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Why Pogačar Will Win The Tour + Was Vingegaard’s 1x A Mistake? - Wild Ones Pro Show TdF Stage 4 

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@darrelduke
@darrelduke 2 дня назад
the beauty and the tradgedy of a grand tour is that anything can happen at anytime. we have a long way to go.
@ChrisHallRides
@ChrisHallRides 2 дня назад
Good fun talking about bike racing
@kimreik
@kimreik 2 дня назад
Thanks for doing that! Your level of knowledge and understanding of the tour mechanics is on par with Eurosport commentators on a good day.
@redkeyspoke
@redkeyspoke 2 дня назад
Yes, good mention of Bini for green, he's certainly mixing it up in the intermediates!
@olafkon
@olafkon 2 дня назад
You should have Chris on daily during the tour podcasts. He clearly adds some depth of knowledge and knows both tactics and tech as well as stats and has some racing pedigree. So he makes the perfect "expert."
@redkeyspoke
@redkeyspoke 2 дня назад
Yes, no disrespect to Tony but I'm enjoying this one with Chris much more.
@neilashton9459
@neilashton9459 2 дня назад
100% agree - Chris is excellent. And anyone with enough gumption to ride a TT bike on a trainer for 5 hours deserves more air time.
@Czechbound
@Czechbound 2 дня назад
I love these updates after a day's TdF racing. Come on Cavendish ! Greetings team from Prague. CZ
@Tbo1235
@Tbo1235 День назад
Big. Up Amy cycling adventures
@bonvoyage5377
@bonvoyage5377 2 дня назад
Cant see anyone staying with poggy, hes just too good, he can climb, sprint well enough, and has incredible endurance, I think he will have a go at all 3
@Gufolicious
@Gufolicious 2 дня назад
Jonas knows now how pog felt the last 2 years with his non existent team
@mathieuaf25
@mathieuaf25 2 дня назад
Seeing Jonas alone surrounded by uae was quite a shocker! For sure didnt help his confidence
@miche_amico
@miche_amico 2 дня назад
Pog had a very good team last year
@iCycle086
@iCycle086 2 дня назад
The Sepp loss cannot be overstated here. Never seen visma dominated as a team that way.
@MarvinWestmaas
@MarvinWestmaas 2 дня назад
Kuss and Kruiswijk are missed, and WvA has trained to be the best he can in the classics which were his main goal this year so don't expect him to be good in the high mountains like he once was. Still, it's just the start of the tour. Kelderman isn't Kuss, but also always has his best week at the end if he stays on his bike long enough. And Mateo will I think grow a bit, but even if he doesn't it's his debut so I don't expect him to fill Kruiswijks shoes right away.
@LeeLee-fi7mx
@LeeLee-fi7mx 2 дня назад
UAE led the UCI point ranking last year, and Yates had a podium finish at the Tour. UAE was very strong last year. Jonas was just better. Too bad he's coming into this year's Tour recovering from what could have been career ending injuries.
@user-ul9ln8wg6d
@user-ul9ln8wg6d День назад
Thoroughly appreciate how well everyone is pronouncing Vingegaard!
@MEB939
@MEB939 День назад
How can people just assume Vingegaard will definitely be stronger the third week? He may, or he may be just more worn out or miles behind by then, we have no way of knowing how his endurance and recovery have been affected by his crash. Something must give if you lose two months of training
@MichaelBoogerd
@MichaelBoogerd 2 дня назад
I mean Jonas can always attack to try to win back time, but with Ayuso, Almeida (and Yates who i think is holdingback to week 3 a la Kuss) then Pogi has plenty of allies to help to bring him back or limit the damage to seconds.
@Jenito120
@Jenito120 2 дня назад
Poggi is not some1 to be attacked easily
@KnowIt74
@KnowIt74 2 дня назад
Well not on the last time Trial... And if he die like last year in the mountains no one can help him.
@tonyg3091
@tonyg3091 2 дня назад
@@KnowIt74 Last year Jonas had a team. This year he has some distant approximation of one,
@KnowIt74
@KnowIt74 2 дня назад
@@tonyg3091 You are right... But Pig had a good team last year and a very good team this year... So if/when pog lose he and his fanboys have no more excuses.
