This is EXACTLY why I’ve always said that the Grammy’s NEED to add an “Artist of the Year” category… I still don’t understand why they can have a “Best New Artist” category to reward the most notable newcomer of that year, but not a specific category to acknowledge the best overall musician of the year (LIKE EVERY SINGLE OTHER MUSIC AWARD CEREMONY DOES). Because of this, they have to snub other more deserving artists of a win, just so that they can reward someone else; this year being a prime example. SZA deserved that win, but Taylor had the bigger and most successful year. If they had that category, they could’ve easily gone the fair route and given SOS the award for Album OTY, while giving Taylor Artist OTY [I also just realized while typing this out that a reason why they may not have an “Artist of the Year” category is because it would have the same acronym as “Album of the Year” {AOTY}, but that can EASILY be resolved by changing the name of the category to “Musician of the Year” or something like that].
No cause fr, a lot of asian music award shows already have that category and I feel like it helps so much, (as long as it's not fanvoted tho, cause in that case the artist of the year usually also ends up getting the best album award even if there's much better albums nominated...)
as a swiftie, as much as I loved Midnights- it did not need a Grammy. Grammy wins need to have brought something new to the table. Folklore got a new folk-pop sound. 1989 became a pop bible. Midnights was? As great as the songwriting remained, musically it was the same sound, but she tried to make it edgier? SOS was beautiful, SZA deserved that Grammy. Her vocals make me want to just like melt because ahhhhh they're lovely :) I thought even Ocean blvd should've won the grammy, but as you've said- the recording academy can't take her seriously. She literally pioneered the entire noire pop genre. tbh, i think even taylor swift didn't expect the win. she said she never intended to announce the album on stage? this is enough evidence that it is obvious the recording academy doesn't care about what the music is bringing, but rather the image .
I feel the same way about 25 that you do about Midnights. I love love Adele and Hello was a huge hit but 25 wasn't her best work. It had great songs on it but it wasn't the laser-focused emotional gut punch that 21 was. It was almost like the award was given to her by default because of the return and off the strength of 21. Lemonade was intentional, layered and beautifully crafted. Not to mention deeply culturally impactful. It was the most upsetting loss for Beyonce for me. I wish you had mentioned that article that came out around last years Grammys when some academy members were asked about their reasons for voting. It gets really petty in there. Almost enough to make you stop paying attention anymore.
The Grammy voters actually said they didn’t like Taylor Swift and they didn’t want her to win for ATW (song of the year) so they voted against her. They voted for their favorite artists instead of the work. I’m a big Bonnie Raitt fan for the past 40yrs but her song was not SOTY, ATW was. Everyone knew it. But, the voters even said so they voted against Taylor because they didn’t want her to win. Thereby voting for the least likely to win thinking it wouldn’t skew the second choice, but it skewed the entire soty the ballot and Bonnie won.
Quiet as it's kept, and frankly she isn't in anyway a favorite of mine, Rihanna was the true snub of that night. Lemonade-Album Hello/Work- Split Song and Record is how that should have played out. And also, Easy On Me is very stagnant and dull compared to her other work. And the praise yall gave AIW should have went to Blinding Lights the year it was eligible. Frankly AIW was Blinding Lights with an Upbeat HyperPop gloss. But you probably remember the games the Recording Academy was up to that year...
As a lowkey swifty, I unapologetically said that album should have NOT won and SZA’s album was a masterpiece…tbh Midnights as an entire composition shouldn’t have gotten so much praise like her folklore/evermore albums. Give her music video awards and breaking stream and sales records, but let’s honor THE BEST album for the actual contents and entire work as a complete composition.
honestly at this point they need a best tour category and a achievement award for sales and charts. Like half of those would be different if those exist
Ok here’s my takes on who should’ve won different years. TLC should’ve won AOTY. This was their big comeback album that had 2 number 1 singles. To be fair Santana also had a big comeback album and helped lead the Latin pop crossover Usher or Alicia Keys should have definitely won AOTY over Ray Charles. He is a legend for sure but was way past his prime and only won because it was a legacy award which could’ve been a completely different exclusive Grammy but what do I know The Emancipation of Mimi definitely should’ve won. Mariah had one of the biggest comebacks in pop music and literally dominated 05/06 similar to her daydream album from 10 years prior For the 2010 awards I personally feel like Gaga should’ve won AOTY over Taylor. Beyoncé & The BEP were a close tie but Taylor won because it was the safe choice. Katy Perry should’ve won for teenage Dream like cmon now
you learn the word safe choice and decided to run with it. you need to learn how voting works when you have a widely diverse voting member as opposed to basing it on x shouldve won because the vibe was there
People who didn’t even know SZA’s name came to her through her therapeutic songs. Even today she’s still breaking records for her success on her SOS album. Nobody but Taylor Swift’s fans knew any of the songs on her album and she is not reaching new people like SZA is. SZA definitely had a much more influential album. And Beyoncé…
