This behaviour i have got down to an absolute double T! I usually will drag it out forever rather than crush the other but the resentment will be sky high, plus i t'll leave me not knowing who i am anymore. Soo tiring too.
It sucks when others are so insecure that they are feeling threatened by your fledgling competency. I have done this so many times that now I refuse to accept positions subordinate to anyone who might feel they are in competition with me or aren’t truly absolutely subject matter experts. Saves us both a lot of time and unnecessary heartache.
It's like we are the kind people who don't like to brag or overshare, so when people realize we actually have our own life and boundaries and we are not here to be their cheerleader and people pleaser, they get shocked and offended. And I am learning it's okay. No matter what you do, it's gonna offend somebody.
Yes! There have been many times where people have realized that I don't want to hang out late at night for karaoke or go for a run at 2 in the morning and they look at me like I'm the crazy one for wanting my own life and wanting to go to sleep at a decent time, like around midnight in my books. I feel like the more real and honest I am with people, the less friends I have. I guess that just shows who my true friends are and who is just there when it's convenient for them.
@@HaleyMary yea because you turn down opportunities to form those connections. When you say they look at you crazy for “wanting your own life” that sounds very singular, not inclusive. You can have your own life, but you probably will have less friends if you don’t have time for anyone else because of your sleep schedule. There are plenty of people who like to hang out in the day time too. But your attitude does make you sound a bit dull, closed minded, and sanctimonious. Not necessarily rude.
"Not showing anything" is a primitive survival instinct for me. It's a jungle out there for a sensitive feeler. I grew up in a social group that was very harsh with judgment, criticism, shame, and rejection, and it was a feeble means of escape. Isolation is also God's gift to the infj and I use it heavily.
@@TejubescDM and it's not like you want to feel the need to be 24/7 strong but God forbid a moment of weakness shows because that's when they flock with their narcissism an persecution occurs
so true. but we have to get out of this "survival mode" it was important in early family-life and especially in school. (from time to time you should thank your younger self for surviving) But as you get older... you have the control over who you let in your life. I think this is one of the most important steps in creating our "superlife": getting from "surviving" to "living" But yeah.... those f..ing narcos. we are a magnet to them. try to reframe it: those narcos are so weak, we can induce an existential crisis in them by simply existing. thats power.
"Isolation is also God's gift to the INFJ" I like that! thank you for making my day :) , Funny thing is when I hear any guidance from above I act like "adam & eve" run away and hide behind a tree LOL
As an older guy, I have come to realize that I am not an INTJ after all. I took the MB test several times over the past 20 years and always scored as an INTJ. The last test I took I scored as an INFJ. Perhaps I am being more honest with myself now that I am older. But I can look back through my life now at all the people who question my successes and blessings as though they think, how could that happen to him, he is so quiet and non-assertive. And I guess it’s like, my life became better as I began to accept myself for who I am and not overly try to be the sports buff or the great sales guy or ladies man, which quite frankly were not and still are not natural for me.
People think we are the weakest, loneliest people who know nothing and people try to play us but we beat them at their own game, and its intimidating so we scare people off.
As a young INFJ I'd keep my opinions to myself to not upset the other person or shake their ideologies. As I matured and gained confidence, I began to speak my mind & was shocked by how many people couldn't handle it and then attempted to gaslight. It's took a while to understand what was happening, but now I know those who accept me for who I am will stay and those who can't handle it gaslight/leave. It's actually a much healthier life for an INFJ to live. INFJs don't be afraid to speak your mind for fear of upsetting someone. Most INFJs attempt to say things with care and grace & it's up to the other person to hear you or not.
I was the same as you about that. Everyone seemed to like me because I never made any waves by telling people my opinions or beliefs. I thought of myself as a detached observer. If I got close to someone then I might share an opinion or two but never to the point of argument. But just like Wenzes said, this eventually leads to resentment on my part and usually my departure from the relationship. And just like you, when I DID open my mouth and explain how I felt about something or took a stand on something, people around me then perceived me as argumentative or contrarian or in some other way were shocked by me. So we essentially go out of our way to "not be abandoned" by others and ultimately end up in that situation anyway by trying to "go along to get along". I now am no longer interested in losing myself to go along with a crowd or a person.
