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WHY PREMIERE RUINS YOUR COLOR GRADE... THERE IS A FIX! 

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@mattih
@mattih 4 года назад
Colors will still change a bit once you upload them to youtube for example and everyones screens look different so youre screwed anyways 😂 BUT oh man im so glad I found this out
@WillColavito
@WillColavito 4 года назад
noti
@SkyviewExperts
@SkyviewExperts 4 года назад
Thank god! This is a huge help! Thanks Matti
@RideWithTechie
@RideWithTechie 4 года назад
I found this fix 5 months ago, and i am so happy after that!
@beezermedia
@beezermedia 4 года назад
What are the color wheels in your premiere window on the left?!
@DanielMarchione
@DanielMarchione 4 года назад
Matti, We gotta link up. Remember me from #hiremematti? Ya, I want in on the shooting/editing situation. Im your guy.
@parsonstj
@parsonstj 2 года назад
5:52, content relevant to title begins.
@KapDx
@KapDx 2 месяца назад
Thanks a lot for saving my precious time.
@fatcat2976
@fatcat2976 4 года назад
Wtf, 5 minutes of unboxing stuff that has nothing to do with the video and then the tip is to download a lut to fix your footage? :/
@mochingrape69
@mochingrape69 4 года назад
lmao what did you expect. From the title we all knew it was an ad for his presets of sorts. Lately this type of video from Matti has increased in number so yea
@trekgod3
@trekgod3 4 года назад
Yup more clickbait spam trying to sell you something
@bennygee6879
@bennygee6879 4 года назад
Yeah I gotta admit I've just unsubbed because of the 90% fluff, 10% content ratio in Matti's channel these days. I don't mean to be rude, but I'm just not interested in his kids, or his exercise routine. Submit personal Vlogs by all means, but title them appropriately and separate that stuff from the reviews, tips etc.
@Loftikaz
@Loftikaz 4 года назад
algorithm requires at least 10min of content
@MrBowmanMakes
@MrBowmanMakes 4 года назад
@@bennygee6879 likewise.
@kaelfernandez
@kaelfernandez Год назад
where's the qt gamma file, mannn
@Ournotsoperfectlife
@Ournotsoperfectlife 6 месяцев назад
3 years running and this video STILL SAVED my color grade.. Thanks Matti!!!
@FrankTaeger2021
@FrankTaeger2021 4 года назад
Meanwhile, Davinci Resolve Users: "Choose your colourspace to Export to..."
@andyphipps01
@andyphipps01 4 года назад
It's on the list when I have time to learn and move properly. Have been doing some basic grading etc to learn, but to move and be up to speed on that system will take time >.
@BigFlavorFilms
@BigFlavorFilms 4 года назад
It doesn't solve the problem entirely, unfortunately. Let's say you have a project that is the default Rec.709 color space and choose to export the video as sRGB thinking that's fix it...then your color profile matrix embedded in the video metadata will be 1-13-1 or something other than 1-1-1. RU-vid will convert the video to 1-1-1 defeating the purpose all together. There is more you have to setup in Resolve to make sure it works right and then choose color space Rec.709 on export if your footage is destined for web. It's a huge pain in the ass. There really needs to be tighter standards around all this.
@FrankTaeger2021
@FrankTaeger2021 4 года назад
@@BigFlavorFilms Of course it doesnt fix ist, i was being sarcastic. But it works much better. First thing starting with the monitor. Mine Supports switching between Colour spaces and i have calibrated every single one of them. That is the start, Not starting by displaying Rec709 in P3 and wondering what happens next :)
@missioncreekstyle3814
@missioncreekstyle3814 4 года назад
Be it Premiere, Resolve, or FCPX, I'm going to use a broadcast monitor to make sure what I see IS what I get. Then, I will post it online.
@BigFlavorFilms
@BigFlavorFilms 4 года назад
@@missioncreekstyle3814 We also use broadcast color calibrated monitors with a clean hardware feed from Resolve to them. Problem still exists. Looks great on the monitor then washed out on RU-vid or Quicktime.
@CapeBiker
@CapeBiker 4 года назад
7 minutes to get to the point..... that Matt Johnson did back in June 10th of 2019.
@3swordszoro252
@3swordszoro252 Год назад
Thankyou
@J0shluna
@J0shluna 2 месяца назад
Could have just fast forward lol ?
@ragnarrothbard3418
@ragnarrothbard3418 3 года назад
At 5:52 he GETS TO THE POINT!!! (MOST of the way through the video.) Put your personality-driven stuff for your fans at the end bro. Also, you could just not.
@CodyPyper
@CodyPyper 4 года назад
I don’t think you saw our comments on the last video - that issue is only present dependent on which viewer you watch on. That LUT is adjusting it for QuickTime specifically
@missioncreekstyle3814
@missioncreekstyle3814 4 года назад
Should look fine on VLC, eh?
@zachall9539
@zachall9539 7 месяцев назад
THIS WAS THE HINT I NEEDED! IT WAS THE SCREEN I WAS USING FOR MY PREVIEW MONITOR. I put the preview monitor on a better screen and now it looks the same as the exports. I cannot believe this took me so long to figure out. Thank you. You have no idea what a pain this has been.
@SignatureEdits
@SignatureEdits 4 года назад
With the color, you might be making a different mistake Matti! The big problem is QUICKTIME - If you preview files in quicktime, the colors are ALL different from how they look naturally in other programs! I was having the same issue and it was driving me nuts. Turned out it was quicktime - Once I opened the export in VLC, colors were back to normal!