While Midnights is great, it isn't excellent. When you compare it to her other AOTY wins: Fearless, 1989, and folklore, the spark just isn't there. Fearless is the most successful and awarded country album of all time, 1989 is widely known as "the pop bible" and is arguably Taylor's most concise, thoughtful, and genre shaping album ever. Folklore is a lyrically excellent album, and cemented Taylor as a true songwriting icon. Midnights is just...Taylor doing Taylor. It's good, but there's nothing new or special about it. While the Grammys claim to award excellence, they gave Taylor the award just because of the year she had. And while she had an excellent year, it had almost nothing to do with Midnights. She could've put out any album, and her year of world domination would've been the exact same. This is not what the Grammys claim to award at all. - written by someone who likes taylor swift's music a lot
Sza needs to play in front of 96,000 people, LIVE in concert, 4 nights in a row before you get furious. Szabo is an ARENA artist NOT a SOLDOUT STADIUM SUPERSTAR. EVEN THO,Taylor admires sza very much,even tho she can only sellout arenas. Sorry about your anger. Sometimes reality sucks
@@Han78711 Btch sage it, Tina Turner has performed for 180,000 people in three consecutive nights, that does not mean she deserves album of the year or even a nominatipn Mj has done that with 125,000 people So just save it, your crowd doesn't equal the quality of your work, and mainstream doesn't equal quality at all SOS was better and even swifties admit that midnights is her worst album, so just save it ok🙄🙄
@@Han78711 Oh pls, if u want to go that way, Tina Turner is a rock woman, she doesn't twerk and performs like a professional performer Compare that to what Taylor is doing these days, waving her hands and saying high, she can't perform, and we aren't even forgetting the singing part🙄🙄 I bet she will choke blood singing an Adele song
@Alfred-ut4rn oh please....have u taken your meds yets?? Get over it. Tina and Adele are NOT the most successful musician that will EVER live. If either one of them went on a STADIUM TOUR, they would look very weak.they both would need multiple FEATURES. Both are better singers than Taylor but if you think they can even do it remotely like Taylor you are delusional. Go cry somewhere.
19:41 “at this point she had been extremely outspoken negatively against the Grammys & the recording academy”? Despite spitefully being snubbed from that category every year Beyoncés never spoken ill on the Grammys & the recording, you must fact check before making these videos…
oh you ATE that outro up!!! but seriously it all boils down to racism and misogynoir. kendrick lamar should’ve won album of the year for TPAB, the cultural impact that album has cannot be ignored. it literally has a pulitzer. beyoncé not winning album of the year for her self-titled and onward ofc are big snubs, all bc of what she did to the music industry with her self-titled. and then we have sza, she’s been in the industry since 2010s with her debut EP “see sza run”, and had a very humble rise to stardom. ctrl came in 2017 and completely changed and revived r&b as we know it. and even THAT album didn’t even win a single grammy. she finally released her long-awaited sophomore album and it ofc, becomes a cultural phenomenon, and she even started to have pop crossover success. like you said in the video, that album became therapy for MILLIONS and even became certified platinum in under 2 months. yet ofc, she was snubbed not only bc of misogynoir, but i also feel like it was a big fuck you to black listeners, because the grammys know that sza shouldve won, but picked taylor out of spite. i’m glad sza has her flowers but she deserves so much more than what the industry gives her.
Whether we think Taylor deserved album of the year or not should not be the focus. The focus should be on the wonderful talent we’ve all been blessed with in the last 25 years as it pertains to black women. This is the golden era of black female artists and for none of them not to have won album of the year in these last 25 years is unquestionably unjustified. I don’t expect black artists to boycott the academy but if they did I as an African American would be so proud to stand behind them because bring to music so much love, joy, and art….and this is coming from a Taylor swift fanatic😂
love this breakdown! but slight correction: “Cuz I Love You” (the album) was released within the Grammy year for 2020, it was “Truth Hurts” that has the two-year eligibility hold
Midnights won because of the cultural impact of both the album and Taylor's tour in 2024, which I think makes sense. Also, it's not like it's not a really good album. But overall black artists are consistently dismissed by the Grammys - or by any other award or competition, honestly.
I don't think the album made much of a cultural impact. But the tour absolutely did. On top of the tour, the tour movie, being Time person of the year... The fact that she has been bigger than ever this past year. I get that making sense. It's not entirely about the quality of the record, how critically acclaimed it was, or even how well it did. SZA performed amazingly on the charts, and also had critical acclaim, people were into it, songs went viral... I think you could argue that just based on the albums, SZA outperformed Taylor in a lot of these ways. But then there's the politics. Campaigning for the award. I can imagine Taylor did really well at that. Add the enormous success with the tour and everything else, it does kind of make sense. Where it falls flat for me is the two awards Taylor won being that plus Pop Vocal Album. I think at least that one should have gone to SZA, or even Lana. The Grammy's has always been questionable. In so many areas. I actually feel like Beyonce losing out to Harry Styles is even less justifiable than this. I mean, Beyonce had a huge tour attached, a tour movie. Just like Taylor. But yeah, even the categories they nominate black artists in are off. "Urban" being a category. Then they've changed it. But Igor by Tyler isn't a rap album, even by their metrics. Kendrick losing to Macklemore. Personally, I was just disappointed that Taylor took it home. I would have like SZA to win, but if Lana or anyone else had won I'd have been okay. But Taylor taking Pop Vocal too? I really think that should have gone elsewhere.
