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Why Religion Must Be Kept Out of Government | Sociologist Phil Zuckerman 

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@patobrien235
@patobrien235 2 месяца назад
Religion is so divisive
@rjung_ch
@rjung_ch 2 месяца назад
religion = superstition! 1:17
@thegametroll6264
@thegametroll6264 2 месяца назад
Especially these so called "chosen people" religions. If you aren't a chosen people type you don't get to enjoy your life like you should although even when I was Christian I never saw the appeal of giving myself to something that I suspected was never true to begin with.
@irenehartlmayr8369
@irenehartlmayr8369 2 месяца назад
So is politics,and lots of other things as well.
@user-nz8uy1zm3z
@user-nz8uy1zm3z 2 месяца назад
all ideologies are divisive, if you make a claim to truth (which every worldview does) then you are inevitably intolerant of other worldviews
@irenehartlmayr8369
@irenehartlmayr8369 2 месяца назад
@@user-nz8uy1zm3z Well,I don't make any such claims about any world view.And I wish others wouldn't either.... one should NEVER surrender to any such thing,regardless of the ideology. And stay independent instead. Mental and emotional freedom is better than anything else.
@einienj3281
@einienj3281 2 месяца назад
It has to be kept out of the government.
@kenhickford6581
@kenhickford6581 2 месяца назад
On June 14, 1954, President Dwight Eisenhower signed a bill to insert the phrase “under God” into the U.S. Pledge of Allegiance that children recited every morning in school.
@thegametroll6264
@thegametroll6264 2 месяца назад
While we're at it. Keep it out of the schools. It's hard enough to learn as it is without the myth of creation being taught as something as valid as the theory of evolution. Key word " theory". So.ething that can be tested over and over again and see the same results. The myth of creation? Not so much.
@ga6589
@ga6589 2 месяца назад
@@kenhickford6581 So what?
@kenhickford6581
@kenhickford6581 2 месяца назад
@@ga6589 so what what? Lol!
@ga6589
@ga6589 2 месяца назад
@@kenhickford6581 I'll help you out. There's no religion attached to those words. "Under god" could mean ANY god, so adding it to the pledge was a meaningless gesture meant to appeal to religious fanatics.
@ikenosis8160
@ikenosis8160 2 месяца назад
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion" When I remind people of this they are usually shocked since it's common for people to not even know anything about the Bill of Rights or the Constitution these days. I remind them that this statement is the first point of the first amendment. Read Thomas Paine's Common Sense. It's a brutal diatribe against the absurdity of special revelation. Excellent episode. Liked and shared.
@kenhickford6581
@kenhickford6581 2 месяца назад
On June 14, 1954, President Dwight Eisenhower signed a bill to insert the phrase “under God” into the U.S. Pledge of Allegiance that children recited every morning in school.
@ga6589
@ga6589 2 месяца назад
@@kenhickford6581 Which god would that be? It doesn't specify.
@okiepita50t-town28
@okiepita50t-town28 2 месяца назад
Man he said a lot and every bit of it was true. Keep religion and government separate. And please keep your religious beliefs to yourself unless solicited.
@__-tz6xx
@__-tz6xx 2 месяца назад
3:39 In High School, I remember a Christian call me (I was Mormon) not a Christian and I told him "Whatever man"
@oldretireddude
@oldretireddude 2 месяца назад
The laws of this country should have no place for superstition/religion. The problem is not the superstition itself, the problem is that superstitious/religious people try to push it onto others.
@thegametroll6264
@thegametroll6264 2 месяца назад
The same could be said about a lot of organized groups but I couldn't agree more. I hated being told I was worthless and that I'd never amount to anything being shoved down my throat all the time. That's why I left religion.
@oldretireddude
@oldretireddude 2 месяца назад
@@thegametroll6264 I think we will always have the influence of these these organizations in our elected officials, there's just now way around that. But they need to, by law, understand that their fringe beliefs that are unique to their superstition may not be put into the laws that guide everyone.
@user-nz8uy1zm3z
@user-nz8uy1zm3z 2 месяца назад
you realize that by excluding religious ideas from laws you're pushing your atheism onto religious people? you can't be that stupid so I just have to assume you're malicious
@Seticzech
@Seticzech 2 месяца назад
@@user-nz8uy1zm3z "your atheism onto religious people" It's total BS. Nobody is forcing you to stop believe in any fictional whatever. "you can't be that stupid" But you are.
