Why St. Louis Missouri Is Special

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Just to let ya'll know where I'm comin' from....
"Why St. Louis Is Special"
Filmed 2016-2022
©2022 Dozenspeed Film Foundation Archive Diatribe Department
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Original Public Release: July 6th, 2022
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"Blue Mood" by Robert Munzinger (DSVS 200 Extended Edit)
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@gregwilkinson5185 Год назад

There's more to St. Louis than just the city. The whole metropolitan area is a lot bigger than just the city, and that includes in Illinois.

@desidaken3929 Год назад

I love the whole metro as well. So many cool things to do and places to eat and visit everywhere you go here

@dunkirchen1940 Год назад

I was stationed at Scott Air Force Base for 5 years and took St Louis for granted... Now that I am a civilian back in Wisconsin, my love for St Louis has blossomed from the great memories I made there. My wife, son, and I went on vacation there two summers ago and will definitely be back! Love the city so much! If it wasn't for my family ties up here, I would move down to St Louis.

@Dozenspeed Год назад

It's nice to hear that this city can still have a little romantic pull to someone who can see beyond the negatives. I prefer your Wisconsin summers though! FYI, I visited just last summer and plan to have some "Wisconsin videos" coming out on this channel in the future. Cheers!

@Idrinklight44 19 дней назад

Lived in dent Co MO for 20 yrs, a whole bunch of the transplants were from Wisconsin. They all loved the weather!

@desidaken3929 Год назад

I visited in 2007 and fell head over heels in love with the city. It is absolutely my dream city

@dianahohimer1107 Год назад

I loved your comment. I was born there and it gets tiring hearing nothing but bad things about my city

@desidaken3929 Год назад

@@dianahohimer1107 I couldn't agree more. The crime statistics are skewed anyway because the city itself isn't part of St. Louis County anyway. This whole metro has so much to offer

@nopulpapple991 Год назад

I moved to LA and Japan for years before returning to St. Louis. I originally left STL anxious for better places and people, but ended up missing it greatly and feeling sad about our history. I found myself becoming protective and proud of my city, especially after Ferguson when STL came up in conversation; or at the very least, when people would ask me where I'm from I would always give a solid plug in. Otherwise, who else cares? When the pandemic hit (prompting my return), I brought my native LA roommate and college friend who needed a place. While it's not a city he would choose to live in, he did stay for two years, found a STL lover, gained great respect for the Midwest and the people living there and definitely considers it a second home. Currently becoming a history major. Gonna make sure someone keeps this place to heart just for a couple stories.

@Dozenspeed Год назад

Welcome back, we need more positive people on the team! :)

@sylviamayo379 13 дней назад

"Awesome Awesome" YOU ARE THE FIRST CHANNEL to give more of the St. Louis, Mo story. You did a GREAT job and to add I also loved the back ground music. You also included the 2nd Empire home that is being Restored (The Brown's House on St. Louis Ave,) I always watch that channel as well. Keep up the good work.🥰🥰🥰🥰🙏🙏🙏🙏

@Dozenspeed 4 дня назад

Thank you very much, I might not be the first but I felt a lack of positive, hopeful light out there on the subject, and that's what compelled me to make it. I was super fortunate to get to film a tour of the Brown house with Kaleb himself, and it's on here too. Even though you know the whole story and are up to date, you might want to check it out too because I think it was a tidy, comprehensive summary of the situation then, which at nearly 3 years old might be neat to look back on from my 3rd party camera. It was filmed just before the electricity was re-wired! Kaleb was awesome to me that day and did a fire job presenting the house. Notice the interior tour was done in 1 single 26-minute take! I thought that was super cool. Anyway thanks for your support and such, I promise I have things going on and more to come, albeit even if it is not all Saint Louis related. Cheers, TYFW

@ifyoure555thenim666 2 месяца назад

I'm a transplanted southerner trying to make their way back to the lou. Don't worry my guy, St. Louie's got mad love.

@moartrainz4242 Год назад

Totally agree that the city should focus on functioning more like an actual city, but also think we should invest more in our public services. Great work!