@graver you know, I thought "Midnights" hadn't made such an impact until I went to the Eras Tour. The final act is Midnights. I will never, ever forget the instrumentals of "Karma" playing in the background with the confetti falling and the fireworks going around, and probably most of the people that went (millions?) won't either. People were crying, hugging at the end, it felt like a bubble where the world was safe and amazing for girls and women. The tour certainly made the album a cultural influence (as tours are usually designed to do). As much as SZA's album was a bop and a hit, it was nowhere near that kind of impact.
@@faeriegraverdespite all that, SOS performed better single wise, but Midnights was monumental as an album, it never left the top 10 of the bb200 for 60 something weeks, still charting in the top 10, biggest first day Spotify debut EVER for an artist, had consistently higher streams throughout the year, about 430+ days above 10m streams on Spotify, the fastest female album EVER to reach 1b,2b,3B,4b,5b,6b,7b and 8b streams on Spotify, was only 0.5 points of acclaim behind SOS on metacritic, first debut OVER 1M units sold on BB200 (1.564M exactly) in the 2020s since her own reputation in 2017. Midnights was something unthinkable in the streaming era, since Taylor Swift didn’t sell over 1M copies in 2019 with lover everybody thought 1M debuts era was something impossible to replicate
@@NoNamePerson18the album broke many records such as: being the first album since 2017 to sell 1M copies in 1 year, most streamed album in 24 hours in spotify, got the whole top 10 in the billboard hot 100 (first time this EVER happened, not even Michael Jackson or The Beatles did this) if thats not impact and legacy enough for a album of the year win at the grammy's, no one else will ever win AOTY
I am so over the mediocrity of Taylor swift. Everything she puts out is awarded despite its quality, when artists as good and usually better don't even get nominated. At this point I don't even want black artists to perform or submit their work to the academy. The grammy uses black women in the marketing for ratings but ultimately disrespects them..
Melanie Martinez lost to t.s in the vmas for a video with not even mediocre video effects the video that lost from Melanie was VOID Taylor swift won with “antihero”
That's not true. Taylor won nothing for RED, reputation, Lover and evermore. So that's 5 albums in the last 10 years that won nothing. The truth is that Midnights and her tour was huge, she had a way bigger year than other nominees. Also, Midnights is critticly acclaimed and it was predicted to win. Yeah, SZA would be a deserving winner but Taylor is too and she's definetly not mediocre
Honestly Fearless was two of the four wins Taylor deserved, I am Sasha Fierce is a half masterpiece, most of the songs didn’t click for me, nothing sonically and lyrically, but the ones that do smash so hard it’s easily to oversee is not a weak album. Fearless on the other hand is consistent and great built body of work, it has some skips but not as much as IASF
Of Taylor’s wins, Fearless is NOT one that can be contested. If you look back on that time, Fearless spent an entire year in the top 10 and 11 weeks at #1. And 18 months inside the top 20. It outsold IASF. And it is diamond. IASF is not, that tells you the impact that record had. It was end of year #1. It maintained charting in the Billboard 200 and end of year charts every year and still charts end of year in the top 50 today. IASF was end of year #2, second to Fearless. It was end of decade #178 to Taylor’s #56, and Fearless was end of last decade #98 when IASF did not make the chart, and all time female Billboard album IASF was only #68 compared to Fearless which is #2. So, you cannot tell me that Fearless was undeserving, it outperformed, had lasting impact for the past 15 years is still charting, AND had more impact than IASF. Fearless was undeniable AOTY, there is no question, If you look at the experts and music critics that go back and analyze how the past choices have gone and what they think now… ALL say Fearless won and still say it should have won. Not because of stupid Kanye West, but because Fearless could not be stopped. There was a reason Fearless was winning all the awards, because it is one of the best country albums of all tine. It is to this day, the most awards country album in history.
"I Am Sasha Fierce" & "Lemonade" should had won Album Of The Year. Especially "Lemonade" because Adele's "25" was a weak album. I swear if Kanye would had kept his happy ass down on his seat, not only Taylor Swift wouldn't had been a mega superstar but her career would had peak after "Speak Now" & then would had fade away like Carly Rae Jepsen, Meghan Trainor, Avri Lavigne, Ciara, Macklemore & others I can't recall now. i also think The Grammys punished Beyonce because Kanye mentioned her during his rant at The VMAs.
