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Why Tayshia's Season Was GOOD and Clare's BAD - Grading Season 16 of The Bachelorette 

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The Bachelorette Season 16 is done and with it came highs and lows. Specifically the well loved Tayshia and lesser loved Clare. So why was Tayshia's season good but Clare's bad? Join me for another season review and grading of Tayshia's season of The Bachelorette... and why it was good vs. why Clare's was bad.
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@BachelorFantake
@BachelorFantake 3 года назад
How could a season with such a beautiful love story ever do badly? Wishing Ed and Chris Harrison all the happiness in the world!
@ceptember.
@ceptember. 3 года назад
So weird how you're so against male nudity. Most of the guys obvi loved it and so do us female viewers.
@FantaPopRockz
@FantaPopRockz 3 года назад
That scene was amazing!
@katy4523
@katy4523 3 года назад
I have no choice but the stan BN new couple: Ed and Chris 😍😍😍 haha
@ceptember.
@ceptember. 3 года назад
@@katy4523 i love your icon pic :P
@katy4523
@katy4523 3 года назад
@@ceptember. thank you! They are definitely the best chickens lol
@meganp6810
@meganp6810 3 года назад
It comes down to this: Tayshia cares about people. Clare cares about Clare.
@janspell2516
@janspell2516 3 года назад
Tayshia is a smart woman & Clare seems to be an air head... A beautiful air head.
@CodyRae11
@CodyRae11 3 года назад
Fact.
@Black_Rose1234
@Black_Rose1234 3 года назад
I saw a post on Instagram where one of the crew members was saying how great Zac is, that he would leave thank you notes for the staff etc. I think Zac and Tayshia are both great people separately and together. I wish them all the best.
@suzykendallosborne
@suzykendallosborne 3 года назад
@@Black_Rose1234 awwwww! That’s so sweet 🥰
@debbiesuesteele9639
@debbiesuesteele9639 3 года назад
That is the elusive truth I was trying to figure out. Plus, Tayshia has charisma and Clare is inherently unlikable. A channel called Better Bachelor has a segment on her. Not a good thing. I don't like Dale, I think he's an opportunistic douche pickle but I think he dodged a bullet.
@katichurchill7100
@katichurchill7100 3 года назад
in my opinion, Clare was trying too hard to be “that” bachelorette who demands respect. she loved the praise she got after telling JP off, so she kept trying to recreate it during her whole season. it just seemed way over the top. like she sent a guy home for barely knowing who she is. that’s not “having respect” it’s being entitled. i just didn’t like her season one bit, and the majority of why is cuz she was just trying too hard to be a bachelorette that people would respect & love. i’m happy for her and Dale though
@stellashepherd844
@stellashepherd844 3 года назад
Great analysis. I was trying to put my finger on it but you nailed it.
@taylorelisa1452
@taylorelisa1452 3 года назад
i wholeheartedly agree but when the guy said that when he saw she was the bachelorette he knew he had to but he didnt know anything about her. i understand why that threw her off but it was a total excuse to get rid of one more guy that stood in the way of her and dale. she was too dramatic four episodes in and didn’t give any of the guys a chance bc dale was always on the forefront of her thoughts.
@katichurchill7100
@katichurchill7100 3 года назад
taylor elisa yeah, i understand her reasoning behind it, but at the same time he was trying to get to know her and she kicked him out, it just didn’t sit right with me. but in the end, it was always gonna be Dale no matter what. i’m just disappointed that they made her season out to be all about “respect” but it really wasn’t. she just tried too hard and it was obvious
@taylorelisa1452
@taylorelisa1452 3 года назад
@@katichurchill7100 i agree 100%. she would’ve said or done anything to clear the bench so dale was the only one left. she would’ve saved everyone so much time if she had just been honest. she should’ve tried to get to know him instead of sending him home for not knowing her whole life story. she made it seem like he should’ve known when in reality the whole point is to get to know everyone and she didn’t give him a chance.
@katichurchill7100
@katichurchill7100 3 года назад
taylor elisa agree!
@juliadoolittle1031
@juliadoolittle1031 3 года назад
Tayshia seems like a dream lead. She's receptive, positive, there for true love, and clearly willing to play ball a bit with the storylines and drama without sacrificing her integrity or throwing anyone too much under the bus or tolerating toxicity. The best drama on these shows is the kind that everyone can laugh about later (aka "smedium shirt" or Bennet being a Harvard D Bag) as opposed to the creepy Luke Ps or Chad's with dangerous psychologies.
@isabelm8848
@isabelm8848 3 года назад
CHAD
@amandalidey329
@amandalidey329 2 года назад
I always loved her. Her season had the less drama & she seemed to take it the most serious than any of the other Bachelorettes. She was actually rated #1 Bachelorette for that as well. Some of them, like Peter's season lol was a hotmess & Claire's. Omg. Her season. No comment. Lol.
@chloegoulden5094
@chloegoulden5094 3 года назад
I also think that the age of the men made a big difference. A lot of these men had previous relationships that were serious and ended, making them take this process more seriously. I didn’t get the vibe that any of them wanted this for IG fame, I felt like they all were there to form and explore a relationship ship.
@Jobother
@Jobother 3 года назад
And it's a shame the producers didnt learn that lesson for the casting of Matt's upcoming season... Those girls look my age and I'm in no way ready for marriage with the person I've been dating for a few years let alone someone i just met on a dating show
@bear3154
@bear3154 3 года назад
Yes! Why are they going back to 21 year old socialites for Matt James season? These men were ready for marriage and it made it SO much better. I’m pretty sure it’s gonna be just like Peter’s season 🤢🤮
@Jobother
@Jobother 3 года назад
@@bear3154 yeah I'm definitely getting a bad feeling about this season.
@a.sydney5036
@a.sydney5036 3 года назад
Whaaat? What 26 year old wants to date a 40 year oldddd!??? A lot of the younger guys were there for fame.