@Shareleader 10 месяцев назад

Great video! I have lived in St. Louis City for 72 years and recognized every shot in the video! I also agree with you Dozenspeed--we have much to offer!!!! Let's just start punishing the criminals so they will stop doing the crimes!

@gmitchell91 10 дней назад

I always have and always will love St. Louis. It truly is a special place. Beautiful video.

@Dozenspeed 4 дня назад

I'll agree to the first 2 sentences and thank you kindly for the 3rd, much appreciated!

@Alkaline_Saint 11 месяцев назад

THANK YOU for this. My job is moving me to St.Louis, and I really didn’t think it could possibly be as bad as people say.

@Dozenspeed 11 месяцев назад

You're quite welcome, thank you for watching. 🙂

@kimbrown5024 6 месяцев назад

It's not! It has some wonderful things to offer.. just stay out of certain pockets in the "north" st. louis city and you'll be fine. I'm moving back in 2025 when my husband retires. we are both from St. Louis. we had to move to El Paso 20 years ago, but we'll be moving back and hope to find a house in West County.

@stevew9247 2 года назад

I never understood just how eager Americans are to destroy old Architecture. Millions of us travel to Europe every year and the primary reason is to see the centuries old structures.

@darealberrygarcia Год назад

Such a nice video, thanks

@timothythomas1951 Год назад

Haven't been to St.Louis since August 1977

@Dozenspeed 11 месяцев назад

That's quite a while! You come visit, I bet that'd be quite the nostalgia trip! Cheers, TYFW 😎

@timothythomas1951 Год назад

Rest in Peace Uncle & Auntie

@mymusicmixminute 2 дня назад

Appreciate your views and thoughts on St Louis- the area would be much better off if they adopted a few of them. I've lived here twice, 1981-86 and 2021-current, and having made a few laps around this country I can say this is a great place. Not perfect, not everything I've ever wanted, but I have enjoyed my time here and still do!

@nonyabisness-cg7mf 9 месяцев назад

Wonderful video. Well thought out with great video. My three times great grandfather, a French fur trader immigrated here from Canada. He was with Pierre Laclede and Auguste Chouteau. Ultimately they ended up parting ways due to a dispute. My grandfather settled the land along River DesPere, built a ferry in Arnold, owned most of what is now Jefferson Barracks Cemetery. He built Lemay Ferry Rd to Bayless using a grapevine (the root is a consistent 6 ft). He married an Indian princess from the Tamoro Tribe. He is not mentioned in the historical story with Shaw, Chouteau and Laclede however, the city of Arnold has a nice memorial set up at their city library. My father grew up in the Bevo Mill area and went to St Marys. As for me, I am a 100% suburbanite lol (Kirkwood).

@Healthyagingwithmarvin Год назад

I love the movie. Well said. I really like St Louis as well. I would love to see the city grow again. I hope life brings me back to my hometown again.

@JonathanLeggs 2 года назад

Very very well done! At the 5 minute mark was my old elementary school. In chronicling our city I can totally relate when you said “…it feels like it’s breaking my heart on a daily basis”. I was born and raised here and I can feel everything you highlighted.

@Rene_Lhote 2 года назад

Would like to give this a hundred thumbs up. One important observation in this video was that mistakes, including the same mistakes, keep being made over and over by the city's decision makers. So true.

@CJColvin Год назад

There's just wayyyyyyy too many hoodrats, bums, and thugs in the city of St.Louis. The city of St.Louis's major downfall is the city of St.Louis seceding from St.Louis County in 1876, had it stayed with the County then it wouldn't have as many issues as it has now and it would remain as Missouri's largest city as well.

@MoromoMusic Год назад

St Louis is the best kept secret! I moved here from Minneapolis. I like Minneapolis but it's too expensive. I live in the state streets. I have seen so much improvement and redevelopment since I've been here. As an outsider, moving in, I am extremely optimistic about the future of our city

@Dozenspeed Год назад

The "state streets" have a rep some folks will never let go of, but it's nice to hear such an optimistic disposition, do your best to hang on to it. Cheers

@bigdallyc Год назад

I lived on Montana St off of S Grand. I loved it.

