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Why your low end sounds amateur (maybe) 

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Let's talk about the deep low end, the sub frequencies. Do your subs groove? Are you overengineering your mixdown? Are you stressing the heck out and you are overcomplicating your life?
Chill! Let's play a game & learn how to listen to bass frequencies, and what to listen for to make sure yours sound groovy. In Ableton Live, I'll teach you how to use shelving filters to balance your frequencies, but you can follow along in any DAW.
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Content:
0:00 Let's play a game...
1:03 The cloakroom check
2:15 What bass was best?
4:55 The tools to shape your low end
8:21 What's a polymeter?

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@OscarUnderdog
@OscarUnderdog 2 года назад
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@thedarknight5714
@thedarknight5714 2 года назад
Hello, Oskar. I have recently gotten into music production. I'm very confused about sidechaining multiple tracks from one track. Is there a way to put one sidechained compressor on one track but then have that one compressor work on multiple tracks? Have you already made a video about this that I could maybe watch? By the way, you're my favorite producer/teacher on RU-vid and your videos have already helped me immensely. Thank you, from Portugal :)
@qracle
@qracle 2 года назад
@@thedarknight5714 I'm curious to hear Oscar's answer as well, but what I have done is use a separate, silent, very transient track to act as a trigger for multiple elements to be side-chained, to keep them all in sync. You can also route all tracks you want to be effected by one common side-chained compressor to a separate bus, before routing them the master. 💪🎶
@michaelleenen2634
@michaelleenen2634 2 года назад
@@thedarknight5714 I hope I understand your question correctly.. but I suppose you want one compressor ducking (sidechain compress) multiple tracks. If you make a group channel and put a sidechain compressor on it, you can route all the channels you like throught that compressor. grtz
@thedarknight5714
@thedarknight5714 2 года назад
@@qracle TBH I have no idea what a bus is or what it does (or how to route to a master XD) I've heard people mention it on many occasions but I've never seen anyone explain it. That's mia culpa, though. Thank you for the tip, man. :)
@thedarknight5714
@thedarknight5714 2 года назад
@@michaelleenen2634 Oh I actually already do that. Probably not how it's meant to be done though ha ha. I think that the other commenter's idea involving a bus is worth looking into, however. Thanks for the advice, bro. :)
@thewedge8823
@thewedge8823 Год назад
it drives me nuts how some producers can get their bass so HUGE, yet it sounds clear and clean, and it doesn't disrupt any other sounds in the mix. how the hell
@deepshite8229
@deepshite8229 Год назад
Tell me about it
@Flux_One
@Flux_One Год назад
It's probably all in the mastering
@020halo
@020halo Год назад
@@Flux_One mixing
@Flux_One
@Flux_One Год назад
@@020halo both
@FredTRZ
@FredTRZ Год назад
@@Flux_One It all starts at production stage. Sound design choices , frequency balance, mix. Mastering is just to polish stuff that is already good
@lionheartglass
@lionheartglass 2 года назад
You inspire me so much. I have been wondering in the dark without realizing it. You make difficult concepts so clear and simple. I can't thank you enough. I hope you have a wonderful day.
@joshuarogers8466
@joshuarogers8466 2 года назад
Well said 👍
@AlexFarleyMusic
@AlexFarleyMusic Год назад
Wondering or wandering?
@lionheartglass
@lionheartglass Год назад
@@AlexFarleyMusic Both:)! Loll 😁👍😎
@thegoodgeneral
@thegoodgeneral Год назад
My instincts were wrong about this even though my perception was accurate. I felt 1) was natural sounding and clean, 2) had a “pumping” effect that I personally find nauseating, and 3) had a flat, inoffensive bed of bass that never prodded you or jostled you around. But your explanation and elaboration on why 2) is indeed the most desirable option for a club setting-something I’m not familiar with admittedly -were both so clear and well-organized, I was convinced. You are an excellent communicator. Subscribed.