@MM93_SV5
@MM93_SV5 2 дня назад
@@KnowIt74 last year he also had a broken wrist and a cold.
@MartinBrown-mb7pz
@MartinBrown-mb7pz День назад
You guys are getting monster daily views for these. Well done!
@bayer048
@bayer048 День назад
Love your daily stuff guys - keep going!
@richardfarias2920
@richardfarias2920 2 дня назад
At last someone who knows what he's talking about when it comes to TdF with a humble smile and soft honesty that is so enduring. AND .... What does he do??? He's on the trainer during the stage!! He's a BEAST and a great man. CHRIS HALL is in the room !!!! Yes! Loved his analysis and opinions. On par with Lanterne Rogue (Patrick) Great guest star ⭐⭐⭐✨✨.
@denisspratt926
@denisspratt926 2 дня назад
I think Jonas is getting into form. So for the 2 half I think he will be better. And the last 3-4 mountainstages is in the south so they might get really hot. And Pogacar has cracked quite bad in the heat before. So anything can happen still. And Visma doesn't ride Zipp cause they ride Reserve which is Cervelos own wheels. So they haven´t picked the wheels themselves.
@clayvianwilliams6125
@clayvianwilliams6125 2 дня назад
Pogi does a lot of heat training for this TDF so the heat wont affect him this time.
@ptbot3294
@ptbot3294 День назад
@@clayvianwilliams6125 Hope so, but he is clearly someone who's willing to work on his weakness. Look at him at Giro, he was on TT bike all the time to improve his TT form.
@denisspratt926
@denisspratt926 День назад
@@clayvianwilliams6125 We´ll see. He can´t really have done that much training in the heat during the 5 weeks between the giro and the tour. And before the Giro it wasn't really that hot yet. So well see what happens if it gets as warm as last year during the tour.
@clayvianwilliams6125
@clayvianwilliams6125 День назад
@@denisspratt926 He trained in heat room for the tour where they control the temperature to mimic summer.
@denisspratt926
@denisspratt926 День назад
@@clayvianwilliams6125 ok. Might he a good idea but also might have destroyed his recovery from the Giro.
@schschsch2642
@schschsch2642 2 дня назад
Abrahamsen said they only had small sizes for the polkadot. He had problems getting into the skinsuit
@we1rd92
@we1rd92 2 дня назад
Love those daily uploads, keep it up guys
@davidjenkins2011
@davidjenkins2011 День назад
Guys this content is flippen excellent! Bravo
@cb6866
@cb6866 2 дня назад
Thanks Chris , Emily , and Jimmi...4 stages , and already buzzing !
@prentissberry7691
@prentissberry7691 2 дня назад
This show is amazing thank you for everything
@Murda2615
@Murda2615 2 дня назад
It’s so easy to talk about this triple because none of us are doing it but it’s a tremendous amount of abuse on the body to possibly not win. And then no shot at the Olympics or worlds. He’s made it clear he isn’t doing it
@J-cz7yv
@J-cz7yv 2 дня назад
@@Murda2615 the big check he gets for doing the vuelta may prove otherwise. The viewership numbers for Vuelta would go way up if Pog wins Le Tour and competes in that race. Money talks
@Murda2615
@Murda2615 2 дня назад
@@J-cz7yv yea but he understands the reality that so many people aren’t thinking about. He could possibly completely blow up and then what. The juice just ain’t worth the squeeze to him. Not everything that’s important to all these fans may not be the same for him people don’t consider that
@J-cz7yv
@J-cz7yv 2 дня назад
@@Murda2615 oh my guys I think we are on the same page though. If his agent is any bit smart, you would never commit to the vuelta. Say you’re doing worlds and that’s your focus, if he can finish the Tour on top… that’s when the organizers and sponsors will come begging with the money bags for his participation in the vuelta.