Beyonce will almost certainly never win album of the year. Not because of her skin color or gender. But because she’s taken credit for songs she did not write. She’s not respected by many musicians. Period
I can't believe u straight-up typed that 25 was a "weak album" 💀💀.... That album literally has Hello,Love in the dark,When we were young,All I ask,Send my love n River Lea.....it's not by chance that it outsold Lemonade by a great distance,u guys need to listen to the albums n stop capping
@@jtgoat9810 U can say u didn't listen to the album....it's literally nothing like 21....n if it was as weak as u say,then Lemonade was str8 up terrible bcz ain't no way a 'weak' album would outsell a legendary album by the margin than 25 had on Lemonade
she’s literally afro-latina. with 2 black parents, just bc she’s lightskin and decides to wear straight hair (even tho she naturally has an afro) doesn’t negate that fact
@@josemiguelsilva8995nothing about this is misogynistic whether you like it or not taylor swift is a white woman that has benefited from white privilege her entire career and her aoty win for 1989 over tpab is a prime example of that
@@blondedfc if white privileged is the only thing u know how to shout that already tells me u have cero brain, Taylor impacted the whole word with one album, not because she’s white but because she’s a hard working talented woman with good work ethic’s and a loyal fan base,sza is an amazing artist but she can’t break the USA/enlgish speakers only barrier, instead of Making videos and comments about why dis woman doesn’t deserve success or calling her mediocre u should go support you favs, maybe if u buy their shit instead of spending time commenting about Taylor and tearing women down, your faves might get a nice “second place “ medal when she bags next years AOTY with TPS
@@blondedfc Im still mad over that and MACKLEMORE won over GKMC which is just infuriating cuz who tf is bumping Macklemore in 2024? But Kendrick still trending.
No it wasn't, szas album was an absolute bore, so was midnights. Neither deserved any award, let alone aoy. Both albums in question had less than 5 good songs
Ithink taylor won, only because of her successful year in music not because of her race. That being said, as a swiftie I'd be okay with whoever won AOTY this time tbh. I LOVED guts, i enjoyed miley's new albums in ways that i never did before, SZA's SOS was a delectable delicacy that i savored for days on end, and midnights...honestly I don't know how to quantify this one. As a swiftie midnights as an album was more than just midnights, it was also all the eras all at once, hence the aptly named eras tour. But as an album alone, midnights could've been better. My favorite track on this album wasn't even on the album- that all being said. All the women nominated this year totally deserved the nomination, but it wouldve been iconic if SZA won. and the grammy's chose the vanilla option instead.
szas album was an absolute bore, so was midnights. Neither deserved any award, let alone AOY. Both albums in question had less than 5 good songs. Both Taylor and Sza are beyond OVERRATED
@@LimeSlimeee The only good songs on that overrated SOS album was kill bill, seekndestroy, shirt, and nobody gets me. The rest sza could have kept in the vault.
Becks win is the most difficult to rationalize? His album morning phase is a great album. Music shouldnt be about sales or glitter and glamour, it should be about music. That is why you can better watch jools hollands shows than the grammies. I acknowledge that the album of beyonce was a big deal that year at the time but becks win is not undeservedly.
Not difficult to dispute at all. Becks album was a total bore, not only did it sound outdated from the 80s but it vocally was one note. How can an artist without a distinctive voice win over an artist with a one of a kind talent. There are 10,000 Becks, but only 1 Beyoncé.
Why didn't Evermore win over John's album if Taylor was the favorite? It outsold in every way possible. Let's not get ahead of ourselves and let the music speak for itself.
i gotta agree about the fanbase. im convinced the hate taylor swift gets is purely thanks to her crazy fans. (i'm a good one trust me lol)@@ClickBate69
I enjoyed this video but discussing the Academy as if it's a single unified entity with a common agenda is misleading. Of course there's bias since it's all subjective but over 12,000 independent professionals vote for AOTY. Since it's all anonymous, no one has an incentive to vote for one over the other out of fear of retaliation or to vote for the "safe" option.
Those 12,000 people just so happen to be a majority white and male (over 60%). That’s an enormous factor that can’t be overlooked here when talking about a category that’s supposed to encompass ALL genres equally, but historically that is clearly not true.
@@Pinkittydrinkitty Isn't that the race demography in the USA? In fact, I believe its 75% white. I don't understand why people always say this like its a bad thing. Of course, the academy ratios will reflect the demography.
Taylor creates her own songs from scratch. She plays multiple instruments and comes up with melodies on the piano which she later puts lyrics too. That’s not just songwriting , it’s artistry.,
6:59 - Alicia, Mariah, Doja, Rihanna, Beyoncé, Jhené, H.E.R, Cardi B and Britney Howard are MIXED, NOT black. A black person has TWO FULLY BLACK parents.
I think we’re forgetting midnights occupied the ENTIRE TOP 10 for female and male. The first to do this in HISTORY. And had enough to do this by streams alone. Idk about you but that sounds like a pretty big cultural impact to me! Just one of many records the album broke
@@JusteneBraynard incorrect. Selling albums might not be impressive but blocking out the ENTIRE top 10 of the Hot 100 which no one has done in history IS IMPRESSIVE. she made history with the album so it should reflect on award shows.Your bias is saying hi! 👋
@@shinyy160 having a 300m+ fanbase mobilize to stream your album 24/7 on mute on every device in a household to occupy the most spots on Billboard does Not a good album make..
@@Pinkittydrinkitty actually being able to make 300+ mil people stream your album IS impressive yall are taking her accomplishments and discrediting everything. Getting fans is how people be successful
The elephant in the room that never gets brought up is "black" artist on average make more divisive music. Rather it's overtly se×ually, politically/religiously charged, or etc. Macklamore, billie eylish, taylor or whoever make relatively safe music that doesn't even push any boundaries...not even sonically.
