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Why the Indiana Pacers might have to make a big move in the next 12-18 months and what it could be

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The Indiana Pacers are going to be dealing with some financial challenges in the next few years. How can they build a great team in spite of that? What move(s) could be coming in the next year or so? Host Tony East is joined by Yossi Gozlan from capsheets.com (www.capsheets....) and his own RU-vid channel ( / @yossigozlannba ) to break it all down.
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@rjonesy3480 Месяц назад

Tough decisions coming, but I’m not worried. This front office has earned my trust. KP and the guys will do right by us.

@kalu8652 Месяц назад

Yes. remember 3 years ago we had Sabonis, Turner, Levert, Brogdon as our top 4 guys... lol. Amazing, speedrun rebuild

@daltonhamilton5317 Месяц назад

18:27 😂😂the look on your face when he implied Hartenstien and or Claxton is worth more or better than Myles was great.

@llcoolray3000 Месяц назад

That got me too.

@LockedOnPacers Месяц назад

lol. I was surprised by that but this episode wasn't really about centers so I kept it moving

@AshleyShaeffer Месяц назад

@@LockedOnPacersYou got a PURTY mouth boy!!

@clytnjms Месяц назад

Boston has a half BILLION dollars wrapped up in Taytum and Brown. Have Porzingis, Jrue Holiday and Derrick White. Have future hall of famer Al Horford. Philly has Embiid, George, Maxey. Knicks have Brunson, Bridges, Randle, Robinson AND OG. But Pacers are In crisis mode now that Obi was signed to 15 mill per and have to sign Nembhardt, Turner and Tj. I agree with this Guy. Just get them to sign contracts and worry about all this other stuff later. Just sign the players Pacers brass believes Will get them another deep playoff run.

@lordmegatron4789 Месяц назад

for real though

@erbs9 Месяц назад

I know in this show you discussed about on that amount of salary no one is better that Nesmith. I would say that Jonathan Kuminga is a much better 3 that Nesmith. He can also play the 4 if needed. So finding a way to trade Toppin or Nesmith to get JK would benefit the pacers in the long run aswell. In the next season they would have a space to re-sign TJ or Nemhard. To be a backup point guard. Then maybe Furphy could be the backup 3.

@warlockmagic3416 Месяц назад

I'm not as high on Nembhard as other's. I'd rather had Caruso. I like Nembhard, but I guess we'll see what happens. Right now Mathurin is my only protected young player.

@79glane928 Месяц назад

Caruso is like 30 years old. I like him but Nembhard is young and cheap.

@julianfoddrell9370 Месяц назад

Nembhard low key cold. But he plays better behind Haliburton instead of with him. I keep seeing posts about Caruso but nembhard really does the same thing Caruso does.

@kalu8652 Месяц назад

@@julianfoddrell9370 Nembhard is lowkey, in the same situation that Haliburton was in. A young PG playing SG because the team he's drafted to already has a star PG. He wants to be here and isn't causing issue just like Ty was in Sac, but we all saw what happened. Ty was way too valuable and the Kings traded him for a an all star player in return. Same thing could happen with Andrew, he's just so valuable to a team that needs a PG. He's a 20/8 player that defends if he's the starter. He may just be way too valuable to avoid trading him for an upgrade elsewhere. And we have Nesmith who can easily slide to the 2 and he's much better at the 2 than the 3.

@teetee4769 Месяц назад

What? What? What? Please say no to drugs. Caruso?🤣🤣🤣

@llcoolray3000 Месяц назад

Looks like the best solution for the Pacers is to just win the championship next year.

@LockedOnPacers Месяц назад

As always!

@WizopIndy Месяц назад

I think we have to trade Nembhard but I don't know when. Now? Deadline? Next summer? I also think we may have to include Nesmith in the deal

@kalu8652 Месяц назад

Nah, you need a 3&D SG next to Haliburton. You don't trade Nesmith if you trade Nembhard, Nesmith is one of the best 3&D SGs in the league on a cheap deal. He's not going anywhere IMO. I would just trade Nembhard and Obi and try to get an elite 3&D SF.

@WizopIndy Месяц назад

@@kalu8652 I think that may be Mathurin's spot to lose although Sheppard or even Nesmith could win the competition. We have no cost control with Nembhard since he wasn't a first round pick that can be extended at a reasonable price. we can't afford to give him the same money as Turner.

