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@forcedalek
@forcedalek 5 месяцев назад
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@xxcoolxx2313
@xxcoolxx2313 5 месяцев назад
5’s subconscious: Commander Maxil was pretty cool
@shazampool529
@shazampool529 4 месяца назад
Hey that guy shot me I want his face
@Blackcat-yq1oh
@Blackcat-yq1oh 3 месяца назад
I always had a theory that 5 wished he was more assertive like Maxil so gained his brash personality also
@cam1e754
@cam1e754 18 дней назад
That's a good theory since the doctor was all ways lacking control over people during the 5th doctors era​@@Blackcat-yq1oh
@Kesteen
@Kesteen 5 месяцев назад
I think with 3-4's regeneration, he needed a face to make Sarah Jane happy, as the last thing 3 saw was her crying and his last words were trying to cheer her up.
@Kesteen
@Kesteen 5 месяцев назад
Another theory is with 12-13's regeneration, that Bill said she was into women around her age...
@elytra404
@elytra404 5 месяцев назад
i think part of 12's face was that he felt comfortable with clara. he wasn't trying to hide his hurt as much.
@forcedalek
@forcedalek 5 месяцев назад
thats also true!
@DragoonMS
@DragoonMS 5 месяцев назад
Hmm. Another thing to remember is that in going from 12 to 13, the Doctor started to regain that youthful energy again. And 13 to 14 could be a nod to when 4/The Caretaker told 11 that he'd "revisit some old favorites", likely pertaining to regenerations.
@forcedalek
@forcedalek 5 месяцев назад
Yeh very true, do you have a fav regen story?
@DragoonMS
@DragoonMS 5 месяцев назад
​@@forcedalek Haven't seen all of it, but the special with the War Doctor and his eventual regeneration into 9.
@Blackcat-yq1oh
@Blackcat-yq1oh 3 месяца назад
I have also seen a theory that 11 was thinking of Amy when he died so that's why 12 was scottish
@etaidade3983
@etaidade3983 4 месяца назад
I like to think the reason the doctor for most of his regenerations haven't been a burst of golden light (1-2 retroactivally fits very well with modern regeneration since its a burst of light) is that from 2-8 his regeneration was slightly bungled from the forced regeneration from the timelords. which is why 8's regeneration made the doctor actually scream in pain since the sisterhood of karn (or however you spell it) kickstarted his body's proper regeneration.
@ilikecereal1041
@ilikecereal1041 5 месяцев назад
i think part of 12's regeneration into 13 was influenced by bill, since theres that line right before he regenerates where she says "you know how i like girls around my age right? glad you knew that", i interpreted that as a request/suggestion for his next face
@forcedalek
@forcedalek 5 месяцев назад
Yeh 100%, what’s your favourite regeneration?
@ilikecereal1041
@ilikecereal1041 4 месяца назад
@@forcedalek probably journeys end, doctor who hasnt felt suspense like that since
@Mohammedamine9.
@Mohammedamine9. 5 месяцев назад
Welp, it's pretty much canon that the personality of every doctor isn't random, but it's based on the choice of the previous incarnation, either subconsciously or consciously
@forcedalek
@forcedalek 5 месяцев назад
WHATS UR FAV REGEN STORY?
@Mohammedamine9.
@Mohammedamine9. 5 месяцев назад
@@forcedalek power of the doctor or time of the doctor
@jasoncook2788
@jasoncook2788 4 месяца назад
As a result of the forced regeneration, I always felt that Troughton’s Doctor influenced the change into Pertwee as a subconscious desire to be more authoritative. It’s similar to what happened with the regeneration from Davison to Baker. This is why both Pertwee and Baker’s incarnations were often depicted as being dismissive of Troughton and Davison’s incarnations, considering them to be more fallible. As for Baker to McCoy, I’ve always related ‘Time’s Champion with unfinished business to take care of' to mid-lives crisis and a response to the instability he had experienced in the earlier part of his sixth incarnation, as well as his ToTL epiphany that he had misunderstood the potential dark side Time Lords and the Universe as a whole. With McCoy to McGann, the decision to become ‘Life’s Champion’ was in direct response to his predecessor’s machiavellian ways. The pendulum has swung too far, and he wanted to go back to enjoying the universe - not controlling it. This also involved becoming a more romantic presence, ushering in some of the changes seen in the revival series.