I think history is just gonna repeat itself. With Lana, Beyonce, Kacey, and Taylor all releasing albums, 2 of which are country. The only way for Beyonce to win, is for Taylor to not win. And with all the hype surrounding all of those albums I just do not have faith that the academy will give Beyonce her flowers…
14 wins is still absurd, love. Especially when black women don’t get shit at the Grammys. I’m saying this as a swiftie, Taylor makes hits but the Grammys is supposed to award for artistic excellence. You cannot argue that something like Midnights is as artistically excellent as SOS when SOS deals with complex human emotions, while Midnights is romance and revenge songs.
@@WiglahWoo please. Don't tell me folkore and evermore were written for hits, its folk music! and really, give it a rest, when was the last time Taylor won for a hit? 2012, over 12 year ago. So nice try. And Midnights tells of a lot of things that obviously you do not understand. And revenge songs? Couldn't name one from that album, could you? I doubt it. Romance? really? seems to me that you don't understand the album at all. Sos and complex issues like killing their ex, now that sounds like a revenge song.
Stan culture is making people deny racism, and that’s sad. Even as a Swiftie there’s no way you think Taylor could get where she is if she was a black woman, maybe as a black man but not with the double whammy. Swifties are so quick to recognize sexism but become completely blind to racism AND the sexism black women face, if Taylor’s gender makes it harder for her imagine what adding being black would do. White people are 70% of America black people are 12% that’s nearly 7 to 1 that alone gives a bigger audience and potential for revenue, especially when your brand is “relatability”. Not to mention the economic disparity between black and white audiences, that’s how Taylor Swift can sell infinite copies of her albums to break records, because her audience is larger and has more money. So for that to be the foundation of why she is praised but that rests on her identity as a white person then there’s no way to disconnect the two. It’s not that she doesn’t have merit or talents it’s that they are received through her sociopolitical identity and that can never be separated, just as black women can never know to what degree their hardships are due to their sociopolitical identity even though we know it has to play some part, especially economic. Also, she has one most of her Grammys in the big categories. Not all Grammys are equal in the eyes of the industry. AOTY is THEE most coveted and she is tied with Stevie goddamn Wonder. 1 AOTY is worth like 5 sub category wins. So 14 most of which are in the top categories is like winning 50 small ones. Hence why there’s endless discourse on this category but no other category.
Tbh, I see TS like McDonald's: quick to make, easy to consume, and high-selling around the world. But McDonald's isn't gourmet food, and if people start trying to pass it off as such, it would be annoying. I don't really think she's as strong a writer as people claim. When I ask fans what the deeper message is in her lyrics, I usually walk away thinking "it's just a sad song with nothing to say." A song does not have to have strong lyrics for me to appreciate it; as a band and choral kid I appreciate song structure just as much. But if you tell me lyrics are your strong point and you don't have anything to say then it just falls flat. Purple prose tends to impress people but when you pull back the pretty words, what have you actually communicated to me? I think the standards for lyrics all around need to be stronger. What is the message, what is the theme? If you're a lyricist, SAY SOMETHING!
I do not think Beyonce's self-titled, lemonade and Renessance album have popularity. Those albums may have pleased music critic but not general public. Her album sales were significantly dropped since 4 album. Other than that, I agreed with your opinions.
I would disagree . Self titled went number one with no promotion . Lemonade is a whole different story. Beyoncé was announced to be gest performer at 2016 Superbowl headline by Coldplay . Day before before she released Formation , her most bold and politically expressive song . On Superbowl day Bruno Mars did introduced Beyoncé during his part of the show , many people were expecting to hear Hymn for the weekend , but no she went with brand new singel . She nailed this performance so hard that the next day everybody was talking about her . The first Superbowl AD was , surprise surprise Lemonade album tour tickets on sale , to an album that wasnt even out . Lemonade debuted at number 1 on Billboard 200 and Formation tour was ranked at 2 on Pollstar's 2016 Year End Tour chart . She performed this album everywhere , BET awards surprise with Kendrick Lamar , VMA , Grammys and even Country Music Association Awards . Than she got pregnant and in 2018 graciously made the most watched and most searched in history of the Google live performance at Coachella , or simply Beychella . She performed many of her songs from project after 4 that crowd of 125.000 seemed to know very well . About Renaissance , it also debuted at 1 on Billboard , third biggest album debut of the year 2022 overall . Renaissance tour is the highest grossing tour by any artist of colure and the film toped US box office charts . She was also mentioned in Greatest Pop Stars by Billboard t number 3 , top 25 best performance of 2023 by Vanity Fair , My house was 3 best song of the year according to Times and Financial times said she was one of 25 Most Influential Woman of 2023 . I hope that covers popularity segment .
@@ra01sztI just haved looked up her album sales on RIAA and found out self-titled album was quite successful. But as a old fan of Beyonce, I have been disappointed about that there are no popular songs (either addictive hook or Karaoke friendly). I guess some of Grammy members agree with me. She used to be a pop star not a singer for music critic.
