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Why the College You Get into Doesn't Matter 

Nina Wang
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@Lawrence_Zhou
@Lawrence_Zhou 3 года назад
How I dealt with my rejections: "Never need an Ivy, I am what the Ivies need" (inspired by The Weeknd and his Grammy snub)
@a.j_lifetimea.j6494
@a.j_lifetimea.j6494 3 года назад
Hahaha I think I love u 🤣
@halamoheid9650
@halamoheid9650 3 года назад
This comment is amazing 👏🏾👏🏾😂
@dez-m
@dez-m 3 года назад
YOH, I love the Weeknd!!!!
@gracejuice
@gracejuice 3 года назад
ok go off val
@JoannaRoxanne
@JoannaRoxanne 3 года назад
Hahaha yesss!!
@Theartofattention
@Theartofattention 3 года назад
i was a straight A student and i still hold the belief that - school does not show who's smart, but rather school shows who's good at school.
@McFlashh
@McFlashh 2 года назад
Wise words.
@ninjapirate123
@ninjapirate123 Год назад
School just tests how good a students memory is and how long a student has studied for a test or an exam, but that alone doesn't mean a student is smart
@madebyymira
@madebyymira 3 года назад
totally agree, i didn’t get into my “dream” school and thought it would totally change the trajectory of my education and career. three years in and i’ll be interning at one of my dream companies- and to be honest 80% of what got me there was self learning and being proactive, so i totally agree the college u pick isn’t really as important as u may think
@issaccoltman6249
@issaccoltman6249 3 года назад
The legal profession DEFINITELY cares about what school you went to, so that’s an asterisk.
@ForTomorrowToday
@ForTomorrowToday 3 года назад
B schools as well
@juliyam5539
@juliyam5539 3 года назад
the law school matters more than undergrad college
@priyanka4531
@priyanka4531 3 года назад
This is not true. The legal profession primarily only cares about what grad school NOT what college.
@sawsy3863
@sawsy3863 3 года назад
@@priyanka4531 depends on what you do, maybe that'd be true for Med or Law school. But sometimes if you go to an IVY you can get a high level job straight out of undergrad.
@richardberman6694
@richardberman6694 3 года назад
Not in the least bit. Where you went to undergrad matters 0 for legal profession. Law school matters more and even then where you went to law school is hardly a good determining factor of success. I know a ton of Yale and Columbia law grads that eat Ramen for dinner and scrape by in their 18 hour sweat shop jobs while others know how to bring in clients and run a law firm on their own and are buying mansions in Miami and Park City Utah.
@DanielAjayi
@DanielAjayi 3 года назад
"colleges are a business" _PREACHHHHHH_
@patricksedjro1764
@patricksedjro1764 3 года назад
👍🏿
@aleahrosner453
@aleahrosner453 3 года назад
This video means SO MUCH to me nina. I'm a junior going to a SUPER competitive high school where there is a lot of pressure to get into a "good" school. I really appreciate that you shared your experience with the doctor bc it showed me that I can be successful without an ivy (or equivalent) degree. Thank you xx
@jennifermelton4147
@jennifermelton4147 3 года назад
This was my story. At the time, I called my school, "the pressure cooker." One year the school had more suicides than other schools in the nation and almost made it to Time. They consistently had more national merit scholars than any other school in the state. Many students got into the top schools. A few of us went to a selective liberal arts college. This liberal arts college and others literally recruited from my high school. Near college exams, I remember quietly talking to one of my former high school classmates. I commented that I did not fully realize how much more prepared we were for college. Students from other schools stressed about how writing in college was something new. Meanwhile, my friend and I discussed how it was very similar to high school, especially the longer typed papers. It took us less time to complete the assignments than it did for college students from other high schools. Although it was intense to be at that high school, we were ultimately grateful for what we had going into college. Yes, it was literally decades before I made it to an ivy. That said, I value my experience at an ivy. Perhaps you can meet those same people elsewhere and have an opportunity to see some of those same journal articles. However, apart from an honors college and/or a very good professor, they are hard to duplicate. Just like our high schools, the challenge, rigor, and community are priceless. There is a reason that some schools are better, and ivies are no exception. Good luck in your education journey!
@jennywrong3031
@jennywrong3031 3 года назад
you sitting in your MIT dorm talking about how the colleges you go to don’t matter gives off the same energy as celebrities sitting in their mansion talking about it’s okay we can just all stay home and get over covid!
@zl473
@zl473 3 года назад
THIS
@thyla3112
@thyla3112 3 года назад
OMG LITERALLY like i love nina but she will NEVER personally know / experience if going to a certain college matters or not!! you literally go to mit, you won’t know if going to a low ranking school matters or not because you don’t have the experience 😭😭 this video is wild
@jennywrong3031
@jennywrong3031 3 года назад
@@thyla3112 I know! especially since she lives off her youtube life on everything surrounding MIT & elite colleges & stats and everything so it is SO hypocritical for her to be saying this.
@urmanascrewed
@urmanascrewed 3 года назад
I got that same impression at first, but after listening to her arguments I think they are good points and will hopefully chill some people out.
@amandarey8368
@amandarey8368 3 года назад
u can also reverse it and say that since she's been to a top US university she knows the value and experience of going to higher-ranked college better than those who don't go and it can also make her opinion more reliable since her experience is more broadened. the coin the be flipped either which way but in the end college doesn't matter 2 much
@aparajitanandi8257
@aparajitanandi8257 3 года назад
Girl! You got a lot of courage! I'm an undergrad student from India and if I'd speak such things about my university or other universities, I'd have got cancelled 😶😶😶😶
@guywithakeyboard
@guywithakeyboard 3 года назад
True. You've cheated the taxpayers, etc. tags would be attached
@astradewoodvale159
@astradewoodvale159 3 года назад
Same thing here in the Philippines. The top university here is public and it’s known for it’s activism. Whenever you try to protest for civil rights you always get tagged as a communist and that you’re wasting tax payer money even though this is the most globs competitive school in the country.