@OscarUnderdog
@OscarUnderdog Год назад
Thanks for saying that! However, I’m only putting forward one argument for why 2 is best, it’s totally a judgement call and tastes differ, I think it’s just cool to be able to put words on it so you can make decisions that suit your taste!
@Drewbyy
@Drewbyy Год назад
The thing is though being an art it’s totally subjective and you can make what you want. Though if you had been shown the examples on a bigger system you may come to the same conclusion on 2 being the better more balanced mix. Still music is about making what you like and sometimes break the ‘rules’ is a way of coming up with something original and unique. I personally love reverb heavy mixes that break the rules on having the wet just there. Then I go can shape and side chain bits of the wet signal to make it work and not muddy up the mix. Breaking the rules then coming up with my own way of making work a d sort be back in the rules again. Trust your instincts I’d say and experiment. Sometimes though it’s worth checking and really analysing the mixes of who you aspire to and see what your missing.
@soifpls
@soifpls 2 года назад
I liked the 2nd one best, there's like something "elastic" to it while the kick stays powerful. I find the same appeal as in tracks like Pablo Bozzi - Hotswitch.
@Decoy303
@Decoy303 2 года назад
yeah I immediately was like #2 is butter.
@itstobitan
@itstobitan 2 года назад
Oscar, not the first time I'm impressed by your videos. It's not the content of your lessons, it is your perspective on music production and the way you approach solutions to all the issues. Really worth following and I recommend your channel as often I can.
@simonkendrick762
@simonkendrick762 2 года назад
Your tuition videos are so good and clear to understand . Thank you for all your help 🙏
@GS-cl8eg
@GS-cl8eg 2 года назад
it's not even my genre, but this has been so helpful. really great content especially compared to other vids! that last shelf tip was pure gold. also nice that you gave a actual reference when it comes to the kick and bass instead of "just use your ears"
@LuCrow528
@LuCrow528 2 года назад
The content here is always right to the point. No frills. Thank you.🙏
@m1ndfox
@m1ndfox 2 года назад
Oscar, the quality of these videos are just headed through the roof. Great work man, very very inspiring. Thanks!
@lukeautosymbol2668
@lukeautosymbol2668 2 года назад
I knew when I heard the correct example that it was the "best" sounding one, but on headphones the loudest one is the most fun. Sounds that break rules are very enjoyable to make and listen to on smaller setups--but if done to the extreme, they can end up damaging sound equipment. That's the problem with production and mixing...you're playing with raw energy.
@thevalueofn6994
@thevalueofn6994 2 года назад
@AD Shyn Would releasing various different mixes for various different situations be a practically-legitimate way of covering all of the bases? The pun was not intended. Surely, it's incredibly difficult to create one mix to rule them all. Could the time and effort spent in creating a "Phone Mix", "Club/Mono Mix", "Car Mix", "Closed-Back Headphone Mix", "Open-Back Headphone Mix", "Spotify Mix", "Audiophile Mix", etc. be viable?
@ncshuriken
@ncshuriken Год назад
@@thevalueofn6994 Really you want to just aim to mix your tracks to sound transparent & consistent on whatever they're played on, from little casual in ear buds to decent headphones, from "average" to good speakers; mix so it sounds as good with a subwoofer as it does without (if you don't low cut the "unwanted, often inaudible subs" in all the channels that contain them (EQ with spectrum shows us they're everywhere), it will totally mess up your balance and "frequency range", and a subwoofer (unlike average speakers, or in ear buds) will bring any "actually audible unwanted subs" right in your face (even though the same track "seems" to sound "fine" on systems with less low end range). An EQ with an analyzer (EG Fabfilter Pro-Q) will "visually show you" a lot of simple mix errors which will allow you more time to focus on things you need to "mix by ear". Throw an EQ on your master channel, look at the spectrum. Is it relatively flat, solid and loud? Or are peaks moving around like crazy with a lot of dynamic range? Is it showing way more low end than mids/highs (downward slope) even though it "doesn't sound overly bassy & muddy"? If so, you're gonna hear that on a system with more range, even if you can't hear it at home. As you mute/solo different channels, you constantly see how each one directly affects the master mix EQ readout (this way you can easily find that 1 element causing problems). I find (usually atleast) that if the spectrum on your master EQ "looks good", it will often sound good (purely EQ & levels wise) when you take it to other speakers. Even without "often essential" stuff like compression, just some careful EQ'ing and levelling can go a huge way. I like to put an EQ on more or less everything just to "probe/test" (put an EQ on 30 channels, and 28 of them WILL have unwanted subs, even sounds with zero audible low end, EG hi-hats, or singing birds); if I can't "hear" if it needs EQ'ing, I can "see" it. I think if we rely only on "visual mixing" we could lose the ability to "mix by ear", but if you use both together, mixing INO becomes so much easier!