@kalu8652 Месяц назад

@@WizopIndy I agree Nembhard is the most likely to be traded. Nesmith can do 2 things Mathurin has yet to show in the NBA, catch and shoot 3s and defense. He just fits so much better with Haliburton than Mathurin does. I love Mathurin, but if he doesn't become a good defender, he has no future on this team beyond being a 6th man.

@robroy33in Месяц назад

Lol, Mathurin is only 22 years old, a complete stud, and already averages 15 points a game, and still learning to defend and create. Nesmith is best defender but can’t create like Mathurin. Nesmith strictly a catch and shoot at the 3 point line, get him to move and % drops considerably, simply leave at the sf, Walker at 3/4 off the bench. Leave Sheppard to backup Mathurin, move Nembhard and salary for future picks and a future salary dump.

@brandonshirey400 Месяц назад

Turner made $60 million on paper for last year and next. When they extended him at the end of ‘23 they gave him an extra $17 million they had to spend under the cap.

@RedemptionInChrist. Месяц назад

I don’t get the nembhard hype. I think hes the one that can be expendable. Hes not a good SG and we saw how much better he is as a PG. I think hes the one traded eventually

@kalu8652 Месяц назад

He's a budding top 20 PG in the league that's getting better. Other teams will be looking at him as a 20/8 guy who can defend... super valuable. He's our best trade asset.

@RedemptionInChrist. Месяц назад

@@kalu8652 disagree. He averaged 9ppg during the season

@williammcmurtrie871 Месяц назад

Mathurin and Toppin first two to go. 9+ and 15. Respectively. These guys will be most expendable. Seems easy to keep Nembhard, Sheppard and Walker.

@79glane928 Месяц назад

I feel like when you are a small market team you cant afford to overpay role players. You have to invest heavily in the top of your roster and find high value role players/bench players. A good example of this is the Nuggets. Last year, they let Bruce Brown walk. This year the let KCP walk. They are good players but they are replacable. We are kind of at this point with McConnell and Obi. Thats 25 million dollars next year.

@clytnjms Месяц назад

Mcconnel is the best backup point guard in the NBA and Pacers would have been a 10 seed without Him. Obi has a very unique skillset and was a huge part of the Pacers having the number one bench in the league.

@kalu8652 Месяц назад

Kinda hard to say those were good moves by the Nuggets until we see how the next 5 years goes for them. Letting KCP and Brown go just so their owner can save money may be the reason they only win 1 championship. If the Celtics let their 4th and 5th best players walk, I don't think they'd be able to repeat either. Those guys are important. It's just hard to keep them without paying the tax, because if your 4th and 5th best players are good, they are gonna get paid. It's going to come down to the Ownership being willing to pay the tax or we arent going to compete, it's as simple as that.

@79glane928 Месяц назад

@@clytnjmsI disagree with that. I think Nembhard is a much better PG and was played out of position to accomodate TJ. I think he is a very good player but I think Pacers fans over value him a little because they love his style of play.

@79glane928 Месяц назад

@@clytnjmson Obi....again I never said these guys werent good players but overpaying good players is not good for a team like the Pacers who have limited resources. They are already capped out. They made the ECF but were pretty fortunate with their draw in the playoffs and at the end of the day were just a 6 seed. Obi had 1 good year and we just threw 60m at him. Without Ty he is nowhere near the player he was last year.

@jdek88 Месяц назад

It feels like they're getting ready to do a 2 for 1 situation. Trade Obi and someone else for an upgrade somewhere

@kalu8652 Месяц назад

With Obi's salary, he's definitely the guy to trade. Only other option is Myles and I just don't think they'd trade him. He fits perfectly with Ty and Siakam, both of those guys love playing with him. And he's one of the team's leaders.

@jdek88 Месяц назад

@@kalu8652 Yup. That's why I think they signed Obi. Reasonable contract, he looked good overall in playoffs, and a lot of teams probably would pay for him given he's still young

@octajon Месяц назад

16:51 holy fuckin shit did he just say that

@lordmegatron4789 Месяц назад

im really worried that pascal makes us very good but not nearly good enough...i wonder if we should've tried for at least one more lottery pick. idk.

@ChristopherRMcClain Месяц назад

The day before this came out I said I could see Benn and Obi being the first two I could see the trading, does your cover picture mean you agree?

@warlockmagic3416 Месяц назад

It's exciting to give up young good talent to have a max level role player instead.