Great video essay, but I think you could have explained more about the 3 black women who Have won album of the year. All 3 women won for different genres and you only gloss over that. Great analysis, but you’re missing important context for me
Personally,I've never gotten the outrage behind Beyoncé's aoty losses,people judge Beyoncé the image,but her albums weren't better than the winners,bar Beck's....but SOS on the other hand was way clear of Midnights,it even showed up with commercial success,they probably also gave it to Taylor bcz of the year she had as an artist,but that was 100% the wrong one
@@NoNamePerson18folklore was the most sold AND most critically acclaimed album of the nominees. If anything, Taylor Swift deserved AOTY for folklore the most.
@@Fucoriifolklore for sure, there was no other contender. Maybe FN, but really, it was a no brainer. Wasn’t even a contest IMO. Folklore was the only winner in that field.
Ikr Lana was a huge inspiration to several Grammy darlings including Lorde and Billie Ellish yet they reward those who she inspired but snub her, it’s weird.
15:30 I love Cardi but it’s not because you identify as something that you are it. She’s a mixed woman whether she identifies as a black woman or a unicorn.
I've there are artists that should feel let down by the Grammy's it's artists within rock, hip-hop, metal, alternative rock, roots and country. And all artists in general that made critically acclaimed music and often are not the industry's darlings (a.k.a. moneymakers). And what about all the non American and British artists that made brilliant music? Don't continental Europeans, Africans, West and Eastern Asians, Australians and Latin Americans make great music? Sure it would be great to see a black woman win a "major" Grammy. But please look at the figures, not just sales or "cultural impact". Because at this point having a black woman winning a major Grammy just seems to be a goal as such. Looking at the figures (review ratings, subjective but as a measurement for quality the most objective) half of the nominees wouldn't even get nominated (Adele for 30). Others wouldn't win (Beyoncé for Renaissance). Nominees who lost could win (Kendrick Lamar for Mr. Morale..). With artists that should have nominated there's hip-hop, rock, alternative and metal, next to pop and RnB. And in the end no one should feel any entitlement to win a Grammy. Because in the end musical taste is subjective.
SZA had the AOTA. Taylor Swift had THE YEAR...as in BEST YEAR EVER. Period. End of sentence. Why shouldn't the music industry's biggest night and arguably its pinnacle acknowledge that?
I just love bias. You say and state every record sos has broken when midnights has won FAR more in a harder category to break records. You say sos helped so many people with things with a happy undertone and didn't even think about Taylor or lana or John albums helping anyone even the same people. You're trying to crtoque the recording academy by doing the exact same thing they are doing. Music is subjective.
Mention economic impact for Taylor winning aoty but can’t accept that Harry’s haus win inspite of renaissance having more sales😂 Aoty is not about album sales, it’s making art. Disregarding sales, Were can you see album brilliance? Album w/ 5 collaborators or album with 50 collaborators? Cry more for Lana than Sza coz Lana’s album is also great and cohesive. I dare you all to remove Sza’s voice in her songs and intrumentals are as boring as sh!t. Compare it to Lana’s/ Taylor’s track. R&B tends to have poor instrumentation coz they heavily rely on the singer’s voice. Have you seen R&B win aoty? Lauren Hills Aoty is the only R&B album I have heard with good instrumentation. Check it out & compare to other
as much as I think sza should have won this, it has nothing to do with race. Beyonce has the most grammy awards, proving enough. SZA had the most nominations and she won more grammys then taylor swift this year. Sometimes things will be unfair but it isnt about race.
Nothing to do with race? So that means No black women have deserved Album of the year since 1999? Just all a huge coincidence that No black women at ALL have won in the past 25 years, when there are more black women prevalent in music than ever before? Not even remotely about race? Are you sure?
@@Pinkittydrinkitty Yall are diminishing the chance for black people to shine by seperating us into categories. Celebrate the upliftment of black women, yes of course, but do so aswell for the entire community. In general black men and black women haven't won that much from album of the years. Keep in mind when white people were winning AOTY every year were during the more racist times. Black women have come very close to winning album of the year, but there was many times a contender that shouldve just won. For example when doja cat was nominated for planet her, iff SOUR by olivia rodrigo wasn't nominated she would have won. But cmon, its SOUR. And by the way, black women being more famous in music doesnt mean they deserve the award. SOS deserved it for sure but other times when black women didnt win it was because another album was just better. Its just gonna happen, sometimes not every race and gender are gonna be 50/50. Its based on talent and the popularity of the album, a main reason why black women and men havent won it alot because sometimes since fanbases are so large, they would riot if freaking miley cyrus didnt win some award because of how huge she is.
@@NK-fb6di thats because either they weren't deserving enough to win, or the academy just had terrible taste. You guys cant just be satisfied? Its not about the category its about the grammy. She has the most out of anyone, letting black women shine yet its not enough for you guys. Lmao
idk how and why did taytay gain the recognition she did apart from her songwriting skills that really just seem to be poetry...i would've actually respected her way more if she was a poet rather than a "singer"...she announces a new album and will win album of the year next year and the cycle will go on...she makes some sorta movie or something which won an award...lol for what??? her singing isn't great she doesn't even have a unique tone...and ik that i'm not wrong coz my best friend who is a die hard swiftie actually agreed with me...other swifties who get defensive and offended and retaliate are just biased and those are the kind who would "go gaga" over everything their idol does even if it's mediocre lol
to be fair having mediocre vocal doesn't mean one can't make a good music. Rappers don't have amazing vocals but manage to make meaningful songs ( utilise songwriting skills) that resonates with public audience. I do agree that sza should've won , for me personally, so that I can get a better record from Taylor lol. She didn't win for RED, then she released 1989, her best selling record to date. Then she didn't win any grammys for 3 years, then she released folklore and evermore, which all are my favourite album. Now because she got awarded for midnights, I'm a bit scared for her next release lol. IMO midnights is a great album but too many fillers. 14 out of 23 songs are great should've scrapped those filler songs , it would be a solid album.