@stillsixstudios
@stillsixstudios 3 года назад
Thanks for the tip. How do you share your work with clients? Guess you're not sending them the mpg4 so they can't open in Quicktime? Maybe just the link to the upload on RU-vid or Vimeo?
@krischanrudolph6005
@krischanrudolph6005 2 года назад
The real problem is wrong metadata tags. In resolve you can tag metadata to the colorspace you graded for. Then EVERY player can display it properly. But in Premiere Colormanagament metadata Tags are not there.
@michaeldawson1584
@michaeldawson1584 2 года назад
This is true, but not entirely accurate. Different programmes have different settings when it comes to reading the gamma of your video. VLC and Premiere Pro read gamma similarly to each other and are set to Broadcast-video gamma standards - so, videos look the same colour-wiser between these 2 playforms. Quicktime, Final Cut, and web browsers like Safari and Chrome use another setting (Gamma 1.96). So yes, the colours will look different inside Quicktime, but you'll also find that how they look in Quicktime, is generally how they will look if you open them in Final Cut Pro X, or upload them to the internet. So it's not that one platform is more accurate than the other: it's more about where you plan to watch your final video :)
@AloKadrieri
@AloKadrieri 2 года назад
@@michaeldawson1584 We really need a plan. I don't exactly get now, which plattform needs which settings. Does someone know any list, which platform or player needs which settings? Or could someone just do it? It would be such a help, gosh. 🤯
@zenwithfabian
@zenwithfabian Год назад
@@michaeldawson1584 The best / most useful answer so far I found on this topic! Thanks Michael!
@wilhelm_jonsson
@wilhelm_jonsson 4 года назад
I wouldn't put a LUT on the export, since you're altering the look for all displays when in fact the problem is caused by the display settings on newer mac's (using P3 displays (introduced in 2016?)). I'm on a 2015 MBP and tbh I immediately reacted to the skin tones being oversaturated. To solve it without altering the look for everyone not on a P3 display try changing display profile to Rec.709 which is the same as PrPro. Alternatively, preview videos in VLC which will read PrPro metadata and display correct colors, this might not be as elegant though.
@ctoLarssonTECH
@ctoLarssonTECH 4 года назад
Will's Cutting Room Yes I ended up with this soliton (buying an entirely new Rec.709 display) but of course that wouldn’t work ergonomically with an iMac 🖥 Using VLC definitely works - for the editor but not for the audience since RU-vid on Chrome on Mac looked much like the QuickTime version, not the VLC version in my test.
@wilhelm_jonsson
@wilhelm_jonsson 4 года назад
@@ctoLarssonTECH Well, buying a new monitor is a solution, maybe not as cost-effective though haha... This video offers a great TLDR solution/explanation that will make PrPro/QT/Chrome/VLC all match up without any LUT (i.e. not altering the look for everyone else too) ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-YwjLuUR51gE.html The issue with using a LUT as a solution is that the problem still exists. You're essentially adding a grade with more contrast and saturation, you might as well add the LUT in Lumetri to actually see what it does! Since QT/Chrome will display it with less contrast you end up with an image that looks like what you get in PrPro, but only on your display (and anyone else using a mac with P3 display). Basically anyone else, who isn't using a similar Mac end up getting an oversaturated and too contrasty video... What you see in PrPro is what mostly everyone not using a Mac P3 display will see, but of course you can't control that. I edit videos on a daily basis for clients, and if they have feedback on the colors we ask if they have access to a calibrated monitor (no one does), and then invite them to our office since that is the only way we both can see the exact same colors, not really a feasible solution for YT...
@cinema-q
@cinema-q 4 года назад
@@wilhelm_jonsson can u clarify what u mean by “change display profile,” as in where are these settings?
@wilhelm_jonsson
@wilhelm_jonsson 4 года назад
ShelbyWorks check the youtube link in my previous comment, he shows where to change it in the settings
@missioncreekstyle3814
@missioncreekstyle3814 4 года назад
You don't have the issue on a non-P3 display. I have an old MacBook Pro. No trouble.
@dadverb
@dadverb 4 года назад
Oh man, this has be an issue for so long! Thank you! There were times where I'd intentionally oversaturate or add more contrast to compensate for the look after the final export. Nice tip.
@mattih
@mattih 4 года назад
I use to do that allll the time too
@missioncreekstyle3814
@missioncreekstyle3814 4 года назад
We all did that until the PPro Team fashioned that LUT for us. Sorry it took this long to propagate!
@ivladoss
@ivladoss 4 года назад
QT LUT Doesn’t help. Shadows looks darker and everything is more contrasted
@PhilipRung
@PhilipRung 4 года назад
I researshed a a lot on this matter. I agree that the QT-gamma lut is not good. It doesn't make the correct compensation. I have added 5% color and 3%-5% contrast to compensate for the issue. But that still not 100% correct.
@foundrydogworks5396
@foundrydogworks5396 4 года назад
@@PhilipRung are you doing the grade with the Color Management turned on? If not, make sure that is turned on first. The player, and exports should look identical whether viewed in VLC or Quicktime.
@PhilipRung
@PhilipRung 4 года назад
@@foundrydogworks5396 Thanks, I'm going to try it out!