@Murda2615
@Murda2615 2 дня назад
@@J-cz7yv but even when he wins the tour I don’t think he will commit. Also not just the wear on him but the rest of the team
@J-cz7yv
@J-cz7yv 2 дня назад
@@Murda2615 maybe! We will see though! I like to think that any person on the team selected for Vuelta would be more than thrilled to participate in history regardless of missing next 1-2 months of races. And I don’t mean to harp on this point to much but those riders would be compensated more than fairly. Possibly I’m judging being romantic about the idea of a triple. lol it’s a long way away and like you said, the signs indicate he doesn’t intend to do it! (Yet 😉)
@johnnymack1408
@johnnymack1408 День назад
Waiting in anticipation for this next TDF vid! I took a days holiday at work as I had a hope today would be the day! Get in Cav lad!!!!!
@pierremaggi8661
@pierremaggi8661 2 дня назад
Carapaz has been riding is gold bike since he's been with EF. Ironically the colour is more bronze-like than gold...
@jomateix77
@jomateix77 День назад
Alejandro Valverde attempted the 3 Gandtours in 2016 finishing 3rd at the Giro, 6th at the Tour and 12th at the Vuelta ;-)
@EricMichaelManuel
@EricMichaelManuel 2 дня назад
Absent incident or accident, it's over. Jonas is going to fade, no one else is close. Some day we'll see these two monsters have a good fully prepared battle again. This year isn't it.
@JoeCincotta307
@JoeCincotta307 2 дня назад
Yes Chris Hall ! Almost all of my favorite peeps together.
@thefollandgnat8628
@thefollandgnat8628 2 дня назад
Who is this guy, some sort of survival expert? Can we have Ray Mears on too?
@MattyBrad
@MattyBrad День назад
​@@thefollandgnat8628Pretty much. Animal on the bike.
@mortigard
@mortigard 2 дня назад
Triple!!! Hell yeah! I bet Pogacar is waiting to make the announcement until after he wins the Tour. Also, I am really impressed with Remco. It's only stage 4, but he has ridden smart and strong. I'm really excited for the TT. He'll claw back some time on Pogacar is my guess.
@WesternUranus
@WesternUranus 2 дня назад
Nothing is done, have you seen the third week ? It will be a different Jonas then with plenty of rest. I do hope he does the vuelta for a historic triple but I'm not sure he can and want to ride a third grand tour.
@mortigard
@mortigard 2 дня назад
@@WesternUranus I hope Jonas recovers! This really seems like a Tour de France for the ages. I hope to tell my toddler stories about the epic battles for the 2024 TdF! So far, it hasn't disappointed at all. ❤️
@Nova-dy6fq
@Nova-dy6fq 2 дня назад
The triple he cares about is Giro, Tour world championships not Vuelta. He's said all year that's the goal and the world's course is the most favorable to him that it will be for a while.
@salvadorreyeszuniga6112
@salvadorreyeszuniga6112 2 дня назад
Emily's edit on "Fluff up of the day" is too much 😂
@paullinnitt5450
@paullinnitt5450 День назад
Strictly the green jersey is for most consistent finisher as most points are from the finish. Usually sprinters will get this as they are not content to finish in the main bunch (where everyone gets the same time)
@gofras
@gofras День назад
Awesome show guys - keep it up! Personally, I don't believe Pog is going for a triple unless he feels exceptionally good after Tour is over (which is highly unlikely). Mind you, Vuelta starts less than a month after. Tour/Vuelta double this year will be much harder than Giro/Tour.
@sethera6049
@sethera6049 День назад
8:04 Chris called it 🎉🎉🎉
@626kanwar
@626kanwar 2 дня назад
Liked the old bike shopesque background! Are y'all in a new location??
@johnbienaszii7729
@johnbienaszii7729 2 дня назад
Thank you. Its 98 not 88 as some outlets have said instead.
@chrisko6439
@chrisko6439 2 дня назад
Wtf, 1x? Maybe today, at the pro rider's speed, chain line might be still sorta ok on the relatively shallow climbs today, at the steeper stuff, horrible chainline would cost too much power.