@_ashmason007
@_ashmason007 2 года назад
I- same. Prestigious universities here are the dream of millions of students. One word against them, and you'd see angry students canceling you out 👀
@Vim_Tim
@Vim_Tim 3 года назад
I don’t think most students go to college to get an education: they go to become qualified for a desirable job first, and the “college experience” second. As you mentioned, education itself can be achieved online for free.
@goofygoober6211
@goofygoober6211 3 года назад
unfortunately I think the primary motive behind attending college is to receive the degree because of the fact that so many employers require degrees, and the more “prestigious” the school that you went to, the more likely they are to give you the job. I, personally, wouldn’t even be attending college at all if it weren’t for this stupid requirement. Because, yes, you can learn everything online for free. I’m not trying to undermine anyone’s hard work or time and effort spent working towards their degrees, but possessing one doesn’t necessarily make one smarter than if they learned everything without spending an extraordinary amount of money for an education one can receive online.
@sirrosalina2736
@sirrosalina2736 3 года назад
Not knowing what college you wanna go to at 18 is literally so true. Especially becomes information comes from the university themselves, so like especially as a business, they have an implicit bias to only show us their strongest or twist their words to be better right. So it's really hard to like, personally experience the university yourself until you're there.
@abhaharne945
@abhaharne945 3 года назад
I'm going to be attending college at 17😭
@sirrosalina2736
@sirrosalina2736 3 года назад
@@abhaharne945 that's so cool though!
@abhaharne945
@abhaharne945 3 года назад
@@sirrosalina2736 what about it😂
@sirrosalina2736
@sirrosalina2736 3 года назад
@@abhaharne945 idk I just think it's cool ur going to college at 17 lol
@JJ-dx6eb
@JJ-dx6eb 3 года назад
@@abhaharne945 late birthday things😩
@jonathanpark8182
@jonathanpark8182 3 года назад
The name recognition (reputation) thing is so much more true in Korea, it's kind of scary. All of the students here live to only get into the top 3 colleges in the country, or an ivy league in america
@jeffreyugochukwu1942
@jeffreyugochukwu1942 3 года назад
I definitely agree with the "going to a good college != getting a good job" argument because in all honesty, college is still what you make of it no matter where you go. Yeah, it's pretty true that recruiters have a higher selection bias towards people that went to higher ranked schools by the assumption that they're "smarter" due to having the academic stats to get into their university, but at the end of the day, getting the job offer is based on if you can pass an interview and have relevant experience. You're not only competing against people that went to certain schools, but you're also competing against other people that have more work experience/project experience for that position, so focusing more on the experience portion of your resume will help you out a lot n the long term. From personal experience, I am a UC Davis student and even though it's a mid-tier UC that's not as "prestigious" as other UC's ranked higher than it (i.e. UC Berkeley and UCLA) or even very competitive private schools/Ivy Leagues, I still have received many great opportunities in my career path and it's still a decently competitive university to get into with a lot of research opportunities. Throughout my 3 years spent in networking and doing experiences outside of the classroom, I was able to get opportunities such as being a Facebook 2020 Data Challenge finalist which lead me to getting interview offers at high ranked tech and finance companies that lead to my internship offer at the Federal Reserve Bank of San Francisco, and I was accepted as a research fellow in the MURPPS research program at the university which led me to get an interview offer for a Bioinformatics research position at the university. Even though I didn't go to the best ranked school in undergrad, I was still able to get these opportunities through hard work and developing my skills (to give more context, UC Davis is more known for science research since we have better funding in that area, so it has more of a "Wow!" factor within that segment compared to other fields; so recruiter bias for those that want to go into tech/finance/engineering might be lower compared to other schools). Long story short: it's not about how your university can give you opportunities in your career path, it's about how YOU can make those opportunities for yourself.
@vanessa40834
@vanessa40834 3 года назад
My university would literally link public youtube videos from community colleges for us to watch instead of just teaching us. What post-secondary education you go to really does not determine how "good" the education is (just go to a community college and save your money). also can we acknowledge how Nina got princess polly to sponsor a sit-down video of her just talking about college admission
@thejcheneats
@thejcheneats 3 года назад
I recently graduated from college a few weeks ago and I can definitely attest to everything you mentioned in this video. It is not really about the college you get into rather it is the experiences and opportunities you create for yourself no matter where you go.
@GarbageMan144
@GarbageMan144 3 года назад
Don't be afraid to do a community college first, or taking a gap year to think about what you want to study. If you're not sure what you wanna do, at least narrow it down to a few subjects, so if you wanna explore what you wanna study IN college, a lot of the classes you take will still fulfill other rmajor requirements. I'd still recommend not attending until you have something set in stone, because that leads to the least likely chance of time and money being wasted. Also, don't be afraid to do trade school or technical schools if college doesn't go well, it's not for everyone.