@PhilipRung
@PhilipRung 4 года назад
@@foundrydogworks5396 For anyone reading this, here is the Link to the Color Management page by Adobe: helpx.adobe.com/premiere-pro/using/color-management.html
@ctoLarssonTECH
@ctoLarssonTECH 4 года назад
Philip Rung I spent a lot of time with this issue a year ago and I never got it to work with a P3 Mac display. The LUT made it look nice for me - but introduced other issues other people watching the RU-vid videos. In the end I bought a Rec.709 monitor. Has anyone actually gotten this to work on a native Mac display with Premiere?
@danielschiffer
@danielschiffer 4 года назад
"IT'S THE BEAGLE DROOOOOOOONE!!!!!!!!"
@mattih
@mattih 4 года назад
Haha 😆 wanna come fly it with me???
@RReMMuSS
@RReMMuSS 4 года назад
:( wish I could come work & hang out with you 2 legends!
@SignatureEdits
@SignatureEdits 4 года назад
@@mattih + @daniel schiffer DRONE FIGHT. It's the next big thing. To the death.
@BradMcCallum
@BradMcCallum 4 года назад
I literally discovered this 4 months ago and its a game changer. It's NOT perfect - but its far better.
@missioncreekstyle3814
@missioncreekstyle3814 4 года назад
If you want perfect, you can do what we old geezers do, purchase a broadcast monitor that is in 709 colorspace. I haven't trusted the NLE UI ever. Going on 30 years now. Sorry the true fix is going to cost you $3Gs. LOL. NLE used to be much more expensive, though. My "Avid Killer" FCP/Targa 2K Pro system cost me at least $15-20K BITD. And some Avids were going for $100K! All that said, you still need a dang broadcast monitor. Check out the Flanders line.
@BigFlavorFilms
@BigFlavorFilms 4 года назад
I've been struggling with this for a while myself. Which is weird because I feel like this is a relatively new issue, past several years. This is actually a color pipeline issue and it's not just in Premiere. Davinci Resolve is the same. Matti, you're right, the default color space is Rec.709 or broadcast standard. This issue is far more prevalent when using Quicktime or when uploading to most web video platforms like RU-vid as they use the HD 1-1-1 color profile, which is Rec.709, and interpret them in their own way. Problem is most screens, besides non HDR TVs are sRGB not Rec.709. Resolve even has a new Rec.709 color settings to help address this called Rec.709-A. Man, it's a whole thing. If Resolve is setup correctly, and I'm sure Premiere too, you can confidently grade footage that will look as intended in RU-vid and other online platforms.
@mpell66
@mpell66 Год назад
In Resolve, I colour grade for an sRGB output colour space and set the 'color space' tag and 'gamma tag' to Rec709. Do that the export looks the same when playing on the local PC as it does when colour grading in Resolve and with the tags set, RU-vid then presents it looking exactly the same also. If the tags were not set, then RU-vid would make it look somewhat darker due to applying some changes to it.
@danfox2575
@danfox2575 4 года назад
For the Windows users in the audience, there's a different fix if you have Nvidia - go into your nvidia control panel and change the legal range to full.
@CardboardExpert
@CardboardExpert 4 года назад
Can't find where it is . Could toy explain with more details? Please
@CardboardExpert
@CardboardExpert 4 года назад
@@King_Krait ))) I don't have "Adjust Video Color Setting " .Very strange .
@danfox2575
@danfox2575 4 года назад
@@CardboardExpert you may need to update your Nvidia drivers then
@CardboardExpert
@CardboardExpert 4 года назад
@@danfox2575 I am trying now )
@CardboardExpert
@CardboardExpert 4 года назад
@@King_Krait I have laptop with Nvidia Ge force 1050ti. So as I figure it out the Intel Graphic card takes over the Nvidia card and disables some futures in Nvidia control panel,so I need disable it in bios I assume ))If it's possible ))))
@lukebohemian
@lukebohemian 3 года назад
Is it me or is there no link for that LUT? 😅
@QuinnErno
@QuinnErno 11 месяцев назад
It’s gone
@KaiCreative
@KaiCreative 4 года назад
7:33 for the magic (:
@Steph_davis
@Steph_davis 4 года назад
Here I am oversaturing in premiere to compensate, I'll have to give this a go!
@mattih
@mattih 4 года назад
Same!!! I’ve been doing that for so long and hated it
@88Doug
@88Doug 4 года назад
I'm learning Premiere, we use it allot! And Photoshop and Illustrator!
@visualventures
@visualventures 4 года назад
Same! Literally every export. "Don't worry it's not actually going to look like this after I export..."
@missioncreekstyle3814
@missioncreekstyle3814 4 года назад
@@mattih It's crazy the hoops you have to jump through, all because of the stupid P3 Monitor in any Mac with a built in screen. Worst. Decision. Ever. Apple.
@missioncreekstyle3814
@missioncreekstyle3814 4 года назад
@@visualventures QuickTime is a horrible preview application these days. Try VLC so you don't have to tap dance in front of your clients.
@worshiptutorials
@worshiptutorials 4 года назад
I used to run into this all the time with Resolve as well (on a Mac), although they fixed it with color space settings in the latest version. Honestly the only thing to me that gives me the exact same look once uploaded to RU-vid as in the editor on a mac is Final Cut. Thanks for the video - always enjoy your uploads!
@mattih
@mattih 4 года назад
Awesome 🙌🏻
@CamTalksTech
@CamTalksTech 4 года назад
Hello Brian or Bradford!
