Why Not Bring Back the Nordiques? 

I feel like Quebec should get a team but not for a few years until the economic situation improves. I think they should get a relocation, not an expansion

The Quebec Remparts have a bigger fanbase than majority of the sunbelt teams combined

My fellow Americans and I love sports. I think most non-NHL fans in America just don't understand the game. NHL/hockey has speed, skill, toughness and excitement. I didn't became an NHL fan until 1994 (19yo) and I'm the only one in my family who likes hockey. I raised my daughters to enjoy hockey and they do, but you need to take people to a live NHL game. (Patrick in Chicago)

If I were a professional hockey player and made many millions of dollars I would occasionally buy a batch of tickets that weren't being sold and give them a away to the fans.

Nordiques had that great jersey

The thing about Quebec is that they most likely won't go after big names. They'll go after local players. And people will still go see them.

Preaching the very unfortunate truth.

I really love your videos. I am always surprised how sound and on the spot.

Remember, this is Bettman at the helm on the NHL's official flagship. Since he's the commissioner there, don't expect him to listen to the fans' requests.

My NHL: Pacific: Anaheim, Calgary, Edmonton, LA, SJ, Vancouver, VGK, Seattle Central: Chicago, Colorado, Dallas, Detroit, Minnesota, Nashville, St. Louis, Winnipeg Atlantic: Boston, Halifax, Hartford, Montreal, Ottawa, Quebec, TB, Toronto Metropolitan: Buffalo, Columbus, NJ, NYI, NYR, Philadelphia, Pittsburgh, Washington

Makes sense to me. It's hard to see Canada expanding beyond the 7 current teams anytime soon.

Absolutely superb economics & pro sports franchise commentary!

On a side note, I remember one of my friends at school growing up struggled to pronounce them if I remember correctly, he was calling them the Nor-dee-cues, kinda funny.

Welcome to summer, 4 inches of snow in Aurora, Co today, mountains had 16 inches of snow. I like your jersey.

The lower ticket prices are why I had the pleasure of going to almost every home Thunderbirds game. My best friend and I after work could get a ticket for $36 and be at row 5. We are passionate fans and cheered every step of the way even in losing games. I don't understand why the NHL can't just get behind making things affordable.

Well, when you put it that way..... I definitely want to see a resolution to this problem. They deserve their beloved team back.

When I last held tickets to games was during the Hartford Whalers last season 1997. A lower bowl seat then was $50.

great stuff

Last time I worked in downtown Calgary oil head office land I made friends with the sales guys and when Columbus came I lucked out and was given for free 4 lower bowl tickets just to the side of the opposing goalie. Beautiful seats and the tickets were I think 280 each. Speaking of NFL another sales guy in another co I worked at had his own season tickets to the Denver Broncos! The Denver broncos man! Lol useful tickets for clients I suppose but he gave me free tickets to Denver vs NE. Make friends with sales guys or be a sales guy.

As a Ranger fan I always liked when they played at Le Colisee on a Saturday night don't know why just enjoyed it we used to get Bruins games on cable and used to watch those games too plus that's where the rendezvous 87 was held great hockey City

Si, vous avez trouvé(e) cette video par The Hockey Man par accident puis: / If you have found this video by The Hockey Man by accident then: Nordiques = Nordiques de Québec / Quebec Nordiques Sport = hockey sur glace / ice hockey Pays / Country = Canada Salary cap = le plafond salarial Le plafond salarial = fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plafond_salarial Salary cap = en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salary_cap#National_Hockey_League Lower = inférieur / plus bas Bowl = amphithéâtre Lower bowl = les places à côté de la patinoire / the seats beside the ice rink Some more ice hockey related discussion which uses the term 'salary cap': NHL.com One Week, Two Drafts The Golden Knights will acquire more than 30 players in the next week during the Expansion and Entry Drafts 5th paragraph "The salary cap and the collective bargaining agreement conspire to make it crucial for teams to lock up assets on long-term, budget friendly contracts" Look elsewhere for an explanation of the term 'draft' and 'collective bargaining agreement'. Golden Knights = Vegas Golden Knights, Las Vegas, Nevada / NV www.nhl.com/goldenknights/news/one-week-two-drafts/c-289971054 Vegas Golden Knights T-Mobile Arena Plan Your Visit / Plan d'access www.t-mobilearena.com/plan-your-visit Another sports team with a well designed logo.

