The 24 is my only GM lens. The way it shows a lot of the scene but at the same time doesn't have that wide look by staying mostly undistorted and introducing more bokeh than the eye expects at such a wide angle gives it such a unique look. If I had to pick one lens forever, it would be a zoom but if I was asked for my favorite lens, it would be the 24 1.4 GM.
I’ve been considering getting a 24mm for sometime now-preferably, the EF 24mm F1.4 L II, for specific reasons-but I am sceptical about “pulling the trigger” because I’m unsure of how I will compose with it. I am a boudoir photographer [primarily], but I also shoot landscapes, products-on my downtime-and even weddings throughout the year. So, what do you think? I’m conflicted about my decision… 😅 Current Lens setup: Canon RF 24-105mm F4 L, Canon RF 70-200mm F4 L, Canon RF 50mm F1.2 L, Sigma 35mm F1.4 (Art), and Viltrox 85mm F1.8 RF. Current Camera setup: Canon EOS R, & Canon EOS R6.
You did not mention that the 16 mm for small frames was my go to lens Sigma 16 1.4 now that I have a wide frame and I stepped up the 24 is the perfect substitute side-by-side for the 16. You didn’t mention this one and that’s why I’m going after the sigma 1.4.
I found two used camera+lens combo. Sony a7iii with Sony 24mm f1.4 GM and Sony a7IV with Samyang 24mm f1.8. Both cost the same. Which combo would you suggest?
Now that the new Sigma 24mm f/1.4 DG DN Art Lens is out, I really feel like I finally have access to a really high quality 24mm for my Sony body for super cheap.
@@patkay boneheaded move. Canon came out with an RF 24mm f/1.8 which is the closest thing natively I can get. I’ll try it. Great video, Pat. Keep it up. Cheers from Puerto Rico.
I used to run a 24mm + 85mm prime combo, than I sold them for a 24-70, after that I got a better 85. I bought a bunch of lenses(200-600, 35-150) and I'm now again looking at the 24mm... What a rollercoaster
The biggest decision why i took the 24mm 1.4gm lens is that my a7rv has 61mp and i assigned a button to toggle between full frame and apsc. That literally gave me the capability to swap between 24mm and 36mm. Its as if i had 2 prime lenses in just 1 go. Its probably the smartest decision i have ever made haha... I was laughing at the store when i realized this 10min before i was about to buy. I was like oh shit. That was genius. Its not my fave focal length but its my smartest decision in purchasing.
I shoot Fuji and bought a 16-80mm for an overseas trip. I sold my 18-55 because I thought I needed the extra reach. However, I soon realized that I went wider rather than longer: I was constantly shooting 16mm. For travel, it is ideal: indoor shots in restaurants, cityscapes and architecture, it doesn't fail. After the trip I immediately bought a 16mm prime and absolutely love it for street photography. Great video, thanks.
helpful comment, thinking about getting a ff-equivalent 24mm or 35mm. planning to use mainly in metropolitan environment with plenty of indoor such as restaurant shooting. thanks!
Have had a 24 GM 1.4 in the arsenal for a bit now. Spot on with your description of versatility and convenient travel use. Portraits, landscape, food... its been awesome for so many purposes.
Thanks for the insight. I do find there is a bit of a slippery slope into the warp zone if you miss target on the subject. Curious, what is your default f stop when using the 24mm? What do you start with and then adjust to when using it?
I opted for the 35GM and the 20G. Such a lovely combo. But passing up on the 24GM was not an easy choice. I was very close to grabbing that one, but I love the 20G too much to get a lens that would make me question which of the 2 to use. I still might own the 24GM later on down the road.
Very nicely explained video Pat! Absolutely love my 24mm too. Use it for vlogs, food, landscapes and portraits! Wide enough to capture everything for my vlogs when I need a wide angle view!
I recently bought 50mm for Fuji and i'm loving it. The main reason for me to gravitate more towards this type of lenses is that photographs feel different than taken on your phone for example. But I absolutely agree with the versatility of the 24mm. You made me think about purchasing one actually haha. Anyways, great video!
Picked up a Canon EF 24mm f/2.8 three weeks ago on eBay to experiment with. It has a permanent little spot in my bag, especially after hearing your perspective. Thanks!