@worshiptutorials
@worshiptutorials 4 года назад
@@CamTalksTech Brian here - hello! 👋🏻
@fnv870
@fnv870 4 года назад
Worship Tutorials here?? Amen!
@joefilter2923
@joefilter2923 4 года назад
This “fix” is useless without the information that explains it - where is the link to the Adobe source? Doesn’t QuickTime player still change the gamma?
@missioncreekstyle3814
@missioncreekstyle3814 4 года назад
The link is in the description, I believe. And yes, the advice from pros is to NOT use QuickTime to QC your video exports any longer for just such an issue. VLC is mentioned most often for both macOS and Windows computers.
@stillsixstudios
@stillsixstudios 3 года назад
@@missioncreekstyle3814 Thanks for the tip. How do you share your work with clients? Guess you're not sending them the mpg4 so they can't open in Quicktime? Maybe just the link to the upload on RU-vid or Vimeo?
@GoExperimental
@GoExperimental 4 года назад
This is amazing timing, I've been having hell with my latest video. Looked so good in premier pro then nothing like it upon export. I was literally just thinking how come Matti or Peter have never covered this. It's such a fundamental thing to get right and I'm so glad there's a solution. THANK YOU!
@JakeMogstad
@JakeMogstad 4 года назад
I just wish when it comes to a final upload, it wouldn’t change the quality. I work hard for that HD 😂
@mattih
@mattih 4 года назад
Export in 4k ;) it’s the biggest secret to making your HD look better online
@saftharpkd
@saftharpkd 4 года назад
😀😀😀😀😀😀
@JRidgely
@JRidgely 4 года назад
Matti Haapoja Lossless upscale right? I wish Davinci could do that.
@JakeMogstad
@JakeMogstad 4 года назад
Matti Haapoja Thanks man, gonna keep that in mind for next time. 🙏
@lisamaefilms2774
@lisamaefilms2774 4 года назад
@@mattih how?? Please make a video :)
@TristanErvin
@TristanErvin 4 года назад
THANK YOU! I've struggled with this forever, and would always export to see what colors I needed to to adjust for what I ACTUALLY wanted, then export again after making those adjustments. So annoying
@mattih
@mattih 4 года назад
Soooo annoying! I’ve always hated that part
@NathanVMountain
@NathanVMountain 4 года назад
I have to ask Matti, did you try viewing it on different media players on your computer? Because I had this where I colour graded my videos, then tried to view them in VLC, but they just looked so different and I didn't understand why, but when I viewed them on any other player, or on a different device, it turned out the colour grade worked fine, it was just VLC for some reason.
@adriansphoto
@adriansphoto 4 года назад
VLC has the same color profile as Premiere, Quicktime has a more equal color profile to for example RU-vid. VLC is "correct" by that means, if you're comparing it to your Premiere footage. But it will be "wrong" for web etc.... It's a tricky one.
@NathanVMountain
@NathanVMountain 4 года назад
@@adriansphoto but that's the weird thing, VLC is the only one that looks different to me? The same files look how I intended them too after uploading them online
@greciarodriguez2185
@greciarodriguez2185 4 года назад
I’ve been struggling for YEARS with this issue. I switched to FCPX a few months ago because of this, but I miss been able to use/connect all the other Adobe softwares in the same project. YOU’RE A LIFESAVER!
@JustinVandergaast
@JustinVandergaast 4 года назад
I had this issue but then selected 'Render at Maximum Depth" and 'Use Maximum Render Quality' and I've never had it again.
@cloudiow
@cloudiow 4 года назад
Yup always export with maximum render quality !
@zachsteinbach
@zachsteinbach 4 года назад
How new is your Mac, Justin? My 2011 never had this issue either. My 2019 5K 27" does, and it's infuriating. It is an issue found only on the newer (~2016-current) Apple wide color gamut displays.
@JustinVandergaast
@JustinVandergaast 4 года назад
@@zachsteinbach My personal 2010 Mac Pro (with many internal upgrades) and even my iMac Pro at work. I haven't had the issue on either permitting I hit those two check boxes when exporting.
@jessecohen1
@jessecohen1 4 года назад
This never worked for me, I have to use the lut like matti
@zachsteinbach
@zachsteinbach 4 года назад
Justin Vandergaast Got it. I’ve always checked those boxes too and, again, didn’t have the problem on the older Mac either. Definitely have it now and I’ve tried everything imaginable.
@223Services
@223Services 4 года назад
Resolve does the same thing. You have to twirl down the advanced tab on the export codec and switch to full from auto. This allows levels that are out of gamut to flow through on export vs being forced into broadcast safe. As a test maybe export something that is graded in spec on the waveform and vector scope and see if it alters it. If it looks ok you could probably just drop a broadcast safe effect on before export. Just a hunch.
@slambk
@slambk 2 года назад
How do I get to this...Thnx
@KarlRock
@KarlRock 4 года назад
I have the same issue. What I did was was used software encoding at export, colours then came out like in Premiere. Weird
@HyperNawab
@HyperNawab 4 года назад
Wassup my boi 😍😘
@alexcarrera102
@alexcarrera102 4 года назад
:)
@MaxPowers1245
@MaxPowers1245 Год назад
nice
@pwl4576
@pwl4576 Год назад
Thanks for saving my life, Matti. The whole rest of the internet has me messing around, getting nowhere, and then you pop up with this video from 2 years ago and fix it immediately.