As a true Canucks fan, I always had respect for the Habs organization for having more than a dozen price categories and keeping some ticket prices accessible to all. Not sure if it's still the case, but they also sold all the tickets directly so no distributor mark up. Molson Ex zone less than half the cheapest seat at Rogers Arena...

Yes!!!!!

Coyotes should become the Nordiques, since the Jets are already back lol

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We tried so hard to sell hockey to Americans that, we succeed and succeed so much that we will loose it forever!

You look great in this video

Its 1.28 and not 1.36 now on the USD/CAD exchange. It's advanced trend will most likely keep going lower and this higher price is a short-term fluctuation. Expect it to go lower than 10% in the next 2 years or so.

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Hi Hockey guy-I don't know about Phoenix but if you want to attend a game with a team that's closer to the playoffs and not have to wait till the end of the season try Florida. My wife and I got 2 seats at centre ice for $60 ($90 Canadian)-and that was for BOTH seats.

It will be very interresting to see back the Nordiques in Quebec. But we must know that since Gary Bettman entered the NHL from the NBA ... the Nordiques were gone by 1995 & Winnipeg by 1996. Winnipeg came back in 2011 from Atlanta. Before that Quebec & Winnipeg went to the Usa ... The Coliseum & the Winnipeg Arena were pretty a crowded house at each games thus and Bettman does not want to bring back the Nordiques in the NHL, whatsoever, even that Quebec has built the new building for 400 Millions. Quebec is a hockey city as for Winnipeg, Edmonton, Calgary, Vancouver, Toronto, Ottawa and Montreal. Speaking of Montreal & Toronto ... when Vancouver first offered to get in the NHL in 1967, both cities were against the idea and in 1970 they still were. When Quebec gets in 1979 ... Montreal were against and still are today. I would say for the Montreal Fans that their team only missed the playoffs once in 1995 while Quebec were in the NHL (the fact of having a rivalry motivates the teams on the ice). Since Quebec left for Colorado ... Montreal have missed regularly the playoffs since. Finally, by having a team in Las Vegas ... it won't help, whatsoever, the cap salaries in the NHL ... Bettman & the Board of Governers are ruling the game unfortunately ...

This is a sensitive question but here goes. I love QC and have a blast whenever I go there (I am a Minnesotan not a Canadian so I don't go as often as I would like to). The history, the blended nature of the city (both architecturally and culturally speaking), the beautiful nature and a damn good plate of poutine make it an awesome place to visit for an Anglophone here in North America. Not to mention the marathon is a damn good one! But would such an exotically different market attract quality players? Of course the Francophone Canadians would have no issues culturally there, but would Finns, Swedes, Americans or Russians want to play there? Quebec is not like Montreal, which is a mixed city. It is bascially monolingual and French Canadians are very protective of their culture (which I understand). Not to mention the monolingual nature of the area cause certain marketing concerns? Would Anglophone Canadians support or watch the team in any meaningful way (there is most certainly serious underlying tension between Quebec and the ROC although separation no longer appears to be a real concern)? I bet they would attract some support from the New England region of the US (especially Vermont, Maine and NH) and possibly Wisconsin and MN (Wisconsin lacks and team and the MN Wild are a joke of a franchise in just about every way possible and are not endearing themselves to your average MN even though they operate in a hockey crazed region). But this is all speculation on my part. I for one would love to see a team back in QC. In the meantime for any Canucks reading this hockey keeps getting bigger and bigger here in the States so the future looks bright as a whole for the NHL! When I was growing up in the 90s if you had ever told me Blackhawk tickets or Stars tickets would go for as much as Chicago Bulls or Dallas Cowboy tickets I would have laughed! But here we are!

