Star Wars: The Phantom Menace - What Went Wrong? - Wisecrack Edition 

I only bought a Lego star wars set when I was 8 because the clone troopers looked pretty cool

I think you owe us a public apology

Go play with a few Rose Ticos you Disney sellout!!!

George Lucas 😍😍😍😍😜🤘🤗

George Lucas And people who hated it watched it at least 10 times.

You do not understand the power of the dark side. Ian mcdiarmid stole every scene as palpatine.

Kaptin Badrukk so its treason then?

The Prequels are where most Jedi we like come from. Before the Prequels, the force-user/lightsaber-wielding roster was pitifully small. Only Vader, Luke, The Emperor, and Obi Wan for like 10 minutes and Yoda as a sideshow. Qui-gon, Darth maul, Dooku, Mace Windu, general greivous, ki Adi mundi all are added. Even Yoda and Obi Wan are developed by the Prequels.

He was the piece of corn in your shit. Which is still just a shitcovered piece of corn. But enjoy your light.

A great actor in some terrible movies. Between him, the soundtrack, and a select few cool scenes, the prequels have some salvage value despite being mostly irredeemable.

Those real life people that burned women at the stake for calling them witches surely must've though.

@@edgaracajabon9522 Oh yeah!? What about the witches that burned Nicholas Cage in Wicker Man.

@@RandolphTheWhite1 so that's how he became Ghost Rider. Yeah you got something there

@@edgaracajabon9522 That's right. Before being a flaming skeletal biker, he was a police officer/eccentric actor. Most people don't know that

That actually makes it a lot better.. because it DOES FEEL superficial and distorted @_@

That's a really good idea. What an interesting perspective on those movies. Thanks for sharing.

actually.... That makes a lot of sense. Maybe we are seeing the story from Anakin eyes and that's a very good concept... but still the movie falls flat because of its bad execution. That's why we have so many Fan Edits of the movie trying to fix it, with varying degrees of success

If it was made obvious at some point that they did that the movies would be more watchable.

fiddlewheelx look up Belated Media's rewrite of the prequils here on youtube, you'll like what you find

I find it boring lol.

@@cjbray6584 >find should have "found" otherwise you didnt see it when you were a kid

@@goodfty you're greentexting on youtube please just stop

@@JesseBakerH imagine caring about that, you're a legit loser lol

I found it to be ok once it was released on DVD and all of that so I could hit the mute button while watching

The fights are dull as fuck. Just a bunch of people waving glow-sticks randomly and some helium-voiced matchstick men falling over. The music is great though.

Eat shit.

This. It expanded the universe so much, from creatures, to planets, troops, races, weapons and even music. It's just amazing

👍👍

Steven Singh AotC is the best prequel. They’re all shit movies but Clones is the least offensive and some of the action scenes are better.

This. I've been making the same arguement for years. Plus I don't like how wise crack is becoming everything futuristic is Nazism.

Seriously, I think you can actually make a pretty case for every main character having agency. Obi Wan wants to complete his master's last request, to turn Anakin into a jedi. Padme wants to avoid the violence of the war, and just wants for democracy to function. Palpatine wants to become the evil ruler of the universe. Those are all clear motivations that drive the plot. The last one is the most important, but also the trickiest one: Anakin. His agency is his desire for more power. When he's a kid on Tatooine, he wants to be a jedi. When he's an apprentice, he wants to become a master. He's never happy with what he can do, he always wants to become more powerful. And I also totally agree about the midichlorians. I absolutely do not understand the big deal about them. They're just like living "receptors" for the force, it's not taking away any of the mystery. Idk, haters gonna hate I guess.

​@SwenglishGamer That's actually a good comment, and i agree that the comparison for Palpatine to Thanos is not very good. However, if you watched the movie, you know why Qui gon Jin wants to train Anakin, because he senses his power, and then analyses him with the jedi device, to then come to the conclusion, that he must be the chosen one, the one that will bring balance and all, even though this decision or motivation is not something very personal, it is a reason, he is a Jedi master with knowledge and beliefs in his Jedi ways, and when you consider that this movie, and the other two, are moving to connect with the old trilogy, or episode 4, you can better accept a lot of things. I believe while the movies has weaknesses, they where very good movies to watch, and most of the flaws where overblown by fans with other expectations of how these movies would go, and the very different setting from the 4th episode. I don't dislike the Phantom Menace, and the fact that people dislike it for the politics, is pretty weird to me, since this is a very logical thing to go with to make the rise of the empire more interesting, and it is indeed.