@AKAtAGG
@AKAtAGG 2 года назад
So succinct, so obvious when you say it. Great teaching man, so much respect.
@ntokozomtshali9439
@ntokozomtshali9439 Год назад
This comment 🔥
@VivanteMixes
@VivanteMixes 2 года назад
i watched this quick video and loaded up an old project of mine to help balance the low end and it helped a lot. the best part of the video was how he shows 3 different low ends, PLAYS IT and talks about it AS it is playing so as to show ppl what to listen for. That one thing really trains your ear a lot more than someone just talking about it. After checking my own low end, it sounded much more balanced, great channel
@KieranThompsonMusic
@KieranThompsonMusic Год назад
Hey man, just wanted to say I've learnt so much from your videos. They are incredible and make such complex topics simple. Thank you for everything, you've brought me to a new level producing wise.
@OscarUnderdog
@OscarUnderdog Год назад
Cheers Kieran :)
@NicoEfstratiou
@NicoEfstratiou 2 года назад
This is my favourite video of yours to date. Awesome editing, engaging and great analysis. Great stuff
@Pharmacymusic1
@Pharmacymusic1 2 года назад
Thank you, this is the most clear and easy to follow tutorial on low end I've seen!
@Death_Rave
@Death_Rave 2 года назад
Wow man, I love how with the shelf filter part you really explained it at every level and demonstrated it making sure even a person barely paying attention could still understand
@TehDawg
@TehDawg Год назад
For over a decade I have constantly over-complicated this subject. I knew it had to be so much simpler than how I was imagining. This is absolutely perfect and has broke down and confirmed all the things I knew I should/shouldn’t have been doing!!! Wicked video and I instantly subscribed. Easy to follow and to the point. Thanks mate!!!
@OscarUnderdog
@OscarUnderdog Год назад
🥰
@artvandelay2731
@artvandelay2731 2 года назад
Best tip I ever got from RU-vid by far. Gives a great starting point for fitting kick and bass, sometimes nothing else is needed. Thanks!
@busliferecords5815
@busliferecords5815 2 года назад
Thanks Oscar. That is still a valuable refresher to an advanced producer. Yes, its true id forgotten this basic mindset and been using 'clever' techniques rather than doing the groundwork properly. Much appreciated as are many of your videos. Thanks Lee
@Rhekluse
@Rhekluse 2 года назад
Clean editing, visuals & production. I like your overall energy & content too. Great video, Oscar!
@macks_dm
@macks_dm 2 года назад
Great stuff as usual! TYWM Oscar. Just to add : this is the first time I saw you dancing than actually just grooving! No matter what ... You Rock!!!!
@Hyst44
@Hyst44 2 года назад
Love your videos man. Great tips, explained in a way that my ADD doesn't get triggered. 🤘
@marlon_fm
@marlon_fm Год назад
OMG!!! My musical production journey is pretty recent (2-3 years) and I can't believe this is the first time I see this trick. So powerful! Thanks a lot Oscar.
@TeddBamBolero
@TeddBamBolero 2 года назад
MANNN TY SO MUCH FOR THE TUTORIAL✌ BIG BIG RESPECT 🖤 I CANNOT BELIVE THAT SO SIMPLE TECHNIQUE COULD BE SO POWERFUL
@trippdaly8262
@trippdaly8262 2 года назад
This tip is a game changer for me at the moment. Super focused on how I can improve low end lately. Cheers!