@a.sydney5036
@a.sydney5036 3 года назад
@@bear3154 well Matt is like what...28? Or somewhere in that region. So the cast will mostly be made up of girls in their early 20s.
@gillian32
@gillian32 3 года назад
I'm pretty sure JoJo had more screen time this season than Clare.
@lucbordage7291
@lucbordage7291 3 года назад
Why not? JoJo is awesome. She was the best part of that season (and also a DeAnna appearance, terrific). Two of the best bachelorettes ever.
@mirandabrown5272
@mirandabrown5272 3 года назад
I hope the Bachelor Franchise sees the positive response from Tayshia’s season and takes notes. Based on the previews, Matt’s girls look very dramatic and that scares me. I enjoyed a “fairly” drama free season from these guys. What a great group of men.
@_JS__
@_JS__ 3 года назад
Totally agree with you. I loved that there was almost no drama on Tayshia's season, so I'm really worried about Matt's. His looks like it will be full of drama.
@annaisntcool
@annaisntcool 3 года назад
agreed! i prefer bachelorette over bachelor because it always feels (especially peter’s season) like they try to manufacture 10x more catty drama between the contestants on the bachelor. the drama between contestants on the bachelorette is usually more silly and not overplayed.
@thumperkc
@thumperkc 3 года назад
Matt’s season is going to be a Peter season #2. Lol
@paulojrneto
@paulojrneto 3 года назад
If Matt's season has at least one romance storyline worth investing in as a viewer (even if only the duration of the show), it will already be an improvement from Peter's season.
@kiarat5397
@kiarat5397 3 года назад
I’m glad someone else thinks that too! Every time I see a new preview I’m like oh no😂😂
@lowusua2416
@lowusua2416 3 года назад
There are so many things- the age of the lead and contestants, the fact that the next Bachelor had already been announced so the men weren't vying for the role, the lack of exotic dates which led to more authentic dates which included more actual conversation and thus depth of relationship, and absolutely less petty drama and a true camaraderie and respect between the men are a few. But truly Tayshia deserves a ton of credit. She stepped into an odd situation and brought a maturity but also fun and engaging energy that made you actually root for her. She also was perceptive and in control of the process but seems to have done enough work to understand how to own a space while still leaning into her feminine energy. She was the lead and handled the situation so well while still leaning back, listening and allowing the men to decide whether they had feelings for her and to pursue her even in the context of this setting. Clare CHASING Dale after 2 seconds was just not entertaining at all to me.
@cartulizecharles4053
@cartulizecharles4053 3 года назад
You LITERALLY took the words out of my mouth I couldn’t have said it better.
@maddiericcinto
@maddiericcinto 3 года назад
oh my gosh you are so right, i feel like all of the fairy tale type dates make it seem like this is what the actual relationship is like, and all of the things happening are distracting them from the fact they barely know each other/have no connection. and i feel like that rly made it more clear who would actually be a good match for the lead
@a.sydney5036
@a.sydney5036 3 года назад
Clare was set up to lose. You can’t have 26 year old dudes with a 40 year old bachelorette. Producers didn’t care about helping Clare find a husband. That wasn’t a goal.
@lowusua2416
@lowusua2416 3 года назад
@@a.sydney5036 Absolutely to a certain extent. But there were a number of men over 30. She was just so laser focused literally from moment 1 on Dale that none of them had a chance. We didn't even get to see how great so many of them were until Tayshia arrived because they were secondary to her focus on Dale- like extras in her romantic film. That's okay. It was her journey and she was never going to end up with 26 year old Noah but men like Riley, Demar, Zac, and Joe and even Kenny who Zac has said is a great guy and someone he's really close with, were great guys as well.
@a.sydney5036
@a.sydney5036 3 года назад
@@lowusua2416 first of all “extras on a romantic movie” = 🤣. Secondly hmmmm, I don’t get this “omg, these guys are so great” narrative. We honestly hardly know these men. This is the first time I’ve watched every single episode of the bachelorette, and I don’t get how these guys are being hyped up. It’s so bizarre. Lastly. Even 30/31/32 is too young for an almost 40 year old...if we are being honest with ourselves about a younger guy dating an older woman. Who was in her actual age range...the boy band manager, Tayshia’s man and Bennett. That’s it. And 2 out of those 3👎🏿😩🙅🏿‍♀️...it’s all a tv show. And if we had the season play out...Clare realistically would not be getting married to any of those dudes (maybe Jason or Zac). Even Dale...he is not the father of her child. The pool of guys is so fundamental to the show.
@tracyanne1548
@tracyanne1548 3 года назад
I think Tayshia's season was so good because of the non-traveling they had way more time to get to know each other and spend more quality time together
@thumperkc
@thumperkc 3 года назад
I actually liked it without the travel. Seemed like they got genuine contestants that weren’t in it for the perks.
@itsfaithtime
@itsfaithtime 3 года назад
I agree!! It was less focused on the activities and more focused on the conversations and relationships 🥰🙏 I loved it! 💕
@alexandrareid4100
@alexandrareid4100 3 года назад
Even Zac said the lack of traveling worked better for him and his relationship with Tayshia
@thequeen3834
@thequeen3834 3 года назад
I also liked that Tayshia was so intelligent and handled every situation with grace and class. She makes me want to do better in difficult situations. Then again I wanted her to be batchelorette since Coltons season and she over achieved I can go on and on lol
@stardustmelody2709
@stardustmelody2709 3 года назад
I thought the lack of travel made it boring. The dates were dumb.
@benk718
@benk718 3 года назад
Clare demanded respect from everyone else but didn’t give it back in return.