@SpockCycles
@SpockCycles День назад
Will be Closer than we all think, stage 9 is the break away stage. This is where every rider will go full beans and push. Be interesting to see how things look after stage 9 in Troyes.
@dynamo6735
@dynamo6735 2 дня назад
Thing is Jonas doesnt have nearly the same team as in the last 2 editions, he cant put whole visma train a climb or 2 on the front to set a crazy pace to wear Pogi down before he attacks him. Its totally opposite in this tour.
@knudskoubo1090
@knudskoubo1090 День назад
That is actually funny to read... If Visma pulls Pogi will be worn down and if UAE pulls Jonas will be worn down... That is not how that works... It is correct that a strong team is a big strategic help but it is Jonas or Pogi that needs the legs to win... In 2020 Pogi won with a weak team
@dynamo6735
@dynamo6735 День назад
@@knudskoubo1090 if you are down in week3 and want to attack, but dont have the team to wear down your opponent they are much more likely to follow your attacks, in this case if pogi has some time over vingegaard in week3 obviously UAE wont pace like crazy so pogi will be pretty "fresh" if/when vingegaard attacks comapred to if visma could pace hard climb or 2 before... hell by the way UAE are looking maybe even ayuso/yates or almedia anwser his attacks instead of pogi...
@Chiller11
@Chiller11 2 дня назад
His Vietnam era tiger striped cammo is definitely old school.
@bggesports74
@bggesports74 День назад
thanks Emily for mentioning the sole reason Jonas was running 1x was because of marketing. you're in la la land if you think running 1x gives you any advantage in a TDF mountain stage
@tomllama2
@tomllama2 2 дня назад
I really appreciate the energy and enthusiasm you guys put into this show. I like Patrik and Benji on LRCP but they have so little energy in the way they talk that it makes it a bit of a boring watch at times. You guys keep it fresh with guests each episode and don't get bogged down arguing over speculative tactical decisions for 30 minutes. Love the podcast, keep it up!
@mickdoan7534
@mickdoan7534 2 дня назад
With Jonas's ribs can he be strong in that TT position?
@__uorson
@__uorson День назад
you guys are killing it with these digests. thank you.
@zzhughesd
@zzhughesd 2 дня назад
Mr. Hall. Old school Cade!!
@ForwardLooking832
@ForwardLooking832 2 дня назад
The "GCN racing" and "GCN" YT channels did a run down on the jersey colors and points systems and how the points change based on the category of climb/sprint as well. There are several videos on the topic from overview to more indepth. It was good to watch when a newbie trying to understand.
@reubenboniface7835
@reubenboniface7835 2 дня назад
Good post-stage yarns. 👍
@n.heroep2786
@n.heroep2786 2 дня назад
Contador also did the treble. But not in the same calendar year.
@TheGotoGeek
@TheGotoGeek 15 часов назад
No one gets stronger over the course of the Tour. Some riders just degrade more slowly. Vingegaard is likely to have a similar Tour to Pog’s last year.
@markchadburn6102
@markchadburn6102 2 дня назад
Where did chris get that awesome tiger stripe jacket, I also in my heart think that if pogi wins the tour the pressure for him to try for the triple will be almost impossible for pogi ti not go fir it
@paulcallan8769
@paulcallan8769 2 дня назад
Hello from Ireland! Hey Chris....where did you get your hat?
@dutypaidrock
@dutypaidrock День назад
With JV only going to get better as the tour goes on, I think Pog will actually be disappointed not to be minutes ahead by now.
@vlbz
@vlbz 2 дня назад
That's one pretty bike. Like rusty, but gold.
@landiepete
@landiepete День назад
Pogy stated in an interview that he only went full gas in the last 200m of the climb because of the very strong headwind.
@charlesmansplaining
@charlesmansplaining День назад
Do you really count everything a Pro says in an interview as true and informative? No matter what sport it is the interviews are a joke.
@nsrikumaran
@nsrikumaran День назад
Missed out Annemiek van Vleuten’s quadruple in 22 (I think), also became world champ!