@SwenglishGamer That's where i disagree, the politics are a interesting aspect of the movie, how do you think the empire happened? Dull and boring are not words that i would use for Qui gon jin, i would say that he is not a developed character for sure. Now i agree that this is a flaw of the movie, but mostly because it spends very little time presenting some conflicting motivation to why Padme for instance wanted to act, as with a very small scene where she listens to a message where her advisor tells her that the death toll are in the thousands if memory serves me well. That could have been better explored, the point is that, for me that was enough, not the best way, but it was there. In the end there was still a very enjoyable movie there, and i would not believe that most of the "hate" doesn't comes from conflicting expectations. Star Wars has flaws in all of it's movies, and while i accept that this is the weakest of the movies, it still is a good watch.

@SwenglishGamer Yep, the sequels did fail, they went head dive into doing a Star Wars movies without having the complete picture beforehand, plus some really weird decisions along the way, in other words, a lot of shit. I will say this, you are putting a lot of emphasis on the "emotional" part of the characters, which is an important aspect, but i don't mind too much on the human factor of those characters as my primary relating aspect to any movie, to give you a perspective, i started watching star wars because of the spaceships and lasers stuff, some of my favorite parts are from the space battles, and the Tie fighter is the most iconic ship to me, even more than the Falcon, even after growing up, the tech and scy-fi aspect of said movies, are the things that get my interest going the most, not that i skip the human or emotional aspects any bit, it's just that this is not what i'm mostly going for with any movie. The world building, the places they go, the rules and aspects of these civilizations they visit, the tech itself and how they deal with all of these, are aspects that if well done enough, i will be satisfied with, and then the other portions will be the icing on the cake. These movies do that very well, and are superior even more that of the original trilogy in this. And i'm also not denying any of the pointed flaws, i respectfully commend you for not going with "the light saber fights are too over choreographed" or "the CGI is horrible" usual targets. If you look at what the characters have, they still have a good structure to them, but the lack of emotional investment in each of these in the first movie, is something that would greatly benefit the movie, had it been better explored, i don't disagree. I also don't back down from my statement that this is a good movie, and that these movies received extra degree of scrutiny from some people for previous expectations. If i could see these aspects of the movie and the plot, I'm pretty sure there are a good bunch of other people as well.

Awesome might be a bit much :P But it's a good movie worth watching

Agreed. To any extent I pay attention to any story in Phantom, it's mostly about Qui-Gon. Firstly using his wits to frustrate imposing threats coming from mysterious evil wizards, and secondly making the resolute choice to train Anakin. Though I do also see two other powerful moments of "agency" in the movie coming from Anakin and Padme, choosing to selflessly help strangers and then liberate Naboo respectively. Qui-Gon even died making sure Darth Maul wouldn't interfere with the latter.

@wespozo Are you fucking kidding me? He barely have any character and the shit he did is 100% shady

Agreed, but the story might have worked better if it had a clear protagonist, from the start (and him being Anakin).

Qui - gon was following the force not the Senate

Duel*

Yes!

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this. Amazing song, and the message behind is super cool.

I agree... However i do really REALLY gave this movie a chance. When i was a kid by the time i was 9 i already watched the episodes IV, V and VI a lot of times, i was a fan, i get the comics, watched the droids series, toys and stuff, in 1999 i was 11 and i remember i begged my dad to go watch this movie. So little me watched and... I was a bit confunded, the original was not a complex story i get it, but is was like "WTF are taxes or midiclorians or pod racing" i get out of the movie feeling a bit dumb. Watched again a couple years later a bit before the premiere of episode II and still feel like i was missing stuff. Finally circa 2006 i watched again... And still nothing. I actually dropped any effort to try to get the movie for many years thinking that maybe time would make his work and some time in the future i would find something more valuable in the pequels. Around 2017 some Friends and i did a marathon so i rewatched all the movies until that point, thus giving me the full picture at least in theory of all the films and i put a lot of effort to find anything there, something that the younger me missed all this years... But no, over 20 years later i didn't find anything that can save the mest that episode I is. Maybe another decade Will help, or not.

I Love TPM its amazing. These fans are insane!

I saw it on opening weekend and the special effects looked like total garbage even then.

that would been a great twist for everyone at least!