@whenuleastexpectit
@whenuleastexpectit 2 года назад
This is something I found helped a lot while mixing a full length album for the first time. Hip-hop stuff with lots of samples and unseparated drum loops so the EQ was my best friend when trying to balance layers on a track, especially in the low end. Well done video and super helpful tip I wish I learned sooner. Take his advice!!
@neoromatik
@neoromatik 5 месяцев назад
As usual, great Oscar! Useful tips, good explanation, clear demonstration in Ableton. Thanks!
@burn_after_reading
@burn_after_reading Год назад
Really good vid! Loving what you said about some masking being good and the effortlessness of not over complicating the mix translates in the feeling of the track :)
@jeronimocliff2972
@jeronimocliff2972 2 года назад
Videos getting better and better, respect
@ASWJ11
@ASWJ11 2 года назад
" In You We Trust " Thanks so much for sharing this.
@prodigy_xd
@prodigy_xd 5 месяцев назад
Good idea. I will try that today. Thank you
@haslo_
@haslo_ 2 года назад
Oscar, I love all your videos, but the last few ones have been _really really good_. The breaking things one, the chords and the low end insights ... you're on fire!
@OscarUnderdog
@OscarUnderdog 2 года назад
Cheers Haslo! I've been trying to up the cinematography a bit, throw in some different types of shots, make it smooth and visual! Thanks for noticing :D
@epprk
@epprk 2 года назад
@@OscarUnderdog it's well done and noticeable, really love it! Keep up the good work, you're a true guru.
@woulg
@woulg 2 года назад
@@OscarUnderdog I loved that "wait let me show you in the daw" moment, and the clip of you dancing. I don't even make techno but the tips are still extremely interesting and helpful
@marcperves2261
@marcperves2261 2 года назад
@@OscarUnderdog Have you been working out too 😍
@marcperves2261
@marcperves2261 2 года назад
@@OscarUnderdog Also love the 'dancing on my own' shots and how please you are with your 'cloakroom check' 😎
@jpmayeur
@jpmayeur 2 года назад
gracias Dog , always good tips for all kind of levels
@elcemuziq8514
@elcemuziq8514 3 месяца назад
FINALLY! The right explanation along with demonstrating the process. Thanks for this information. Subbed
@cornbone
@cornbone Год назад
speaking as a beginner: this video was SO informative, straight to the point, and easy to understand. thank you for making this video! the cloakroom check trick is genius. also im so proud of myself for choosing #2 lol
@TheNanologue
@TheNanologue Год назад
Thanks man. Really helpful videos. I’ve been working way my through a few recently. It’s funny how you spend years chasing your tail and then someone gives you a method which just makes complete sense. Subscribed. 👍🏻
@MrMatthewKerr
@MrMatthewKerr 2 года назад
I used to side chain the bejesus out of all kicks. Then i went down to Multi band, and even lighter multi band. This video is really great to give me the confidence to worry even less with certain masking (it can jsut be a nice blend). TRULY, thanks again Mate. I really hope one day i see you pottering around Berlin, so i can say thanks in person. Your channel has strengthened so many concepts i thought i knew well, and taught me many new things.
@joostdekker2077
@joostdekker2077 Год назад
I'm a beginner when it comes to music production and really in the dark about mixing. You really explained this very elegantly and clear. The storytelling analogy really helps to understand this better. Thanks!
@michaelandrewgarcia4896
@michaelandrewgarcia4896 2 года назад
A brilliantly down-to-earth tip. Thank you!
@donniedorko3336
@donniedorko3336 Год назад
Needed to hear this. Thank you!
@sramirez1906
@sramirez1906 2 года назад
Great material, Oscar. Very clear and concise. Thanks!
@AnthonyHuttley
@AnthonyHuttley 2 года назад
This is unbelievable. Thanks for the tips. So simple, yet, such a game changer. I'll be using this for sure.