@Monkee101
@Monkee101 3 года назад
🎯🎯🎯🎯
@olivialayne06
@olivialayne06 3 года назад
Damn that sucks for Clare. She’s lowkey gonna be remembered as a lot of people’s least favorite bachelorette. She waited YEARS for the gig, only for her to be so disliked YIKES 😭
@StormyKid27
@StormyKid27 3 года назад
Lol Yosef did bring her some sympathy
@bethanymclean2136
@bethanymclean2136 3 года назад
@corn I mean realistically it was production that thought up the strip date, so he should've been pissed with them, not her.
@Angela-eq6vk
@Angela-eq6vk 3 года назад
@@johnsmeith3913 bro if you let a highly produced reality show make you think anyone deserves hate from the whole country, you need to chill out. That’s just mad weird.
@itzdumb
@itzdumb 3 года назад
@@johnsmeith3913 bruh this comment is so unneeded. It’s so mean :/ I can’t imagine someone getting hundreds of these kinds of comments and then telling them that they “deserve” it.
@timinwsac
@timinwsac 3 года назад
@@johnsmeith3913 For being billed a the 39yo bathelorette, again and again, I came away with the feeling that she was a 17yo.
@S.kmss515
@S.kmss515 3 года назад
The only thing I disagree with is Tayshia getting an A she deserves an A+
@rachelconsoli8428
@rachelconsoli8428 3 года назад
I think the aged up cast had a lot to do with the better convos, lack of forced drama, and us getting attached. These men had established jobs, knew what they wanted, went through real issues but had taken steps to better themselves. They were just so genuine, I adored them. I’m a bit bummed they didn’t send to continue this trend with Matt’s women’s ages, but at least they continued the diversity so that’s something. I will say while Tayshia’s listening skills did allow them to shine, I do feel like I don’t know her any better after this season which kind of bums me out. I’m happy for her, but I feel far more invested in the men than her. I do think editing Clare’s season to be as rough as possible truly set her up for a great season since she didn’t really do too much as a lead.
@estherreyes4461
@estherreyes4461 3 года назад
I completely agree with you except from the statement that we didn't get to know Tayshia any better. Comparing how I see her in her season of the bachelorette vs how I remember her from Colton season, I think I got to know her to a deeper level. Tayshia is probably one of the most transparent people I've seen in reality tv, so it was a matter of giving her the necesary screen time to get to know about her. Maybe you feel that way because one has to put a little bit of effort to read between the lines of editing to understand her and knowing her a little bit moree.
@atkcsc
@atkcsc 3 года назад
Agreed. Seeing Tayshia and the men interact made me quite confident she will find a good match at the end of this, while during Peter's season I kept feeling the impending doom. Looking at Matt James's season ahead, I am worried a bit (seeing the age of the cast and the drama-heavy promo) but who knows... age isn't everything, there might be lots of good girls in that bunch. I hope they will be the ones to go far, and that Matt James will find love too.
@ForeverFashionGirl21
@ForeverFashionGirl21 3 года назад
I don’t think Matt will end up with his final pic long term...
@SomebodysWatchnYou
@SomebodysWatchnYou 3 года назад
Yes!!!
@lashty392
@lashty392 3 года назад
i love the fact that tayshia sent the runner-up home before the proposal. I find it so annoying when the lead has 2 or more proposals and rejects them before the actual proposal.
@julietteSoul
@julietteSoul 3 года назад
Ivan was used by the show and Tayshia. Just sayin
@crimbleland
@crimbleland 3 года назад
For sure, Clare got a bad edit with some of the awkward moments that exist with all leads (i.e. no man talking to her at the first group date). But some of her actions were just over the top and SO characteristic of Clare that only she could be to blame! Much love to her and Dale though.
@Christina-xc7on
@Christina-xc7on 3 года назад
I agree, it can't be all bad editing when she gave them the footage of her acting badly!
@taliaholy3527
@taliaholy3527 3 года назад
Tayshia was an incredible lead! While other leads seemed to ask pretty basic questions or not be that interested in the cast, she really encouraged the men to open up and have deep conversations with her about real things. I think we owe a lot to her for the great season!
@kimesparza1298
@kimesparza1298 3 года назад
Claire was just obsessed with Dale and very rude to the guys. Taysha was more mature and respectful.
@Carolina-gs6em
@Carolina-gs6em 3 года назад
I’m forever haunted by , “I just want someone who will show up for me” Bc it was said so much 🥴🥴
@littlekitty4473
@littlekitty4473 3 года назад
Yes, cliche phrases like, “Show up for me”, “I'm the oldest Bachelorette”, ad nausea. Along with her sheer rudeness to the men while humping Dale in some closet. She had him scoped and chosen before she got there from, at least, social media showing his sports accomplishments. Then she lied to us about it being some miraculous love at first tingling sight instead of her preconceived plan to snag him. Just saying, Clair was duplicitous. And the nudity? If Matt James requests a nude volleyball game, let's see how the producers support that.
@sparksflylove
@sparksflylove 3 года назад
Clare didn’t get a bad edit, she showed her bad personality
@BachelorFantake
@BachelorFantake 3 года назад
Could be both
@ThatGmoney
@ThatGmoney 3 года назад
I’m beginning to think that woman might be borderline personality disorder. I mean the quick rush to love every single time....
@cerisebiscuit51
@cerisebiscuit51 3 года назад
@@ThatGmoney can we pls not armchair psychoanalyse people? I know it wasn’t your intention but it’s really damaging to people who actually do suffer from those conditions and it’s easy to spread misinformation like that.
@randomchickrobin
@randomchickrobin 3 года назад
@@ThatGmoney I’m also borderline and I did see some parallels, but I don’t think we can diagnose her based off what little we saw, plus the edits.
@seasonschange8320
@seasonschange8320 3 года назад
I remember as she was leaving one of the BIP she was like if they would just let me be the bachelorette this would have never happened. Clare has always been about herself go back and watch everything she was on prior...
