Just had a tree service from out of town doing work down the hill for a neighbor. My son stopped to ask him if he was willing to bring us some wood chips. He was planning to drive them back to his home town 25 minutes away. He jumped at the chance to dump them 2 minutes away. I asked him about the wood when he came to dump the chips and he said he’d bring us some of that too. Ended up getting 4 loads of chips and about 10 or 12 mature pine trees and a few decent size hardwood trees. All I have to do is cut it up, split it and stack it. Free wood is free wood and will keep me warm just as well as expensive hard wood I could pay to have delivered.
I burn alot of pine probably around 85 percent in an indoor wood stove that is also in a trailer house. I check the chimney about every 2 weeks never have more then a pie plate full of creosote in a run of uninsulated stovepipe 14 foot with 3 elbows. Good seasoned wood is the key. I am in northwest Wisconsin. I have access to all the major hardwoods but I sell that to the wood snobs. From 2 sawmills on the area I can get pine slabs for between 5 to 10 dollars for a 4' by 4' by 8' bundle 10 foot to 20 foot long bundles are a bit higher priced. 2 other sawmills that are 60 to 80 miles south of me pay me 200 dollars a semi load to take pine slabs and they bring 5 loads a week between the 2 places. I have several bandsaw mills that work on resawing the slabs into useable lumber or palletstock. Remember slabs are the outside of the tree grades normaly run higher then box store lumber is. Like the new intro.
Hey Jeff! Thanks for tuning in and sharing! SEMI truck loads? Now I wish I could get a few of those in here lol I am getting (hopefully) a grapple load next year from kevin. He has a huge project coming up and will set aside enough for a log truck hopefully. That way dad with his bobcat and I can load the blue saw horse I have and cut and restock the slabwood pile! Glad you like the new intro and thanks for the feedback!
Talk to a logger that's hauling in your area. Most would be willing to haul slabs back cheap because it's almost the same fuel cost as empty to go back home. We process around 2000 full cord of slabwood 200 semi loads give or take a year. Out of that about 300 full firewood 4x4x8 foot cords are produced. The other 1700 cord is pulled as lumber mainly used for pallets just because of length of stock. All of my equipment is electric ran off of solar had to eliminate fuel costs. We are not grid tied solar either had to make that point many times to both the electric company and the county. 1 wants cheap electric the other tax revenues from fuel. Keep up the good work and don't let the nah sayers get you down
Compared to fir, pine burns about 20% more wood than fir. I know hardwoods burn more efficiently. But compared to other softwoods, pine burns too darn fast, I just don't want to cut more wood than needed. I'm lazy.
I love splitting pine! Don't even have to hit it, just drop the axe from chest height, and 9/10 it pops apart! I Use it as campfire wood, both as kindling, and as a turbo boost for when the hardwoods do what they do and go into low and slow mode. I'm in W. NY- TRY and find anyone, aside from roadside stands, selling anything BUT hard hardwoods... Nothing in the world smells like a pine/spruce campfire!
Yeah im sure you saw how easily that split lol most of this is cut offs from premium timber frame logs so there are little limbs/knots so this dry straight grain splits just by looking at it lol thanks for coming on by!
Yep, a match stick! Where I live, we only have pine and other conifers. Only way I can get a fire to last all night in my wood stove is to crank the stove up very hot, then put big rounds of unseasoned pine in it, and close the damper. Fire burns cooler and slower, and catalyst burns the smoke as secondary fuel so that it doesn’t end up coating the stove pipe with creosote. If I don’t start with a very hot fire, the green wood won’t catch. If I don’t use green wood, the stove is cold by morning.
I never understand boiler users who rail against using pine (or other soft woods). I love adding some to mine and I heat with more of it in the fall/early spring. Some states are primarily pine states, so it's not like they have a choice! Good stuff, brother!
Exactly! Nh has a lot of red and white pine and also hemlock. My land itself has about 50 percent pine so if I can season it im burning it lol I know you know cause you have the same "style" wood boiler lol
You burn the wood that's readily available in abundance where you live. Where I live, pine is actually quite scarce and I burn hardwoods. Each wood has it's virtues and it's drawbacks. Elm is more dense than pine and doesn't need as much time to season. But, it's a bear to split by hand. Some pieces are tough for even a log splitter. Pine is easy to split. But it has to be very thoroughly seasoned or you'll end up with a creosote mess. Once you get used to a certain wood, that's the best for you.
Couldnt agree more with you! We have about 50 percent pine forest and we also have the sawmill connection so pine fits the bill sometimes. To me the pine is worthless so id rather burn all my pine each year then the hardwoods since the hardwoods are harder (no pun there) to come by hahah.