@peggyoliver7757 2 года назад

Beautiful video!! Great insights. Have you ever considered running for office? I'm serious. We need people who care about the city AND who care about people.

@Dozenspeed 2 года назад

Oh my they'd eat me alive! I think I better stick with aspiring film maker, but thanks for your high praise. :)

@alexsafonov7270 3 месяца назад

amen brother!

@jeffwebb2966 2 года назад

Thank you for the great video and thoughtful comments. I grew up in Spanish Lake, but my family has a long history of living and having a business in the Hyde Park area. Family went to Beaumont and city schools. I moved to Atlanta and other places but came back to STL because I love it too. I think your reference to sellmanship is so accurate. We shoot ourselves in the foot so often as a metro area because fellow STL metro residents are so vocal about what a horrible place the city is to others. When I lived in Atlanta it was like a constant cheer from everyone how great things were there, even though they have many problems too. I bought a historic home in the Academy neighborhood and love my area and neighbors. Let's work together to bring things back and enjoy the great architecture, city amenities, and great history of our city. I look forward to further videos.

@Dozenspeed 2 года назад

Hey Jeff thanks for taking the time to write such a nice insightful comment. Everyone's response so far has been very positive to this film. There certainly are some salty folks among us here and it's probably only a matter of time before one shows up to tell me what an idealistic idiot I am. I have new videos coming that won't be as poignant as this, back to lightheartedness for me but I think you might like one I'm currently working on about an endangered but intact and still operating 179 year old chuch. Cheers and thanks for watching.

@arkybaldknobber8062 Год назад

SNOWFLAKE ALERT!!!!!!!!!!!

@dodgermartin4895 Месяц назад

I moved to the middle of Missouri 2 yrs ago, and ventured in and around StL. I love the southern part of the city, the big park with the zoo and museums. Like every other big city, the suburbs are really nice... similar to a city like Philadelphia... the city itself is a pile of crud, but the suburbs have a lot of charm. I prefer to live in the Flyover State region... lots of cool towns like Hermann.

@digitalvideotronicsintl 2 года назад

Great piece, thank you for your work!

@Dozenspeed 2 года назад

Thank you for watching and your encouraging compliment, cheers.

@timothythomas1951 Год назад

My Uncle Henry T Thomas & My Auntie Nedra Ruth Jackson-Thomas lived in St.Louis

@patmo131 9 месяцев назад

After 4 generations of my family being in St. Louis and surrounding area, I took my family and left. You hit the nail on the head with the statement about “an immoral few.” Unfortunately, those people have too much power and they aren’t very bright.

@Dozenspeed 6 месяцев назад

Sad but true, don't give up the hope. Thanks for watching and the poignant comment.

@spd_bird 2 года назад

Amazing. Coming from Cleveland, it feels like the city made many of the same mistakes as STL and now is in a similar situation. If they can take a page from your video, I feel like they would get a lot more done in improving the city and making it live up to its full potential rather than being just the "mistake on the lake"

@Dozenspeed 2 года назад

Thanks for sharing your comment! An unexpected delight to think sentiments of my little St. Louis video could relate to other folks about their own cities. Cheers

@30smsuperstrat Год назад

I think most cities are experiencing similar issues. My personal perspective is that it's the long-term effects of our shifting economy.

@Fly420 10 месяцев назад

Thank You! That was a breath of fresh air. And to think I used to play at Gaslight Square, watched Ike & Tina at the Imperial Ballroom, saw Stan the Man smack dat ball, and played CYC soccer for St Anthony's and almost made the Kutis team. If I actually had to live in the City of St Louis, I'd live just South of the Delmar Loop. In that part of town, not everybody walks around with a race chip on their shoulder. But I would probly be working in Earth City where the average salary is well above 70k. Which means this ol white boy would live in St Charles or St Peter.

@Dozenspeed 10 месяцев назад

Thank you for watching. 🙂

@dirkwyse1609 Год назад

Awesome content, excellent production values. Did you do the drone shots?

