Why Thanos Changed - Wisecrack Edition 

SPOILERS AHEAD: Isn't it funny that the only person who came CLOSE to defeating Thanos in the movie was Thor who, following a sense of honour and revenge, strategized with a team to locate and create the only weapon that could stop Thanos -AKA- he used BOTH Romanticism and Rationalism! That fact that even this failed shows a new perspective will be needed to defeat Thanos. It's interesting too that Thor struck at Thanos' heart (a poetic action) with the weapon - and Thanos corrected him by saying 'You should have gone for the head,' proving Thanos' rationalistic mindset.

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Thanos DESTROYS the Universe with FACTS and LOGIC lol

And here I was thinking that the reason was simply because a character wanting to bang the anthropomorphic personification of Death (who hasn't even made a proper Cinematic appearance yet) would be too esoteric for mainstream audiences. Silly me.

Couldn't you say it's actually much simpler? That the original Thanos reflected the fear of total annihilation at the hands of nuclear weapons, whilst the new one reflects our fear of being ravaged by dwindling resources and global warming?

I actually like both versions of Thanos. Theyre both still very motivated by emotions and philosophy. The Comic Thanos would do anything for love cuz that is his goal while Movie Thanos is willing to sacrifice his love to achieve his goals

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Personally, there is some form of messiah complex that Movie Thanos has that heavily influences his actions. He is a rationalist birthed from his own experience on Titan, where his people fought to the brink of extinction on his planet and that shaped his view on the world: resources are limited, thus the demand should be less to prevent fighting. Hell, he even expresses this complex several times, citing that people on the planets he's visited are happier because of the resource abundance they now have. And he mentions that the people he kills are randomly chosen to avoid discrimination/income gap/etc, seeing himself as the hero in his own story, which is excellent story-telling.

Man I really love this episode! Not because I’m a Thanos fan, but because how you guys produced it. The writing very on point and clear without losing track. Very smart with those comparisons between the Avengers story to the those of classic literature. Good job 👍

Loved the skit at the end btw

I'd argue that Steve didn't want to beat Thanos up with an army specifically. Instead Steve believes in the strength of the human spirit. He believes in people. The people of Wakanda, the Avengers, the people of Earth. That's why he doesn't want to give up Vision, despite that being the logical choice, he believes that people together can come up with another way and that through hard work and cleverness that humans can accomplish anything.

Thanos is always right

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You should do another video explaining why they changed him back into a cliché, one-dimensional villain for Endgame.

I thought this video was going to be about how Thanos changed within the MCU. Because in all preceding movies he has this evil grin on his face and looks like a typical "I enjoy being evil!" type of villain but that was ret-conned in IW with him being outwardly cold but inwardly sad. I have to say I like IWs more nuanced take.

I still prefer the comic version of Thanos, but i appreciate your insight. Perhaps it’s too simplistic of me, but my initial reaction to movie Thanos was “you’re wearing the ‘literally-do-anything’ glove, and your best idea is ‘kill everyone’? That’s so stupid.” But perhaps that’s the point; as a larger social commentary, it’s so much easier to fall into a larger pre-existing camp and ignore its flaws than to explore nuance and find alternatives to bad options. A neat take on things

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Never thought there could be so much philosophy behind superhero movies.. amazing video!!

The movie displays the showdown between fanatic individualism (the ego of Thor / "we don't trade lives" - The Vision) vs. fanatic utilitarianism (fueled by the trauma of thanos - he lost all of his people because he didn't go all the way in his past). I love the movie because it teaches these very hidden messages: Go for the middle way / try to think outside your current ideology.

Did the snap affect the planets Thanos already visited? is there only a quarter of the Asgardians left?

Omg! Thank you for bringing mature points to the discussion

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The thing that's funny to me about this is that neuroscience has demonstrated very clearly that pure rationalism is impossible. The ability to process emotion is absolutely vital to making decisions. I would argue that this is because decisions cannot be made without values, and values are simply an expression of our emotional attachment to things or concepts. Thanos clearly has some level of emotional attachment to Gamora, so he must *value* the greater goal of balancing the universe more than her individual life. He believes he is acting for the greater good. And this is where I think there is a good reason that Thanos most clearly embodies the pessimism of Thomas Malthus - a Romanticist, mind you. Thanos is basically a fatalist: even with ultimate power, the inherent nature of the universe is inevitably cruel. Life unchecked will utterly destroy itself, so you might as well rip the band-aid off now and prevent long-drawn-out suffering. In other words, in the debate about life as a zero-sum or nonzero-sum game, Thanos is CLEARLY on the zero-sum side. The central argument against this, of course, is classically Hegel ("why not both?"). You have a magic glove, so why not change the rules? It's a fantastic argument, really, and only has two possible answers: either Thanos believes this inherent cruelty is beyond the power of even his magic glove to fix, or whether he knows it or not, something inside him actually prefers it this way. This is why I am still on team "Thanos worships Death."