@theplayedpixel8752
@theplayedpixel8752 Год назад
this guy talking like 5 minutes for nothing
@Thehackerguy2000
@Thehackerguy2000 6 месяцев назад
Fr it’s annoying as hell
@jhonastete
@jhonastete 4 месяца назад
You made it, he quit, you made him quit congrats
@troyspoelma
@troyspoelma 4 года назад
A typical Matti video: Teases you with what the video is actually about, then doesn't actually get to it until halfway through the video.
@csc-photo
@csc-photo 4 года назад
"You can actually fix it." Cool. But ADOBE should fix it, especially if people (even experts like yourself) have been dealing with this for years. For what Adobe charges, it's not a lot to ask IMO.
@missioncreekstyle3814
@missioncreekstyle3814 4 года назад
If General Preferences > Display Color Management won't fix it, and the LUT isn't the fix you're looking for, then let the Product Manager know here: adobe-video.uservoice.com/forums/911233-premiere-pro/suggestions/33841903-proper-color-management-for-p3-displays He'll be notified and will read your message. Hope that helps.
@get_spanked240
@get_spanked240 4 года назад
The problem is full vs video levels/range. Different softwares and hosts use different levels. For instance quick time uses full, while vlc uses video/partial. You can't fix this as far as I'm aware. I'm not even sure if youtube even has a standard setting as I think different internet browsers have this problem. Davinci resolve though has much better settings for setting up how you see colors....though on mac, there are still problems....apple in general is not great for color grading without having to deal with frustrations as you have to bypass the computer's color profile.
@producedbyed
@producedbyed 4 года назад
Jokes on you!! My premiere crashed before I could export the vid 😂
@missioncreekstyle3814
@missioncreekstyle3814 4 года назад
Give your system and media details. Maybe the community can assist? Unless you're just joking.
@gammapost
@gammapost 4 года назад
It’s more a QuickTime thing. I used to get the same when exporting from resolve. Now they fixed too with a QuickTime Gamma fix just like premiere has done with that fix there. If you open it in VLC you will see it ok without the fix
@ctoLarssonTECH
@ctoLarssonTECH 4 года назад
I actually ran into other problems with that LUT when I tried it a year ago. Then it looked weird on other displays instead, like PC and the TV. I also got clipping. I had a chat with an Adobe guy in some forum about it, which ended with him shouting in all caps IT’S APPLE’S FAULT 😂😂😂 Then I gave up. Will have to try again.
@wilhelm_jonsson
@wilhelm_jonsson 4 года назад
Exactly, using a LUT only solves it for newer mac's and creates new issues for everyone else. Changing the display profile on mac's with P3 displays will solve it
@mattih
@mattih 4 года назад
Haha yep it’s always gonna be a battle. But I would rather the colours come out closer to how i intended in the first place.
@ctoLarssonTECH
@ctoLarssonTECH 4 года назад
Matti Haapoja yes looks like a huge improvement on your screen. Will definitely try it out again! Thanks! This issue drove me nuts too and made me get another physical screen 📺 😅
@FrankTaeger2021
@FrankTaeger2021 4 года назад
@@mattih Davinci Resolve allows you to do that ;)
@ctoLarssonTECH
@ctoLarssonTECH 4 года назад
Will's Cutting Room Will, what do you change it to? Do you do any additional modifications?
@dominey
@dominey 4 года назад
This LUT isn’t a complete solution. It works okay when editing footage you’re grading yourself, but if you include photos, videos from other people, screencast recordings, etc, the LUT will darken that content as well. Additionally, everything is inconsistent outside of Premiere. Look at your RU-vid video in Chrome and Firefox, and you’ll see a big difference. Wish there was a magic bullet, but this stuff has been going on for years.
@davidshuttmedia373
@davidshuttmedia373 4 года назад
This problem is pretty much a Mac issue, move over to PC guys ;) Used to happen all the time thanks to that stupid P3 display that Apple decided to use, Premiere just doesn't play well with it so exports look completely different to what you see in Premiere, even with the LUT it's not exact and still has some colour shifts TLDR; Apple Macs suck for colour shifts.
@ctoLarssonTECH
@ctoLarssonTECH 4 года назад
David Shutt Media Yep, I had a funny interaction with an Adobe guy in a forum a year or so ago about this issue, this LUT etc. It ended with him shouting “IT’S APPLE’S FAULT!” in caps lock 😆😆😆😆😆 then I gave up and went out and bought a rec.709 display. Did you ever solve it on a native Mac 🖥 💻 display?
@davidshuttmedia373
@davidshuttmedia373 4 года назад
@@ctoLarssonTECH I didnt no, I had no ends of problem with Macs and Premiere pro, took me 2 months to realise all my customers were getting crap washed out videos, luckily my new company uses PC much better! And I've swapped to resolve for the main bulk of editing which has been a dream in comparison
@andyphipps01
@andyphipps01 4 года назад
This has been an issue on OSX since they moved to DCI-P3 displays. It's been the bane of my existence since the iMac pro 17 came out. Rec709 colour space for PP, but Apple has different Gamma settings for P3. This fix doesn't work if you have multiple screens unfortunately, or externally calibrated screens too (EIZO etc). The best fix is a hardware video output - like blackmagic ultrastudio etc into a hardware calibrated monitor.
