Why Motorcycle SEAT HEIGHT Doesn't Matter - Too Short For a SUPERMOTO? 

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Seat height absolutely matters. I'm 5'6" and ride a sumo. It's actually a converted 4 stroke GPX similar to what Megs Braap has in that picture. I can get the balls of my feet down so I can manage it in stop and go and slow speed traffic, where you'll be putting your feet down often, but someone shorter is going to have a much harder time.

Man I'm gonna get me a bike that's 10 feet in the air with the rubber on the road

It has nothing to do with fear of riding a Super Moto. Being able to get both feet, at least toes, on the ground is important. Yes, you can just one leg it, but that gets old fast in traffic. A lowering link is a very viable option for some. Lower the forks too though.

Awesome build!!

CycleCruza, you need to get a motorcycle where you have to put one foot down to really have something to say about it. I'm 5'4 and have had 3 motorcycles where I had to put one foot down and I got use to it, but it gets tiring after a while as you have to be mindful to keep your balance when coming to a stop and to determine which foot to place down when the road is sloped or have a divot in the road where you may not want to put your foot down. Whereas, if you could place both feet down at a stop it's easier to keep the bike up and secure without having to think about it much. I laid my bike down twice coming to stop or driving slowly as once the bike is leaning to far, there is no going back as the bike is too heavy to keep it up. Also, you can't really compare a bicycle to a heavier motorcycle. I'm now cruising on a cruiser and I like it! Keepin both feet down.

It’s not different from you complaining about big heavy baggers. We have small skinny ladies riding heavy bikes like a boss.

I can't flat-foot my 425 lb XSR900 and it's ok. Not on tippy toes, but definitely can't flat foot. My inseam isn't too bad though, about 32". But that's a measurement, not my jeans size. Jeans size is 30". But I've had close calls on uneven ground when the patch of ground you put your foot down on is slippery and/or marbles and gravel. Then it took a lot of upper body strength to catch the bike because ground isn't predictable at all. But I challenge you to put a temporary 5 or 6 inch seat riser on your bike and go ride in traffic and uneven ground. Strap a rolled up towel or chunk of hard foam on there and get seat height to about 40 inches and go ride your bike. That's what it's like for someone really short trying to ride a tall bike. You being about 6 ft tall or whatever, it's easy to talk. Talk is cheap, go do it! LOL ✌

Jocelyn Snow has some EXCELLENT training videos for short riders on tall bikes.

It actually does matter when you brake suddenly on the street or sudden stops at lights. Or off-road in technical terrain.

I’m a dual sport guy, a short one at that. And Even though I can ride an XR650l, I had to settle on a shorter bike. The 650l is just way too tall for me. I can’t just leave one foot on a peg to flat foot the other one. The bike is so tall, and I’m so short, that my foot comes off the peg, and my butt cheek hangs down one side, with my other leg sticking straight out the other side like I’m signaling to turn right, and I look like a monkey hanging off the side of that bike at the red light! Lol... Like I said, I’m not scared to ride anything. Some bikes just aren’t comfortable due to seat height.

Seat height matters ALOT! Try cornering a Duna Glyde vs a supersport!

You know I was gonna right out a long ass explanation, but I’m just gonna sum it up in one word…. Physics 😂 Easily the best performance upgrade to a bike is having the suspension custom tuned to your weight, height, and ride style.

A bike that's too tall can be nearly impossible to back into a parking space that has an incline. Even on tippy-toes, you won't get enough traction move backwards. I lowered CRF300L Rally with a KoubaLink.

1 foot down is the easiest tip for a shorter rider to learn and it opens up every kinda 🏍 to you. Teaching my gf how to ride, it was the 1st thing I taught her as she's barely 5'4" and she was self conscious about every bike she sat on at the dealership.

I have the 690 Enduro R which is abit higher than the SMC and I'm 5.7 inches, I use only one leg (more like tippy toes).. To be honest it's abit sucks in city traffic but it makes you a better rider because the lack of the ability to use both of your legs. Like a blind person who has better hearing sence. It's all about how much you love and want this motorcycle!

Hey CC, just got a new mt07. It's great!

People always seem to get stuck on the height issue but in reality, they should focus more on the inseam. I've seen shorter people who have longer legs than I do. It is a rider's legs that has to deal with the reality of the seat height.

I have no problem riding my drz400sm, but mounting it can be a small challenge, i get up kickstand side using foot peg ,i just put one down or tip toe

Talking about you feelin like you're riding an electric bike, I ordered a Ryvid OUTSET which is actually an electric bike 😂 Just cause it's quiet doesn't meet its slow😜 I plan on doing strict city riding, so I think it will work well for me so I don't have to worry about oil changes and prices of gas going up.

Cycle cruiser, can I ask a weird question. Is it normal for 1 or two finger to not reach the whole way in a glove?? I have tried about 15 pairs now and for some reason not all my fingers reach! I've tried all different size gloves to no avail. Just not sure if this is common and I need to get use to it or if I'm just a gimp lol. Currently I'm wearing a pair of Alpine Stars SP8 ADV gloves and a couple of fingers are short!