@Texascodecase Месяц назад

Do a show on potential teams next year that could try to get Myles Turner

@79glane928 Месяц назад

The Pacers are never gonna have 3 max players. This is what I was getting at when I commented on an earlier video. They are pretty much capped out already. Which is why I wouldve let Toppin walk and gave Jarace the opportunity to fill his spot. Giving him that deal might put us in a tough spot next year.

@reginaldsanders5299 Месяц назад

Jarrace is a 3

@79glane928 Месяц назад

@@reginaldsanders5299i think he can play either.

@chrisburton8949 Месяц назад

This was a GREAT EPISODE UNTIL he had to say Myles Turner has never accomplished what Isaiah Hartenstein has. WOW. Exactly what your reaction was is mine. I wish you would’ve asked him how he hadn’t? Myles at the start of the season will be with the SAME TEAM for 10 SEASONS. I could go on and on. What has Hartenstein accomplished

@clytnjms Месяц назад

Rebounding is A HUGE deal. I definitely think Myles is better but Hartenstein unquestionably is a much better offensive rebounder. Claxton and Hartenstein making 20 million a year because they can rebound. Neither can shoot 3s.

@lordmegatron4789 Месяц назад

if everyone is on really good contracts then why are we worrying?

@LockedOnPacers Месяц назад

Because they can't keep them all

@reginaldsanders5299 Месяц назад

JARACE IS NOT A 4!!!!!!!!! He’s a 3 Niehsmith is not a 3 he’s a 2 Nimhard is a point guard and on our team definitely not a starting point sheesh

@kennethdean35 Месяц назад

Jarace can play 3, 4 and small 5 if needed. Nesmith is definitely a 2 and too small to be a 3. And u got it Nembhard is really a 1. But he won't be the starting 1 on this team with Haliburton ahead of him. The starting 5 will eventually be: Haliburton 1, Mathurin 2, Trade 3, Siakam 4, Turner 5

@reginaldsanders5299 Месяц назад

@@kennethdean35 point being is he’s a 3 first and foremost and then so on people have to stop acting as if he’s a power forward he’s only 6’6” no more than 6’7”

@kennethdean35 Месяц назад

@reginaldsanders5299 I think he's both he has a defensive game as a PF but his offense he can be a 3 and set up the offense. I think he's a poor man's Dreymond Green!

@warlockmagic3416 Месяц назад

😂 yeah, I liked what the Warriors did too and most all other team's.

@warlockmagic3416 Месяц назад

Think if we could somehow get off this 45mil Pascal contract.. Man, that would be awesome. 😂

@RedemptionInChrist. Месяц назад

Or the fact if hali didn’t get those bonuses for making all nba. He may not be worth the max

@RedemptionInChrist. Месяц назад

Obi will definitely be gone

@RedemptionInChrist. Месяц назад

Nesmith also isn’t a starter.

@kalu8652 Месяц назад

What? The archetype of a perfect 4th or 5th starter is a 3&D player and Nesmith is one of the best in the league. He's underrated because he's asked to guard 3s. Look at what he did to Brunson... absolutely SMOTHERED him. He's an elite 3&D SG that's just forced to play up.

@RedemptionInChrist. Месяц назад

@@kalu8652 disagree

@johncraig4820 Месяц назад

He's a starter right now and can start for several teams in the league. I think Mathurin and potentially Walker may both threaten to push him out. Mathurin was playing really well right before the injury.

@johncraig4820 Месяц назад

@@kalu8652 I think small forward may be his best position.. He is taller than Josh Hart. Ball handling is not quite NBA SG level in today's for and he has developed into more than a 3&D player. He attacks the rim well.

@user-fc2ry1ee2y Месяц назад

Danny Avdiya would be a significant upgrade over Nesmith?........... Is this just jewsih people supporting each other or I'm missing something?

@RedemptionInChrist. Месяц назад

He would have been.

@user-fc2ry1ee2y Месяц назад

@@RedemptionInChrist. You are not watching Indiana and/or Washington games then.

@johncraig4820 Месяц назад

@@user-fc2ry1ee2y A bit antisemitic on that response. Deni Avdija is 6'9 and I think has some upside potential over AA. I think AA had a better season although he suddenly stuck from beyond the arc during the playoffs.

@user-fc2ry1ee2y Месяц назад

@@johncraig4820 As antisemitic as Palestine children daring to get torn into pieces. "AA" aka Aaron Nesmith is Indiana's best: 1. Charge-reciever. 2. One of their best 3-point shooters last season. 3. One of their best defenders.