It wouldn't have fixed the movie but at least it would have been something done right and with a nice twist. Basically the only example of agency in the movie and he screwed it. :/

I always thought that was a great idea, but i dont think lucas was setting that up. If he was, it was horribly executed.

@@maymay5600 at THIS point its not even a twist to anyone. There were things said in the directors cut that pointed to it, the animation giving out hints, Lucas himself saying that Jar-Jar is his favorite character from the start and up until the recent years. This WAS the plan all along.

No, that would’ve been even dumber than what he did

James McMahan This

Second.

I mean but jar jar is kind of a racist frogman js thoughi do agree

While Jar Jar is kind of racist, Skids and Mudflap are outright racist. I can believe that Jar Jar turning out the way he did was kind of an accident, but Transformers 2 was completely intentional.

andyhoov yeah i agree thats why i said kinda and why i still agree hes not the worsr character

Ha

Yyyyyyyyyup.

The prequels is where the Star Wars backlash began...

Honestly yeah I agree

Devon Pederson they turned anakin into a wimp in it

Well every prequel movie is good except ep 2 it's kinda messed up and anakin is cringy

I thought AOTC was better simply because it lacked Jar Jar other than a 2 minute scene.

Lee Everett AOTC?

if we can get him twerking

You don't get it it was stylistically designed to be that way

dont forget most all the play time wasted on the fraking pod race! why do people forget that !!

Hurr Durr I'm still on board with the Darth jar jar idea to salvage him.

Honestly i really wish Darth Binks was true. Because goddamn that would have made episode one good in hindsight supported by the following movies... you know like a series is supposed to do

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Exactly.

For me, anyway. I never minded Jar-Jar as a character and more with how he was used (I don't think it's a huge problem or anything but still). The Clone Wars kind of changed his character a little too much for me to like him as much. That's still a great moment but I think he kind of lost his charm after TPM.

My favorite episode with Jar Jar was when Bail asks him to distract the trade federation representative while he sends supply ships behind their backs. Jar Jar successfully carries his part of the plan

LOUDER FOR THE PEOPLE IN THE BACK!

his characters def more than a bit problematic, but knowing he’s supposed to be like goofy def makes liking him easier(even if that makes me feel questionable about goofy), he’s hilarious in clone wars

Dark-Lark it basically already was his movie. That guy’s acting was one of the only good things about it. That and the music. The prequels were designed be be two things. The Story of Darth Vader, and the Story of The Empire. If, however, they had been the Story of The Emperor and his rise to power, they would have been much better. Anakin has little agency mostly cause he’s a kid

I think it wouldve been better if it focused on anything. Tell the story from Palpatines perspective sure. Anakins fine. Hell even Obi Wan or Padme. But this thing is all over the place with so much unnecessary stuff. The whole Gungan story with Jar Jar makes the Casino scene in TLJ look like a nitpick. The second one has a similar issue, the third ones the best but so much crap has been baked into the pie at that point. Also Vader never does anything badass. I always wanted to see him slay like tons of Jedi Masters and prove his superiority not just have storm trooper grunts take em out.

@Hanju Vasi True. But one can see Lucas was trying to show a child prodigy kind of thing... like Beethoven but with the force or a Baby Jesus thang. I mean honestly though there are probably a thousand ways one couldve told this story better.

everything before it he'd had an amazingly talented team doing the majority of stuff needed. it wasn't an issue with the movie, it was an issue with him. not even his fault tbh he was at beginning of his career everyone learns and adapts into who they'll be, he got way too much praise and everyones expectations shot way too high. if you waych episode 1 and honestly don't let yourself compare to others its really not that bad,.

It would have also been better if Jar Jar had actually been the "hidden" Sith Lord people have made him out to be. That would have made his entire presence and all of his actions not only forgivable but understandable.

Dad, is that you?

What'd he do, drive into a taco Bell or something?

Line was pretty long... hes been there for 14 years

Don't forget your dead wife who died tragically when You cut her brakes I mean She hit a tree

whats wrong with your faaaace

Darth Jar Jar solves everything. They should do a video on that, and not repeat old arguments.

yshwgth eh it would just to be basically the same movies with a different twist

Darth Darth Binks

Adrian Dezendegui yea but at least jar jar would have had a purpose

If Disney makes this canon, I will forgive them for the Last Jedi.

