els1f 9 месяцев назад
The MOMENT i saw the Ozone 5 plugin I subbed! 😋 I feel like that says a lot and for a number of reasons
@Arcessitor
@Arcessitor Год назад
Good advice.
@andrebentrup3238
@andrebentrup3238 2 года назад
Thanks
@djmattblack
@djmattblack 2 года назад
The man, the myth, the legend
@AutPen38
@AutPen38 11 месяцев назад
Very useful tips. I've been suffering from this problem, as I'll audition a bunch of kicks when I first start on a track and I guess I usually pick the "biggest" or "most interesting" one that sounds great when soloed... but I keep having problems at the mixing or mastering stage because the kick is (usually) too dominant or creates some kind of resonant clash with the other instruments. It often takes a long time to fix it at that stage (and often needs to be replaced entirely) so it's probably a good idea for me to go back to simpler kicks right at the start and then add pizzazz of my own if there's room for it, rather than have to work around a boomy kick that has too much information to begin with.
@TyneBridge90
@TyneBridge90 9 месяцев назад
that makes sense to me now but it wouldn't have made any sense at all to me 15 minutes ago before I watched this video
@stuartg4670
@stuartg4670 11 месяцев назад
"Don't choose a kick with a hi-hat on top" , and be aware of the tail and the implications of the tail. And the rest! Sage advice. It's the stuff we can all be lazy about, but it's the most crucial stuff. Great video!
@martinacuna9556
@martinacuna9556 10 месяцев назад
i love this youtuber
@partlysimpson5154
@partlysimpson5154 Год назад
Depends on the sample packs, some are well quiet raw synthesized sounds, but they tend to take more work to get it sound good
@vladyslavv6261
@vladyslavv6261 10 месяцев назад
great video
@tuckerm48
@tuckerm48 10 месяцев назад
4:52 YES glad this isn’t just me that has noticed this. Huge pet peeve of mine. Especially in a kinetic centric genre like dance music.
@jakobole
@jakobole 11 месяцев назад
That high-end on kick sampletransients indeed come from sampled songs - they are often closed hi-hats.
@DiMK_46
@DiMK_46 11 месяцев назад
Very helpful video!💯 I would say Bazzism is a very appropriate plug in to built your own kick and avoid any "bad information"
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