@Dozenspeed Год назад

Thank you kindly, I did what I could to make it as good as I could. Generally I record everything on this channel except the music of course, and make it a priority to credit whatever I didn't shoot myself. TYFW 🙂

@grantbuxton 2 года назад

My great grandfather owned the gas station that used to be right in front of the arch

@Dozenspeed 2 года назад

That'd be a neat photo to see!

@WILL_E_1 Месяц назад

Phuuuck yesss

@HistoricallyMarked 2 года назад

First, great video. Well written or thought out! There's lots to say here, and I do agree with you on lots. I mean, I'm one of those that criticizes the city government among other things. St. Louis is like a lot of other cities, but I wish they can take a page or two from some others. Nashville has people on the streets shopping, listening to music and enjoying themselves every night of the week. I was in Kansas City last month and the area looked so clean compared to St. Louis. It's almost like they tore down their unused abandoned buildings and replaced them with newer ones or actually did something right away with them like revamping them. I saw young people walking the streets all over Kansas City (something I don't see very much, if not at all, in STL). OKC, too. I could go on. But STL will always be my home city and the history and culture will always go unmatched.

@leepacoindustries55 2 года назад

Very nice video. I have always felt something special about the city of St. Louis as well. It has a unique architecture and culture. It sort of exists in a cultural transition zone between the south and midwest. There are also French elements in the architecture and history. I've been filming videos in the St. Louis and East St. Louis area for a very long time. I tend to focus more on the blighted side, there is a lot of that there and I try to capture it on video before it is all completely gone. Thanks for this video.

@Dozenspeed Год назад

Thank you for the nice comment, it's nice to know others have similar sentiments. Cheers

@tholi1052 2 года назад

Very well done. Good balance of the good (great architecture), the bad (leadership, lack of leaders with vision, loss of major employers because St Louis politicians did not care or understand the importance of big business) and the ugly ( deteriorating sections of town and loss of historic architecture). Great driving scenes and excellent drone coverage.

@Dozenspeed 2 года назад

Thank you very much. :)

@grantbuxton 2 года назад

There is grand architecture

@BillStreeter Год назад

All I can say is “Nailed it!” Great job on the video!

@Dozenspeed Год назад

Thank you. :)

@roadwarrior528 2 года назад

Great video. Hope to visit the city one of these days.

@Dozenspeed 2 года назад

Thanks, be sure to watch lots of my St. Louis videos for guidance haha! Cheers

@roadwarrior528 2 года назад

@@Dozenspeed I will do that!

@mellitrom629 2 года назад

1:55 you're doing us all a huge favor by documenting these buildings as well. the drone footage is great too.

@Dozenspeed 2 года назад

That's a very satisfying compliment, thank you. :)

@lisahuffman6366 11 месяцев назад

I'm from here and I love this that you appreciate the architecture even tho it is so bad

@Dozenspeed 10 месяцев назад

There is plenty of stuff to fix up, and plenty that already has been, sometimes more than once! Truth is we'll never build with this much brick and style again, a lot of places in USA don't have even this much, so we should keep as much grandfathered-in structure as we can. Cheers, TYFW

@bolly8850 Год назад

I’m gonna study here next year! Thank you for the informative video!☺ Very helpful!

@chrisdean6700 Год назад

Get your concealed carry permit & carry a piece.

@susancheer5981 Год назад

Great video. I had only been to St Louis on a cross country road trip years ago and that was just a pass through. I was there in June visiting my daughter who now lives there and I loved it. Regarding your comments about city hall, she was telling me that some 'developer' got the city to give him all kinds of grants, funds, etc. to make certain areas better, big talker sounds like the guy was, and now 10 years later---nothing. While driving around and her telling me this story and seeing some of the neighborhoods, we came up with all kinds of ideas. Like for one, if you had someone competent in city hall, you would initiate a program and match low income folks that want to be a home owner with contractors willing to participate and high school kids that need or want to learn a trade. The kids and would be homeowners work with the contractors to get the house up to snuff so they can buy it, and the youngsters learn a trade along side the tradesmen. Granted, not all of those once beautiful homes can be saved, but there appeared to be many that could be resurrected. Such a beautiful and interesting city, it's just a shame that these days, corruption and incompetence are the name of the game in most areas of government.