Now they've started playing an ad showing fat women squeezing into special girdle contraptions that fool men into thinking that they are not lazy, blubbery, sloppy, and gross.

For me its goddamn Grammarly - god dam I cant get away from it. Just abuse them on their FB page for revenge - I do.

@@simonbarr9476 It should be "it's", "damn", and "can't" has a apostrophe, if you only you's have Grammarly it could have fixed all of those for you (:

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I personally liked it when Obi Wan jumped up with the Force and sliced the shit out of Dark maul. He made that fucker go down the rabbit home like a chump

@@edgaracajabon9522Huh, imo that scene specifically really drags that whole fight scene down, I mean Maul really just stands there and let’s Obi bisect him lol, you’d think he’d have like… done anything at all? He had a good amount of time to react lol, could have just sliced Oni up like Obi did to Ani on Mustafar.

Agreed

Acting like that rumor is fact, is the most ridiculous shit I've seen the internet run with. Because there are minor hints, and people theorizing what it "COULD" mean...there is no concrete evidence Jar Jar was anything more than the token goofy character. Stop passing this unsubstantiated rumor around as fact. Nobody cares if GL said "Jar Jar is key" out of context in an unrelated question....he was likely nothing more than comic relief.

Corey ooooh buddy it IS fact, watch the phantom menace again, and watch jar jar binks, the hand waves when he suggests something, of the fact he is in the background and his lips are moving as as the main character the movie is focusing on, honestly man I didn’t believe it until I watched it again and omg it felt like watching a whole new movie, there’s also the theory video about it breaking it down scene by scene.

I've seen COUNTLESS videos breaking down all the supposed reasons & rationale behind it...They're all heavily predicated on assumptions and what they WANT to see, rather than the truth of the matter. People see what they want to see, rather than what's actually there. I've tried to subscribe to this theory repeatedly, but after watching the PM each time, it's far too much of a stretch to actually be true. Jar Jar simply is entirely too stupid, on every level, and designed that way intentionally, to the point where nothing could possibly make him appear intimidating, serious or scary for a future evil turn. You can load him up with red lightsabers, change his eye color to red instead of yellow, you can deepen his voice to some James Earl Jones shit, or you could even give him a suit of armor & black cape....the guy will still look like an awful joke. Even looking at fan art for just a concept of a "Darth Jar Jar" is hilarious! Nobody, not even someone as awful as George Lucas, would ever be dumb enough to try & make THAT a lead villain.

delusion is strong in this one

While the Darth Jar Jar is nothing more than a rumor, of the hundred of possible decisions that George Lucus, (Like making the Blackstreet boy a major part of one of the movies.), They was a Star War; Clone War espisode when Jar Jar was mistaken as a Jedi, and even help save the day!

Same. I mean, they aren't the best films, but they are by no means bad. Yeah, some of the acting and voices and really, and I mean REALLY bad, but the themes and the weired group of "protaginists" Alows us to get a sense of scale and points of view, such as the queen's idealism, the jedi's cockyness, the sith's cunning, and corruption of the polotics of the Republic. All of these factors gives us a more cruel, yet more true to life world, where good and evil are blurred a bit. Of course the Jedi are still the good guys, but it becomes apparent in later films that the way they do things is not correct, and could even be seen as aginst the very things they stand for. What I really like about the prequels is that despite being such a bright and cunning young man, Anakin, the chosen one, fails to become the jedi that he was destened to be because his "friends" (the jedi) are always at odds with im, even from the start! They didn't even want to train him despite his gifted abilities because the boy gives a crap about his mother. When he has been treated badly his entire life, he only trusts the few people in his life, and when they betray him to defend the order which stood aginst him, it makes you wonder what he could have been if the Jedi were just a little more flexable. Of course, I don't really understand why he had to kill kids. Over all the prequels are masterpieaces in story, but flawed in execuation. Personally, my favirote star wars films are the 3rd episode, and the 6th one. They show very similar stories, with very similar people, but what makes them diffrent is the showing that no matter if someone belives in good or evil, it is the showing that commpasion (or lack there of) can go a long way for a person. It makes them who they are, and shapes them to what they will become in the future. Compare the people Luke is with verus the people Anakin is with. While luke is with friends he can trust who support him, Anakin is almost exclusivly with someone who he hates, not because they are being hard him persay, but because he is being limited, because he cannot pursue his training because of the fear of his failure. While Luke is able to save his friends, Anakin is not, leading to his eventual turn to the darkside. Yoda was right, but sadly could not see the fear in himself and his fellow jedi. Star wars is my fav saga because it shows such dark themes, but shows solutions to the problems that were thier through decades of time. Wow, I can write all that, but can't right a paragraph for my essay back in school. Well, TL;DR, a person's destiny guided by those who guide him. Thanks for reading.