@coconutsciencegirl9232
@coconutsciencegirl9232 3 года назад
“No. Don’t be smiling”. Gotta love her
@StrawberryNinjaNibbles
@StrawberryNinjaNibbles 3 года назад
Why did she say that? (I didn’t watch the season sry)
@melissaknowlton3436
@melissaknowlton3436 3 года назад
Even though Clare’s part was a mess, I still really enjoyed it. I loved the chaos and drama, and it made Tayshia’s section feel so refreshing. Overall I loved the entire season
@julietteSoul
@julietteSoul 3 года назад
Yes, loved Claire and Dale Dale Dale 👏🏽😂
@lemonaid13
@lemonaid13 3 года назад
To add, when Tayshia walked in and stated, "I'm here for all of you" that just added a whole new mood to the guys and it drew the viewers in. That was literally my favorite part of the entrance, that ushered in the restart of the season.
@03Mrbg
@03Mrbg 3 года назад
I think Clare didn’t gave herself the opportunity to explore other relationships and was kinda rude to the guys..happy for her but i didn’t enjoy her journey. Tayshia was open and willing to see where things could go with her suitors, she let herself enjoy the experience and went with her heart and head..for me one of the best bachelorettes 🌹❤️
@sydneys.8443
@sydneys.8443 3 года назад
This was probably the best season of the Bachelorette with Tayshia because the men were solely there for her- not the travel, to gain popularity, etc.
@Briae
@Briae 3 года назад
I thought both were boring, but I watch for the entertainment side and not for the serious relationship aspect. I watch the show in the same way I watch all reality TV. A quality train wreck that makes me have more self confidence in a horrible way. Usually I don’t care about the cast because I know they are superficial. This season was too serious and I felt bad for them. When I think that I don’t have it together, I just watch the bachelor/bachelorette. Pilot Pete’s season was absolute gold in my opinion.
@coconutsciencegirl9232
@coconutsciencegirl9232 3 года назад
The thing that taysha and Zack get is actually pretty special. They get the show without the destinations. Without the fake romance. Everything must’ve been real between them because there was nothing to hardly spark it up at all. I mean anything’s romantic on a boat ride through Venice italy! You could be with someone you hardly even like and you might be fooled into thinking you do because of the ambiance! They got their plain little pool dates sure. But I’m sure they also have a deeper connection because of it.
@brittanyhinton7860
@brittanyhinton7860 3 года назад
I’m here for your grading, Professor Fantake.
@beccag2758
@beccag2758 3 года назад
Both Tayshia and Clare deserve A+ for their choice in dresses.
@zack6012
@zack6012 3 года назад
I'd argue Clare's season didn't have "romance" because it was all too fast with dale and appeared to be and was presented to be infatuation. there wasn't any time to really see growth or a meaningful connection be made until the last second at Clare and Dale's dinner. They probably really are romantic. but in the time on the bachelorette overall I would say no. maybe there was for like 5 minutes.
@Christina-xc7on
@Christina-xc7on 3 года назад
This is it for me too! Everything with Clare and Dale felt completely inauthentic. They knew each other for 3 weeks, and we never really saw any meaningful conversations or interactions between them, just making out. I feel so bad for him that he was pushed to propose!!!
@jacobrichardson4114
@jacobrichardson4114 3 года назад
People will remember clare because Dale is the greatest speedrunner in reality tv history.
@maddiericcinto
@maddiericcinto 3 года назад
💀💀
@mowinnie4821
@mowinnie4821 3 года назад
du du du du
@jacobrichardson4114
@jacobrichardson4114 3 года назад
@@mowinnie4821 bum bum bee da
@ggluvgte101
@ggluvgte101 3 года назад
i do feel bad for claire for the edit she got, but I do also feel like you really can only get a non-exhausting edit if you did non-exhausting things..
@hailey7368
@hailey7368 3 года назад
True. I at least give her credit for knowing what she wanted. *cough* Peter *cough*
@awwready_28
@awwready_28 3 года назад
@@hailey7368 but that doesn't change the fact that she's a shitty person. Peter was just stupid Clare legit wasted everyone's time
@hailey7368
@hailey7368 3 года назад
@@awwready_28 I think calling her a "shitty" person is kinda harsh but to each their own 💁‍♀️
@awwready_28
@awwready_28 3 года назад
@@hailey7368 your right it is kinda harsh because at the end of the day she's human but would your sentiment be the same if Clare was Chad instead??
@hailey7368
@hailey7368 3 года назад
@@awwready_28 Yeah, it would stay the same. Gender doesn't negate that for me. In my opinion (and again, this is just my opinion), I have more respect for Clare for stopping things early after she was certain that Dale was the one she wanted. I felt it truly would've been a waste of time if she lead the other contestants on until the finale and made them think they had a chance with her while she knew she was always going to pick Dale.
@beccag2758
@beccag2758 3 года назад
All people/personalities aside, for me a ‘problem’ with Clare’s part of the season is the same problem with a lot of romantic subplots in movies, tv shows, and books. Insta romance bordering on infatuation. Now, obviously the Bachelorette is somewhat real (or at the very least, not entirely scripted) so saying “Insta romance is bad writing” is a weird complaint, but honestly what it felt like to me. I felt the way I do watching 2 leads in a movie who barely know each other make out for... plot? Just my opinion
@peaceloveGen
@peaceloveGen 3 года назад
I do appreciate that Clare didn’t waste time going through the motions for weeks, and decided to run off with Dale, I just feel like she didn’t really “Bachelorette” or embody the role, if that makes sense. I don’t really feel like she gave the other men a realistic chance. We didn’t really get to know them at all. Tayshia was very open to getting to know all the men. Even her first impression Rosé selection did not stick like it does for a lot of Bachelorette leads. She could cancel rose ceremonies to get to know the men more and use that extra time to her advantage, and would send men home when she knew they weren’t the one. She would give men positive affirmations after group dates, even if they didn’t get the group date Rose. She was very respectful to the men. Love watching her love story.