It's a very different eye and mindset to shoot 24mm. I think I take for granted sometimes how hard it is to break out of that subject-priority tunnel vision, and shoot wider than 35mm well. If I hadn't forced the learning curve for framing things in and working a scene, rather than relying on my creative choices to help me exclude visual "clutter", I f never have levelled up my eye. It's easy to rely too much on bokeh, tight detail portrait framing, and even Black and White, etc. All that said: I have a lot of respect for people that can make anything wider than 35mm their do-it-all lens. 🙏
I don't shoot Sony so the gear part isn't super useful to me, but the context is top quality. I very much appreciate your insight. 👌 I was thinking of moving to a 16, 24, 35 prime set up. So I would be interested to hear your ideas on those. ✌️
Have you tried the Zeiss Batis 25mm F2? I've the Classic version of that lens and it has an incredible 3D pop/contrast/saturation if used wide open. I love it! Anyway, great video mate. I love your channel. Cheers! ✌
@@patkay Yeah, I can imagine it. I'm still thinking to switch completely from Panasonic to Sony just for the GM Prime lenses....they're pretty spectacular! See you in the next video ✌
My first lense was a 24mm GM. I used it a little but I can't wait to use it while traveling. I bought another 84mm from zeiss batiss and I find that the two really have the two focal ranges I would need most so I'm super happy
I’ve been shooting at 35mm which I had to force myself to like because I usually shoot at 16mm or 50mm I used the 24mm the other day visiting grandma for my birthday 🎉❤ and honestly it was just so sharp and so nice to have the extra versatility 😅 I do like the 35mm but the 24mm is just so nice I wasn’t expecting it tbh My question is, how do you choose what to bring with you? I bring the 16-35mm the 24-70mm the 28mm 35mm and 85mm and 70-200mm because I’m trying to find the one I like using so I just test them all out but I find myself using: 24-70mm mostly at 24mm 35mm If I had a 50mm I’d like that too But I force myself to use the 16-35mm 85mm and 70-200mm lens because it’s not something I’m comfortable with well 16-35mm I’ve over used that lens so I don’t mind So do you bring lenses with you or just one lens 😅and if you do pick a lens how do you pick what to bring and what to leave behind? Thank you for opening up the discussion I can shoot anything with a 50mm But with a 24mm + 85mm I can use that combo all day long 😊
i find that i'm bringing the 24 if i'm going to take portraits, or if i want a super duper light walkaround lens! otherwise, in most other cases, i'll be taking a zoom lens if just 1 body and 1 lens, or if i'm taking multiples, i'll always make sure to have at least one 1.4 lens with me, and usually that's the 24 first and foremost, then probably the 85 after that. it just really kind of varies depending on the situation! no right or wrong, just takes a lot of experimentation to find what you like :)
@@patkay good to hear there’s no wrong answer to use! Thank you for everything I will always have fun experimenting It’s almost like I feel like I’ll miss the experience or the moment by not bringing it all but I often never use it anymore but I like the trial and error aspect!
I currently own a 1635GM and 24GM. and im planning sell one to get the 2470GMii. i rarely took both the 1635 and 24 are mostly on the shelf. which one youd recommend me to sell? thankss!
depends on what kind of photography you do! if i had to pick one personally i'd keep the 1635GM though, but that's just because of the types of photography that i find myself doing regularly
@@patkay i mostly use it for video stuff. Like small ads and weddings. But i rarely pick up the 16-35 esp for weddings. Appreciate the help man! Thankyou!
Thanks for the video, Pat! You are making some great points. But how come you don‘t mention any third-party lenses? Surely there must be some decent options, right?
I don't think Pat uses any third party lenses other than the Sigma 85mm. I could be wrong though. Sigma just released a 24mm f1.4 that's definitely worth looking into if its within your budget
I’ve had the 24mm GM and the 85mm GM as my only lens. While the rest are either borrowed or rented to play with. Often times I end up taking for granted how powerful my 24mm is usually after playing with another lens. If you can do one of the 85mm or 50-55mm for entry photographers who really wants to do portrait bokeh (some do consider bokeh as overrated but it still will always serve a purpose), that would be cool Pat. Or doing with a more niche mm explanation would be awesome as well. My goal is to be the minimalist nomad photographer for as much utility/versatility with the least amount of lens for my particular style.
Hey Pat, great video. I use my 24GM in crop mode all the time on my A1 too. One thing you said is that that the 1.5x crop applies to the focal length and aperture, but my understanding is that it ONLY affects the focal length. The Aperture remains f1.4. Additionally, if you are shooting jpeg, you can do use Sony Clear Image zoom and get another 2x on top of that if you need making it very versatile.
It is true that the Aperture remains 1.4 on paper, but if you're in crop mode you have to step back a bit in order to fit your frame or subject to that cropped 24mm(equals to 36 something mm) focal. With that said, if you step back from a subject, your bokeh blur gets slightly clearer as if that f1.4 is equal to an f2.1. I hope that makes sense, and also CMIIW.
I think 35mm (full-frame) is the best universal lens except for wildlife/sports. 24mm could be too wide in some situations and portraits gets easily distorted.
I agree I find with 24gm on A7iv im always punched into apsc mode, it just looks so much better. I like the non-distortion of things on the edge and really I have a 24-105g for the wider shots if I need versatility
Great video! Just consider the fact that the focal lenght "conversion" doensn't affect the f-stop at all when using the APS-C mode on a FF camera or even using it on an APS-C camera. In fact, the only thing that's actually changing is how much of the viewing angle the camera capture of that original focal, because the distortion and so on keep being the same. If it's a 24mm, it will be a 24mm, but just with a cropped viewing angle.
as the subject moves closer or further away from the lens, the depth of field changes. it may not affect the f stop in terms of how much light is hitting the sensor but it does affect the depth of field. I think thats why some people do include the f stop in the conversion of ff to apsc
i know, but it also depends on how you think about it and want to communicate it. replicating the same field of view one vs the other will lead to a f2.1-like depth of field from f1.4, all things compariable. this is always on my mind whenever i'm using the mode because i'm thinking about the field of view in that way; just how i choose to talk about it i guess
Pat, you enjoy using the 24mm 1.4 GM & 16mm-35mm 2.8GM. It would be nice to have your take on the 14mm 1.4 GM or 12mm-24mm 2.8 GM. Great video and explanation!