@grigorescupetru563
@grigorescupetru563 2 года назад
This tutorial was so great, I always struggled with bass when producing
@i.syntaxerror
@i.syntaxerror 2 года назад
Very helpful and clearly explained topic. Key words are really helpful and makes whole video pleasant.
@iamm3109
@iamm3109 2 года назад
Literally never thought it would be that simple, thank you so much!!
@l2a2
@l2a2 Год назад
Excellent points and bass frequencies demistified,so well explained, nice one Oscar!!
@kurdonoid
@kurdonoid 2 года назад
Thank you so much Oscar, very valuable tutorial here. Simple, effective and stress-free!
@secondnatureful
@secondnatureful 2 года назад
Fantastic video yet again. Thanks Oscar, Don't stop; this is incredible content!
@WNxExectechWarriorNation
@WNxExectechWarriorNation Год назад
This is an incredibly simple and straight forward explanation of balancing frequency clashing of the kick(bass) drum and bass.
@Milan-de9fp
@Milan-de9fp 2 года назад
This channel is still so underated! Thanks for this awesome content
@ohshowbeats
@ohshowbeats Год назад
I like this thought. I've watched million of tutorials over the years and no one has ever given such a simple option with kick and bass. I'm gonna try it today. Thanks!
@edexymusic
@edexymusic 2 года назад
Thanks for this awesome guide man!
@gotborgmusic
@gotborgmusic 2 года назад
Best advice EVER ! My low end sound so professional right now ! Thank you so much man !
@minimalmayhem
@minimalmayhem 2 года назад
Super simple and demystifying. Thanks Oscar!
@jeffrey.a.hanson
@jeffrey.a.hanson Год назад
The filter idea is stupidly simple but genius. While I play and write in a Mayer style pop blues or in country, there’s a lot to take from the groove and separation in the low end found in electronic music that keeps people moving on the dance floor.
@lukasgruber1280
@lukasgruber1280 2 года назад
thank you for offering simple solutions
@constmusic1
@constmusic1 2 года назад
Awesome video man 😃 super useful and the edits are getting more and more dynamic! 😁🔥🔥
@seekohn3022
@seekohn3022 2 года назад
Great technique there. Thanks. And great video quality.
@MrKeitfoster
@MrKeitfoster 2 года назад
Great tutorial! Simple things work! Thank you for reminding!
@DouglasWidick
@DouglasWidick 2 года назад
I liked this clip! I usually prioritize using a side chain but I love the idea of shelving to carve. thanks for the clip!
@dreamlandsociety5842
@dreamlandsociety5842 2 года назад
This new style of making your videos is so much better. It really takes this channel to another level. Congratz for that. I think that despite the very useful information of your previeous videos the visual design lowered the precieved quality. You re on the right way I think.
@joao4333
@joao4333 2 года назад
i apprecciate your editing so much :)
@DimMorock
@DimMorock 2 года назад
Awesome! Great thanks you! A years of practice archived in one suggestion. Really clear and simple.
@BlakeRubelle
@BlakeRubelle Год назад
LOW END #2 was my favorite. Oscar you have such a clear and to the point method of explaining things that I didn't know I found confusing. Thank you. Hearing and simply remembering that low end always needs to exhibit a clear priority between the kick and the bass but they must still work together and compliment each other by grooving as a whole and "Masking is not your enemy"... Plus the 'CloakRoom Check'! Such a good tool, so helpful, thanks again for the knowledge.
@OscarUnderdog
@OscarUnderdog Год назад
Cheers Blake 😁
@MiracleDee
@MiracleDee Год назад
Always enjoy your videos ! Thanks .
@SlowBookings
@SlowBookings 2 года назад
I haven’t learned that quick since Andre Salata’s classes! Love from Brazil! 💜
@Timotejovic
@Timotejovic 2 года назад
this video is gamechanging for me. Helps me a lot with this case. Thank you so much. God bless you ;)
@amedbeats
@amedbeats 2 года назад
Your explanations are so clear man props
@slashelevenofficial
@slashelevenofficial 2 года назад
Quality content as always, thank you for your constant uploads mate!