I mostly burn hardwood because that’s mostly what grows on my land. Having said that I absolutely love burning pine, it smells great. It burns hot, and heats up the house quickly in the off-season and does not make any more creosote than hardwood.
You nailed it as long as its well seasoned theres no issue! I burn pine in my shop stove and it burns fast and hot and gets the place up to temp quickly much faster than the hardwoods!
You cant burn pine.... LOL... My family has burned free pine slabs for the wood dump for 40 years. We had a man made saw rig to cut the slabs down. it had a Huge saw disc blade with an old car frame and a rim to attach a huge belt. A simple back and forth platform made cutting easy and fast. A hot fire and a good cleaning keeps any danger away. AND we are from the North East!!!
Not sure why this is such a big issue, most people do not have an option of softwood/hardwood either due to cost or availability. Most burn what they can get their hands on.
I use hemlock and hard wood I get by the cord, my hemlock is 20$ a ton and I just have to cut it into pieces, it’s all slab wood (live edge) from mills. And I just split it down and I have indoor burner, primary source of heat. When it’s single digits outside I can keep the main part of the house 70-80 degrees.
Really enjoyed the intro and new banner....really stands out!! Good for you to take some time off to spend with the family....gotta do that!! I burn quite a bit of pine but there usually rounds!! The slab wood I usually get is hardwood because there nice fat slabs and the pine is typically really thin and wouldn't make good boiler wood!! My pine rounds are whatever I can't send down the road to the papermills for pulp!! Stay safe my friend!!
Personally I think any intros with stupid canned music are annoying and frankly, stupid. I clicked on your video to see why you think pine is the bast wood, not to listen to some stupid canned music intro. Get to your point. Just tell me why pine is the best wood. I was going to disagree, but, now that I see what you're using it in, I don't have an opinion for that. It's for sure not the best for use in a fireplace, unless you want to burn your house down.....
I watched your video on throwing loose wood into your trailer and then you stacked it. I have a 8 foot by 5 foot by 3 feet tall trailer if I just throw the wood in it that a half cord or more you think??
Well a stacked 4' X 4' X 8' pile is exactly a cord so your trailer is rougly 1 cord inner dimension so loose throwing id say a half cord maybe a touch over!
If you want a chimney fire, use pine. A good firestarter. But the resin is a hazard for every chimney if you use too much of it for too long without cleaning.
I burn95% pine , all species. Mine is a Central Boiler built in 1998. I will crack the door ever so often and let it roar and it will incinerate any creosote built up in the chimney.
I ran a tree service for a guy for 2 years....we sold the good hardwoods for firewood and we used all the pine for the boiler....the boiler supplied 2 houses...we never split it either just seasoned a year or 2 and cut up in chunks
I have mostly Ponderosa pine and California Back Oak on my place, and I burn at least 80% pine. As long as a guy is not allergic to getting up on the roof once in a while to sweep the chimney, it is just fine. If I had more Douglas Fir, I would certainly prefer that, but in my neck of the woods pine will do. The bonus is that the chunks with branches are usually quite pitchy and burn like napalm.
It's a misconception that pine will put extra cresote in your chimney compared to hardwoods. As long as it's properly seasoned it's not going to add anymore cresote compared to hardwood. The whole myth of pine putting out more cresote is because there due tend to be more chimney fires after burning pine, but that's because pine burns super hot, and does tend to crackle shooting off little embers, both of which are causes of igniting the cresote already in your chimney. It burns great, but it's not very dense so you'll go through it quick
Hey Rich! You are correct! Ive burned 4 cords of pine this season and just cleaned the chimney ( next video coming out ) and it was mint and had no buildup! The key is seasoned wood indeed like you said!
I burn a lot of pine in my outdoor furnace plus a lot of dead Elm. The problem with only burning pine is it doesn't leave many coals, so you have to burn it with some hardwood too.
ALL wood contains about the same BTU content PER POUND. So then it becomes a question of density of the wood for any given volume. A cord (the volume) of pine is likely in the 12 million BTU range versus a cord of white oak/hickory in the 26 million BTU range. While both will burn and produce heat, it takes the same amount of time to cut/split/feed-the-stove with either.....SO if "I" have a choice, I'm burning hardwood. Many area don't have that choice and HAVE to burn softwoods.
Yes I was just saying this to others as well. If we had an all hardwood forest thats what Id burn but we dont we have about 50/50 plus the sawmill connection is something I dont want to give up since its free and easy to process! Thank you for sharing the stats! Wood heat is fascinating!