@sophiefu7
@sophiefu7 3 года назад
Nina you’re so well spoken! I have always thought about attending a good college all my life, but this video has certainly opened up my mind. While I still want to try my hardest in high school, I have learned to consider life in a different perspective ☺️
@shxronp8966
@shxronp8966 3 года назад
i don't live in the us but here in belgium we kind of are expected to decide what we want to do at 14. our high schools use a system similar to majors which means you get general education and classes based on the "major" you chose. i did graphic design in highschool for example. the problem is that we don't get to experiment with other classes outside our "major" and in 12th grade when you decide what to do in university/college teachers pressure you to just do what you did in high school which is why a lot of us choose the wrong college major. this is why i took a gap year (turned into two years because of covid) to really take my time to decide and now i'm starting uni in september majoring in archaeology, totally different from what i did in high school (graphic design). i'll be 20 but at least i know what i actually want now and not what my teachers expect me to do. many of my friends who did enter uni/college right away are thinking about or have already switched majors, it's a big issue here lol
@earlgreymilktae
@earlgreymilktae 3 года назад
that system sounds pretty flawed. I’m glad you were able to find something that worked better for you, though! good luck to you in your studies :)
@seowholesome
@seowholesome 3 года назад
im prob one of the many who got denied from my dream ivy league schools, but over the past months since early decisions came out, i learned and trained myself to not let the name of the school define who i am. i found the college that i wanted to go to, and i’m proud of my decision:) edit: hope that piece of advice helps lift some of that burden. it’s a tough time for all of us, but there’s more to life than just a school. things happen for a reason, and who knows, maybe that particular college that you chose is the one that is meant for you. enjoy the rest of y’all’s school years!
@adelaideellis9850
@adelaideellis9850 3 года назад
out of curiosity, where are you going?
@seowholesome
@seowholesome 3 года назад
@@adelaideellis9850 hello! im attending the honors college at rutgers university. apparently it’s supposed to be amazing and different from the honors program, but that’s besides the point lol. how about you?
@adelaideellis9850
@adelaideellis9850 3 года назад
@@seowholesome im only in eighth grade lol! congratulations though!
@seowholesome
@seowholesome 3 года назад
@@adelaideellis9850 thank you!
@adelaideellis9850
@adelaideellis9850 3 года назад
@@seowholesome of course, good luck!
@user-qb1xc1kl8o
@user-qb1xc1kl8o 3 года назад
Funny that she said the college you get into doesn't matter when the majority of her videos is about student life at MIT. Trying making videos at a community college and see how many views that she will get. So she makes a lot of money off the MIT brand.
@Traumatised311
@Traumatised311 3 года назад
Ikr, nobody would watch or even notice if she went to a normal college, evryone wants to know what life at MIT is like
@sharonelias4873
@sharonelias4873 3 года назад
You make the university, the university doesn't make you. It's a phrase I live by. I'm a med student from Mexico and in the state I live, I didn't even pass the initial exam (completely flawed exam) from the "popular and good university" and my teachers were all shocked. I ended up going to a private med school and yep, I have encountered students from the other uni and have been 100% better than them It's just the name. Can totally agree with Nina
@daedaldan
@daedaldan 3 года назад
Looking for a comment from a LSU student whose personal health and well-being has been enhanced by the lazy river... Can’t find it :(
@vishakhasingh5295
@vishakhasingh5295 3 года назад
Got rejected from 17/17 universities and I'm happy after watching this video
@AydanJane
@AydanJane 3 года назад
YES! Thank you for making this!! We need to have this conversation more and more people need to hear this!
@ginwillows906
@ginwillows906 3 года назад
This gives me similar vibes just like when celebrities staying inside their multi-million dollar mansion with a theater and bowling alley goes --> We ARe In THis TogEthEr Y'All. StaY iN YouR HouSe.
@rashaud99
@rashaud99 3 года назад
This is a very insightful video. I don't know you, but I like your videos. You're very intelligent and attractive. I know you go to THE ULTIMATE SCHOOL in MIT, but you're still so down to earth. You're right though. I work for a Fortune 500 company. Although a few of the schools our execs went to were "top tier", many of them were "regular" schools" as well. It all depends on your game plan and work ethic.
@amaar1841
@amaar1841 3 года назад
Not to mention how messed up applications was this year because of there being covid
@patricksedjro1764
@patricksedjro1764 3 года назад
This bullshit virus. Doctors just make their money from the mri scan, which is super inflated. For scheduled appointments Only
@Tei_022
@Tei_022 3 года назад
I’m nearly a sophomore in high school right now, and I don’t have a dream college or something like that like other people my age do. I think after watching this video, it makes me feel better that I actually don’t have one. I just want a college that like.. suits my needs. Idk what job I wanna do yet but probably something in the science field but I feel like I need a college to change my major multiple times lol. I used to not like the idea of me going college (because I hate the idea of 4+ more years of education and also like the whole being smart thing to get into good colleges) despite my kinda good grades and extra curricular stuff, I dunno, this video made me feel a lot better about it tho
@sawsy3863
@sawsy3863 3 года назад
says the MIT student.. :/
@caromela2031
@caromela2031 3 года назад
I haven’t even gotten to the 2 minute make yet but I just want to put some of my thoughts down on the topic- I remember something that happened right after my freshman year ended where all of my highschool friends reconvened and we were talking about GPAs and grades. I said that I had a 4.0 and one of my friends responded “Well that’s because you go to ____ university”. He went (we just graduated) to a fairly prestigious university. Not an ivy, but a school that is fairly well known. I also get looked down on for majoring in Spanish and Hispanic lit and people often have the perception that if you aren’t in stem you don’t work as hard, or that you “have it easier”. I feel like the challenges in every field are different and no ones hard work should be negated. No one should feel unworthy just because their university isn’t “prestigious” or well known, especially considering the issues of accessibility in higher ed.