I have the Sigma 16mm for A6400 (24mm equiv) and I barely use it because I am a coward and want the zoom 'just in case'. Now I have seen your video I am going out with just that lens tomorrow and having a 24mm day out!
Weird, I was about to comment almost the same! I also have the 16mm Sigma for my a6400, and also have struggled to use it. Thought multiple times about selling it. Seeing what Pat can do with 24 is inspiring!
@@kevink7453 I shall probably cheat by going into the woods and using a tripod to get some woodland landscapes. I'll save street photos for another day!
I got the Sigma 24mm f1.4 Art - the "old" heavy HSM version for my Sony camera. Sharp, great image quality and build quality, but heavy as h*ll. Also got the straight opposite regarding size and weight; the Samyang 24mm f1.8. Also great lens. I used 24mm more when I only shot photos with phone. Now i tend to use longer focal lengths. But 24mm great for landscapes and environmental portraits.
I like this video because I have just sold my Tamron 28-75mm F2.8 G2 for the Sony 24mm f1.4 GM lens. It is true that is prime lens is so versatile, and also good for beginers. Haha
What do you think of this lens vs the 35mm which you previously ranked higher on your tier list video? I was thinking of getting the 35mm equivalent for APS-C since "it just works". Very similar to how a shooting portraits with 50mm feels to me. Just shoot something decent and it would automatically turn awesome. 24mm looks so good when you get it right but feels like it has a much steeper learning curve for a beginner like me. It's hard to take a photo of something without it turning out to be like something the average person would just take with their phone. In the rare chance that I do get that one photo, it does really look like a work of art. I was almost set on getting the Sigma 16mm (24m eq.) on the APS-C but I'm now a bit hesitant after messing around with my kitlens and more than half the photos not looking how I wanted it to be.
24mm looks great but with the Sony I find I have distortion in the edges of grime like straight edges and horizon arnt straight. I recommend 35mm Or try 24mm on A7iv, I find myself always punched into apsc mode as I like the non distortion better and more focus on subject
Very interesting video Pat. Most of my shooting is probably tighter than even 35mm. I have both Sony GM's 12-24 and 24-70, so my pick for a future video is 12 mm. Thanks for all the info and entertainment.
As you said, 24mm is very versatile focal length. I’ve used it to take photos of cityscapes, fireworks, portraits, and even used it at a couple of weddings.
I really want to buy the 24mm package lens but what I've read is that I won't really get the benefits in imagine quality of that lens on my sony a7rv true or not true lol I'm confused
Hi great video. I right now thinking to buy 16-35 gm but because Sony made the 2 generation for the 24-70 and the 70-200 probably they will get the 16-35 gm 2 generation to so I am waiting
You persuaded me, Pat. I fished out my Super Multi-Coated Takumar 24 and put it on my Sony a7II. I have another 24 that's a lot of fun, a very close focusing Macro-Revuenon 24mm f4 made by the now defunct German lensmaker, Enna Munchen. You might want to look for one. I had a Zeiss Distagon 24mm f2, but it was stolen last year. 40mm is my favorite focal length.
For me 24mm on a full frame camera is a little bit too wide, I’m still having troubles framing the shot with such a wide angle. I’ve got a vintage 24mm 2.0 lens, I think that I need to use it more.
I have the Canon 11-24 f4.0 and guess what, I just love doing portraits with it. The fact that it distorts so much just makes my picture so much more interesting.
My first lens ever was the nikkor 24mm 1.8. After swapping tk Sony, the first lens I acquired was the 24mm 1.4. Though I love the 24mm, I’ve been using the 16-35 GM almost all of the time now, but I do miss the ability to stop to 1.4 over 2.8
Great video thanks brother! I'm interested in a Panasonic 24 mm f1.8. If I crop into APS-C mode, what aperture will that be and would it be usable for cinematic shots? Thanks, I appreciate it!
Great video! I'd love to hear your thoughts on the 35mm focal length. And also the 16-35 f4 for a hobbyist/traveler/beginner as an alternative to the 16-35 f2.8 that I know you love.
I recently got a copy of the 24GM. Indeed it’s a great lens. As u said, very versatile, light and sharp!! it’s now my go to lens !! thanks for the great video 👍
hmm, I actually hated 24mm. I have the Sigma 16 1.4 for APSC and never used it, I am used to the 30mm (45mm FF), I’ll start and try forcing myself using it for a while. I feel anout the 45mm similar to you with the 24, just sometimes a bit too long, so I think 35 would be my absolute favourite focal length, havent tried it yet though
I have the sigma 30 f1.4 on APS-C and I find myself looking to get a wider focal length lens. 24 seems really good but I'm afraid it might be too similar to 30