Quebec didn't drop out of trying to get a team. They were deferred. And now they're being threatened to have Seattle get the next team before them. Frankly, they don't need to purchase an expansion franchise. There are plenty of struggling franchises already that need to be rectified. How long can the league continually justify having the Coyotes in Phoenix when they've never turned one single profit, and they don't draw decent attendance, even when they're winning? That's the definition of a money pit. The NHL must be scared to try to make more money. Any legit business man would tell you they wouldn't invest in a market that hasn't turned a profit after a couple years, never mind over two decades. And a team wouldn't be taken away again if Quebec got a team. They have a modern building where the team can make money. Management just has to follow the blueprint set by Winnipeg. You know you'll make money in Quebec. You're not making money in Sunrise, Arizona or Carolina. And it's the successful teams that are having to continually prop-up these money-pit franchises.

It's a business. And they will put teams where's the most money to be plowed.

Yea it’s amazing how much tickets are. Never gonna go down only up it sucks. Me and my wife are die hard flyer fans and we went to just two regular game the stadium series they were a Christmas present and one pre season game. They are just way to much

as someone who doesn't make much, I hope to myself that I would not be a part of the problem if I was an NHL'er, but it's hard to say unless you've walked a mile in their shoes. it would be nice if one of these years, players on a team decided to take pay cuts in order to keep the group together (example- when teams win a cup, and then suddenly all want tons more money, the team can't afford them anymore, so they are split up and sent away) in order to win more cups. but the goal of making it more affordable to your fans would be amazing too. I agree that salary cap should take a break from going up for a little while

It could work

Bettman would never allow it.

Sad situation & it will not get any better ether.

I'm a Bruins fan and a lot of rich people live in Massachusetts and I look at the prices for the Games and for the nosebleeds it's over 100 American dollars and no matter, what the TD garden is a packed house every signal night so it really sucks and the Bruins have no reason to lower them because they don't care who goes or even if they come as long as they sell the seat.

We Need NHL In Houston & Quebec

Jacques Parizeau said: (I'm paraphrasing here) 'We're so goddamn poor, look at me, I firing nurses left and right. You want a new arena for your silly Nordiques? You must be joking''. In the same time frame, he also said this: (Still paraphrasing) 'We're rich enough to become our own country'. We all know how that worked out, right? Canada still lives, thanks to its greatest unsung hero (however unintentional he may have been): Jacques Parizeau, the man who saved Canada, but killed the Nordiques. True story, ask anyone willing enough to fact-check it.

The best thing that Quebec could do is to not think about expansion fee of 650 million but instead try to figure out how to pry the Panthers as its value estimated is only 186 million.

Shannon, that's also a sign that you live in southern British Columbia

I say bring back 2 more teams at least bring back a team to Quebec preferably the Quebec nordiques and the Hartford Whalers that would be cool

Teams get their own stadiums built? Always thought an arena was built/paid for by a company or the city and leased to teams that play there.

It would work! It would even out the league! Pacific: LAK, ANA, VGK, VNC, SJS, CGY, ARI, EDM - 8 teams Central: CHI, NSH, MIN, DET, STL, WPG, COL, DAL - 8 teams Atlantic: MTL, FLA, TBL, OTT, TOR, BOS, BUF, QBC - 8 teams Metro: WSH, NYR, NYI, PIT, PHI, CBJ, CAR, NJD - 8 teams! Please NHL, do this!

One thing that you didn't mention is the corporate sponsorship thing that the professional teams are milking. They have those block seating with those sweets. Who's going to sponsor when your business is balancing on almost closing down if they do place that tariff. It's a weird time for business right now.

Last night, Tempe residents unanimously rejected the city’s proposed $2.1 billion Entertainment District that would’ve included a 16,000-seat NHL-ready arena. Does this mean the Arizona Coyotes are ready to relocate to Quebec City next season?

The will be coming back

Money is surely a big issue but the biggest one, IMO, is that the NHL need a landing spot for all these struggling markets just in case and, for now, Quebec City is the only one...

where do you work?

Im sorry but 125$ (possible more depending on how worse the Canadian dollar may get), for A ticket??.... not happening, not even an urge to buy. Wow.... now my perspective has changed some much about the NHL. Feel bad for the Nordiques, JUST WISH they could come back, but like you very well explained this is a very difficult issue cause it has to do with the money.