@out_spocken
@out_spocken 2 дня назад
I'm surprised Pog didn't go earlier. He seems go always go really late, at least compared to attacks of the past. I mean he smashed it...and who am I...but would he not have made an even bigger gap going early and where the chances of people joining up on the downhill would be less?
@FringaleABloc
@FringaleABloc День назад
Shame on you for not knowing Marc Madiot 😮
@georgec2894
@georgec2894 День назад
Double shame! Only a double Paris-Roubaix winner, Tour de France stage winner, been involved in pro level cycling for 43 of the last 45 years!! 😅
@pizzathehut2001
@pizzathehut2001 День назад
Hello garmin sponsored cade media question, after my activity my garmin watch tells me how long it will take to recover, I guess this feature is on head units, so what does a pros say after a tdf stage and how bad will look after the entire tour.
@joli577
@joli577 2 дня назад
Pog puts another minute in V in the upcoming TT.
@J-cz7yv
@J-cz7yv 2 дня назад
Yeah probably. No slip stream for Jonas to hide in and we saw the power difference on a downhill… so yeah probably at least a minute.
@fangru7294
@fangru7294 День назад
​@@J-cz7yvI agree he wil take time but I think it will be like 25sec cuz its pretty short.
@brendavane9148
@brendavane9148 День назад
Nice shaket.
@erichgerber251
@erichgerber251 День назад
Great report - but your prediction of Jonas being faster on the TT will prove wrong
@CoolGray7Man
@CoolGray7Man 2 дня назад
Did you see Jonas' face when he crossed the finish line, he was exhausted. He was wasted but both Jonas and Tadej recover pretty amazingly.
@rof8200
@rof8200 День назад
That's true. If Sepp Kuss was there, he might have been able to help Jonas down
@keepingtherubberdown5715
@keepingtherubberdown5715 2 дня назад
I personally though Jonas was spun on out the descent.. He could have used a bigger front ring as we was in the 10 from what I could see on the coverage. Plus, I think he was a tad gun shy on the descent as we was not directly behind tadej
@buzzman4860
@buzzman4860 2 дня назад
he was dropped on the descent for 2 reasons: Tadej weighs more than Jonas, and being a smaller person Jonas has less total power. Watts per Kilogram mean nothing on a downhill. It's total watts. What was keeping Jonas close for a little while is that he can corner better than Tadej but weight and power won out.
@charlesmansplaining
@charlesmansplaining День назад
@@buzzman4860 That's true, but common sense or lack there of can also win or loose a bike race. Pogi rode stupidly on that descend IMO. There was no need to put on the show he did especially since it didn't really gain him that much time.
@JHA854
@JHA854 День назад
UAE look much stronger than Visma this year, I can't see Vingegaard getting the support he would need to win it. Even if Vingegaard was fully fit and didn't have his injury, it would be a huge ask
@glennoc8585
@glennoc8585 День назад
With that backdrop chris looks like he's about to on a stag hunt. Jonas still has time but i think he hasn't got his mojo back 100% no doubt
@cheekeanng7820
@cheekeanng7820 День назад
After the descent and flat to the finishing line there was many turnings, it doesn't favor the train much on a high speed ... no?
@donkorleone20
@donkorleone20 2 дня назад
nice job showing some videos from the race even if they were filmed on someone's nokia 👍
@pibil8052
@pibil8052 День назад
yellow bar take looks nice
@kamucho
@kamucho День назад
Giro fatigue to kick in in the latter stages of the tour for Pog as Jonas hits his best form at the same times. If Jumbos team can stay strong deep into the race Jonas is in with a chance to take it late on
@fangru7294
@fangru7294 День назад
Thats just assumption. I could say that Tadej will get even stronger and Jonas will have bad day because his recovery is not as it was good last year thanks to his injuries...
@TheCyclingCardio
@TheCyclingCardio 2 дня назад
Yatessss were so strooong
@josehansen13
@josehansen13 2 дня назад
Another great episode! Easier english guest for a non native listner
@HudoHudHudec
@HudoHudHudec 20 часов назад
UAE have one big flaw... he is called Ayuso. And if they don't settle this thing out ASAP, there will be consequences later in the race.