@susanjennings9624 2 года назад

Well done I love the STL!!

@Dozenspeed 2 года назад

Thanks! Me too! Cheers TFW

@coachjon03 Год назад

Very good video my friend 👍

@Dozenspeed Год назад

Thank you 👍

@kerryrussell8363 2 года назад

Love this!!

@Dozenspeed 2 года назад

I'm glad, thank you for watching. :)

@Carol-wj4gw Год назад

I’m a Grandmother now but as a kid I grew up in the Soulard neighborhood. Later moved out to the suburbs. Married and due to job, later moved to another State. But I have nothing but wonderful memories of StL and it offers so much to go see and do and enjoy. I always thought it was a shame the city limits weren’t moved out further in the city as a great number in population are outside those city lines all the way around it. But great video. Really enjoyed it.

@scienceownsimposters2142 11 месяцев назад

Magical & legendary Palma de Mallorca is the most visited city per square mile in Europe & the second most visited city in the world per square mile & in 2023(most tourists ever in the history of Mallorca)it is expected to be the most visited city in the world per square mile....

@courtesylicking9312 11 месяцев назад

alot different staying in the city and visiting a city. county's are nice and fine but the inner city gets bad at night quick

@Dozenspeed 11 месяцев назад

This is pretty true, although some areas of the city might be preferable places to be at night compared to select places in the county. 🙂

@michaelhughes3273 Год назад

We just moved to Ladue but stationed at Scott AFB. Easy 30 min drive, mostly on I64. Clayton's skyline, I feel, rivals that of St. Louis. Sure, you research areas that you wouldn't go, every big city had its hood. But, a lot less expensive to live in Missouri than in Illinois. Plus, we are discovering Delmar Loop. Pretty cool street. And with kids, lots of family stuff to do as well.

@Dozenspeed Год назад

I appreciate your positive take and good observations, try to keep that as St. Louis inevitably tries your emotions. Most of our issues aren't necessarily as unique as the metro is. If one chooses to look at things optimistically, there are many great attributes beyond the top ten lists to be discovered. I'm still discovering, discovering that I don't know all that much there is to know out there! I do have a decay fascination, but it is just one end of the spectrum of life cycle I appreciate. Cheers, TFW.

@grantbuxton 2 года назад

That trolley was a bust

@Dozenspeed 2 года назад

Not gonna argue with you about that! ;)

@philiptuths3747 Год назад

The trolley is back!

@Cortisoulm8 Год назад

This timely, plaintive plea almost reads as though the ghost of Mark Twain himself wrote it.

@Dozenspeed Год назад

I'm going to take that as a big fat profound compliment, thank you. 🙂

@hen1588 Год назад

3:11 where is this?

@Dozenspeed Год назад

Off Union Blvd just South of Delmar. 🙂

@hen1588 Год назад

@@Dozenspeed Thank you

@ZZZzzzap12 5 месяцев назад

And the real estate is affordable...

@Dozenspeed 5 месяцев назад

I appreciate when people see the upside. 🙂

@amyshew1151 Год назад

I think St Louis is the most beautiful US city . If only it were located where SanFrancisco or SanDiego are on the map ? It hands down be the most sought after city to live in . The remains of the 1904 Worlds Fair scattered about the city and the architecture , THE ARCHITECTURE! Simply the most beautiful city in the US ! People are very friendly in St Louis too . Of course , north city and crime have been in a state of abandonment ,sorrow and crime since I was a wee child : Bulldozing the cities failure to its people seems to be the only solution to those in power . It’s a real shame .

@ramencurry6672 Год назад

St. Louis needs to be moved to an Asian country so that way a good subway system can be built plus more foot traffic

@joedav02 Год назад

I love my STL. It’s definitely getting better but I wish the politicians loved it as much as I did. Thank you STL for everything

@roykinder4134 Год назад

I was really upset by the news the other day, said we lost first place for murders on the city streets to New Orleans. They took our first place away! But have no fear, I have faith in our people, we will reclaim our first place standing! I guess our people were just taking a break, you know, just resting up a bit before they get back to it. LMFAO!