Off topic but I hate that the NHL has a hard cap. I would LOVE it if the NHL adopted the NBA's cap system. There's a salary cap but teams can go over it they just have to pay a luxury tax that is divided among the teams below the cap. It's the fairest salary cap system imo. Oh, and don't give me this bs about it favouring big markets. For the past few years Cleveland has had the highest payroll in the NBA. Hardly a large market.

QUEBEC NORDIQUES IN THE HOCKEY HALL OF FAME 01. 1978: Jacques Plante 02. 1988: Guy Lafleur 03. 1993: Guy Lapointe 04. 1998: Michel Goulet 05. 1998: Peter Stastny 06. 2012: Joe Sakic 07. 2012: Mats Sundin 08. 2014: Peter Forsberg

Predicting that Quebec city will get an NHL franchise around 2020

I knew how rowdy us Minnesotans got when Norm Green finger fucked us and ran away with the North Stars (Stars) to Dallas, I can't imagine how my fellow Nordiques fans are feeling, I'd bring the Nordiques back for the sake of the game and for the fans. Plus have them and the Canadiens shake up their feathers once more (Bataille de québec). RAMENEZ LES NORDIQUES!

Are you also figuring corporate tax rates into your equations? I do feel from an economics stand point you have an over simplification here. Also I am not a favor of tariffs at all but when a country puts tariffs on incoming good (ie. Canada tariff on US dairy production) you run the risk of that country tariffing your goods as well.

Question? Is not nhl hockey money coming from commercial, seats are just bonus.

The NHL is interested in big markets, tv deals etc etc. They would have to be down to putting a team in Idaho before they would consider Quebec. It's sad, it's wrong but it's true.

nordiques

Bring back the North Stars

I Would be so Grateful to see the Quebec Nordiques Be Brought Back. It would be Nice to see the Canadian Cities get More Teams in Canada and it is High Time that we did get More Teams in Canada. It is High Time that we Had Hamilton Brought Back into the NHL Circle and its Also High Time that the NHL Got Rid of the American NHL Teams and the NHL Is very Badly Managed and its time that the NHL Started to Bring Back More Canadian Teams into the NHL And where we can have Both More Western and Eastern Canadian Cities with a Team in its Place and it would be Better for Our Economy. Lets Bring Back Victoria and Lets Bring Other Teams into other Canadian Cities Like Regina Saskatoon Brandon Hamilton Halifax Sydney and Many More to Mention those Cities and that will be More then Good. More Teams in those Cities it would be More then Good For the Economy and it would be good for the Federal Provincial and Municipal Economy Pictures and the More we have More Canadian NHL Franchises in the NHL The More We Lower the Unemployment Picture. David W Glavin Burnaby BC

How about Huston

The price tag is a cool $750 million US to get a new franchise. In Quebec City...not going to happen.

That's the problem with the NHL. The fact that the average fans can't or wont be able to afford tickets with rising the cap is not into the NHL consciousness. They are about making profit and now what they are counting on to fill the arenas seats is with corporations, selling boxes to companies.

Quebec City is the ultimate place for a franchise. It may be a bit small, but the people truly cared about ice hockey and have great support. How can the Canadian dollar sink amazingly and have the Nordiques and Jets move South to the States? Colorado is good, but how did Phoenix get a franchise? 2 words: population growth. They have Winnipeg back and Quebec is the true place to have a team with a new arena being built. I would not think the Nordiques moniker is necessary, other names like Remparts, Blizzard, Flowers and my favorite Bulldogs are great names as well. The possible expansion effort might be at least 2019 with other cities like Kansas City, Seattle, Madison (Wisconsin) and few others would be a proposed 32nd team. Other option is relocation with teams from Florida, Carolina, Arizona and Anaheim (West Coast) struggling to draw fans, they would have to approve the league to move to that place. Only time will tell.

I don't get this thing about increasing the cap. Some people say it allows a team to get better players. But doesn't that also help inflate salaries? I don't know exactly how salaries work, but I'd expect that caps help keep salaries manageable. If you get a player for half of the salary cap, then the rest of your team is going to be bad. And aren't the best players also interesting in playing in competitive teams? And maybe the teams don't want to pay that much for a single player, and so he'll lower his demands. But if you increase the cap, then some players could be like "now you can afford to pay me more, else I go elsewhere". I don't know, I don't think increasing the cap helps the teams at all. If anything, considering how ridiculously well paid the players are, and how expensive are ticket prices, the cap should go down.