@larohe
@larohe 3 года назад
ok but she looks so good here
@ellachristiansen1846
@ellachristiansen1846 3 года назад
people put so much weird pressure on students to go to the "best school" for their image and not the best school for them. I had a counselor suggest i go 200 thousand in debt to attend Columbia rather than pay in-state tuition AND go to a better program at UCLA. tldr work hard and dont let the college decision hype affect your self-worth
@isabs5838
@isabs5838 3 года назад
I go to a college that is considered the "golden standard" for medicine education in my country and some of my friends that just entered med school are kinda unhappy with their achievements bc it wasn't this one in particular. I've seen a lot of good professionals from other places just (or more) as qualified as the ones who graduated at my university, it's definitely something more related to the person itself and not much about the place specifically. Anyway, Nina, thx for this.
@patricksedjro1764
@patricksedjro1764 3 года назад
What is the point of going to a hospital, if all they do is ice and a bandade. And do not accept your insurance. Anyone can make ice in their own house.
@Hana-vj6cs
@Hana-vj6cs 3 года назад
I mean my dream is to go to a good college and my parents know that, so every time I'm lazy and don't want to do my hw right when the weekend starts my father he is like: "OHHH, YOU KNOW THAT IF U DO LIKE THIS U R NOT GOING TO A GOOD SCHOOL, SO START STUDYING!!". I think that probably if it's gonna b like that I'm definitely not going to a good college, never. PERIODT
@Jessica-ss3kk
@Jessica-ss3kk 3 года назад
thank you so much for this video - hs senior here and it definitely helped. thanks!!
@hg4914
@hg4914 3 года назад
Coming from an MIT student..... 😂
@sweetdreams9700
@sweetdreams9700 3 года назад
Makes it more credible.
@averageems
@averageems 3 года назад
I think because she goes to a top school, she has more insight into how high-priced schools operate. Like Sweet Dreams said, it makes her more credible.
@mrowl9969
@mrowl9969 3 года назад
@@sweetdreams9700 Not at all, she's a college sophomore with none or very little real world experience and she even admits the networking is much better and critical for certain and popular fields, so where you go for college can matter a ton which is widely known already... Just an aside, I am curious what you do for a living?
@sweetdreams9700
@sweetdreams9700 3 года назад
@@mrowl9969 it makes it more credible because she goes to a top-tier school and is criticizing those same institutions. I never said that her claims are right although I know that some of them are (not including the claim that the college you go to doesn’t matter).
@priyanka4531
@priyanka4531 3 года назад
@@sweetdreams9700 that’s literally the opposite of credible though...make it make sense?? her statements are not at all credible because she’s sitting on her high horse at MIT and she’ll never know what its like to be at a CC or lesser ranked institution This would be credible if someone from a CC or lesser ranked college was talking. Not the girl who goes to MIT and whose whole platform only exists because she flashes the MIT brand name 24/7.
@Celeritate7
@Celeritate7 3 года назад
TRUEING dude. On that topic I highly recommend the 2014 documentary "Ivory Tower".
@karagardiner1647
@karagardiner1647 3 года назад
i really appreciated this video. im a senior and got waitlisted at my "dream" school which is a "good" school and this just made me feel sm better :')
@juliab.8911
@juliab.8911 3 года назад
As someone who struggles to not let my grades/college define my intelligence this video was great. Also sharing this with my friends, thank you
@S0FIAV
@S0FIAV 3 года назад
-said the MIT girl
@rileychong6853
@rileychong6853 3 года назад
this vid literally gave a revelation that i don't have to go to harvard LMAOOO
@patricksedjro1764
@patricksedjro1764 3 года назад
Ever watched Good Will Hunting. That should give you an idea of perspective
@heatheralisa8658
@heatheralisa8658 3 года назад
I applied to only one college and it was my state college which is a pretty good one and I didn’t really care about going to a huge college that costs a lot of money
@queenkami99
@queenkami99 3 года назад
My grandma always said, the best school is the one that accepts you
@aprilmouse8793
@aprilmouse8793 3 года назад
Love this, my college bound daughter and I were talking about this today. Would love to hear your thoughts on whether or not it’s worth it to strive to be in honors in college.
@Peter-wh1cs
@Peter-wh1cs 3 года назад
I work in a university and I can tell you that if a student can get into an honors program, they should definitely do so. There are tuition waivers, funding for research, independent study, and study abroad. There is focused advising and opportunities to work with faculty on projects. It is a guaranteed pathway to a superb graduate program.
@aprilmouse8793
@aprilmouse8793 3 года назад
@@Peter-wh1cs Good to know, thank you!
@aryansinha7777
@aryansinha7777 3 года назад
This video is *really* great! Thank you so much Nina! ❤️
@nicholasn.2883
@nicholasn.2883 3 года назад
8:20 LMAO this was me! I had to crash, burn, explode, and then get pandemic’d to finally put the message together
@ericaalbert1024
@ericaalbert1024 3 года назад
As a very grateful ivy reject, I got you on the name recognition thing, I did the same :(
@alexp2488
@alexp2488 2 года назад
she’s so pretty
@ryno4hof1
@ryno4hof1 2 года назад
I mostly agree with what was said in this video and certainly the premise of it. One thing I want to note about the, "the school you go to doesn't matter, it's only a name" point is that the name can and is used as a filter for job applicants. Are the top 1% of students at the local state university as qualified as the top 25% of students at MIT? Almost certainly. But, also, the average student at MIT is WAY more qualified than the average student at the local state university. So, if you're an employer and you are trying to mitigate the risk of hiring a bad employee, you are going to go with a name school because the chances of getting a below average student are so much lower. Also, alumni like to hire fellow alums and this is a self-perpetuating model where people from good schools get put into better positions and they, in turn, hire fellow alums into good positions, and so on. It is hard to break this model that's been in place for decades. Otherwise, I agree with the majority of the points made by Nina and think it is great information for people at this stage of their lives... I just wanted to add a little more perspective from someone who is in the working world :)
@bedeoconnell2445
@bedeoconnell2445 3 года назад
Omg! Such an amazing video!