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This was such a good episode! Nice job, y'all.

Making the ad into a little sketch is a nice touch, its much better then just reading out the same line every video.

Thanos in the comics is more of a loon, but Thanos in the MCU see his actions as necessary means to better the universe and is also a loon

That was deep. I love how you keep making me love Infinity War more and more every time.

i cannot even voice how much I love your rationalisation of pop culture. Makes me feel smarter to watch these.

The problem with new Thanos is that the all "killing half of the population" thing is just stupid because there's no thicc Death to please

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I went to one of the Russo brothers interviews and they talked about having giving thanos a more personal relationship to the marvel characters. They said instead of death they used gamora instead to drive him to connect him more with the established universe. But I like your analysis way more and I want to believe that's the intention.

Interesting analysis, but I have to contest your designation of Stark as the protagonist, when in reality this is the story of Thanos overcoming all odds to save the universe in his own twisted mind, right down to going through The Hero's Journey, if not exactly in order.

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Spoiler alert to how infinity war 2 ends: Disney buys the Marvel rights back from Fox so they get DeadPool. DeadPool uses Cabel’s time travel device to go before the first Infinity war, and steals the Gauntlet (comic book Canon), replacing it with the fake one on Asgard. So Thanos is stuck wondering why his gauntlet isn’t working while DeadPool is collecting the Infinity stones for DeadPool3 shenanigans.

You wanna know what *truly* changed Thanos? *The MEMES*

Fantastic episode once again! I love you guys, philosophy of Twin Peaks soon please?

Epic video guys. I'm an occasional watcher. You have got me keen to take a few more philosophy classes. Also analyzing my own short story characters. Thank you. It's a good thing.

So... Thanos is basically in a nutshell, an Emo fedora redit user rationalist fascinated with death going through a phase?

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Bro... Thank you :P I was getting really frustrated in my discussions and this gave me some more information (and ammo).

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"It is important to note that the 2018 Thanos isn't who Thanos has always been." THANK YOU!

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Great video! Well done wisecrack.

Great analysis. One of the best videos on the movie.

The create more resources argument doesn’t work on its own merit, but there is some evidence to suggest that the Infinity Gauntlet couldn’t have done it anyway. Even in the comics, the Infinity Gauntlet only works within its own universe meaning you can’t steal matter or energy from outside the universe preventing a simple doubling of resources. And matter and energy cannot be created from nothing. Aaaand the Infinity Gauntlet from the movie is severely underpowered compared to the comics version anyway.

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i think its a simple case of trying to make him a compelling character cinematically

Okay, tired of people saying Thanos could have created more planets or resources or whatever. I know that due to 'death-of-the-author', it's not technically able to be said as it was never shown in the movie. But for a general bit of information, the Reality stone can WARP reality, but not BREAK it. What that means, is he cannot create, only change and transform. (Of course, if he was smart with biomechanics he could alter the universe and translate soil resources into composite food, yes. But fuck it, not the point.) The fact is, he can't blink a planet into existence (unless he used it to form a planet out of already available environmental resources, like in a nebula... I suppose.)

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So that must be why they'll introduce Captain Marvel before Avengers 4, she might be the middle ground between Stark's brain and Roger's heart.

Does that mean Thor is both? Cuz he did succeed and he doesn't really fall into either of these category, he's something between a rationalist and a romantic.

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Thanks for the repeat Mark!😊

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That was dope I love the use of philosophy to add scope to your points

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Thank goodness, i hadn't considered Thanos being the worst case scenario of Tony and that honestly helps me with this version of Thanos. The movie made him feel so empty inside and nothing like the passionate mad-titan from the comics.

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This is great

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Because Jim Starlin's characterisation of Thanos as a intellectual and self-loathing nihilist who tries to convince the grim reaper itself to love him doesn't fit with the standards of modern Hollywood blockbusters. No one in comics can write Thanos well but Jim Starlin.

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This helps my suicidal crisis a lot

and Tony's plan did t fail. his plan was never put into action

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Great video.

You know how sometimes you walk out a movie or finish the last episode of a show and get that feeling that erase the experience so you can do it again? For me, this is the real world application of that, I get to subscribe after 12 minutes and go back in the content. I can't re-watch this one again for the first time; but damn if I don't want to dive into the archives and chase the dragon.