@alexisstockwell673
@alexisstockwell673 3 года назад
Yes I also appreciated how Tayshia told the guys what she enjoyed about them whether they got the group date rose or not! It showed that she was truly paying attention to the guys and it allowed them to learn more about what she wanted in a husband!
@zohononkogui1250
@zohononkogui1250 3 года назад
And Tayshia first impression Rose stick like a lot of bachelorette ???😂😂😂
@nabeeha3131
@nabeeha3131 3 года назад
@@zohononkogui1250 they said it did not stick like a lot of bachlorettes
@jdoe754
@jdoe754 3 года назад
I guess I just mentally block Claire’s season lol Tayshia was the only lead this year 🤷🏻‍♀️
@zohononkogui1250
@zohononkogui1250 3 года назад
And yet you don't know her name
@jdoe754
@jdoe754 3 года назад
@@zohononkogui1250 not knowing her name and spelling it wrong are 2 different things 😘 take a chill pill Karen 😂
@sammyalcantara5932
@sammyalcantara5932 3 года назад
I knew clares season was doomed when she would not stop talking about Dale
@elianevdb
@elianevdb 3 года назад
Great analysis. You forgot to factor in one key element to Tayshia’s season success: the quality of the contestants was greatly improved from past seasons and that is due to Clare. Because she is more mature, they tried to recruit more mature, adult, genuine participants. Guys with more brains, more depth. Not sure they would have gone for the same cast had Tayshia been the bachelorette from the get go.
@ForeverFashionGirl21
@ForeverFashionGirl21 3 года назад
I don’t think Clare is mature... in fact she seems pretty immature but I will say that her being older lead to older guys who some happened to be mature as odds were in their favor
@elianevdb
@elianevdb 3 года назад
@@ForeverFashionGirl21 that is very well put.
@paulojrneto
@paulojrneto 3 года назад
What I liked in this season: - Honest and poignant conversations about delicate, but much-needed to be discussed, subjects. - A great cast (at least on Tayshia's part of the season) with several mature and well-rounded guys. The best since Rachel's season. - The genuine and gradually solid buildup of Tayshia and Zac's romance story. - The efforts of the production to pull out this season despite the tough times. I hardly missed the travelling parts and elaborate settings of previous seasons. What I didn't like in this season: - Clare being thrown under the bus only to uplift Tayshia's part of the season. (Even though you have to concede that Clare didn't do herself any favours.) I think Clare and Dale's story could have been portrayed much better instead of looking so messy. - Too much "now you're eliminated, now you're back on the rose ceremony" going on. - Yosef. There's no excusing him. Period. - Eazy still getting a positive-ish edit despite the serious accusations over him that the show somewhat overlooked.
@IGottaPeeALotAtNight
@IGottaPeeALotAtNight 3 года назад
Wait... what Eazy accusations????? 😱😓
@jasonsthegoat3404
@jasonsthegoat3404 3 года назад
What eazy accusations
@IGottaPeeALotAtNight
@IGottaPeeALotAtNight 3 года назад
@@paulojrneto where’s the link? I don’t see a link in the comment but I’m also on a phone so idk of that changes things...?
@paulojrneto
@paulojrneto 3 года назад
@@IGottaPeeALotAtNight Eazy is accused of rape. There's a story in the Huffington post about the reaction of his alleged victim to him being on the show and how she tried to contact the show about it.
@IGottaPeeALotAtNight
@IGottaPeeALotAtNight 3 года назад
@@paulojrneto damn.... that’s horrible and disgusting. Hopefully this situation gets handled properly
@clarak.mallah4137
@clarak.mallah4137 3 года назад
Maturity made Tayshia's season quite memorable! She listens, she's respectful etc. Many bachelor and bachelorette contestants don't have these attributes!
@frostandpolish3243
@frostandpolish3243 3 года назад
Great vid, Fantake! Your grade for navigating us through this season: A+
@Amourd08
@Amourd08 3 года назад
Tayshia was a great Bachelorette (one of the best in the whole franchise imo). She was fun, genuine, kind, empathic and showed care as well as respect to every single man on her season. That's why so many various men became so loved by the public. Also, she gave the men the space to be vulnerable and open up to her. And for someone (esp. a man) to be vulnerable they have to feel a sense of trust in the person and believe they care about them and wouldn't judge them which is the energy that Tayshia brought to those conversations, trust and acceptance. It's evident listening to so many of the guys say great things about Tayshia in podcast interviews, at the Men Tell All, IG, etc. how much they appreciated her. Even if they ultimately didn't have a romantic connection with her, they still respected and liked her as a person because of how well she treated all the guys. Also on another note, she's been one of the best dressed Bachelorette's ever. Her fashion choices were on point throughout the season, loved so many of her outfits!
@sabrina8436
@sabrina8436 3 года назад
I’ve literally 20+ screenshots of all types of looks she wore. That short green dress? Can’t get over it
@Amourd08
@Amourd08 3 года назад
@@sabrina8436 LOL me too!!!
@albataliephillips4271
@albataliephillips4271 3 года назад
I watched an interview by Lauren Zima with Tayshia and Zac. Lauren asked what advise Tayshia would give others to handle tough conversations moving forward and she answered. Afterwards Zac said that she doesn't give herself enough credit. The reason those conversations could be held, was because of her and that she made them feel comfortable enough to share. I completely agree. I believe a big part why we had these conversations was because Tayshia created that platform for the men to share. She handled them openly brilliantly, no judgment, not fazed at all. Bravo!
@ThePinkHanger
@ThePinkHanger 3 года назад
I have a feeling Matt's Season will look JUST LIKE pilot pete... I really REALLY hope not. I going to see how the first few eps go.