@biancalucia8388
@biancalucia8388 3 года назад
Also depends on your major and networking . Some majors are worthless.
@lawsonashurst7314
@lawsonashurst7314 3 года назад
Sure not all majors lead to jobs directly, but that is not the point of the University system. The point of universities is to conduct research and educate students with a broad liberal arts curriculum. It is not a job training site. If you want job training then you should go to a technical school. However, This isn't at all knocking technical schools, I think they are extremely important and a very valuable thing to have in today's society. Not to mention, just having a bachelor's degree drastically boosts your lifetime earnings, and if you are still extremely worried about debt then you shouldn't attend super stuffy private schools that give nothing in scholarships, and go to your local land grant uni with in state tuition. College is far from some worthless investment even if you get an obscure degree and really all empirical data points to college being one of the best investments you can make in terms of future earnings. If you want job training then you should go to a technical school. However, This isn't at all knocking technical schools, I think they are extremely important and a very valuable thing to have in today's society.
@patricksedjro1764
@patricksedjro1764 3 года назад
@@lawsonashurst7314 so how can you link being in debt to future earnings.
@lawsonashurst7314
@lawsonashurst7314 3 года назад
@@patricksedjro1764 It's simple, employers like people who are "educated" and people who come from a liberal arts background, since they have developed a multitude of what I like to call "soft skills" (communication, teamwork, research prowess, writing, etc) and since employers ultimately look for people who are not single faceted, but have a vested interest in multiple things. All research done on the subjects of earning by education level point to college being a return on investment. Here is data on the subject: www.northeastern.edu/bachelors-completion/news/average-salary-by-education-level/ www.bls.gov/careeroutlook/2018/data-on-display/education-pays.htm www.bls.gov/emp/chart-unemployment-earnings-education.htm www.ssa.gov/policy/docs/research-summaries/education-earnings.html And judging by some of your other comments you are a big fan of community colleges, which I am too. In fact, I value community college so much to the point that I am signing up for classes at my local CC to get extra general education credits out of the way as I am a double major in Music and Economics. Many community colleges have started offering bachelors degrees, and for the ones that don't, you can use it as a cheaper was to get a bachelors degree at a traditional 4 year school. Many states offer programs that allow you to spend 2 years at a CC for free getting other credits out of the way to then transfer to an in state 4 year school and finish up your degree. If I wasn't blessed with a very good scholarship that is what I would've done. To finish off, college is not nearly as expensive people make it out to be. There are so many relatively inexpensive colleges you can go to that offer you big scholarships or help with loans. The school I attend (Mississippi State University) gives me almost $18k in scholarships, which is a full ride to study music, and it isn't just limited to the extraordinary, I know numerous people who have very generous packages who were fairly mediocre students. I love education, and our society runs off of educated people.
@jamiesauras7857
@jamiesauras7857 3 года назад
@@lawsonashurst7314 Thanks for this super informative comment, but I think all this eventually depends on what degree you're pursuing. I don't think I'll be even hired for a job, let alone able to earn much with a liberal arts degree.
@lawsonashurst7314
@lawsonashurst7314 3 года назад
@@jamiesauras7857 I mean sure, you'll likely find better employment opportunities with specific degrees, however, not everyone can, or wants to work those specific jobs. Just because you are not working in the specific field of your degree doesn't inherently make it worthless. There are many instances where people working in blue collar industries will be put up for promotion faster than others because they have a degree. Another example would be the military, where you are required to have a bachelors degree if you want to be a Commissioned Officer (many colleges also have ROTC programs that provide full ride scholarships if you commit to service). While I may be studying one of those more advantageous subjects (Economics, however I am also double majoring in music performance), I still wholeheartedly believe in the Liberal Arts Curriculum being a necessary and vital part of collegiate education. I hope everyone has the ability to get a degree, whether that be in STEM, business, finance, etc, or an obscure art program.
@elizabethalton3451
@elizabethalton3451 3 года назад
When you got a college ad right before this... lol
@ankuragrawal420
@ankuragrawal420 3 года назад
Good points. But unless you are in MIT, you can't say MIT sucks. Most people covet these universities just for name recognition, not for educational value. Once you have been there, then you can say "Been there done that"
@_Mykasin_
@_Mykasin_ 3 года назад
I totally agree with this but as someone from a minority group and first gen. That name holds alot over anything. Networking is also easier in my own personal opinion because those universities tend to host companies in hiring fairs and such. I also agree with the sentiment that it's whatever you make of it in regards to your educational journey. In my experience with what major I want to transfer into its hard to find a school that has it and sometimes only the big name schools have it unfortunately.
@fdr2275
@fdr2275 3 года назад
To be fair, a famous school can always help you with the first job. Over the long run, it depends on many other factors.
@Twinkie_starr
@Twinkie_starr 2 года назад
The college you go to does matter , my uncle told me himself that you can go to any school you want but its all about what college your degree comes from
@Espressoomartyni
@Espressoomartyni 3 года назад
I've got rejected from all school that I applied to and idk how I feel
@muhammadzeeshan303
@muhammadzeeshan303 Год назад
Thank you for posting this!
@johnczech7074
@johnczech7074 3 года назад
Excellent! Great advice for young people!!
@victoragaba1783
@victoragaba1783 3 года назад
I agree with you on so many levels
@timwong580
@timwong580 2 года назад
So why did I get a fucked up work life even though I got into a easy School?