The Eras movie was nominated for a Golden Globe but she didn’t win. She’s a songwriter who sings, it’s not about vocals with Taylor, it’s about the storytelling. While I think SZA should have won AOTY, Taylor’s success can’t be labeled mediocre. She sells out every stadium she performs in, and not just this tour. It’s with previous tours, too. You also have to consider that AOTY isn’t just about sales and impact, it’s about songwriting. It’s a very respected win because it says you’re an artist and don’t use ghostwriters or 10-15 writers 😅
Your defence is very mediocre and bias in it self, Taylor won her recognition based on beautifully written songs, amazing productions, and a ton of hard work,if ur only way to fight racism is with misogyny and tearing down women because ur butt hurt for your faves maybe u should go listen but and stream their music instead of partaking in conversations that fly over ur little head, I’m sure no black woman would endorse misogyny as a way of “defending” them, they’re are all amazing and rich woman who doesn’t care about ur sad opinions
@@Porcelynnn hmm when you put it that way, i agree maybe she did deserve to win this time....but what i will never understand is all the worldwide hype she's been getting like,,,, is she really thaaaaaaaatttt good??? i don't think so....i don't think so...don't get me wrong, the only full album ive heard of hers was lover during lockdown and it has some of my fav tunes,,,,,so this is not coming from a total hater...im just not understanding her fame,,, like she even has a university degree course in her honour or something like that?? like 😭?
Sorry but SOS deservd it Taylor Swift is a horrible person and overrated and she is using other artists for her own good making money of other songs like Deja vu from Olivia Rodrigo it doesn’t even sound the same which is funny but some Swifties always find reasons to bring other artists down but before hating they should worry about Taylor being a fake as artist
The fact you called Taylor swift "horrible person" and also say "swiftie always find reason to bring other artists down" is funny to me hahahahaha, also Olivia give credits to Taylor on deja Vu, because oliva said that the bridge is inspired from cruel summer. Not Taylor's fault that Olivia gave her writing credit
the reason sza lost is her album is just not that good lmao, if it wasnt for taylor then lana shouldve won if not then boygenius if not the olivia... sza is not even on the upper half of that list
Exactly. 😂 szas album was an absolute bore, so was midnights. Neither deserved any award, let alone AOY. Both albums in question had less than 5 good songs. Both Taylor and Sza are beyond OVERRATED
I have never once willingly turned on a Taylor swift song, and have only non consensually enjoyed her music. SZA is the first artist I have heard on the radio since I was a child maybe that I felt the need to find the song I heard.
Hey I wanna say great video but I think you glossing over that midnights was a clear front runner from non-Grammy critics and acting like it’s not a self reflective/ emotionally complex album kinda makes your whole argument fall flat even tho I agree with everything else you said. I think it would have been interesting to show that the two albums are emotionally similar but then explain why you think SOS is more culturally impactful. Another thing I feel should be talked about more is the amount of extremely mediocre albums (typical mainstream/changing room type songs) that get nominated yet every album nominated from a black female artist has to have amazing vocals, songwriting, visuals, themes and a visible cultural impact :/ Hopefully none of this sounds patronising 🫠
as much as it is what it is, midnights did NOT have the same impact as SOS FACT. Taylor Swift be putting out albums every other year, whereas Sza has spent the last 5/6 years perfecting this album into what is a much more diverse album in terms of genre and longitivity. At the end of the day music is subjective and those who nominated taylor to win snabbed it from sza 😐 Let me ask you this: do you think that you will be hearing any songs from midnights in 20 years time? And now ask yourself the same for SOS. It just spoke more volume and it’s clear it was more appealing to the people because i certainly have not heard a single song but anti hero from midnights on the radio…
@@princeoceanI totally agree. I feel like Midnights was not significant in any way. It was the tour, the tour film, the Time person of the year, and all the press. Also behind the scenes politics. Artists have to campaign for their awards. Taylor would be good at that. Personally I wish Midnights had not one Pop Vocal, too. I think that should have gone to SZA at least. Even Lana. But I don't think Midnights should have got AOTY either. Beyonce losing to Harry Styles is even more confusing to me. Just doesn't make sense.