@GAB-fj2rw
@GAB-fj2rw 5 месяцев назад
about the third doctor, it is worth mentioning that the time lords wanted to make a body for action since this would be a doctor to fight against evil in exile
@forcedalek
@forcedalek 5 месяцев назад
true!
@adamdesalle6338
@adamdesalle6338 5 месяцев назад
Great video! Trickier to do for the Master because a lot of his incarnations aren’t actual regenerations but body swaps/thefts - and even when the master does regenerate, most of the time I imagine it’s based upon the doctor’s current appearance.
@forcedalek
@forcedalek 5 месяцев назад
Thank you! And yes, do you have a fav master?
@adamdesalle6338
@adamdesalle6338 5 месяцев назад
@@forcedalek though he didn’t get much to do in Chibnall’s era, I think Sacha Dahwan could’ve been phenomenal as the Master - loved his costume and vibe (beating that, Jon Simms - great foil to Tenant). I wonder who your favorite Master is? If you’re looking for a hand with a potential Master version of this video concept, CaptainJimiPie has several good videos trying to clean up the Master’s incarnations including the Big Finish stuff!
@MatthewCYN15
@MatthewCYN15 5 месяцев назад
About time someone did a video on why the Doctor looks like the Doctor 💙💙 My theory on why Fifteen exists is because he met Donna's family and Rose Noble. The Doctor truly is an interesting character 💙💙
@forcedalek
@forcedalek 5 месяцев назад
That makes sense! Who is ur fav doctor?
@MatthewCYN15
@MatthewCYN15 5 месяцев назад
@@forcedalek Capaldi and McGann 😁 they are my Doctors Also, I think Twelve become Thirteen is also because of Bill. Hence the colour codes of her outfit and her story with Yaz.
@Tulf42
@Tulf42 4 месяца назад
I always wanted someone to cover a video on this topic. A similar topic I would like to see covered in the future is why the Doctor chose their specific costumes in-universe. For example: the Ninth Doctor suffered trauma from the time war so he stuck with a leather jacket just as the War Doctor wore a leather coat, or Rose wore white trainers when she first met the Ninth Doctor, which may have unfluenced the Tenth Doctor to chose converse trainers/sandshoes when picking his pinstripe suit. The Tenth Doctor wore a tweed jacket and bow tie as John Smith in Human Nature/The Family of Blood, which may have influenced the Eleventh Doctor when picking his first outfit as he was living the life the Tenth Doctor couldn't have either as John Smith or the next incarnation. Another two examples: the Eleventh Doctor turned down the tweed jacket for the purple frock coat in The Bells of Saint John as he wore it closely in his time with Amy and Rory so he needed a new look as the loss of the Ponds was still recent for him. Or look at how similar Clara's costume from when she saw the Eleventh Doctor regenerate in the Time of the Doctor, which might have influenced the Twelfth Doctor's first costume. Obviously there could be a simple explanation of the Doctor just finding the right clothes and they just go with the flow but it is a topic worth exploring, and these are just my logical explanations which I'm happy to contribute should you decide to make the video yourself.
@OliverSmithson-ir9fi
@OliverSmithson-ir9fi 3 дня назад
I have a theory on the 14th doctor's regeneration: he was the doctor who didn't want to move on so he waited and hid at the edge of existence and went with 13 when she regenerated backward so that's why he aged and then when she regenerated it was into him, and you can't remember your time on the edge if you leave so that explains that
@swiftbird4846
@swiftbird4846 4 месяца назад
A fantastic thread of theories, I love it.