@kelvinleung1049
@kelvinleung1049 3 года назад
I agree with you that NOT going to a prestigious university doesn't necessarily limit your future career. Nonetheless, I disagree that it makes no difference. One fact: even years or decades after you graduated from college, people will still look at from where you obtained your bachelor's degree; Strangers you meet for the first time will still judge you by where you went and what you did. So a degree from a reputable college still opens door years/decade after graduation. Having graduated from a prestigious university gives people a head-start. Also, I disagree that universities are just businesses. If that is the case, why do they bother offering financial aids? Let's be pragmatic... a lot of prestigious universities are prestigious because they have a big endowment. That translates into resources and opportunities that they can provide to their students. Of course a college needs to make money to survive and sustain. One more thing: your college lectures are only a part of your college experiences--not its entirety. Simply offering the course content online to the public doesn't equate to providing the college learning experience for free.
@kelvinleung1049
@kelvinleung1049 3 года назад
so, all I have to say is: to those who did not get accepted into the colleges of their dreams, please don't let this deter you from excelling. This isn't the end of the world. As to those who get accepted to prestigious colleges such as MIT, be grateful, consider yourself fortunate and make best use of your time in it.
@salmaalmunayes4251
@salmaalmunayes4251 3 года назад
u explained this perfectly
@anahello4558
@anahello4558 3 года назад
I love the way you outlined this video :) its well done and presented. glad this was in my recommended I subscribed
@mattcoutinho4853
@mattcoutinho4853 3 года назад
FIRST FIRST like actually FIRST :) ps i love ninas videos
@sadiahossain9544
@sadiahossain9544 3 года назад
I want to go to a private college away from home but my parents want me to go to a CUNY college near home. Is that a bad idea?
@mrowl9969
@mrowl9969 3 года назад
what's the private college? that could be anywhere from an ivy league to an unranked private university lol
@ColinPlayzPianoC418Music
@ColinPlayzPianoC418Music 3 года назад
13:05 No actually I want to get money! lololol
@bedeoconnell2445
@bedeoconnell2445 3 года назад
Smart!
@luiscruz909
@luiscruz909 3 года назад
You should dye your hair black and cut it short 😱
@calculatortortilla6748
@calculatortortilla6748 3 года назад
I’m currently a sophomore in high school and I signed up for APUSH for my junior year but they wouldn’t let me take it because my English grade isn’t high enough. I’m planning to sign up for honors classes next year and hopefully AP my senior year, do I still have any chance of getting into an elite school? (My gpa is very good and I do a few extracurriculars)
@beambaapol
@beambaapol 3 года назад
I want a lazy river tho...
@OsirusIrdia
@OsirusIrdia 3 года назад
Bish wat u expect u hooked up then wanted a text back afterwards thats not how it works hunny. You don’t get relationships from hookups 😂😂😂 If I were him I woulda lead you on just to use your body more to teach you a lesson
@Traumatised311
@Traumatised311 3 года назад
Only ivy leaguers say such things
@kellyliu1210
@kellyliu1210 3 года назад
because most of degrees are equally useless.
@rohsei
@rohsei 3 года назад
💙💙💙
@joeychan3467
@joeychan3467 3 года назад
I would say that the Ivys don’t matter if i could get into one .
@filtrations
@filtrations 3 года назад
toxic
@arushiganwir9688
@arushiganwir9688 3 года назад
says the one who goes to MIT ://
@yaphethtadesse6667
@yaphethtadesse6667 3 года назад
First yayay
@jjjooe
@jjjooe 3 года назад
Many ridiculous opinions in this video... One should use statistics instead of individual cases as evidence for some general conclusions about whether going to a (good) college is worth it or using standardized tests are more useful than subjectively evaluating applicants...
@sweetdreams9700
@sweetdreams9700 3 года назад
That’s the fallacy fallacy. Just because her argument has a fallacy does not mean her claims are incorrect.
@toastedtiddies
@toastedtiddies 3 года назад
princess polly sells clothes so inexpensive they started to wonder how much the workers are paid
@leospicegirl
@leospicegirl 3 года назад
it’s all fast fashion
@태이씨
@태이씨 3 года назад
As an international student I say: my dream school is any school that offers me full-ride scholarship 😄 Even a rural community college in the us is much better than any Russian state school P.S. I absolutely love Reed College and will apply there for ED. I think I found my dream school. Update: I got waitlisted and then rejected 2 times. It's definitely the money issue because i got along well with the counselors and i have a high gpa and test scores. Utterly heartbreaking considering that other schools didn't give me anything at all. Now going onto my second gap.