Sill better than the recent trilogy. Ill take a bad movie with a story over a bad movie with no story any day of the week.

5 6 4 3 2 7 1 9 8 is the correct order :P

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When it's about something as large as Star Wars, even "forgotten " classics like the 1st Clone Wars, it would be difficult to erase it from collective memory. It was on TV all the time, and it shows the signature of real creative thinkers, while remaining true to that basic history already so meticulously congealed. There was an intentional desire to let the more lose Tartakovsky vision to be gradually ignored, instead of letting it earn the status of Star Wars masterpiece.

@Jack Bat Why are tv shows less accessible than movies?

Bhiner1029 I assure you that if I mention “Clone Wars” to my sisters or my mom, they’ll have no idea what I’m talking about.

Ughh, I'll stick with the 2008 CG show instead. I do not see the appeal in the Tartakovsky micro series, it's really ugly and awful to me. Everyone says Grievous is awesome and badass in that show, but to me he looks like he's made out of spaghetti and his fights are so badly drawn and poorly choreographed. Plus, every Jedi near him just ends up dropping about 50 IQ points for no reason and they all forget they have force powers so Grievous can get a contrived victory, except rare moments like Windu crushing his chest -- which he should have just led with! Also Mace Windu looks embarrassingly hideous in that show. His head looks like a keyhole and that's really distracting. And what was up with that ridiculous, stupid-looking fight with the droids? People think that's cool, but why?! Even as a kid I thought that was one of the dumbest things I'd seen.

Pretty sure thats exactly what it was about...

I mean, it IS... but fucked if anyone can really see through all the boring political melodrama. Seriously, I love political drama, and EP1 is garbage. An average Telenovela does a better job of getting their plot across to the audience and they're IMPENETRABLE.

The sith empire is not fascist. It an evil overbearing emipre. It warns against big government.

@@histguy101 It had the potential to be about that. But as they are they aren't really about anything at all.

@@inz1 I think it's mostly because there were too many story lines that tried to be accomplished in too little time. This led to most of the plot components feeling rushed, glossed over, or contrived. Frankly, I think the Anakin origin story should've been skipped over completely. The prequels should've began around episode 2 with Anakin already a jedi in training. Why? Because Anakin's origin story is meaningless to the overall plot of the trilogy, which is his transformation into Darth Vader. Episode 1 should've been him as a young jedi who's powerful but arrogant, and the jedi order trying to teach him restraint. We should've seen him lose his mother in episode 1, despite his almost certain ability to save her, because the jedi restrict him from using his full power. Episode 2 should've seen him becoming more reckless with his power. At the end of the episode, we should've seen Dooku nearly kill Padme, but have Anakin go full-beast-mode and destroy him (in large part with guidance/encouragement from Palpatine). Now he sees that when he follows the teachings of the jedi, he loses loved ones, but when he disregards them and listens to Palpatine, he can save them. Episode 3 should've been the struggle for Anakin to reconcile his belief that the jedi are holding him back with still being a jedi. We should've seen him using his power more and more for self gain, again influenced and encouraged by Palpatine. I'd keep the scene with Mace Windu and Palpatine transforming into the emporer. Here, however, Anakin/Vader feels torn. He loves the power that he has, but he still has his friend Obi Wan and his love Padme, plus he feels guilt over what he did to Mace Windu. He tries to convince Obi Wan to join him, who of course says no and, recognizing the danger he poses, tries to kill Anakin/Vader, who will escape being killed by Obi Wan and go to find Padme who is also not on board with his turning to the dark side. She will run with Obi Wan, Anakin/Vader finds them, and him and Obi Wan have their epic faceoff with Obi Wan nearly killing him. In his anger and desire for retribution, he will try to kill Obi Wan but accidentally kill Padme, who by that time had actually given birth (unbeknownst to him). I think that is roughly what George Lucas had originally intended, since there was originally supposed to be 1 pre-prequel and then the prequel trilogy; I believe that first movie would've been the Anakin origin story and the prequel trilogy was the arc of the transformation into Vader. At any rate though, the actual arc (though a bit confusing and less powerful than it could've been) was still quite good, especially in comparison to the dumpster fires Disney is releasing.