@user-nz8uy1zm3z
@user-nz8uy1zm3z 2 месяца назад
@@Seticzech No one is directly threatening me to stop believing, but my school wasn't allowed to teach to me any religion, my college isn't allowed to teach Christianity, and while all of this is going on, the current regime supports other religions and ideologies. Its obvious to anyone who cares that Christianity is supressed in north america
@richardharris8538
@richardharris8538 2 месяца назад
I think religion should be kept out of everything. According to my values, on balance and in our modern world, religion’s harm far outweighs its good. Faith enables manipulation by demagogues for their nefarious purposes: Religion requires faith, that is, belief without evidence. Such faith becomes available for co-option in different situations. It is epistemically indefensible, and a lazy way of thinking that lends itself to manipulation by demagogues pushing agendas that on greater reflection could be seen for what they are; perversions of justice, compassion, and human decency. Faith replaces the role of chance with imaginary supernatural agency: Faith allows religious people to disregard the misfortunes of others, because they believe them to be undeserving, their gods or spirits having willed it so. It allows them to disregard the role of chance in life, and so believe the wealthy to be deserving. Such false beliefs lead to bad decisions, such as when theists vote against progressive social policies because they believe their good fortune is due to their god's blessing, and the less fortunate are undeserving, so they can’t be good people. Religions discriminate against and oppress non-members: Various religions or sects validate discrimination or oppression against people who don’t share their beliefs, resulting in sectarian violence, even warfare. History shows that religious wars tend to be the deadliest. Objective morality sourced from ancient texts is primitive and sometimes unethical: Religious people believe in objective morality, the source of which is to be found in the ancient text of their choice. However, the morality on display, at least in part, is necessarily primitive and rebarbative. Moral philosophy has moved on since then, making our world a better place, despite the efforts of religious adherents. Compare the UN Universal Declaration of Human Rights with the Ten Commandments. The Bible condones slavery, so long as the master doesn’t beat his slave to death. Supernatural beliefs, conflicting with reality, cause faulty decision making: Holding false beliefs that conflict with reality, relating to one or another of mankind’s many gods, is akin to being misinformed. This makes it more likely that decisions influenced by such beliefs will be erroneous. This is particularly true when religious dogma conflicts with scientific data and theories, such as creationism versus evolution by natural selection.
@coldyummysugarfoods
@coldyummysugarfoods 2 месяца назад
Seperation of church and state exists for a reason. Religion controlling government causes too many problems
@JustReed
@JustReed 2 месяца назад
Not only government, but in the public eyes and ears. Keep all religion in the home and church, where it was meant to be, only. No TV, radio, social media, advertisements, publications... The secular world is just that for a reason. We are individuals with free will to choose what we think, live, breath... and believe. Unless humanity we're all automatons, thinking and being commanded by the same source. Our humanity must keep our personal beliefs and matters in the home, without scrutiny and investigation. Otherwise, we will at some point, force and demand our beliefs on others, and wars, hate, prejudice, indifference... will be created and, take a good look around the world and see what Religion has created. What if religion was only allowed to be shared in the home and church. What kind of world would it be? What if?
@rarsebumbaclaat2659
@rarsebumbaclaat2659 2 месяца назад
Can I get an ironic 'Amen' for this video. Preach prof Phil.
@iitywybmad29
@iitywybmad29 2 месяца назад
superstition - noun 1a: a belief or practice resulting from ignorance, fear of the unknown, trust in magic or chance, or a false conception of causation b: an irrational abject attitude of mind toward the supernatural, nature, or God resulting from superstition 2: a notion maintained despite evidence to the contrary Merriam-Webster
@Istandby666
@Istandby666 2 месяца назад
Faith - without evidence
@irenehartlmayr8369
@irenehartlmayr8369 2 месяца назад
Its not only in democracy,the Enlightenment period of history already did that !! So its nothing new.
@konsul2006
@konsul2006 Месяц назад
I really enjoy this guy. This isn't much of a debate though...
@karenmiller6088
@karenmiller6088 2 месяца назад
I watched the entire debate yesterday and it was hard to listen to the hippy guy's hype and name dropping. The guy tried really hard to make Phil out to be an uneducated idiot but, in the end, he was wearing the dunce cap. Phil was so entertaining and if not for his quick wit and humor, I would have fallen asleep having to listen to the Jordan Peterson wannabe hippy. I wonder how many people actually get impressed by that kind of word salad talk. 🤔
@Rod-cb3vd
@Rod-cb3vd 2 месяца назад
Far better to accept the universe as it really is than to embrace a delusion no matter how reassuring or comfortable.
@Bolocomcafe
@Bolocomcafe 2 месяца назад
☕🍰 Without education we are prisoners of alienations; philosophy help a lot.
@kelly648
@kelly648 2 месяца назад
The belief in authority (statism) is also a religion
@natanielbumppo6961
@natanielbumppo6961 2 месяца назад
You deny one delusion. Religion. At the same time you establish another. Bourgeois democracy. Like: don't believe in false god. Believe in mine
@carefree4271
@carefree4271 2 месяца назад
W
@kenhickford6581
@kenhickford6581 2 месяца назад
Re: "Religion Must Be Kept Out of Government"!....Really?....And how do you do that FFS? ...........Not that I do not agree with you!...You rattle on about it, but NO SOLUTIONS'!...As usual!
@einienj3281
@einienj3281 2 месяца назад
How? Not making decisions or laws based on religious beliefs 🤷🏻‍♀️
@kenhickford6581
@kenhickford6581 2 месяца назад
@@einienj3281 And how do you propose to bring that about?..Considering Human beings are involved??????
@chocopuddingcup83
@chocopuddingcup83 2 месяца назад
@@kenhickford6581 Enact laws based on evidence and science, not emotion, belief, or faith. If somebody has an argument for or against a law, it needs to be reasoned and backed up with factual evidence for their case.
@iitywybmad29
@iitywybmad29 2 месяца назад
You want solutions? Here are a few of mine: Become a member of the Freedom From Religion Foundation and American Atheists. These associations take cases to court to fight to keep us free. Vote against the religious right, especially on local school boards, because these are the GROOMERS who want to brainwash our youth. I do not give quarter to anyone. I do not refer to them as religious. I call them the SUPERSTITIOUS. And I will quickly inform them that I have NO FEAR of THEIR SUPERSTITION. I am impervious to their "argument from authority". The solution starts with you and I.
@fionagregory9147
@fionagregory9147 2 месяца назад
Everyone should be atheist like me and Richard Dawkins amongst others.
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