@pinkvalley07
@pinkvalley07 3 года назад
DUDEE SAMEE!!! i dont even care wat uni i go to as long as i get a full scholarship then im good to go
@hussainismail2080
@hussainismail2080 3 года назад
Fair enough bro, same here😂
@tis_ace
@tis_ace 3 года назад
Yea who cares if its free and good education
@태이씨
@태이씨 3 года назад
@@tis_ace any American College is better than those in my country anyway
@tsionmesfin2608
@tsionmesfin2608 3 года назад
me tooo
@ntent1
@ntent1 3 года назад
nina i have ONE question: howd u become an intern at a hospital in high school
@tahiyatchy
@tahiyatchy 3 года назад
My cousin did that in High School as well 😔
@joshitanandakumar
@joshitanandakumar 3 года назад
you can search for local internships in your area - personally, i found the chegg internship website to be useful in finding internships! you can also email the hospitals near you and ask them if there are any internships available :)
@addisonb.1356
@addisonb.1356 3 года назад
Probably through tech school
@chelseyzarraga6020
@chelseyzarraga6020 3 года назад
How I dealt with my rejection: “ when you get what you want it’s God’s direction. When you don’t get what you want it’s God’s protection.” -Emptiness World. Tbh, I always tell this myself and I helped me A LOT when I saw my rejection letter. I thought to myself that He knows what’s best for me. He knew that I wasn’t going to be happy 😊
@ashtastiic
@ashtastiic 3 года назад
Definitely gonna use this as a wallpaper as a daily reminder for myself! I’m a transfer student who applied to transfer to Rice which isn’t considered an Ivy but here in my state, it’s a really great private school, anyways, I’m trying my best not to associate my worth with the acceptance or rejection letter that I’ll get from them in mid-May! Anyways, I wish you the best and God bless you! I know he has big plans and gifts in store for you :) 💕
@astradewoodvale159
@astradewoodvale159 3 года назад
So you basically do not have free will under your god? Lol
@ashtastiic
@ashtastiic 3 года назад
@@astradewoodvale159 What does that have to do with anything that she said? Why must you attack someone’s religion just because you dislike it? Please be more respectful and mature. Have a great rest of your day and God bless you! 💕
@theprettypaw4615
@theprettypaw4615 3 года назад
I’m not even that religious but this is so helpful. Thank you.
@theprettypaw4615
@theprettypaw4615 3 года назад
@@astradewoodvale159 we have free will under God lmao. Why would a god let people sin if he had control over them?? I think the person is more saying that God will try to guide you.
@theguildofsilence
@theguildofsilence 3 года назад
she says, sitting in her dorm at MIT
@ak-no2wo
@ak-no2wo 3 года назад
it really is crazy that you force literal teenagers to decide a path for the rest of their lives
@anjashull4558
@anjashull4558 3 года назад
I mean by 18 years old we should get our lives started. Most colleges also don't require you to declare a major until the end of sophomore year so that's like 20.
@toxicdubz3841
@toxicdubz3841 Год назад
your degree doesnt have to define you or your future
@HandsomeJigglypuff
@HandsomeJigglypuff Год назад
You can always change your career in the future or go to graduate school
@ginwillows906
@ginwillows906 3 года назад
Ironical how you're making this video while sitting inside your MIT dorm room ;)
@mith6849
@mith6849 3 года назад
This makes no fucking sense. If you really think your school doesn’t matter why are you at MIT?
@zl473
@zl473 3 года назад
you’re literally at mit LMAOOO
@brebreboling
@brebreboling 3 года назад
Watching everyone get into their dream school makes me happy for them but makes me feel like I failed.
@ann7375
@ann7375 3 года назад
i feeel this, u wanna feel happy for others successes but r consumed by ur own insecurities
@hwabubble7894
@hwabubble7894 3 года назад
Before applying to colleges this past fall, I didn't have a dream school. I wasn't sure about what I wanted to do in the future. I applied to 23 schools, mostly safety and "mid-tier" schools, and only got accepted into 8. I felt like I had disappointed everyone I knew because of my high school's culture/reputation of going to highly ranked colleges and my mental health suffered so much from it. Growing up in an Asian household didn't help either. I wish that I had someone reminding me that where I go for undergrad won't matter that much in the end. I wish I stopped and looked at my dad as an example. He immigrated, didn't go to an ivy, and studied for his degrees in a different language. Now, he's been working as a software engineer at Apple for 10 years! I think this video managed to lift some of the weight on my shoulders, but there's still quite a bit left as I try and figure out which one I should attend in the fall. I hope many more high school students watch this video and find comfort in knowing that getting rejected from any college isn't the end of the world.
@stellac.04
@stellac.04 3 года назад
hey!! really cool video and I know you’re probably just trying to get that bag but princess polly and other clothing brands that sell “trendy” clothes are really bad in terms of clothing waste, resource consumption of clothing production and also just push a high-consumption lifestyle... it would be cool if you looked into that seeing as environmental issues related to the fashion industry are super damaging (2nd in harmfulness only to the oil industry). just a suggestion
@yanwenqi4620
@yanwenqi4620 3 года назад
I totally agree with the money part. As an intentional student applying for colleges his year, I got accepted to ucsb but got rejected from Baylor simply because I turned in my financial aid form to Baylor so they did not think I am financially suitable for their school lol.
@kelvinleung1049
@kelvinleung1049 3 года назад
a few things you should first understand... UCSB is a public university. Much of its funding comes from the tax-payers of the state of California. They are really not obligated to pay for the tuition of an international student. Also, not that they don't want to give out financial aid to everyone who needs it, but they probably only have a finite amount to go around... so they have to pick and choose to whom they could fund. Sad as it may sound, international students needing aid may not be a public school's priority.
@yanwenqi4620
@yanwenqi4620 3 года назад
@@kelvinleung1049 lol ur right, but I was saying I got rejected from Baylor, which is a private uni, due to financial reasons
@kelvinleung1049
@kelvinleung1049 3 года назад
@@yanwenqi4620 sorry, read your message again, and realized I misinterpreted what you said. My bad. Nonetheless, what I said was still true... whether or not an international student gets sufficient aid from an institute depends on a lot of things... we shouldn't be looking at these colleges as money-grabbing evil corps.
@yanwenqi4620
@yanwenqi4620 3 года назад
@@kelvinleung1049 yes you are right :)
@mathiasroy2595
@mathiasroy2595 3 года назад
Why the college you get into doesn’t matter * goes to MIT *
@mrowl9969
@mrowl9969 3 года назад
Right, thank god we have a college sophomore with virtually no real world experience to tell us why where you go for college doesn't matter lmao
@hienta6008
@hienta6008 3 года назад
lol she went to a good school that's why she knows it's not worth it. U gotta go through it to know what it's really like u know.