I think that's what Lucas meant right, that midichloreans are attracted to force uses but not necessarily the cause of it. At least I hope so, and that's my head canon.

It's a real shame too because the plot is so integral to the enjoyment of a story. It's easy to forgive mediocre music, cheesy effects, and a ho-hum world if the plot is awesome. Inversely if the plot and characters are poor and not entertaining, no amount of the other stuff can make up for it. This is true of any media. If the core is crap than no matter how much polish and fluff you add, it's still crap. If the core is gold, then no matter how much dirt and filth is covering it, it's still gold.

What's wrong with the Plot? Palps started a war to get sympathy to get himself elected Chancellor. It worked so well that he did it again on a larger scale to solidify his power and wipe out his enemies using the very troops they commanded. The shit about Trade Routes was just a pretext, a Smokescreen, a Ruse. Why do you think it was NABOO and not another system? Palpatines home system? He didn't know the Jedi would get involved cause Valorum went behind the Senates back.

THEY WERE NEVER THE CAUSE!!! That's like saying your Phone is the cause of Wi-Fi. Think of the Force as Space Wi-Fi and the Midi's as the Bodies Wi-Fi router, More Midiclorians stronger Signal. Anakin gets Four Bars in a Tunnel.

That's my thoughts exactly. And Jar-Jar is no worse than the abomination that were Ewoks.

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you would have come across Star Wars without this shit show eventually . people don't need shitty remakes to find old gems

@@billymahonyy it’s not a remake and kids loved this movie. That’s who it was made for, dipshit.

@@lubmang5072 Any kid that loved this movie will most likely grow up to be deranged. its that bad.

Jory Jones I agree, there's metric tonnes of media that run with that idea better than this film though

Jory Jones Failing to learn from history and being doomed to repeated and all. Which is sad with the prequels, Lucas brings up interesting things that he doesn't back up well with the writing.

East India Trading Company had their own military, it was one of the reasons monopolies were made illegal.

The video games made from the prequels are a lot of fun because of the excellent world building.

Well A lot of fictional stories explore the possibilities of companies/business replacing governments or the government in general (there might also be real world implications that I'm just unaware) especially if you consider government being paid off by companies so they can do illegal activities.

You're on to something there. For example, many people are confused by Lucas having Jedi tell various characters not to miss loved ones from whom they are separated or not to mourn for the deceased. Well, this is just Lucas himself admiring---but absolutely misunderstanding!---Eastern religions like Buddhism, which teaches you not to indulge in CLINGING attachments, but to learn to let go when you have no other choice. Lucas being Lucas, however, misreads Eastern religions and misrepresents them, thereby confusing his audience.

Those who don’t learn from history are doomed to repeat it.

The prequels were missed opportunities. If only they were characters driven instead of plot driven and take out the wooden acting.

@@PungiFungi Yes, sometimes I think Lucas wanted to excuse his characters, to blame Fate and the circumstances and Palpatine and whatnot... To an extent, that was right. But if the characters had been more interesting, the prequels could have been brilliant.

Realism is just not a good excuse The good guys failings are not explored enough to make it so

No. Just look at r/prequelmemes on Reddit.

Phantom Menace is the only Star Wars movie I own! Because the video store I got it from sold out their old video cassettes. My video recorder died a decade ago and I can't watch it.

I probably watched it hundreds of times as a kid. loved it, even though i have to admit now that it`s not really great.

I watch it even today I was 16 when it came out, I love the Phantom Menace, even though I know it is not a good movie. But is far from the worst , EP2 and EP8 are the worst.

No you're not. It's still enjoyable in parts if you can ignore the stupid bits.

You hate it?

That Darth maul fight is soooooo dope. Ray park is the man

I don't either! It's not even my least favorite star wars movie.

Bar San not gonna lie I don’t love the maul fight

"I don’t dislike the phantom menace" What a compliment!

I laughed out loud.

Anyone want a pizza roll?

I laughed, I laughed when I read this post

Eyes On Breen.

does Wisecrack replace RLM?

Is constantly bitching about the Disney Sequels replacing constantly bitching about the Prequels?

I feel sorry for you.