I live in NE Ark in the Ozark foothills. Pine dont naturally grow here. The CCC planted some many decades ago. now a days Stupid folks plant them. They plant them right on the property lines. and then they grow up and storms cause them to fall on the power lines. Our Coop lost almost all the distribution lines in a epic ice storm. They went and cut every pine tree or other tree remotely close to the power lines. And sprayed every stump with poison. Best thing ever. Now pine beetles have invaded and are killing the remaining pines. Makes me happy. We have plenty of dying oak trees to make good firewood from the tree boer beetle
Good stuff! Its perfect to mix in. Whats nice too is that the pine relights easy when the damper opens up which helps the larger rounds re catch too lol
In all fairness as a woodburner here in the northeast for 50 plus years we forget the pine, too hot, likely to start a chimney fire.. BTU's, lots, longevity not so much. Great to start a fire with..that's about it, peace.
The best firewood is the firewood you can get for free. I have tons of avocado wood. It's a hard wood, but it burns faster than other woods, but it burns hot. Also, I don't split firewood because it's the wood from an entire tree that died, some small branches, some larger trunk pieces. The larger logs burn WAY longer than the same logs split into smaller pieces. The largest logs are no more than around two feet in diameter. Obviously, if all you have are huge trunk pieces, you have to do some splitting.
Yes free is for me as well! I did a video on that larger rounds burn slower I get about 40% more burn time from an unsplit round versus full split! Thanks for tuning in!
I live in the west, east of the Cascade Range. There are many types of pine west and east of the Cascades, but the only pines considered good firewood are tamarack and lodge pole. Firewood is rated here by heat output, accessibility and availability. Juniper has always been the best non-hardwood, but the best of it is almost gone. Oak is easily accessible on the west side of the Cascades, but not much on the east slope Tamarack and Larch is almost as good and is available in places. Next would be Lodge Pole and is readily available. The rest of the Pines including pine limbs are garbage in comparison. Sort of like the answer to food, "It will make a turd". They will make a fire if you keep them dry, but you have to stand a little closer to the stove! Good red juniper doesn't absorb moisture so you can stack it outside without a problem. There are a number of hardwoods west of the Cascades that are excellent wood. Oak and Madrone are probably the most popular hardwood because of their availability, but mahogany is just as good, but much harder to use and to find in abundance. If you can find Alder it is a great firewood as well.
All the way back to the 50,s old timers said burn the least amount of pine in fireplaces because of large deposits of resin in chimneys.A possible fire hazard also a bitch to clean.But it easily the fastest burner as I remember.
I'm in my 70's been around wood burning my whole life. If I'm spending my time cutting firewood, it damn sure isn't going to be pine. Although I did make my wood shed from pine,lol. Interesting video.
I burn a lot of pine and always have. I practice normal chimney maintenance and in 25 years, I have never had a creosote problem. I live in Georgia, where we have scads and scads of pine firewood. So for us, it looks like pine for years to come. Incidentally, I like your new channel intro. This is my first visit, so I have no idea what the old intro looked like. I think I may be your first new sub.
Thank you Rob! People who complain about pine never burned it correctly. You are spot on DRY pine and a clean chimney is key for success! Thanks for watching hope you enjoyed!
This video is for a wood boiler, you clearly never ran one. You can burn pine in these 24/7 but your gonna burn up your coals. What do you think people do out west?? With ponderosa pine, Hemlocks, doug firs? Tell them pine is BS and see how that works! Thanks for tuning in though! :)
pine is a good firewood. Well NO! It is a good fire starter. Not good for burning constant heat. It burns fast and hot pine does. Hickory is a good fire wood. Just sayin
I like to burn PINE too. It produces HOT red coals and puts out great heat. For some you early learning stuff about wood, it's not the flames that put out the heat, it's the red coals. Pioneers burned pine and it was they had depending on where they settled. GOOD VIDEO Jay.
Hey Larry. Pine is a great wood indeed! Some Of the best pine to burn for firewood is out west in the ponderosa pines. Hemlock is good too as it has a tighter density than regular white pine! Either way I burn it all hahah
In washington. We have oak madrona fir pine any many many others. I think fir is the best wood. It is in abundance the cure time is one season. I work full time an this past year sold 300 cord as a side hustle. Id still pick fir over the oak or madrona. Majority of people dont have room to store wood for multiple years.
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I have been told by one of the companies who manufactures gasification wood boilers the they love pine so do you think you would do a gasification boiler when this one dies? When I finally get one I’m going to get the stainless steel version because it has a 20 year firebox warranty! The one brand I like is the wood gun and they say that it will burn wood of up to 30% moisture!
I will go gasification as I can not "legally" get a non gasification unit as they are deemed "commercial use only" which can be be worked around but I feel like I would like to step up to the gasification units. I have learned a lot and have a decent amount of equipment now I feel I can have enough split seasoned wood both pine and hardwood for one of those units.