@teenytv5194
@teenytv5194 Месяц назад
I always thought that 11 turning into 12, whose much older is bc he’s so comfortable with Clara he’s happy to show his age
@tyerflynn-foster
@tyerflynn-foster 3 месяца назад
And with 11 I feel like he knew he was going to find Amy pond as a child that’s why he’s the youngest and most childlike. Destined
@purpleduke3193
@purpleduke3193 4 месяца назад
If you're wanting a Master Timeline I can give you it from the 12th (Delgado) Master onwards. Unfortunately the majority of pre-Delgado incarnations haven't been explored in any media, so no-one will be able to help there. Also, the circumstances leading to most of their regenerations are still a mystery, so this will mainly be a chronological list of incarnations instead of a timeline. Anyway: The 12th Master (Delgado) is followed by the "Crispy" Master (I forget the original deadly assassin actor, he's played by Geoffrey Beavers in all other encounters). It must be noted, this incarnation is the final in the Master's original regeneration cycle, and the decayed look isn't because he's artificially elongated this lifespan, it's a direct consequence of some sort of mysterious off-screen accident that he blames the Dr for. Here's where the Numbering can get complicated, as technically every Master prior to the Alex Macqueen version still counts as the 13th, but to keep things simple I'm going to number them per actor as they all pretty much have different personalities and are known to appear alongside each other in Multi-Master stories as different entities. After Beavers' 13, is Ainley's 14th. This change is seen at the end of "The Keeper of Traken". Now, the 15th is only ever seen in the intro to the TV Movie being put on trial by the Daleks (notably overseen by none other than the Dalek Time Controller, at that point going by the title of the Dalek Litigator) as part of a very fragile truce between the Timelords and the Daleks, leading up to the timewar. Forgive me when I forget the Actor 😅. Then the 16th incarnation is introduced in the same movie, played by Eric Roberts. This incarnation actually properly dies in this outing, but is brought back from the vortex due to shenanigans in the first "Master!" Boxset. Note: this isn't his resurrection by the timelords as most ppl who don't listen to BF assume. That comes later. The 16th master keeps being banished to and then brought back from the vortex. It's assumed that one such banishment will eventually be permanent, leading to the resurrection of the Master by the CIA as "peacetime" tensions start to get... interesting. NEW REGENERATION CYCLE! The 17th incarnation played by Alex Macqueen is recruited by Narvin to investigate and try and control the Eminence, who's existence replaced the daleks within the prophecy referenced in "Genesis of the Daleks". Side note: "Dark Eyes" is great. Also, this incarnation is known to randomly turn up and have encounters with Dr's prior to the 8th. He then regenerates via unknown circumstance, into Sir Derek Jacobi's 18th Master; The War Master. This, along with Missy, is probably the most documented Master. The lead up and circumstance of his eventual regeneration are both fully explored. I want to mention 2 additional oddities that occur during his tenure. The first is the introduction of the alternate "Unbound Master" who is rescued from his own universe by the Dalek Time Strategist to save the primary universe's timelines from destruction by the hands of the 18th Master (see "Anti-Genesis"). This means there are literally 2 separate Masters running around the main universe, this includes during all the events of Nu-Who. I'll let that information sink in for a bit, and then never mention it again 🙃 The second anachronism occurs during the events of "Masterful". That anachronism being the events of "Masterful". SPOILERS: due to the 19th Master killing the 13th Dr and creating a flux level entity that they then loose control of, in the end it's the war master who kills himself, his previous and future incarnations to reset the timeline (in other words; alternate/permanent deaths for most of the Masters involved; 1, 13, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20 (missy) and 20.5 (The Luminat) as well as complete erasure of all other incarnations with the exception of the "Unbound" Master who dips to another universe after having a chat with Missy and stealing Kamelion.) Back to the primary tineline; The Saxon Master (19) regenerates into Missy (20) after being stabbed by an older version of Missy during "The Doctor Falls" Here's where the Luminat (20.5) comes in. This incarnation would of originally been the 21st Master after Missy's redemption, however the fatal encounter with the 19th Master cut the redemption short, erasing the Luminat from existence. That's right, in an alternate timeline (the OG timeline) the 21st Master continued Missy's redemption and became a Dr-like figure for good, but all that was lost when 19 preemptively killed Missy. Due to this 21 then became the Dwann Master. It's probable that they didn't start off as we see them in the show, instead slowly decending back into maddness believing the Dr abandoned them after being killed by themselves, then finding out about Division and the timeless child etc (I'm sure this will all be revealed in BF's upcoming 21st Master series) Then we have the tooth.
@T10Doctor
@T10Doctor 3 месяца назад
Incredible video !!! hope a video like this for the master.