Episode one was also my first star wars :))

@@marcobarros4742 Star Wars is episode one. Phanton Menace is episode minus three.

solokom shut up

@Jimb0 Star Wars should have died in the 1980s along with James Bond.

Not'The ChosenJuan (edit: your name is clever as hell lol) darth maul was george lucas' biggest mistake in the prequils. He could have been the villain alongside siddeous and given more weight to obi-wan's character arc... instead we got villain-of-the-week style with maul, dooku, then grievous

He was so badass.

What part about him? His stupid makeup, or bad fighting? He was fucking awful, no background, no story, no motivation, just shows up for stupid reason, and dies for a stupid reason, and then the movie ends.

Carewolf bad fighting DUDE THE GUY IN THE SUIT IS A SHAOLIN KUNG FU EXPERT

Carewolf Bad fighting? Darth Maul’s fighting moves were badass!

The best part of the movie was maul vs qui gon and kenobi fight

TPM > AotC > TLJ

* slams desk * Thank you! Thought I was alone with that thought

But how do you feel about sand, Anakin? Is it possibly slippery, with a tendency to nevertheless stay exactly where you put it? Do tell us. And the girl you're trying to pick up. That always works.

I hate sand

Kieran Sampson so so sooooo trye

I see both, with Palpatine kinda like Space Hitler. But the fall of a republic and the rise of an empire definitely felt like Rome.

Isidro Ruiz de Osma You always wanted to be a lying, manipulating, clueless old man with questionable morals?

@@XhungryandhauntedX with a green light saber, please

justanotherchannelonyoutube you have no right to say TLJ was bad if you think TPM was good before seeing TLJ

@@jackhammer9016 and you have no right defending TLJ when you disregard TPM

@@Zomboy123456789 both are trash, but TPM is definitely worse. It's just getting asslicked now cause it's not part of the Disney era movies.

Give it 20 years, it'll grow on you like phantom menace apparently

Ah yes that’s how criticism works, x gets better when something else comes out

The God Emperor of Mankind can you explain what that plot line was or what was intended and could of been? I haven’t heard that before but it wouldn’t surprise me. If fans don’t get what they think the story should be they throw a fit.

@@astashasta1 some "fans" are too fucking retarded to get the storyline.

@Mike Soze's Mysteries Wasn't there literally no evidence to back up this theory other than the out-of-context quote from George saying that Jar Have was the key to all of it, except he was referring to JJ being comedic relief?

@@vsGoliath96 Here's a great video on the subject: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-1rHyf0FBvt4.html

It's almost as if most of the haters of TPM never actually watched the movie and only rely on Plinkett's SATIRICAL review of it.

You are a special kind of dumb.

@@danmenard6917 Watched it many times. It sucks... Also, Plinkett's review is not just satirical, RLM really does hate TPM.

99thTuesday I totally agree with you, the overall story of the prequels is excellent and this film sets the story on it's proper course, it certainly is redeemable by any means, just cut Jar Jar Binks and it's as good as gold.

Bruce Wayne actually has an internal conflict going on...all the characters in the prequels feel like plot devices annd not real people

Bingo.

Last jedi is the worst for me. Force awakens was also pretty silly. Prequels where not actually that bad imo but i saw them as a kid so im as blinded by nostalgia as the poeple that watched the originals first are so mehh...

tacob0 me too ;-;

wishbone346 I'd say the last jedi is in that race too. Attack of the clones has the factory scene that is garbage where the last jedi has the casino planet.

I simply can't take anybody seriously if they genuinely think TLJ is the worst. I just...can't.

Joshua White ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-qfNiSkd3HfI.html

Episode I was less offensive to Canon than VIII, less boring than II and less cloned from the originals than VII and IX

The problem Is that these movie (I, II, III) were made to talk about adult themes but were made for childs, especially the 1st. It's Easy to tell childs about rebels against empire, it's hard to tell childs that good guys are not that good at all. If you think about It you talked about this movie in relation to Batman and Games of Thrones but especially the Phantom Menace it should be compared to Cars because that was target and that target remembers It as a funny entertaining movie (as I do)

He was that bad. I've needed 20 years to forget his historically bad lines

Well that's two things...

Jar Jar needed more cowbell.