Hey is your outdoor Wood boiler loop running to a heat exchanger to heat your oil boiler loop in your house and you use the oil boiler loop to heat everything? (I suppose I’m asking if there are two separate loops that are connected via a heat exchanger)
That is correct! So when the OWB is running it heats the loop that would normally be heated by the oil furnace. During the summer when the OWB is not running I close those valves and shut the pumps off then the oil resumes any heat demand.
Also if the OWB burns out there is a "switch" that will trigger the oil to turn on which will "reverse the polarity" of the process and take heated water from the home side and run it through heat exchanger which will keep the owb loop water at 130 degrees ( not freezing and circulating ) Every time I explain it its still so fascinating to me lol
Pine is fine - in case you are satisfied with big amount of soot, maybe is easier to your clean boiler, then my 8 m high chimney, or if you havent another choice
If you are going to split alot, get a splitting axe. Loose the maul. I used one of those for years. Splitting Axe like a Fiskars or a Hybrid will split those logs much easiers.
Not really. There are really good mauls available, like 3 kg Mueller and 5 lb Scandinavians, that put toys like Fiskars to shame. IMO. Axes cut, mauls split, FWIW.
I disagree. The maul and the axe are two different animals! The "splitting axe" versus the "splitting maul" are two different animals. This 8lb maul will split way more than my 4lb splitting axe. They are two different animals
@@HomesteadJay IME an 8 lb maul is heavier than optimum. 6 lb is close, but 5 lb is about perfect. 3 kg is quite workable. Probably more important is head shape and edge.
Pine species generally have a higher BTU content per weight than hardwoods at same moisture level depending on pitch content. But pine is less dense, so even though it cuts faster a greater volume of wood needs to be handled, thus it is often considered to be less desirable. Also, it burns quickly leaving no coals so will not hold heat in most stoves used here in the U.S. Pine use excels in masonry heaters sometimes called Russian stoves that originated in northern regions where only softwoods are available. Here the heat from a hot quick fire is captured in the masonry mass and radiates back an even heat from one or two firings a day. Because these stoves are only fired wide open, thus extremely hot, creosote is not a concern.
when you say wide open masonry stoves.....what about wide open fireplaces? can you elaborate? I have been burning pine here in south jersey for years, I burn it hot and no real creosote build up. the fireplace goes through wood pretty fast, i dont use it as a primary heat source, but use it during very cold periods and on holidays. I tend to mix it with hardwood, but I dont see much problem with it.
@@harryharry3193 Go look up Rocket Mass Heaters. It is not the heater that is "wide open" it is that the heater is burned while "wide open", which means it is configured for maximum airflow and the fastest and most complete combustion, and therefore the most efficient burn. The heat is captured and re-emitted over time, so the short actual duration of the burning isn't a downside. It's just like charging a heat battery.
I'm not a fan of intros on RU-vid videos. An intro of more than a few seconds shows a disrespect for the viewer's time. Get right to the meat of the video. Intros and outtros in TV shows and movies serve as a background for showing the credits. That's not why youtubers run intros. Sometimes I think youtubers run long intros to get 30 seconds more view time which can add up to hundreds of hours for someone who posts a lot of videos. Anything longer than 6 seconds is too long. I have unsubscribed and blocked channels from my feed because they waste too much of my time with intros and other useless filler. Sorry to be so harsh but you asked what we think.
Pine is like a gasoline candle. It burns too hot, too fast. Damages equipment, doesn't last and burning pitch is bad news in a chimney. Obviously it's becoming one of those things the next generation did not get passed down. There is a reason these northeast states do not burn white pine. Considering we have so much of it one should ask themselves why.
Anything's better than tulip poplar, yellow pine isn't bad as firewood but it does burn fast due to relatively low density and makes more chimney creosote than other woods.
@@HomesteadJay Another benefit in favor of yellow pine is it's more forgiving in terms of seasoning. I guess other species of pine are similar, I don't have experience with them. I do have to be more vigilant concerning chimney maintenance with yellow pine's additional creosote.
@@zachary3777 If tulip poplar is all you've got, then go with it. A fast growing softwood species and due to low resin content, it doesn't deposit near as much creosote in comparison to the more resinous species such as pine for example, as properly seasoned. Poplar is one of the easiest to split due to the straight grain and makes decent kindling.
@@thisisyourcaptainspeaking2259 it is most certainly a hardwood. Albeit a softer one. It dries quickly. Ash or oak is preferable, but poplar isn't so bad.
Mabe so but in general these things even if you burn dry wood are not very clean or efficient just saying. What is the gr/hr that these dirty things burn at? Blaze Kings have gr/hr from 1.26- 0.4 with an efficiency of 80%. My guess these things do not even come close 🙂 @@HomesteadJay
I have no idea, dont matter to me. all i know it was here, we are using it, and its keeping our house warm and hot water tank full. Im riding this bus till the wheels fall off. :)