@vinniequick
@vinniequick 5 месяцев назад
1-2=As you said surrounded by young people he went from mid 50's to physically late 30's-mid 40's and his personality went from old grandpa to the energy of a young early 20's rich party kid, wisdom of a 70 year old+ and attitude of a late 30's early 40's man 2-3 The Timelord's made him very physically able but also physically mid 40's to early 50's and his Personality a fancy, classy, clever responsible quick witted wise man surely meant to have the mental age of an old man but due to the Doctor being rebellious his mental age was more mid to late 30's with the wisdom of someone in their 70's+ and sass of 60's+ 3-4 He went physically to mid 30's-early 40's, intentionally instead of just trying to change look like a funny good time dude, and had his mental age be the attitude of a mid 30's to early 40's fun dad and energy/sass of a teenager who thinks there all big and wants to go mess around 4-5 Surrounded by so many people he tried to make this face as kind as possibly and human as possibly while still having his alien features, in the same way he's physically mid to late 20's, mindset of a kind hearted simple early 20's sweet heart but still that old man logic which can bring out his anger 5-6 seeing as 5 was not really a man of action he took inspiration from General Maxill a soldier which gave him full on action packed rage filled man but with Doctor aspects so the anger and charge of a soldier+the charm and humor of a funny teacher/dad leading him to have the physical age of mid 30's-early 40's, mental age of mid 30's-early 40's, the wisdom of a 50's veteran and a tad of teenage sass mixed with like I said dad humor, oh and loads of confidence/ego 6-7 He went a double sided coin, on the one hand he seemed like a mid 40's seen it all funny teacher/clown who could cheer you up and on the other he was a couple centuries old being that could manipulate anything into his favor, awhile physically being active but not looking it and going for that early to mid 40's trusting teacher look who's clearly retired but seen a lot 7-8 He went for a early to late 30's Charming handsome ready to adventure romantic lad who you could have a chat with a the pub for hours, sprinkle in some alien-ness, centuries of knowledge and some bluntness and there you go 8-Warrior The Perfect Mid 30's Soldier with Doctor like features Warrior-9 He went for a late 30's early 40's Sassy War Veteran Dad who loves a laugh and after what he's seen just wants the fun in life but when he's pissed you know he's pissed 9-10 He went for while looking early to mid 20's actually mid 20's-mid 30's early 20's college mindset Romantic Fairy Tale Hero right out of a book mixed in with what he thought would he Rose's dream man all into one with some Autism, Alien-ness and Centuries of knowledge sprinkled on makes the base of 10 however when he has no one to be the dashing hero to he loses the facade and becomes an angry, bitter, trauma filled, no nonsense destroyer of worlds ready to conquer the universe if pushed 10-10 The same but I feel like due to still be Regenerated slightly and losing Rose the facade slowly died and his under side became more predominate 10-11 He became an early to mid 20's Man with the Personality of nothing matters anymore only got a couple months (actually hundreds of years but you know) to live and's gonna make the most of it no matter what of course this doesn't always work as when he did get attached he went into retirement post leaving but due to his own mind he couldn't help himself get out of it 11-12 He became a mid 50's blunt, no social ques special needs alien filled but with centuries of knowledge old man who still tries staying hip with the youngsters and tries sparking up life every now and then with a spark of late 30's early 40's mid life crisis lets get this party started attitude and a teenage sass swagger to him 12-13 A younger early to mid 30's mix of Missy and her other selves predominantly 10, 11 and 12 which until Big Finish or Russel prove other wise made her not the best Doctor 13-14 was when the Doctor just needed a break so by taking the face that has the most unresolved trauma now physically aged up to early 50's looking worn/matured, with the mental age of a early 50's person instead of a early 20's college kid, and with all the vanity, issues, darkness replaced with being emotionally open, more relaxed humble man he also is just made to be a therapy face you can tell, also by how much he loves everyone 14-14/15 15's brought from the future to split off 14 14-15 He went for a with no trauma, no problems, happy go lucky ready to explore the world super energetic young chap also someone you could spend hours flirting with or talking to at a club or bar/pub
@forcedalek
@forcedalek 5 месяцев назад
What’s your favourite regeneration story?