@delioIRL
@delioIRL 2 года назад
Great video! So much help and you're amazing at explaining things!
@SoulsticeHiphopbeats
@SoulsticeHiphopbeats 2 года назад
thank you so much man this was so helpful ive been having a hard time mixing my low end for the longest time. that shelf and cloakroom check technique is goated.
@ginxbeatz8591
@ginxbeatz8591 2 года назад
This is by far the best low end video I ever did see in my entire music production career
@PatrickObiang
@PatrickObiang 2 года назад
Very Insteresting topic. Well explained. BRAVO!
@ignaciojimenez4786
@ignaciojimenez4786 2 года назад
Thank youuu this is one more little piece to achieve full and satisfying compositions
@jkuda3470
@jkuda3470 2 года назад
Absolutely love your videos dude!!!!
@robinplur
@robinplur 2 года назад
Thank you for sharing!
@ozziereaker
@ozziereaker 3 месяца назад
so happy to find Your channel ! GOLD
@dmitrys6889
@dmitrys6889 2 года назад
Damn! That's a golden! I will start using this tip.... much love ! Thank you!
@moritzathaher
@moritzathaher 2 года назад
Your idea is fantastic; I'll try it into my next song mixing
@alphastar5626
@alphastar5626 2 года назад
Thanks for the adivce!! Settings the gain of each clip right makes the whole mixing easier after!! I use a lot the Multiband Dynamics of Ableton while mixing for compression AND expansion, but I never thought about using it as a 3 shelf filter Low/Mid/High! It will certainly make my mixing easier and better ! Awesome video again thanks
@dreamyfoxboy4859
@dreamyfoxboy4859 Год назад
very nice use for the shelf, never seen this done before!
@smtonlinevideos
@smtonlinevideos 4 месяца назад
Really helpful. Thank you!
@paulluckey6997
@paulluckey6997 2 года назад
Excellent perspective. Thank you. :)
@wadehathawaymusic
@wadehathawaymusic 2 года назад
Yeah, keep it simple. I put alot of energy and time into the sound design and capture and don't want to get bogged down in mixing. I like your approach focusing on straightforward but highly effective processing.
@konnelius
@konnelius Год назад
i love you for doing these... thank you.
@lordlucan7348
@lordlucan7348 2 года назад
Great stuff mate. Many thanks
@nards1341
@nards1341 2 года назад
I love your videos so much dude, you are an absolute legend mate
@willievaughn6474
@willievaughn6474 2 года назад
Thank you Sir, you're a blessing
@AF-ws5yf
@AF-ws5yf 2 года назад
Wow! Thank you so much sensei Oscar!
@PrinceWa
@PrinceWa Год назад
New to your channel. This is amazing, thank you!
@martinlubitz3171
@martinlubitz3171 2 года назад
Very helpful video, thanks for sharing 🙏
@infinitebx326
@infinitebx326 2 года назад
Amazing information here. Very well explained and detailed enough.
@LesterBrunt
@LesterBrunt 2 года назад
Good lesson! It is all about volume balance.
@MartyMcFlyTop1
@MartyMcFlyTop1 2 года назад
Ultra cool and the most thing - just simple!! Thank you)
@kentonmusic
@kentonmusic 2 года назад
Using these shelfs filters in tandem with a cloak room check really has made my low end sound good! Thank you Oscar!
@redstrom_edm
@redstrom_edm Год назад
Love your videos! I'm learning a lot!
@YungGoatBeats
@YungGoatBeats 2 года назад
that's a great technique bro. i'm gonna be trying it out!! thanks so much for the info. liked and subbed
@nlpascal
@nlpascal 2 года назад
Cool, I've been working on this problem the last few days. This was helpful. I end up side chaining a filter with the kick signal. Really makes the kick pop while having insane bass at the same time.
@thestever
@thestever 2 года назад
the filter that youre sidechaining to the kick--is it a low pass filter or a high pass thats being engaged when the kick hits?
@agathonnn
@agathonnn 2 года назад
Thank you bro !
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