Nailed it. This is a economic crisis not just hitting hockey fans. Families are struggling to feed their families who dont even care for hockey (yes blasphemy). Society in general needs revamped.

Great points... I would say that Hartford deserves a reboot way more than Quebec but the same numbers come into play.

How do the other Canadian do it???

Quebec did not drop out they were defered by the nhl watch garry bettman say it

Is it just me or are NHL players more worried about how many million dollars THEY ARE GOING TO LOSE. Than they are donating some of the other millions of dollars they will still get paid?

I'm not sure why the strength of the Canadian dollar is particularly important, unless its just a way to say that Canada is experiencing more economic difficulties than the United States

Sounds like a plan but in reality,not a chance.This is the"Bettman Era",expansion is south of the 49th and any Canadian teams having problems better get their ducks in a line.Phoenix on the other hand has the backing of the league,because expansion is the whole of the USA.IF,they do eventually move,it won't be Quebec,it will be Houston.They are trying to sell the game to people who are not yet fans.True,passionate hockey fans will watch and get behind a team reguardless.(The strike,Junior hockey was the winner).

Can the Hartford whalers comeback?

Yes! Bring them back so they can kick Montreal's ass!

Why Canada has their own dollar, for fucks sake just the Dollar the North America currency already

Gary bettman. That's why.

Hey Hockey Guy, Somethings has to give someday !!! If Canadian teams continue to collect revenue from the same Canadian fan base and continue to pay their players in US Dollars then that team will not survive any much longer if they become better Stanley Cup contenders. If you look at the Canadian based teams in the NHL outside of Montreal and Toronto, they won't survive too much longer if the disparity between Canadian teams and American teams become so great, thus creating an unfair advantage towards the US based teams. You wonder why their hasn't been a Canadian based team winning the coveted Stanley Cup since 1993??? Hmmm????

There is no problema what so ever all we fans have to do to see the cap drop is STOP going to the games!

Trois-Rivières should get a team even tho there's only around 140 000 person in the city

Makes no sense that a team that would be a direct rival to Montreal, wouldn’t survive. It would put more pressure on Montreal to be contenders. Never saying mtl has a chance of leaving, just saying they would be pressured to do better than Quebec. YEAH LETS KEEP A TEAM IN ARIZONA with a direct rival being their owners and management. More rivalries is better for the league and I think a rivalry would generate more money than the few points they lose on the Canadian vs American dollar. There’s no way Arizona would make more money than Quebec straight up. Bettman would move up in popularity if he brings Quebec back.

Move Carolina to Quebec. No one goes to their games.

I thought you had blonde hair? You had dark hair in 2017?

Simple. The CAD is too low, that's why... I can see the 32nd team being in Seattle and once the CAD is worth more, either Carolina, Arizona or Florida will relocate to Québec. The other two teams will probably relocate to Hartford and Saskatoon/Portland ideally. Then, we will have 32 teams that are well located finally.

Move Carolina to Quebec City.

Unpopular opinion but in a world where CAD is close to USD, I'd rather a team in Quebec than Columbus.

Oh pourqoui???MON Nordiques!!!They stole them!!!And then they win a cup-Mais NNNNNNNOOOOOOONNNNNNN!!!

Remote geographically. Small market. Another team in the East (come on!). Civil service town - like Ottawa (that couldn't even sell out for the playoffs).

How bout vancouver down to seattle? Or maybe the panthers to seattle? WA state always seemed to me like it should have a hockey team

Quebec City is questionable. It has a population of about 570,000. It has 13 corporate headquarters but it is located in the middle of nowhere. Perhaps Colorado can play some of their home games in the New Centre Vidéotron wearing Nordique sweaters. Maybe even the odd playoff game.

I wish Quebec had a team. I grew up in central Maine and my father's side is Acadian, so if Nordiques came back it would be great.

Canada has ENOUGH teams!!! Why not bring back the Atlanta Thrashers???

These sports industries are fucked up.

Arizona: Kansas City. Florida: Quebec City. Simple.

Sad really

Players are making way to much

Aren’t the Nordiques the Avalanche now