@MohammedAgbadi
@MohammedAgbadi 4 года назад
LMAOOO THAT CROCODILE DUNDEE MEME !
@Ride_XP
@Ride_XP 4 года назад
This has been a problem for SO LONG on Premiere with wide color gamut P3 Apple displays that it drives me NUTS that they haven't figured it out! Yes it's a Quicktime issue. Only real fix for us Mac users seems to be using an external monitor that's not P3 as even changing the display profile to HD-709 no longer works for me. I haven't tried this, although I had to resort to using my iPad as a grading display as it's closer (but not quite there) what gets exported. All in all, Premiere on Mac just suffers from so many problems I find it unusable despite all the bells and whistles, especially with FCP X and Resolve as non-subscription/free options.
@visualventures
@visualventures 4 года назад
Matti - I'm LITERALLY freaking out - THANK YOU!!! I thought I was crazy and have been struggling with this for so long, always pumping the contrast or saturation and just crossing my fingers on the export. So helpful. Thank you so much dude, this is invaluable.
@EvokeTennis
@EvokeTennis 4 года назад
I was able to get this problem under control recently by downloading the hd709 profile and setting my Mac screen to that. Before that my colors were washed out on export.
@lukesteichen6794
@lukesteichen6794 4 года назад
Did you few your exports on different browsers after changing your screen? Did they look the same/different?
@EvokeTennis
@EvokeTennis 4 года назад
@@lukesteichen6794 before the biggest issue was quicktime and browsers were washed out but VLC looked fine. Now after the change QT and VLC look very very close. Didn't check browser comparison
@BenCollinsVideos
@BenCollinsVideos 4 года назад
I’ve been doing this fix for years. It’s sooooo annoying
@benjimenlockwood
@benjimenlockwood 4 года назад
Wow, I actually know something the Matti didn't lol! I have also been using this for ages as I could not stand the gamma shift. It also does this in Resolve too.
@BenCollinsVideos
@BenCollinsVideos 4 года назад
Another option is to export in ProRes, as it doesn’t seem to have the same issue. The file size is much larger however
@NickFaulkner
@NickFaulkner 4 года назад
sounds like it.
@HugoWill
@HugoWill 4 года назад
The problem isn’t in premiere. It’s just QuickTime player applies its color adjustments.. which is strange, but if you playback in any other player, you won’t have the color issues
@ColtonWorld
@ColtonWorld 4 года назад
It’s a QT issue. Open the vid in VLC and I’ll look the same as in Pr.
@mattih
@mattih 4 года назад
But that doesn’t solve the issue of when you upload it to RU-vid or somewhere else it doesn’t get interpreted like in VLC
@NigelDanson
@NigelDanson 4 года назад
@@mattih It does - If I output and look at the grade in QT it is flat / VLC is perfect. RU-vid is always like VLC. I am sure it is a QT viewing issue.
@peterujfalusi2764
@peterujfalusi2764 4 года назад
Nigel Danson true man!
@peterujfalusi2764
@peterujfalusi2764 4 года назад
Matti Haapoja i also worked with this QT lut. It helps you out with QT. Only.
@jamskof
@jamskof 4 года назад
@@mattih erm. yes it does, its been a thing like forever that qt messes with gamma,
@SincerelyLR
@SincerelyLR 2 года назад
FINALLY THANK YOU! This has been driving me crazy!
@CaptainSinbad
@CaptainSinbad 4 года назад
Thanks for restoring our friendship man -- damn cameras always getting in the way
@henriquenakandakare
@henriquenakandakare 4 года назад
Finally a good solution. Have some little difference yet, but is much better than before. When I started to understand, has a problem with compatibility with the type of screen mac uses. When going out of premiere, or other software they use rec.709, is completely different and I can't resolve with the calibrate of perfil monitor, because changes for all. Finally, a LUT to resolve, thanks very much Matti.
@RoadtoFinnish
@RoadtoFinnish 4 года назад
Matti, thank you so much for this! This has been such an infuriating thing about premiere and i simply gave up trying to fix it on my own... Also, this came at a great time because i just got my color correction right using your old color correction videos 👍. First time i filmed in clog and darn - things look so nice! Cheers ja iso kiitos 👊
@mattih
@mattih 4 года назад
So good 🙌🏻
@RyanLatham
@RyanLatham 4 года назад
I think a big part of the confusion is for people using Macs.... I believe Apple has their own color management for their P3 displays and applications to where Final Cut, Quicktime/Preview, and Safari will all look the same when viewing on a Mac. I've always noticed that my exports from FCP look perfect on Safari, but it looks like it's in a different gamma and more saturated when viewed in Chrome or on a Windows PC. Not sure what the best solution is or if there even is one, but that's what I've noticed!
@TAPPChannel
@TAPPChannel 4 года назад
So you're not moving FCPX?? I guess FCPX works much faster than Premiere right??
@mskalo-1848
@mskalo-1848 4 года назад
Have you seen the video that was edited in fcpx lol eos r5 review i think Everything was orange
@JF..
@JF.. 4 года назад
Finally a non comparison video between the R5 & the Sony A7SIII. That thing is everywhere lol. Thanks for the upload Matti 👍
@mattih
@mattih 4 года назад
😂 camera burn out
@JF..
