WHY ROBOUTE GUILLIMAN IS THE GREATEST PRIMARCH! 

Dude had a mom cant tell me thats not the reason he ended up the most normal one LUL

​@@olorin3815 I laughed way too hard at your comment. 😂

The khan is also a rational adult.

​@falcor2325 Yes. But he's a little less responsible. He'd never agree to be Lord Commander. Almost every Primarch has the mental capacity to be Lord Commander but not every Primarch would accept that responsibility. The Khan wants to roam.

The most adult, adult, that's ever adulted. In a setting very much needing a lot more adulting

Hah

Somebody had to do it!

Hhh

Guilliman is such a Bro/Genefather literally making Illiyan Nastase so that Tigurius can have someone to talk shit to the Hivemind with

Dont blame him. Gave him one to get the other. Quick maffs

Well said!

Logistics wins conflicts

I really hope Gman unlocks his warp power and becomes an absolute beast on the battlefield, worthy of his better combat brothers. (Khan, Corvus, Angron, Lion) THE AVENGING SON!!

Facts

​@@TheSickjitshis warp ability is being the emperor's favorite sock puppet, when he's in danger big E slips the hand of plot armor up his ass and works him like a puppet

...what? Hes not Ferrus Manus, guilliman is the taylor swift of 40k as in hes constantly shoved in our faces lol open your eyes

Haha, yeah he’s just dull

Daddy that we all need bun not deserv(

Once things get to a certain size logistics is everything.

He would be literally perfect for us all right now. I think.

Soldiers win battles. Generals win wars. Administrators win civilizations.

This is the quote !!!!

Madness? THIS IS TERRRRAAAAAHH (if Russ returned first and put in place of Gulliman)

tell that Dorne and the Gorgon

​@@thodan467 tbh the gorgon is pretty much sad and disappointed with how his legion ended up. If he saw them now he would be as depressed as g man is atm

It wasn't just that, the entirety of Ultramar (500+ worlds) was a carefully orchestrated machine that could nurture potential recruits in large numbers, detect them early on for elevation to the chapter and train them and equip them en masse efficiently and effectively. The Ultramarines however are not he best at anything specific, but are good enough at most everything and are tactically and strategically versatile on top of being the best supplied legion, they may not have the best most advanced equipment (that goes to the the iron Hands, Iron Warriors and Salamanders), but they had more reserve equipment than any other legion and wherever they went had more tools available to them for a given campaign. Where other legions relied entirely on specific tactics, strategies, engagement methods or unique powers, the Ultramarines had a little of all that at all times and where flexible enough to change tactics and strategies faster and more efficiently than almost any other legion and hold the record for most tactics and strategies variations of all the legions. This culminated in the Ultramarines having a lower casualty rate than any other legion by far, combined with their high recruitment and logistical potential made their ranks swell by sheer virtue of efficiency alone. In fact at some point Guilliman was conquering and making planets compliant by the sheer fear of facing the vast Ultramarines legion, which allowed Guilliman to conquer planets at a high rate with 0 casualties, implement his tried and true methods of enhancing efficiency and making lives better faster and allowing him to move on faster than any other legion by far. It is not that Guilliman valued the lives of his marine more or less than any other of his brothers (with the exception of Angron), but that he always sought to keep casualties to as low as possible in any conflict (to increase his efficiency) and so retain always as much of his fighting power as possible at all times. Again playing on his role as master administrator and logistician on all sides of the numbers game.

@@Keemperor40K with other words mediocre at everything

@@davidpower5710 both valued their mens lives

Good thing he amazing at both and also anger management since dealing with the high lords is something else

I do not consider Magnus and Angron dumb

@@thodan467 okay

rule and govern

Guilliman is basically a builder of empires and a creator of civilizations that can stand the test of time and thrive. His one very specific trait is his ability to see a pattern, analyze it break it down and make it more effective and efficient, extremely useful in war and combat, but equally indispensable for a statesman and a manager of a realm of any size and complexity.

Having Ward miles away from the character and the lore single-handedly gave Gorillaman a chance to shine.

I want to like the ultramarines because of guilimen but matt ward ruined them for me. Wich is why I picked Crimson Fists. They're like ultramarines but flawed and face serous Challenges.​@NueThunderKing

@@PhthaloGreenskin I like their Fall of Damnos novel, they actually get their ass kicked and a ultrasmurth gets saved from a necron by a baseline human.

They're the best still.

"He is real angy" 😂

Dobut that Angron stil capable of such thing as arguments.

*Chainaxe swings*

Average Primarchs conquered worlds. Good Primarchs conquered systems. Guilliman didn't just conquer sectors, he turned them into parts of a machine designed to conquer & convert more planets, systems & sectors. Boys study war. Men study logistics.