[Visible Confusion] lol

Episode 1 still my favourite

It was a bad idea to show the prequels first

I had the exacte same thing. Episode III was my favourite one

I found it really hard to like luke skywalker when I knew that Darth Vader was Anakin

Okay, here we have a very interesting situation. I was also born in 1996 but my father made me watch the original trilogy the moment I could kind of understand what the fuck was going on. To this day, I can't stand the prequels for anything other than a joke, and Empire Strikes Back is the film that holds the entire franchise together. Weird how just watching them in a slightly different order changes so much.

Serbians were genocided against too

No, this movie makes the last Jedi look like a masterpiece

@@4kawaii agree to disagree

@@4kawaii The Last Jedi is a masterpiece

Endezeichen Grimm wait what?

I feel sorry for you.

Jar Jar is one of the most misunderstood character in cinematic history. It's too bad this misunderstanding led to a rewrite of E2 & E3. Jar Jar WAS the Phantom Menace and not in some kind of pun or play on words either. He was a Sith Lord. This was confirmed by many sources, including the actor who portrayed him on set. But people tend to want to believe their first inclination than rather accept they got it wrong and change their ways. There are some fantastic videos of fans who dissected E1 and found evidence hidden in plain sight in conjunction with understanding and knowing the original story that Mr. Lucas got his muse from for writing E1-3. I'll give you a small glimpse into what was initially intended: Count Dooku never existed in SW before E2, check the original lore (not the rewritten material). Due to all the fan disapproval of Jar Jar in E1, it was realized in order for the new trilogy to keep audiences engaged (and money rolling in) they wrote him out and replaced his reveal with a new character: Count Dooku took the place of the villain. It was originally written that Yoda would smell Jar Jar out for who he was and have an epic lightsaber battle at the end of E2. Remember, Count Dooku is killed in one of the first scenes of E3, as he had served his purpose in the plot that so few realized. Sometimes the fans need to let creators build. He was trying to recreate the "I am your father" kind of moment again, but many vocal movie critics don't have the patience or attention span (just look how some many gawked at End Games run time). While most have disagreed with me, I find SW:E1 as a great case study of how mob mentality and groupthink among fans got it wrong and drove change into the very direction they didn't want. But believe what you want.

Jan Sitkowski Such a compelling point. You convinced nobody.

L3 was more annoying than Jar Jar. There. I said it.

@Jan Sitkowski Jar Jar might very well have been a Sith, or conspirator with Palpatine, and he's definitely better than Snoke, MaRey Sue, Holdo and Rose

@Jan Sitkowski L3 is that robot girl in Solo, who whines about robot rights

Heretic! Kill the heretic!

He's not bad, he's the worst.

To quote Leslie Howard in "The Scarlet Pimpernel": "There's nothing so bad as something that's not so bad."

To quote Leslie Howard in "The Scarlet Pimpernel": "There's nothing so bad as something that's not so bad."

I think the original trilogy, well, at least Episode 4 and 5, had something going for it. there was something planned out there. And, there are enough references to Campbell's "Hero of a thousand faces" that can be seen in the original trilogy. You don't really see things discounted or retconned until episode 6

True. They planned out each individual movie, but not the overarching stories that tie them together. Episode 8 wouldn’t have been as disliked (it probably still wouldn’t have been GREAT) if Episode 7 hadn’t set up so much for the characters.

Organon Yeah, because if you want to make a video about any topic, you must know that topic

Maverick Hunter K Topher Grace made one

Yes, but not in all characters. At the beginning of The Phantom Menace all we know is that Obi Wan Kenobi was a Jedi and that he knew/fought alongside Anakin Skywalker, who was a Jedi turned into the dark side of The Force. That's all. In telling the story of how that happened, Lucas and his crew could made the story more complex and at least more detailed that maybe it wouldn't look like bad written. The thing is, there's a lot of themes and topics treated but with poor development and the characters almost look one-dimensional.

The problem was that the characters never really discuss or showcase their thoughts, motivations and feelings. Granted, its clear they live in a society with rigid class roles and expectations (Padma is royalty, Obi Wan and Qui Gon Jinn are effectively warrior priests from a monastery, Anakin's a slave kid.) However even in classic literature from decades or even centuries ago the stories at least discussed the characters internal as well as external motivations. The original 3 Star Wars films are famous for the characters openly discussing their internal motivations. The characters in the Phantom Menace never do so.

But they do have no agency either way and when they do choose it’s either forced (Anakin’s turn) or nonsensical (Padme falling for Anakin) Not to mention the other character problem with TPM...no identifiable protagonist