@vinniequick
@vinniequick 5 месяцев назад
@@forcedalek My favorite story is End of Time, Effect is 14-15 and final dialogue is 8-Warrior
@cec735
@cec735 3 месяца назад
I still love the idea that the regeneration into 10 was subconsciously made for Rose in mind, I love them sm
@Mei-uw6mc
@Mei-uw6mc 4 месяца назад
also, for the change 12 to 13, the doctor just remembered clara minutes before the regeneration. i think he also became a young woman to make sure they'll never forget her again
@Synthpopper
@Synthpopper 4 месяца назад
The main Doctor Who wiki's Master timeline is still super convoluted but the best and most detailed I've found.
@thetraveller2681
@thetraveller2681 5 месяцев назад
Whats the music you during the bigeneration
@forcedalek
@forcedalek 5 месяцев назад
Linked in the description :)
@dnavanzat1
@dnavanzat1 7 дней назад
I disagree with one of those. The “older” Doctor, Peter C, the episode right before that was with Bill sort of coming back and our very first Doctor. In that, there were many, what we consider now to be sexist, comments he made towards Bill, which PC heard and commented on. I always thought that his regeneration into our first female Doctor was because of that. Because he realized what he had been, what he had thought, what he had said, etc.
@reverse7503
@reverse7503 5 месяцев назад
nice , now wat about the personalitiy of each face he gets, for example 5 was very kind and 6 was very rude, 11 was kind and thoughtful of others yet 12 was drawn back and a lil rude but changed to be more open later. is it just regeneration that makes the personality that way and he has to relearn to become more then the preset of the regeneration he gets or could there be some sub thoughts on how he should behave once he changes, perhaps he was tired of being nice and wanted to try being rude subconsciously therefore thats wat he became? let me know what u think in terms of this.
@59rlmccormack
@59rlmccormack 4 месяца назад
Perhaps it does make sense.
@DefinitelyNOTWilliamAfton
@DefinitelyNOTWilliamAfton 5 месяцев назад
because i cant remember the name, what is the music used for eleven's regen?
@forcedalek
@forcedalek 5 месяцев назад
I dont know either 0-0
@DefinitelyNOTWilliamAfton
@DefinitelyNOTWilliamAfton 5 месяцев назад
@@forcedalek damn, we both got demetia 💀
@chancesears1842
@chancesears1842 4 месяца назад
I don’t understand your explanation on way Jodie turned back into David
@Comicbroe405
@Comicbroe405 4 месяца назад
This was a really great video. Honestly I don't think this needs to be a theory.
@mr.alvs.multiverse3146
@mr.alvs.multiverse3146 5 месяцев назад
I want hear about big finished master
@forcedalek
@forcedalek 5 месяцев назад
great! Who is your fav master?
@mr.alvs.multiverse3146
@mr.alvs.multiverse3146 5 месяцев назад
You after hearing some clip that are on youtube on War master i say either between him or missy. Because they give out a damn performance @@forcedalek
@GAB-fj2rw
@GAB-fj2rw 5 месяцев назад
please make one video about the timeless children
@forcedalek
@forcedalek 5 месяцев назад
What would you like it to be about?
@GAB-fj2rw
@GAB-fj2rw 5 месяцев назад
@@forcedalek Where did the doctor really come from?
@MeidasWhovianAdvocate
@MeidasWhovianAdvocate 5 месяцев назад
I'd love to see Jensen Ackles as The Doctor
@nani4249
@nani4249 5 месяцев назад
Imagine if henry cavill was the doctor
@MeidasWhovianAdvocate
@MeidasWhovianAdvocate 5 месяцев назад
@@nani4249 how about Henry Cavill as Rassilon
@Kesteen
@Kesteen 5 месяцев назад
Imagine Ewan McGregor as The Doctor
@MeidasWhovianAdvocate
@MeidasWhovianAdvocate 5 месяцев назад
@@Kesteen how about Ewan McGregor as The Omega
@MeidasWhovianAdvocate
@MeidasWhovianAdvocate 5 месяцев назад
@@nani4249 and why couldn't Jensen Ackles play The Doctor? And don't give that " because he's American" excuse cause American is a form of English.
@AnnBearForFreedom
@AnnBearForFreedom Месяц назад
Why does the Doctor's face change the way it does? Because the role is re-cast. and another actor takes over. Come on, guys! Its a TV show! Can we at least TRY to live in reality??
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