@hienta6008
@hienta6008 3 года назад
@@mrowl9969 well she had her experience and she is telling it how she sees it so you are not in any place to disregard her opinions and say that she “doesnt have any knowledge of the real world,” even though you are also entitled to your own opinion on this topic. According to you, you got an education from a top tier school so i guess you should know better than to disrepect others’ opinions like that lol.
@allielee
@allielee 3 года назад
sounds like someone didn't watch the video !
@m.josena4485
@m.josena4485 3 года назад
Well there are others here who do have life experience so maybe she is right :)
@alexdelta57
@alexdelta57 3 года назад
After a fairly tough college admissions season, this definitely motivated me. I appreciate this!
@patricksedjro1764
@patricksedjro1764 3 года назад
How much did you pay to take the SAT. It was $30 when I was younger. Like a decade age. I saw that the price has increased to $60. I don't know who works within the college board, but do they not see the amount of people burning their degrees or paperwork, so instead of decreasing the cost of the exam, they do the complete opposite.
@kayawonaike
@kayawonaike 3 года назад
Soo true nina, especially undergrad the type of college you go to doesn't really matter. If you're going to grad school or even interning you don't need that "ivy league school" name on your resume to be successful.
@patricksedjro1764
@patricksedjro1764 3 года назад
More like the complete opposite is true. Some of the most successful people were all drop outs.
@hannahchoi9676
@hannahchoi9676 3 года назад
I was feeling really down about not getting into my top choices, but after meeting people that are going into the same program as me and learning more about the school, I'm really excited for the fall. This video was super helpful! :)
@emargent
@emargent 3 года назад
As someone who didn’t get into my dream school and then wound up transferring a few times and ended up falling in love with a small state school I can definitely say that I agree with what Nina said. Obviously there are going to be exceptions because there always are but I think the main point is just if you didn’t get into your dream school it doesn’t mean that your life is over or that you won’t be successful it just means you didn’t fit whatever criteria they were using that year and that’s fine
@jakerodriguez3995
@jakerodriguez3995 3 года назад
Even if the SAT is a perfect measure of intelligence, intelligence still usually doesn't make up all of someones success. In America there are plenty of people that are not very smart that are making great livings and living amazing lives. Maybe it matters more if you're trying to go to MIT and compete in the tournament that is our higher education system, but there's still plenty of value you can bring to the world if you're not a 90th+ percentile intelligence person.
@sweetdreams9700
@sweetdreams9700 3 года назад
The SAT is not a measure of intelligence.
@matiascontreras8597
@matiascontreras8597 3 года назад
Nope, the SAT is not even close to be a perfect measure of intelligence.
@ulisesescorza3323
@ulisesescorza3323 3 года назад
That's why he's using the words "Even if..."
@jakerodriguez3995
@jakerodriguez3995 3 года назад
​@@ulisesescorza3323 I'm glad you caught the "Even if." After reading the replies I was worried that I might've hidden it too well at the very beginning of my comment.
@kelvinleung1049
@kelvinleung1049 3 года назад
standardized tests are never a definitive measure of one's ability to do well academically... admissions officers of prestigious universities know. That's why you often see kids with perfect scores not being accepted, while another kid with imperfect scores getting accepted. Good admissions officers look more holistically on the applicants--to see if they add to the campus, can handle the workload and a good fit. They don't just admit applicants solely depending on their standardized test scores.
@rydhamgoyal722
@rydhamgoyal722 3 года назад
As a struggling and stressed international student hoping to get into university at the US, thank you so much for the insight!! I feel better now 🤩❤️
@bee-bc3yj
@bee-bc3yj 3 года назад
i got into uc berkeley (my dream school) but it was too expensive for out of state so i passed it up for my cheapest in-state option. i feel like berkeley was like “ah yes this girl is low income and can’t pay for tuition? let’s accept her to get her hopes up and give her very little aid so she won’t be able to attend!” my only option would have been doing outside scholarships but that would’ve been me doing 60+ scholarships per year to be debt free. i love u berkeley but u don’t like low income oos kids apparently 😔
@gracegong9909
@gracegong9909 3 года назад
!! this !! i was in the same situation except w ucla,, i ended up going to my state school too but it the uc oos costs r just insane
@bee-bc3yj
@bee-bc3yj 3 года назад
@@gracegong9909 dang ): it sucks how they got our hopes up like that ,,, personally i didn’t think i was good enough for any of these higher tier schools so i was thrilled when i got the acceptance letter. but then they gave me like nothing in aid so i was like Damn ok reality check! i know you will succeed wherever you go though! i hope u have a good life and are able to find your own path :D
@gracegong9909
@gracegong9909 3 года назад
@@bee-bc3yj HAHA same i literally didn't think i was going to get in at all so it was nice surprise! and YES--i know you'll succeed too wherever you go. this was such a nice message to see and i wish you the best :))
@lawsonashurst7314
@lawsonashurst7314 3 года назад
As a proud student of a public land-grant university, it is just incredible an experience here as it is elsewhere. While Ivies have their prestige and for good reason, it's important to understand that what you put in, who you surround yourself with, and making connections are infinitely more important than the title of the school you attend. Most big name universities are R1, and have done great research, and has such provide valuable degrees, and even if your school isn't R1, or is even a college, you can still have a great intellectual experience if you let yourself. Don't let a rejection from some private school kill your curiosity, don't let it kill your eventual dreams. You will get just as good an education at your local public Uni than anywhere else, and it will be a lot cheaper too :-).
@lolaandyoyo6513
@lolaandyoyo6513 3 года назад
- says the one who goes to MIT
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