@JF.. 4 года назад
Matti Haapoja 🤣😅 Good to see Kai back❤️
@hufman9807
@hufman9807 4 года назад
This is just embarrassing. Not a solution. Glad I switched to resolve a while ago
@JohnAmaro_Official
@JohnAmaro_Official 4 года назад
@Jack Ieronimo yes i am getting this problem with resolve..did u find any solution?
@JohnAmaro_Official
@JohnAmaro_Official 4 года назад
@Jack Ieronimo yeah i know haha. I just messed up with a project actually. Tried everything to keep colorgrading the same but like you said i have to colorgrade everything again because ive used wrong settings to export.. One small tip..you can use adjustment layer on top and re-adjust the colorgrading. It worked on my last project but i quess will not work in all clips when you change colorspace,you will still have to go in and re-adjust some clips individually
@missioncreekstyle3814
@missioncreekstyle3814 4 года назад
@@JohnAmaro_Official I would recommend a broadcast monitor for an easy solution. For years, you could get away with not having one. If you have a Mac, it's become necessary again.
@JohnAmaro_Official
@JohnAmaro_Official 4 года назад
@@missioncreekstyle3814 i am working on eizo cg279x actually and i am working on a pc:) but i also own a macbook pro sometimes to double check everything.. but on resolve unfortunately colors never match 100%
@MrAlifarrukh
@MrAlifarrukh 4 года назад
Hey why did you use that lut to export ? What does that do to the footage if u don’t add? Didn’t give that information
@travelbirds9163
@travelbirds9163 4 года назад
"Cheapest version of a screencap". Probably filming on a 3k+ setup 🤣
@aphr0d
@aphr0d 3 года назад
A 3k set up can built over time tho! :)
@GorilieVR
@GorilieVR 4 года назад
THANK YOU!!! Full time pro here and noticed exports on my new workstation looked washed out. I'll fix this when i get to work in a couple hours 😊🎬
@charlemagnekaleidoscope6165
@charlemagnekaleidoscope6165 10 месяцев назад
Thumbs down for taking 8 minutes to get to subject of the video in the title.
@BradMansfield
@BradMansfield 4 года назад
I understand how you feel with the R5. My heart sank today when I watched a video that explained how h.265 4-2-2 can’t be decoded by most graphics cards out there. Which is why all the other companies use 4-2-0. That being said, I love the camera, just awaiting a few firmware updates to make the video side (more convenient/practical) but over all I think it’s a solid device.
@angelicaamora11
@angelicaamora11 2 года назад
This is very helpful, thanks! I'm receiving an R5. I wonder what computer is out there that made them think 4:2:2 can be edited.
@BradMansfield
@BradMansfield 2 года назад
@@angelicaamora11 the M1 Mac line or iPads using LumaFusion handle it better than my nvidia 2070
@mycomfortmask7937
@mycomfortmask7937 4 года назад
Thanks a lot for unboxing the mask. It turned out even better than we expected. Hope you like it and for all the commenters that code is working for everybody and will work for ever. #beyourself #wearamask
@thebeardbe
@thebeardbe 4 года назад
For those interested the code is matti2020 and the company is called mycomfortmask you can have your own face customized on a mask. I'm one of the founders btw. Greetz and thx Filip
@miguelcravo8405
@miguelcravo8405 4 года назад
dude, I work with premiere for years and years. I actually thought this was a problem with codecs or something so I color corrected my videos by compensating by eye what I know to expect when rendering. I had no idea it was actually a software default. Thank you so much... omg
@MakingithappenVlog
@MakingithappenVlog 4 года назад
hahaha this is so relateable! I have asked the "WHY" several times to myself! Thank you for fixing the problem for all of us 😂
@Clintamis
@Clintamis 4 года назад
Major oof. Quicktime does more things to your colors than anything else. If you were open your video with VCL player or something like that, You would see your color grade match. Quicktime absolutely sucks.
@anony_meows
@anony_meows 4 года назад
quicktime and also lav decoder in mpc-hc changes things. vlc is fine. and on youtube looks the same as vlc (at least on chrome), so i guess it doesn't really matter if you deliver to youtube
@cederic7920
@cederic7920 4 года назад
I think the title you were looking for was “Why FCPX is better” 😉
@josephtaylor4977
@josephtaylor4977 Год назад
Where can I find the QT Gamma Compensation LUT? I must be overlooking it if no one else is having trouble finding it..
@nolansilvius9636
@nolansilvius9636 4 года назад
Thank you, this happens to me with all my exports!
@SamHolland
@SamHolland 4 года назад
WOOHHOO FINALLY!! Thanks Matti :D
@lukewilliamhayes
@lukewilliamhayes 4 года назад
5:52 - You're welcome
@gregtay67
@gregtay67 4 года назад
Premiere timeline/display only works in rec709 space. For years already I have used a DCI P3 to Rec709 lut in an adjustment layer during export and it's fixed. This lut in the export does a similar thing.
@EricksonMatree
@EricksonMatree 4 года назад
I haven't been this early for a video since the dinosaurs went extinct
@WillieFungo
@WillieFungo Год назад
Premiere seems to lack so much basic functionality. Such a vital lut should be included in the program. Unreal
@decameraman
@decameraman 4 года назад
I heard you mentioned you want to visit the Faroe Islands?! I've been there and want to go back soooooo bad! Wanna join up together and create some awesome content? :D I can guide you around :p
@bjchealthAU
@bjchealthAU 2 года назад
Hi, I need your help. It work in my end. I don't have that Gamma LUT. Where can I find that? THank you
@twinscreative528
@twinscreative528 Год назад
Can't tell you how much I love you for this short video I've felt so dump checking all my Export settings for any possibility of color change 😂❤
@HuFilms
@HuFilms 4 года назад
Same with Davinci Resolve. Color is faded after export. There's a workaround to that too! BTW, the saturation in this vid seems way higher than most Matti vids, a bit too much IMO.