If you are riding in urban areas, seat height absolutely matters....He mentioned ADV bikes, try being in traffic on a 600lb bike when you can only tippy toe with one foot. Once they start tipping, you are not catching them.

You said it sounds like a scooter.. lol.. my Honda Beat 110FI here in the Philippines has an exhaust on it and sounds really mean hahaha

I intentionally try not to put feet down when ride. Unless the light just turned red i dont

Why is a problem? Same reason for most things in motorcycles: PEOPLE ARE LAZY AND DON'T WANT TO PUT OUT THE EFFORT. Just pay dollars and solve everything instead. Look up Jocelin Snow BMW. She is a tiny woman (5'-1") throwing around a big heavy BMW R1200GSA and TRAINING people to ride, compete, and more.

True, but I want to be able to put 1 point of contact down. I dont want to pull any tricks of getting off bike or sliding way off seat everytime stop. More importantly need to get enough of foot leg down to push off kickstand. I could not when tried sitting on an ibex 800. Did not try teal hard in between bikes. But that is an issue when tank full. Again i know I could put one foot on and swing over other as driving away. Not trying to do all the tricks.

Im 155 cm 5 foot 1 i think. I was scared of supermotos I started with a pit bike, an apollo x18 with a seat height of 34 inches I did struggle at the beginning but just like the video says once I started getting comfortable I didn't care that I had to lean to one side when stopping. Nowadays I finally owns a ktm supermoto 125. If I could achieve it, anyone taller than 155 cm can also :P

I don't have problems with flat footing my bike since I am tall enough to do it. When I do have money I will not be getting a super moto. I will be getting a Honda cb1000r, or a MT09, or 10. With my luck I will probably getting a Honda. It don't really matter since I just want a bump in the engine not just for speed but to carry my big body around the streets and not on the dirt road which I plan not going on since I'm to old to be playing in the dirt. I just want a nice naked sport bike and those are the two that I have chosen as my future bike.

I can flat foot my r1 but I never do. Toes on the left side only

it matters on stop and go traffic, unless you are super fit, otherwise it will be exhausting, on the Track, you can ride a bike with 70 inches seat height :D , on the street commute, get one where you can flat foot both feet....................

I’m 5’9””. And can fly foot my SMCR.

Now I’m almost your height I’m 5 11 I’ve road bikes that feel fairly tall for me and figured it out maybe your next bike should be the tallest bike you can find I’ve been on bikes that feel to tall but once your on it it’s fine

I disagree Cruza. It does matter. The question is how much it matters, and it depends on the bike. I'm 5'4" with a 28" inseam and don't flat foot any bike this side of a cruiser (which I don't ride). It also matters on what surface you ride. As a short rider, I have to be more careful where I put my foot down. That's every time I ride and every time I come to a stop. There's a lot of nuisances that come into play that don't get mentioned on short rider videos.

Teaching my 5 yr old the same thing 😂

Cycle Cruza. I generally love your videos but you as 6 foot with long legs giving advice for shorter riders is like the carpenter telling the mechanic how to fix the car. The problem with seat height mainly has to do with the embarrassment that comes from dropping the bike at the parking lot or having to get off the bike to walk it. There is a danger when doing an emergency stop and the bike is not perfectly balanced. In those situations you will need your feet to not drop the bike in the middle of traffic. Beginner riders always have fear when stopping the bike on traffic. One of the motorcycle skills is to stop the bike balanced. Experienced riders may know how to stop the bike balanced but they prefer not having to deal with difficult techniques to deal with the seat height. Riding is about the joy of riding and if something about a motorcycle takes away from that joy then it defeats the purpose. When it comes to beginners, if you push a bike on a beginner that will the rider feel uncomfortable chances are that rider will not like the experience and quit. It's better to encourage new riders to ride a motorcycle they feel comfortable with learning. Once the rider learns skills and feel comfortable they will choose whatever motorcycle style they like. There are all kinds of techniques that can be used to stop a tall bike with short legs but it gets tiring very quickly in traffic. I do agree that 99.9% of the time you only need one foot. Your left foot because your right foot should be on the brake. When it comes to super moto it is not the seat height, it's more that some people don't like that style of motorcycle. Super motos tend to be skinny so the seat height is not as much of a big deal as some adventure bikes that are tall, wide and heavy.

It’s pretty difficult to complain about seat height when MegsBraap rides nothing shorter than a 37” seat height, AND she does it successfully in the most gnarly situations.

Small person Cruza, small person. Not the M word.

Has the muffler arrived yet?

You talked about the same thing at least 3 times in past videos.

LOL...i know a girl who rides a R1, and she's 5'1" 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

There's more to it , it feels gay having a seat cramming you in the butt , goes for bicycles too

get rid of that nuclear reactor ktm calls an exhaust

Seat height DOES matter Rick, and it can be proven IF you are ready to take a challenge rather than just talk smack. Construct a 8" tall seat riser/extension for any one of your bikes. This way you simulate exactly being 5'4" tall. Now ride that in city traffic. Choose roads with lots of camber. Ride in the rain and dark. Ride off road...then see how foolishly you're speaking.

He doesnt ride in traffic and probably has a 34 inseam. Like someone said. Raise your seat 8 inches and ride it downtown in heavy traffic hed change his song real quick