@Angela-eq6vk
@Angela-eq6vk 3 года назад
Poor Clare. People don’t notice little things like how many of her quips were frankenbyted and how so many of her scenes had no score (music) when they otherwise would have if they weren’t trying to hammer the “Clare bad” point home. Clare is, of course, not everyone’s cup of tea, but they gave her a very obvious villain edit so that we’d have maximum positive feelings about the switch. Also, Noah said Tayshia is a good listener, but that she very rarely divulged anything about herself. I loved what she brought out in the guys - amazing. But I left the season still not really knowing who Tayshia is. That’s the only area I’m disappointed about really.
@turtleville288
@turtleville288 3 года назад
That is such a good point! I didn’t even finish the last two episodes of Tayshia’s season because I just wasn’t invested in her, and I didn’t know why. She is very guarded and didn’t share that much about herself, so I don’t empathize with her, and it’s not interesting to me. It’s much more interesting and engaging to watch leads who put themselves out there completely like Hannah B or Clare, even if it’s a hot mess.
@aya-_-3045
@aya-_-3045 3 года назад
I feel like it was both. I think she did get a bad edit but I also don't think she had a good personality either. I feel like you can really only get a bad edit if you did things that showed attributes of a bad personality
@taylorgayhart9497
@taylorgayhart9497 3 года назад
I 100% disagree about production. The entire first four episodes were so WEIRD and I don’t think it’s Claire’s fault. We caught them in multiple lies, and the Frankensteined multiples sentences together throughout the entire thing. This season felt so produced I STRUGGLED to get through it.
@Jess-eo4xf
@Jess-eo4xf 3 года назад
I really did not find myself missing the travel this season. I loved a lot of the simple dates at La Quinta, likes Ivan's first one-on-one and Zac's photoshoot date. Going forward to when a bubble is no longer needed, I think I would prefer if maybe they only travelled for hometown's and then were in a fun destination for fantasy suites or something. I think having the simple dates allowed us to get to know the contestants EARLIER in the season, so I really felt like I knew them and could root for them by the time we got to final 4 and so on.
@flannelsandsweatpants
@flannelsandsweatpants 3 года назад
I think the setting of Tayshia's season and the limited date activities that they could host there made the relationships feel more organic and real? Like, the dates weren't extravagant and wild, not quite a whirlwind romance - just two people on a cute little date doing cute little things together. As a viewer, you don't get lost in the fantasy of everything because it's all quite simple, relaxed and natural.
@Jobother
@Jobother 3 года назад
Definitely! On previous seasons theres some people that seem like they're just there for a vacation
@phoenixgirl70
@phoenixgirl70 3 года назад
Yeah that’s why I think so many couples break up. They have so many endorphins and positive emotions by the travel and luxury, that they mistake it for real feelings for the other person. It’s why so many vacation flings don’t work in the real world.
@Blueeyesinthesky
@Blueeyesinthesky 3 года назад
I agree! It was more natural and the fancy dates weren’t a distraction, it was more about them
@seasonschange8320
@seasonschange8320 3 года назад
Tayshia treated her guys with so much class and repsect!
@Lunarpoppyfan
@Lunarpoppyfan 3 года назад
I really liked Bennet when the show first started but then as the show went on my feelings changed for him. He began to get on my nerves and I was glad to see him go.
@rebinalaishram7867
@rebinalaishram7867 3 года назад
It is all scripted we don't for sure if he is real. Even Krystal wasthe villian,in arie season she didn't turn out to be bad at all. Jed was portrayed as the good guy' in Hannah season he was there for fame. It is all scripted. The producer is making them play the villian to get ratings.
@isaiahvargas5936
@isaiahvargas5936 3 года назад
who would've thought we'd have the worst and best bachelorette ever all in one season
@blue-phoenix115
@blue-phoenix115 3 года назад
The two dislikes from Claire and Dale
@kathy-t5q
@kathy-t5q 3 года назад
😂 😂
@Tee1312Jay
@Tee1312Jay 3 года назад
😭😭
@karna8658
@karna8658 3 года назад
A+ for Claire season because it had Yousef in that show. Yousef the real man
@Ann-md9ov
@Ann-md9ov 3 года назад
Claire didn't have a season only episodes Claire didn't care about knowing any other men
@deedeetalks9612
@deedeetalks9612 3 года назад
“May the live happily ever after” that didn’t age well 😭🥴
@ladykat16
@ladykat16 3 года назад
Ouchh
@tamikkajohnson1589
@tamikkajohnson1589 3 года назад
We needed Clare's 3 episodes so that we could juxtapose the wonder of Tayshia's season. Tayshia showed that you can be a strong lead with minimal drama from your input.
@yasmeenm6435
@yasmeenm6435 3 года назад
The best part of this season is, without a doubt, Bachelor Fantake coming through with quality content and reaching 100k subs!
@katherineblaszczak5721
@katherineblaszczak5721 3 года назад
I know that the aim is to find love, but at the end of the day being the bachelorette is a job. And Claire did poorly. If you refuse to give other people a chance, or at least give that illusion, there is no show. I do believe that her edit was exaggerated and I honestly feel awful for her, but she should have done her best to get to the end and respect the other men and their time. She was far from the only lead to know their pick early.
@yourefired5964
@yourefired5964 3 года назад
That’s the exact reason why I like Clare. The bachelorette/bachelor is fake, they waste their time, drag things out, play with emotions and feelings. Clare knew what she wanted, did not accept drama, did not lead others on. She’s the best to ever do it.
@katherineblaszczak5721
@katherineblaszczak5721 3 года назад
@@yourefired5964 Totally agree, I do like Clare a lot and I feel like she had such a human reaction to the whole experience. But that's why I just don't think she was a good fit for the role. On some level I think you need to have good acting skills to be able to follow through to the end. That being said, she gave us a story we'll never forget. Hope she and Dale stay together!
@fobpatdrkcgp
@fobpatdrkcgp 3 года назад
I think they should ALWAYS announce the next bachelor/bachelorette before the season starts-I just feel like then you definitely won’t have ppl who come for the wrong reasons. The men were fantastic and mature, and I’d love to see more older people on the show who are seriously looking to settle down. I am worried about the next season for that reason. The girls seem very young and dramatic, and I don’t want a repeat of Colton/Peter!!