@NolanKoop
@NolanKoop 2 года назад
what about when you export a video then bring the exported version back into premeire to turn into a trailer or something. would you need to do this again or is it going to look the same because it was already done once
@JoseARubio
@JoseARubio 4 года назад
Thank you, thank you, thank you, I've been struggle as well with same issue in Premiere. All the best!
@eliteviewstudios5135
@eliteviewstudios5135 Год назад
Cant believe this is the whole reason why my grades from Davinci have been less contrasted! You saved me man!
@mydjiworld8376
@mydjiworld8376 Год назад
I have to tell you, you are only one person on youtube, who shows how to fix this issue. Thank you man, I have this issue first time and I spend 2 days to find way to fix it, you can't even imagine how many things I have done, but nothing chaingd, befor I saw your video. ThankYou
@jashrajgor
@jashrajgor 4 месяца назад
I was facing the same issue, I was working with the footage shot in .Braw however this video is very helpful, it worked for me! thanks Matti 🙌🏽
@jonathangalletti
@jonathangalletti 4 года назад
Went down a rabbit hole figuring this out a while back. Now the problem is figuring out how to get it to transfer over to Media Encoder when hitting queue instead of exporting in Premiere!
@Ournotsoperfectlife
@Ournotsoperfectlife 4 года назад
Thanks for this tip Matti. Color grading is such a craft and true science and I have come to really appreciate your approach to this COMPLEX subject when you address it from time to time. And that knife bro - yussssss
@GarrettLucasWV
@GarrettLucasWV 4 года назад
Dude, you need to review some of that stuff those folks sent you. I know that Brous Blades knife is a high-dollar piece compared to most you see for sale. Looks pretty sick.
@tanishqkhare9182
@tanishqkhare9182 4 года назад
Hey Matti! Your videos are just amazing. I wanted to ask, I'm currently having Canon EOS 4000D and I'm thinking of switching to Canon EOS R6. I mostly do photos( travel , events etc) and basic video stuff. Should I go for it? And what lenses should I go for?
@DanielTuriman
@DanielTuriman 4 года назад
Thank you mat for the explanation, i have a some issue, but when i watch your video, Everthing is fix.
@JayJanePhotography
@JayJanePhotography 4 года назад
This is the exact problem I had. Did the step in preferences and it seemed to have fixed the prob. I didn't know about the lut. I'll definitely try and see. Thanks Matti!
@DruuzilTechGames
@DruuzilTechGames 10 месяцев назад
Lumetri doesn't work at all. The timeline version looks NOTHING like the exported version, which comes out with massive color splotches etc. The settings you mentioned in this video do not exist in Premiere Pro in 2023 on the PC version (idk if there's a difference between PC and MAC versions).
@greggrex
@greggrex 4 года назад
Would this problem still occur if you color grade your footage via adjustment layers, rather than applying the grade to the clip itself?
@RipRecords
@RipRecords 2 года назад
6:36 to jump to fix and skip fluff
@sondp
@sondp 4 года назад
All this years i thought this was a color calibration issue, I just removed the color calibrator tool from my cart saved me money. Thank you 😊
@enrigrande
@enrigrande 4 года назад
I noticed that: Clip graded in davinci and exported from PR With Color Management OFF and NO LUTS and Pr Timeline and final Export match (but Color totally different from Davinci grade) Color Management ON + LUTS ON timeline and Fianl export from Pr match with Davinci (Test made on PC with sRGB monitor) So in teory if you grade in Pr you should not have problem (at least on a PC).
@Lyndonmancio
@Lyndonmancio 4 года назад
I just unchecked "render at maximum depth" under the video tab and checked the "use maximum render quality" works for me 👍🏻
@mikeodendahl
@mikeodendahl 4 года назад
Hey Matti, nice explanation. Thank you. Did you add a link for the QT Gamma Cube LUT?
@KaleelZibeWildLeopardFilms
@KaleelZibeWildLeopardFilms 4 года назад
Hi Matti, I emailled you about this exact fix a couple of months ago :) The reason Adobe does this is so the output gamma matches broadcast TV, as you've found out. It's annoying that once you've applied it, it doesn't show that you've applied it, but at least it works.
@MyekalBenham
@MyekalBenham 4 года назад
Thanks for the update Matti. Was this vid shot on the R OG? I'm looking for a FCPX online course. Anyone here have any suggestions?
@MarcTaraz
@MarcTaraz 4 года назад
I knew about the QT gamma but did not know about the setting I had to change, so when I used the LUT it just looked TRASH so I gave up and always just boosted the contrast to compensate
@TheCheeriosMan
@TheCheeriosMan 2 года назад
OOOOOOOHHHHHHH! Is this the same inside After Effects? I had such a time adjusting colours from flat graphics with multiply using lumetri to compensate for it. Gonna look into this now.
@perkristiansson9794
@perkristiansson9794 2 года назад
Thanks. As a new user to Premiere on Mac I almost switched to Final Cut. I think they should make it easier to find this setting. Pro's can turn things off.
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