@milhouse53
@milhouse53 2 дня назад
When you see Grischa in an interview, you need to watch his eyes, smile and tone of voice. It will tell you whether this was their plan and how Jonas feels and how many secrets they hold. They cant show all their cards. That team is as sleazy as it gets
@sepg5084
@sepg5084 День назад
We will know who will win when the winner gets announced.
@kjaime7030
@kjaime7030 День назад
Spoken too soon. This is not the first time Pogacar has come into the first week of the Tour fighting full blast... only to be depleted--relative to Vingegaard--in week three. That is far more likely this year because he has had very little time to recover since the Giro. Everyone expected Tadej to be ahead after Stage One, and Stage Two was perfectly suited to Pogacar's style and performance. Bingegaard does better with long series of high mountains, which will come in two weeks, by which time Jonas will be even stronger post-Basque-crash than he clearly already is (to everyone's surprise). Visma is definitely missing Kuss and Van Aert is not yet as good as expected, but the latter should also gain progressive strength during the race as well, and I think thus far, UAE has not been as stellar as one would expect on paper.
@shepshape2585
@shepshape2585 2 дня назад
Not only is Ving not 100%, but without Kuss and Roglic, and Wout not being 100%, there's no way Ving can beat Pog. Pog has all the guns with him this year, and there's no way they let him lose.
@freddyatlarge
@freddyatlarge 2 дня назад
Early days, sometimes the obvious isn't so obvious. Considering what Jonas has been through recovering from a crash, he is playing possum. Wait wait wait, Jonas will be opening that can of Woop arse soon enough.
@RyonBeachner
@RyonBeachner 2 дня назад
For Visma to do the triple with three different riders was unheard of last year. Has any one rider ever won all three in the same season?
@MarvinWestmaas
@MarvinWestmaas 2 дня назад
No. Triple Crown is considered to be Giro-TdF-WC ( World championships ). And I think it's been done twice. Vuelta does not have same standing as Giro or Tour.
@dynamo6735
@dynamo6735 2 дня назад
@@MarvinWestmaas Vuelta is 30years or so younger than giro and tour, thats why back in the days giro-tdf-wc was considered a triple crown and i mean it still is ofc. Tho it seems to be pretty clear that winning all 3 GT in a season is much harder since it has never been done before.
@TerjeRiisnaes
@TerjeRiisnaes 2 дня назад
I was very surprised to see Vingegaard on an S5. I wonder why???
@Datboyvideo
@Datboyvideo 2 дня назад
Given UCIs minimum weight, I’d assume they were able to get the S5 in Jonas’s size down to the same weight as the R5. In which case there’s no reason to ride a less aero dynamic bike. I’d assume it’d be easy to get the R5 under the weight limit, but that’s not relevant in the context.
@__uorson
@__uorson День назад
jimmi, you just dress so well
@TheBassallyear100
@TheBassallyear100 2 дня назад
the coming TT i think will be more important than the final TT. Stage 9 should be quite problematic for Vingo, Remco and Roglic. Looking forward to watching MVDP, Wout, Piddy and Pogi go ham in that stage.
@MarvinWestmaas
@MarvinWestmaas 2 дня назад
misread schedule, thought it was the itt sorry I'm a 🤡
@l3monsquare296
@l3monsquare296 2 дня назад
Stage 9 is not the ITT, stage 9 is the gravel stage
@MarvinWestmaas
@MarvinWestmaas 2 дня назад
@@l3monsquare296 oops
@TheBassallyear100
@TheBassallyear100 2 дня назад
@@MarvinWestmaas yeah I probably could have done a better job of making it more clear that i was talking about 2 separate stages. Agreed that the ITT should be epic, 4 of the biggest hitters in ITT plus Wout should make for a heck of a stage. I would be more inclined to measure what Pogacar might do based on his Giro performance than the his performance in the final TT in ‘23 but the margins should be razor thin between those 5. The gravel in stage 9 will be a blast to watch.
@fixedskidz
@fixedskidz 2 дня назад
Hello!!!
@sgroadie6367
@sgroadie6367 2 дня назад
Carapaz’s bike look like heavily patina bronze rather than gold.