@christianone6611
@christianone6611 3 года назад
If it's for a shallow television show...positive or negative fame... Will ALWAYS draw people there for the wrong reasons, but I agree that it would help REDUCE the competitive tension a bit. There will still be people trying to portray a perfect image so they MAY be picked for FUTURE bachelor franchise options. But yeah, I get your point.
@ashleycotterell5419
@ashleycotterell5419 3 года назад
I also fully now think that Clare was coerced into getting engaged. Neither of them had said yea I want a proposal now! That was Chris telling them they do. They had also already called in Tayshia at that point and had to ensure that they got them off the show.
@folklorelover13
@folklorelover13 3 года назад
I am fearing Matt’s season will be Peter 2.0.. I am already over this Queen Victoria drama
@albataliephillips4271
@albataliephillips4271 3 года назад
Tayshia's season is my favorite season. Period.
@miazander
@miazander 3 года назад
seemed to me like Clare forgot to give respect while demeaningly DEMANDING it for herself. I think one can draw healthy boundaries with others when we feel disrespected while remaining kind to others. I wish Clare all the best.
@benk718
@benk718 3 года назад
Tayshia was also edited but she didn’t end up looking bad. If you don’t say or do anything questionable than there’s no way they can change that. I’m glad Clare found what she was looking for but that’s no reason to excuse what she did along the way.
@rachelsweeney5571
@rachelsweeney5571 3 года назад
If clare and dale are still together in 2 years I think her season will be seen in a much better light
@michellegordon3319
@michellegordon3319 3 года назад
Right I completely agree. Dale barely got to know her properly and only time will tell if he is in it for the long run. Their relationship was so premature and not built on superficial conversations
@annyfascia
@annyfascia 3 года назад
They broke up haha
@emmadoesartonline
@emmadoesartonline 3 года назад
lol
@samjennings4397
@samjennings4397 3 года назад
it was super frustrating to watch clares season i will be honest about that guy it mainly was because i knew the outcome, i kind of like her and dale together and am genuinely happy for them, but tayshia fucking got me choked up almost every episode, there was something so realistic about certain relationships and idk i personally have a new favorite season
@jdoe754
@jdoe754 3 года назад
I really like this simple style of dating this season so much more. The Game night with Ivan was by far one of the best dates!
@robynkaulback629
@robynkaulback629 3 года назад
Tayshia and Zac were made possible because of Clare and Dale.
@nishq_4926
@nishq_4926 3 года назад
A Fantake Video? What a great end to 2020!!
@shrutik9673
@shrutik9673 3 года назад
I freakin know right!!!!
@Mimiscellaneous
@Mimiscellaneous 3 года назад
Clare is immature. Her relationship with Dale didn’t feel like a 39 yr old woman choosing a husband; it was more like a 16 yr old choosing her boyfriend. She was infatuated with Dale - not in love with him. They didn’t have any meaningful exchanges just attraction. I hope for their sake that it works out, but I doubt it’ll end well.
@kms5793
@kms5793 3 года назад
lets not forget that clare was super cringe and bratty throughout the season for no reason at all lmao
@adela8021
@adela8021 3 года назад
Clare had a bad editing. They threw her under the bus to make us look forward to Tayshia. Remember when her private conversation with the producer was showen which is very unusual. Also the whole strip dodgeball thing was not her idea at all. Also she never asked to end the season this early. Chris Harrison basically walked in and announced that Clare blew up the show. I think this is really unfair and shows us that the producers and Bachelor franchise dont care at all about loyality. Clare was part of the Bachelor world for years and then was backstabbed as soon as they needed some Drama.
@turtleville288
@turtleville288 3 года назад
I agree! 100% I’ve been saying that this whole time!
@redbarnhomestead7384
@redbarnhomestead7384 3 года назад
Clare being mean to Matt James BEFORE the season didn’t set her up to be liked.
@tazzel10
@tazzel10 3 года назад
what did she do
@kenziecarnes3074
@kenziecarnes3074 3 года назад
@@tazzel10 he had a cameo account that was for charity (i want to say children’s hospital but i don’t remember) and clare tweeted “if you already have a cameo you’re here for the wrong reasons”
@texasseastar
@texasseastar 3 года назад
Clare has ALWAYS gotten the blond airhead edit. We’ve never seen thoughtful, contemplative Clare. Production ensued that we wouldn’t like her or her journey. Tayshia’s edit has always been different. Except for the BS with Noah and Bennett - that was super annoying.
@shane_duffy
@shane_duffy 3 года назад
Who’s here after Dale and Clare broke up?? 😂
@ChasingChey
@ChasingChey 3 года назад
A+ to the producer who stayed up til 3am taping together a cardboard taxi 😂
@anniebanana3698
@anniebanana3698 3 года назад
The thing that people seem to be forgetting is that it had to be this way for Tayshia to find the love of her love. Also, two engagements?!?! Come on, if that's not a successful season overall IDK what is. I will say this about the season overall, I think it really has set up both Bachelorettes for a successful life after the bubble so to speak given that the dates and experiences weren't over the top but rather mundane but in the best way possible. If anything, life outside will feel like more of a fantasy so in other words, it will feel like it only gets better once they move outside and into the real world.
@blacklove8760
@blacklove8760 3 года назад
Yessss.. she listened so much and I feel like she truely brought the best out of all of them
@mynonleatherlife
@mynonleatherlife 3 года назад
Claire is my favorite bachelorette ever by far
@zohononkogui1250
@zohononkogui1250 3 года назад
Me too. She is the goat.
@zohononkogui1250
@zohononkogui1250 3 года назад
Me too. Clare the goat.