@bettycold Год назад

If everybody in this city work together and keep this going we can get back the beauty of the north side and work on the crime area and help bring the people together weather they poor are rich, this can be the greatest city on earth,it’s already have the friendly and loving people. ❤️❤️❤️😍😍😍🥰🥰🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥👍

@Dozenspeed Год назад

Nice to hear from other optimists like myself. TYFW

@arkybaldknobber8062 Год назад

Ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,!!!!!!!!!

@lhu6971 Год назад

St.Louis has some of the biggest roaches you'll ever see.😂

@johnaltobello5095 4 месяца назад

Not anymore!!!!...

@rrxdeadman 9 месяцев назад

Cause it's the worst city to live in. Yup that's special.

@user-mm2yh1hr3c Год назад

did you explain the nuclear radiactive wastes that's ionizing all organic lifeform in a 100 mile radius worse than chernobyle because of administrative oversight and corruption of times past/????? make sure to mention that to your viewers or it just aint fair and balanced.

@Dozenspeed 11 месяцев назад

No, didn't really cover that, but that's an important topic for sure. As far as fair and balanced, I think it's pretty clear to most viewers what the angle of the video is. Thanks for checking it out. 🙂

@lilliandadon9048 2 года назад

How to improve the city while not pushing out its poor and homeless inhabitants

@Dozenspeed 2 года назад

Well that's the real trick, isn't it?

@locustkillah Год назад

Literally a city of suburbs , never seen such a lifeless , abandoned city in my life

@albertharrold6106 Год назад

Well you haven’t been to the Mississippi delta then …

@Goaltimer 7 месяцев назад

One from St. Louis told me once just stay west of 270 you are fine.

@kevinchurch2713 2 года назад

If you enjoy car break ins..robbings at metro link..assaults..highway shoot outs...and generally high crime rate...welcome to st. louis...drive at your own peril...

@bigdallyc Год назад

That's all overblown. I lived in the city for years, and I was never mugged, shot, robbed, or murdered.

@iknowdeweybrudda6564 7 месяцев назад

Same thing as Missouri side of kcmo

@JustinDeFiblander Год назад

Dont give up St Louis. You have a lot of more fight left in you. The home of the 11 time champion cardinals who of those 11, 3 alone came at hand DEFEATING the yankees. No defeat, no mercy, and no pain.

@grantbuxton 2 года назад

It's very dangerous, I've been there all my life, out of towners be careful

@shade0762 Год назад

Good luck to St Louis. It seems the political climate of Missouri may be part of the tragedy of this once great and hopefully future great again city.

@billsmith5960 Год назад

Actually, you perpetuate the problem with STL. Reason is, you show most of everything north of Delmar and try to tell us that we need to do something. Maybe, show the other 95% of the city and county. We all know STL is a nice place to live but for that 5%, it was a disaster back when I was a kid and when I visit there, it's just bottomed out never to return. I suggest that you move away from there and then do not visit for the next 5 years. Go back and you'll see, the bad areas are still there and are worse. I know, I moved away 30 years ago. When I visit places like Kinloch and Welstion today, they are worse. So the county and city do not care. They talked about helping these places out 30 years ago and obviously, it was just lip service. The Metrolink is turning into a mess too. I used to ride it all of the time and now when I do, I feel I'm a second away of getting robbed. As I've seen it happen a number of times. A pride and joy of mine when it started has been run into the ground. Good job BiState authority.

@eulogy4anange1 Год назад

We need a better voice and a better video. Lol

@Dozenspeed Год назад

Can't wait to see what you come up with! Cheers

@karisa1022 Год назад

St Louis is underrated and is a cool city. For a metropolitan area of 3 million, i would expect the skyline to be bigger

@Dozenspeed Год назад

I could see that, but there's a couple factors at play, for one, that 3 mil number is really, really spread out, at least 1000 square miles and includes Illinois. Less than 300,000 live in the actual St. Louis Missouri City limits. (The county is separate here.) Also, there is a rule you can't build a building here taller than the 630ft tall Arch. Thanks for watching!