@artemduda8359
@artemduda8359 2 дня назад
ah yes after 4 stages the tour is over!!!!
@allenyettel8849
@allenyettel8849 2 дня назад
Don’t be fool, this I only the 4th stage. Realize that today Jonas won big time today.
@darrelltampin3340
@darrelltampin3340 2 дня назад
😂🤦‍♂️
@MarvinWestmaas
@MarvinWestmaas 2 дня назад
@@darrelltampin3340 You can facepalm all you want, but they actually expected Vingegaard to be more behind then he is. As Vingegaard said, compared with the time they thought they would have lost in these first days, they've actually won. Also, you're basing everything on a descent, not a climb. Yes, he made time but it's not the same kind of time one can make going up a mountain. 30 seconds can be corrected in a few km in the right direction.
@dynamo6735
@dynamo6735 2 дня назад
@@MarvinWestmaas He got 10sec on Jonas after ~800m of a climb/attack, if a climb was longer he would have put even more time into Jonas today. Hell even Remco was starting to catch up with Jonas at the top, but then lack of his downhill skills came into play.
@MarvinWestmaas
@MarvinWestmaas 2 дня назад
@@dynamo6735 It was the other way around, Jonas kept a steady 10s gap till the top but lost on second stage of the descent because Pog has the advantage of weight. The climb was much longer, Pog didn't attack sooner because he didn't think he could make more time if he did or he would have. You can try to bend reality into any shape you find more appealing, it doesn't change how it looks to others ;)
@dynamo6735
@dynamo6735 2 дня назад
@@MarvinWestmaas I was reffering to Remcos downhill skills and him losing time against Jonas (he was +4-5sec at the summit to Jonas), not Jonas to Pogi, its clear to everyone that Pogi gained on downhill since he weighs more and has bigger overall power output. Pogi didnt attack earlier because there was headwind, and the early part of the climb wasnt steep enough/person behind him would have lot more benefit because of slipstream. Im not bending reality, you should just work on your reading comperhansion ;)
@ZenEndurance
@ZenEndurance 2 дня назад
Couldn’t disagree more on the single chainring. I have two bikes, one with single, one double, and the double definitely performs way better on hilly terrain. The smaller jumps between gears makes a huge difference in being in the right gear and cadence all the time. In a single, you spend more time in no-man’s land between gears and that’s extremely unwise when every pedal stroke counts.
@out_spocken
@out_spocken 2 дня назад
The inception of the TDF is built on marketing. Doesn't surprise me people continue to market stuff and people keep buying that stuff. For the average person... We now have 1x 13 speed. Surely chains just don't last as long as that thinness and angles than 2x 10? Marginal gains...but pretty irrelevant if you're paying more more often just to ride as an average cyclist?
@Miekzz
@Miekzz День назад
every day is a new day, we've seen time and time again riders who look unbeatable in the beginning of a grandie totally lose it towards the end. pogacar feels different sure, but i can't help but feel he well crack a bit towards the end while jonas will only get stronger
@fixedskidz
@fixedskidz 2 дня назад
The only option for quality is 360p you might need to sort that out
@Nick2bad4u
@Nick2bad4u 2 дня назад
It's fine now. It takes RU-vid a few minutes to process hd versions
@curtisgmchale
@curtisgmchale 2 дня назад
You need to wait for RU-vid to process higher quality versions.
@thelist183
@thelist183 2 дня назад
pogacar can’t even make gap of more than a minute to the lesser prepared jonas and no help and this “guy” with just 4 stage saying it’s pogis crown, such a clown. This gonna be a fun tdf.
@randalh409
@randalh409 2 дня назад
I predict Pogi is going to gain time in the time trials.
@J-cz7yv
@J-cz7yv 2 дня назад
I tend to agree! Maybe Remco can pull back 15-30 seconds but I am skeptical
@markhill9275
@markhill9275 2 дня назад
Everyone is talking about Vinegar and his crash, how he is only going to get better. What all the Vinegar fannyboys forget is that Pog is still recovering from Covid, so he will only get better. I think Vinegar will find his lack of prep telling in the last week and a half.