@@faeriegraver don’t even talk to me about beyoncé and harry styles, it infuriates me. so clear what their motives are, the fact a black woman has not won album of the year since lauryn hill astonishes me to this day
@@princeocean it's so transparent. If we're going to say, Taylor had this huge tour, a tour movie... She was massive this year, so she should've won. Well... All that applies to Renaissance. But on top of that Renaissance had a much bigger cultural impact. It was more critically acclaimed. It had huge singles. I was vexed, when Harry won, he actually said in his speech "people like me don't win awards like this" and I ended up trying to explain to his fans in the comments on RU-vid that he is from a good background. They were trying to argue that he came from nothing. His parents have good jobs. He came from a good area. I'm English... He wasn't poor. His career started when he was a young teenager, too. That comment got on my nerves. Then Jay Z makes that speech and... Taylor wins. It's a farce. I can't say "oh it's not important" because I was so happy that Victoria Monet took home some deserved awards. The history of the Grammy's is grim. The past two years have been the turd on the shite sundae.
szas album was an absolute bore, so was midnights. Neither deserved any award, let alone AOY. Both albums in question had less than 5 good songs. Both Taylor and Sza are beyond OVERRATED ❤
@@LimeSlimeee The only good songs on that overrated SOS album was kill bill, seekndestroy, shirt, and nobody gets me. The rest sza could have kept in the vault.
@@LimeSlimeee The song snooze, for instance, is 🗑. That song's success embodies how overrated the album is. It's over played, mediocrity and I'm tired of hearing it when I walk into certain restaurants. 😆
We've got to stop seeking validation from these conglomerates that do not value or honor Black talent. Honestly, it's a compliment. Taylor Swift... please. She's the modern day Brittany spears.. just being white is enough. No talent required!
First-Britney Is Queen.Second- Taylor & Britney Are Nothing Alike.Third-White Music Doesn't Mean Bad Music.Fourth-When It Comes To Artistry,Most People Are Just Performers,While Taylor Is Also An Artist & That's What The Grammy's Are About.Fifth-Just Because Someone Is Ultra-Famous Doesn't Mean She Is Bad.Sixth-Beyonce's Black & She's Won Like The Most Grammy's Ever & She Doesn't Deserve Half Of Them Change My Mind.Seventh-Black Music Doesn't Necessarily Mean Good Music.Eighth-Taylor Isn't As Privileged At The Grammy's As You Think,She Has Like 50 Nominations & 14 Wins.
I dont care about black artist getting snub, idc about genre bias idc about all these hater talk, idc about all the taylor haters. Grammys and every award show will never please everyone and is controled by a small group of indiviuals that will not agree with the public. All this is subjective, opionated, and anyone can look for evidence to fit their argument. The fact is midnights was a 7/10 at best if im being generous. Its one of Taylor's weakest album and was just a cash grab to push her tour. sos was a solid 8 or 9/10. Sza deserved the win. It had better hits and a better overall album. Sos makes midnight look like trash, not only did sos deserve album of the year it should of won its 2 other lost category as well. I do wanna say its not worth slandering taylor like certain people are doing, she didn't choose to win, yall don't need to attack her personally.
Uhhhhhhh not being funny bt who is SZA compared to T.S a not being funny she’s internationally known an sza a dope artist don’t get me wrong…bt nahhhh stop playing big bank takes lil bank she has a following like a cult …not just fans
Taylor might’ve written her songs on midnights but sos is still a better album, writing ur own music doesn’t make it better than another artist’s songs
@@maximovelazquez6884 I lovesza,so does Taylor and probably her swifties too BUT, winning album of the year that OTHER people wrote is very very VERY hard to digest.Sorry.
@javitheswiftie QUIT LYING.she had MANY cowriters and producers!! She is most certainly NOT ANYWHERE NEARthe worlds most financially successful musician, Taylor swift. Sorry for you,racist. Now Take your medicine and go cry somewhere.
@@javitheswiftie Quit lying.sos had MANY writers and producers. If you think she is on Taylor Swifts level, you most certainly are loco.taylor is the most financially successful musician that has ever lived for a reason.take your meds and go cry somewhere.
Beyonce is the most awarded woman in the history of the Grammys but they are "biased" against black women, suuuuure (her dad being on the Grammys committee has definitively played no role in that, right?). And i find it funny how people are conveniently forgetting that Taylor Swift has never won Song of the Year or Record of the Year, especially when she's known as a songwriter. If the Grammys are so biased toward white women, why hasn't she won it yet if she's supposedly a "Grammy darling"? Can anyone give me a serious answer to that?
It’s all in smaller categories that carry way less prestige. Honestly I think they gave her so many so that if she ever complained about being boxed out of the top categories someone like you would throw it in her face. And Beyoncé aside explain why nonbinary black woman had won in 25 years? And only 3 ever think if the countless white women that have won but no black women in the 21st century that’s nuts! Not even one?
The amount of entitlement we've seen in the reaction to black women not being given awards for free is absolutely hilarious. Why would such a small portion of the population be winning the biggest award that often anyway? Everyone gets snubbed at award shows. The albums aren't more deserving of awards just because a black woman made them. Don't be cringe.
Let me say this: None puts effort and great work into albums and in music like Taylor Alison swift She deserves every single award she has been given and let’s acknowledge that her music created cultural impact because cultural impact is not exclusive for black artists she has also advocated for various issues and acknowledged stuff through her music and also if we’ll compare she’s the songwriter of our generation her songs and albums that are “entirely” written by her are breaking records more than anybody unlike other artists who are nominated and dont write their own songs or write it among “8” other people ok she I hope everyone understands. (SIDE NOT:she should have won soty for atw10min🙂)