@triciamcdonald9879
@triciamcdonald9879 3 года назад
I am happy for Clare and Tayshia but even though she did not give the guys time I feel the producers have a lot to do with it she said she talk with a lot of the guys any way you can fall in love within one day one week one month or one year time if it's going to last it well you can just meet someone and it last a lifetime and you can know someone for one year before you start a relationship and it still don't work out just Pray for both Couple I wish both of them the best love always on this end ❤❤❤❤❤❤
@powergirl0220
@powergirl0220 3 года назад
Blessed that the whole Bachelor routine starts again next week
@pinkopat
@pinkopat 3 года назад
This video is giving me the chance to take a longer study break, thank you bachelor fantake!
@kateliness2
@kateliness2 3 года назад
I'd say Tayshia's biggest "flaw" was that I felt she didn't open up herself as much as she expected the men (i.e., Ben) to open up, and that she blamed Ben's departure on his lack of "openness" when he shared incredibly personal stories and details on the show. Otherwise, I loved her as a lead.
@lucbordage7291
@lucbordage7291 3 года назад
Better decisions from Tayshia. Claire fell for a player but Tayshia ended up with good choices for her final4.
@twjohnsun
@twjohnsun 3 года назад
I personally loved both parts of the season (though tbhI preferred the Tayshia time). Clare's part of the season was super entertaining until the last episode of it and their cringeworthy aftr in Tayshia's first episode. But the drama in Clare's portion was wild. She was fun to "complain" about as a lead. The guys were stellar from the start making it easy to root for them. As BF said the anticipation for Tayshia coming made every interaction more interesting and it was a great setup for the best lead in a long time! Overall this was my favorite season of the bachelorette.
@Ana34132
@Ana34132 3 года назад
Yousef did NOT make himself look bad. He only said the truth.
@beatrice2236
@beatrice2236 3 года назад
I find it interesting that someone here thinks Zac giving production thank you notes is so significant. Nice thing to do, maybe nice guy, but it took him 10 years to thank his "angel" who saved his life, when she was still working at the same bank? And when there was media story involved....he could have thanked her without putting it out to the public...but he can write thank you notes to random people on the show? I find all these people to be very fake and performative...but that is what makes them wealthy afterward..creating some type of image and then people follow so they can hawk things or take away media opportunities from people who have trained for and worked for them in the business.
@Stephanie-rg5ln
@Stephanie-rg5ln 3 года назад
Loved this analysis and the editing! Been watching you since he who must not be named's season and boy has it been a wild ride. Hannah B and Tayshia have a true place in my heart!
@taurus1647
@taurus1647 3 года назад
Tayshia A ++++++++++++++++++++++++++
@drownzi
@drownzi 3 года назад
RIP Clare and Dale. No one is surprised but hey.
@emmaj5807
@emmaj5807 3 года назад
"Tayshia the listener" yess ❤️❤️
@tkennedyreads4525
@tkennedyreads4525 3 года назад
I feel we should also give Tayshia bonus points for always looking STUNNING
@venussuki
@venussuki 3 года назад
I really don't like the way Chris Harrison said "Don't F with Me" to Claire. That was just as disrespectful as what Yosef did but they just glossed over that because he's the host.
@kandegomdah4718
@kandegomdah4718 3 года назад
Clare did exactly what she needed to do . And if no other but I applaud her for knowing what she wanted to didn't have to go through all the drama.
@decorsenfoliemagasin5127
@decorsenfoliemagasin5127 3 года назад
What?? bad?? Clare's was so unexpected...and real!. She cut to the chase and went for what she really wanted, right away!!. I personally enjoyed the fact that after so many years of "same old same old" scenarios, Clare flipped the script and went a whole different direction. And that's what made people continue watching. Purely refreshing material and I'm pretty sure the execs at ABC loved it as well.
@venussuki
@venussuki 3 года назад
I hate when Chris Harrison said "Don't f with me" to Claire.
@mojos7
@mojos7 3 года назад
Agreed. That was way over the line.
@thehousespouse
@thehousespouse 3 года назад
I don't know. I feel like Tayshia's season got boring after 2 episodes. I think the producers needed to do better with the dates.
@niamatthews7574
@niamatthews7574 3 года назад
If Ivan, Mike P., Wells, aren’t on the Island I’m throwin hands
@OCaptainMercaptan
@OCaptainMercaptan 3 года назад
6:13 are you really telling me Yosef made himself look bad? In a video talking about how Clare gave so little respect to men besides Dale, I would have expected you to note the respect Yosef had for himself.
@Shaz-oo8lq
@Shaz-oo8lq 2 года назад
Ikr, I watched the clip of his conversation with Clare and I honestly dont get why women feel the need to cut men off when theyre trying to say something a bit confrontational? She demanded respect and so did he. He gave her respect but she didnt give him. Once that was established, all hell broke loose. Funny as hell to see the other men blindly run after her crying self.
@sunshinesmile94
@sunshinesmile94 3 года назад
5:50 🤣🤣🤣 Claire respected the heck out of those pants.
@patriciawright827
@patriciawright827 3 года назад
That was one of the most cringeworthy things I’ve ever seen on the Bachelor/Bachelorette! I still don’t know how/when she got Dale’s empty pants, or whose idea it was for her to hold them up and sniff them in front of Deanna- but that was GROSS !
@livrose5672
@livrose5672 3 года назад
Zacs proposal incredibleeeee
@paolacolmenares1863
@paolacolmenares1863 3 года назад
I don’t think I’ve ever been so early!! Keep up the good work :))
@williamcorey4700
@williamcorey4700 3 года назад
Too bad Yosef wasn't there when Tayshia came on. He might've got something good
@Dolphen__
@Dolphen__ 3 года назад
LMAOOOOO THE CLEVELAND OHIO JOKE... plz lay off of us ❤️
@violete.duncan-williams6357
@violete.duncan-williams6357 3 года назад
I come from the future to sadly state that Clare and Dale are no more😭 And here I was wishing her a happy ending😭😭
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