@J-cz7yv
@J-cz7yv 2 дня назад
Pog is up by 50 seconds now but in reality he is down by 10 minutes in week 3. Jonas has already won! Impressive riding by Jonas to have won the tour with a 50 second deficit. That’s what some people say at least 😂. But I’m with you lol!
@dagatoe
@dagatoe 2 дня назад
Seemed odd to me that Vingegaard started to loose time after the decent straightened out.
@fangru7294
@fangru7294 День назад
Not really. His legs were dead at the finish climb so when they got to 2nd section of descent when you need power to pedal he started to lose seconds because he had no power left...
@dagatoe
@dagatoe День назад
@@fangru7294fair enough.
@andreemurray7039
@andreemurray7039 2 дня назад
Roche won the giro tour world's 1987
@iansingleton
@iansingleton 2 дня назад
The reason teams don't want the Yellow jersey too early isn't because of "Media" & "Press" responsibilities! It's simply because if your team leader is in Yellow your team is expected to protect it and lead the Peloton on the road the next day which obviously means more work on the front! Question! Do you guys actually know anything about pro cycling?
@rafaeldegiacomoaraujo8778
@rafaeldegiacomoaraujo8778 2 дня назад
As well...
@smithbrownjones
@smithbrownjones 2 дня назад
Vinegar didn't have the confidence to hit that downhill, which was all downhill to the finish line, which is why they couldn't catch Podge. Plenty of stages remain for Podge to be attacked by Vinegar... It's all to play )cycle, I guess) for...! 😁
@joelmayores307
@joelmayores307 День назад
Hey it is just the 4th day of 3 weeks...anyrhing could, Go Jonas....
@fiddleronthebike
@fiddleronthebike 2 дня назад
~24‘45“ - sorry, that idea is a bad joke! Pogi less visible? 😆 😅😂 everyone of the other teams is watching him ALL THE TIME - no matter what jersey he is wearing. It’s about recovery time no doubt
@TeoSluga
@TeoSluga 2 дня назад
Pogi's focus after the tour is world championship... That's his main goal. With super strong Slovenian team and on favourable route. Vuelta is not on his mind.
@J-cz7yv
@J-cz7yv 2 дня назад
Not on his mind until he wins the Tour and gets a massive check from the Vuelta organizers. That will for sure play a factor, can you imagine how much the viewership would go up with Pog in the vuelta going for the triple vs without him? Never forget about the economics of sport!
@TeoSluga
@TeoSluga День назад
​​​​​ a) Never forget the importance of the Olympics and Championship. b) Never forget that UAE has multiple riders with GC ambitions (they have that clearly written in the contract). Tadej winning all GC is not in the interest of UAE. That's economic part of the equation.
@michealwalford2905
@michealwalford2905 День назад
Stronger team,jonas recovered from puncherd lung with restricted buildup and got exposed in the thin air..dont think it's all over and the great rivalry isn't done.
@alastairtheduke
@alastairtheduke 2 дня назад
Chris looks like he's a salt of the earth type of guy
@sethera6049
@sethera6049 День назад
20:18 Shame on you Jimmy. Never been happier for someone to be proved wrong!
@hendrixinfinity3992
@hendrixinfinity3992 2 дня назад
Pogi stays upright he wins, no question. Jonas is almost on his level but hasn't had any prep. Rog should be competitive but isn't. For me Remco is the only potential upsetter if he develops into the tour. The fact UAE can do this without super-domestiques like Mcnulty tells all you need to know. They are going to win.
@chris_noswe
@chris_noswe 2 дня назад
The state sponsored Arab team UAE is of course the “strongest team” at the moment - as THEY’RE SPONSORED BY THE UAE ffs. Stop making it sound like they’re doing something incredible when the matter of a fact is that they bought talent and whipped them all to work for 1 guy. It’ll either be Visma or Red Bull in the upcoming years that’ll truly fight them in terms of top tier riders. Visma ain’t got the DS though, so it’ll probably be Red Bull.
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