In any campaign he had to fight, Guilliman sought to preserve as many of his Marines as possible and to retain as much of the existing infrastructure intact as possible. This meant that he spent the least amount of time rebuilding a world after compliance and allowed him to implement his tried and true methods in the shortest time possible, leaving a planet to fend for itself with all the tools needed to rebuild bigger and better than before. At some point he didn't even had to fight as the fear the size of his legion generated had many planets surrender without a fight and all Guilliman had to do was ensure proper compliance under Imperial rules, based on his own treatises of efficiency and governance which tended to be far better than the original civilizations variation by far and resulted in strong, stable and thriving planets that could begin to serve the Imperium in a short span of time.

Horus's marines were largely gangsters. Makes sense.

Dorne has issues?

​@@thodan467 Uh yeah. Remember the Iron Cage?

@@MrMcp1995 Yes

@thodan467 Someone who doesn't have issues wouldn't have done what Dorn did there.

@@MrMcp1995 Why not?

He may not be the single best in most areas, but he is in the top tier in enough areas that Guilliman ends up being the strongest overall leader for the Imperium.

Ironically Guilliman would be happiest being a lowly farmer, simply growing his crops, cutting them down and selling them season in and season out. Of all the Primarchs his final dream is the simplest and most humble of all and for a man who has been given everything and everything came easy this is the true litmus test of personality, being content with the least.

Most "well adjusted" pehaps.

In DnD terms, an enchanter.

You mean galactic scale!!

also his tendency not to risk troops lives, (angon charge!....)

Also his ability to coordinate an entire empire to nurture, find, recruit, train and equip Marines at a faster rate than any other legion by far. No other legion had or could match the capability of the Ultramarines to swell their ranks with new recruits faster than the Ultramarines did and it wasn't even a contest how far above everyone Guilliman was in his ability to increase the number of legionnaires under his name, even without taking into account the swell by the two lost legions.

@@Keemperor40K people really do tend to ignore the fact the guy had a whole empire of 500 worlds to recruit from while pretty much every other primarch had 1 and sometimes a death world at that. I mean based off the theory that Guilliman got the marines from the lost legions so would have Dorn since they were the two who argued in their favor the most. So something else has to come into play to explain his legions size aka ultramar among other things.

Along with Vulkan and perhaps Corax.

Man I hope Vulkan returns soon. They would be amazing together with the Lion bringing wrath to their traitor brothers

Yes, until the Emperor returns and messes it all up! I swear that the Emperor put every last piece of his common sense he had into Guilliman and left nothing for himself. Big E had such a great idea to hide Chaos from all of his sons and then not tell them about the human webway project. If he had done just those two things, Big E would never have ended up on the Golden Throne because there most likely would never have been a Horus Heresy. The only other thing that Big E could have done to stop the Heresy would have been to take Lorgar off to a private place and have a long, conscientious discussion about the whole Emperor worship thing instead of destroying Monarchia.

​@@mistercmartin Anyone criticizing Big E fails to see the sheer magnitude of the responsibilities he had, the foes he was facing and the personal sacrifices he's had to make. And just how little time he had, a thousand years is NOTHING for beings such as the chaos gods. The more Guilliman learns about the true nature of the universe, the more he empathizes with his father. Remember that chaos considers him their most hated enemy and the one being they fear, and think about what that says about him and his achievements.

He did lose to mortarion, but that wasn't a fair fight tbh.

@@pghj100 I feel like g man has low warp magic resistance.

@InternetSupervillain I wouldn't say that for sure. The godblight was made with his blood to specifically kill him and spread from there. That implies that most of what nurgle has can't do much to him. He also resisted the athame which had turned horus traitor.

@@InternetSupervillainthere’s the theory that all the Primarch are half Warp Gods in the first place, so having a degree of Warp resistance would be rational.

@@pghj100 I think he meant psychic shenanigans rather than Nurgle's contageons. I mean, think about it, Morty 'defeated' GMan through copius application of psychic assault and warp sorcery rather than through feat of arms. The same thing happened during his fight against Kor Phaeron, Lorgar and Magnus. So I would say he's got a good point.

Vulkan is definitely the most humane (with GMan being a close second) but is he the best , though??

Yes. He is the best. The perpetual Primarch. In a free for all battle Royal the only one left standing.

@@pitchforksdragon1252 I don't deny that but there is a lot more to primarching than just winning fisticuffs!!

@@anirecapped. Agreed. But if there is a Warhammer 80k 🤷🏼‍♂️ Vulkan leads humanity against the king in black 💯

@@pitchforksdragon1252 Hmm... that makes sense.

An immortal life of PTSD doesn't sounds like it creates a well balanced person.

@@snewsom2997 lmao, I guess we shall see when ole boy comes back lol.

Vulkan and Guilliman are the Emperors Greatest success stories and the best part: it was the men and women of the imperium that raised them into who they were

he and guilliman both were the collectors of knowledge, magnus was a warp junky, which lead to his downfall.

​@@user-in9in8hf9wnot a warp junky just way to overconfident and rash. Bro really need a sit down with big e about the warp

What about the raven

@@davidpower5710 its not a phase - emo

Its in all of us