There is a downside for the infj as well. I am REALLY good at communicating with people....being understanding, seeing it from their pov...fixing their problems by giving them another way of looking at their problem. I just wanna help people and be nice. But if you make a guy feel heard,his opinion valued and his feelings/fears understood......a lot of the times they end up with a crush on you cause you fulfill something that was lacking in their life (especially if they have mommy issues). And its 100% unintentional from the infj's pov. Now as a mature INFJ I know this....and I know my role in this. But before it was just plain annoying. I'm just being nice and you blink once and all of a sudden you have this love sick puppy glued to your @$$ and you don't know how that happened cause "I'm just being nice d@mn it, I'm not even flirting or anything, how did this happen?!". It used to annoy the h€ll out of me cause that would leave me having to crush his little heart while all I wanted to do was be nice to the guy. But there is 0% chance I'd date them cause they aren't really in love with me....I have said NOTHING about myself (like I would let my guard down that easily🙄). They don't know anything about me. They just fabricated a picture of me purely based on who they want me to be. The second reality doesn't match their fantasy I'll get my heart broken so....no thank you. Its h€ll on the lovelife.
works for male infj's in a similar way i'm not in love with every woman i talk to... sorry but im not that cheap^^ sometimes, believe it or not, i just want to be friends...
@@derda1304 exactly. And then you have the effect that has on others. I had other girls in school hate me for it thinking I am stuck up thinking I am too good for the guys or something. When in reality I was a shy introverted girl.....thinking I am better than was the last thing I was thinking.
@@khxliakhxlia3605 I am starting to think its a matter of perspective. Instead of surten aspects being the infj's curse...it can also be our greatest gift if we use it properly and are aware of the things we do on autopilot. The infj is a social chameleon thanks to Fe. * we have build in camouflage and people just don't see us: pro - safety. Con - kinda makes people ignore us. * we mirror because of Fe. We adjust our mood to the people we see. Thats why they create an image of us when we haven't even told them nothing.... they like us cause we mirror them...they like themselves. Thats also the reason why surten people instantly hate us when we haven't even spoken to them....they hate themselves. The infj isn't aware we do this but its kinda an untapped ability if you think about it.
I think if people were handed a book of nearly everything a typical INFJ who knows about the individual they would probably be shocked at the amount of stuff we keep hidden. Both disturbing and loving.
@@sp3g56 Im INTJ but got it mixed up with this one. It's nothing illegal or anything that will wind a person up in jail. Basically if you wrong me or my family, I will get you back on very deep psychological level.
I cannot tell you the amount of times I have "hollowed" myself out for the men I dated in order to make them more comfortable around me, while sacrificing my own comfort. Its exhausting. Never again.
As an INFJ, I rarely abuse the things I intuit about other people. And never in emotional anger or hurt. If I use anything at all it is a truth bomb that doesn’t regard feeling of any kind because it’s facts that matter.
@Cedriana Parker facts of life, and then they just look at you like how in the absolute fuck did you know that and try to cover it up like no that’s not what’s happening and try make you seem like your over assuming, after this video I not know I was just seeing through the illusion they were tryna put on and called them out on it and they’re ego took over and defended itself lol
This sounds like the evolution many INFJs go through from being the empath to sigma. For so many years and relationships I put aside my authentic self to people please and make others comfortable. It was only after many years later I would get fed up and speak my truth and end up losing those people anyway. They just wanted to energy dump onto me and I took it instead of saying “that’s not smart.” I chose to appease them and pour so much wisdom and solution in a kind manner that fell on deaf ears. As the Bible says, don’t throw pearls at swine. I would’ve saved myself so much frustration and heartache if I just spoke up in a direct manner from the beginning. I had to learn and now refuse to put aside my truth. Take it or leave it. Power of the Sigma!
Start focusing on yourself more and less on the people around you and watch how quickly they all disappear! Whoever is left ...they were your true friends all along 👍
I guess this is where we are the true mirror-imagers. I've been doing this all my life without realisng it and not giving anything away. Only showing people what I want them to see, but in reality they know very little about me. Easy to see how we end up in one sided relationships by default. I don't think we can ever really stop this...
oh god I hope we can stop this! No one really knows who I am not even my family! and it messes with my head that every person we know has a different version of who they think we are.. with none of them knowing much at all and probably never will.. People would poop their pants if I just came out and was me, not even sure I know how 😳. should be on my bucket list; be authentically me before I die 😬
I did this once to a dr before in the past because he was so rude to me so I mirrors back his behavior. He didn’t like it but it was ok when he was rude to me
I remember before I called off my wedding, thinking about bringing together my group of groomsmen. That was going to be a volatile event. I was the sidekick to a variety of dominant personalities at the time. I have since come into my own strengths, after a decade of isolation and reflection. I am my own super hero now. The creator of this channel puts out a quality product. Appreciate your content.
Have I been in situations where people were crushed by me although I had no such intentions? Yes. It was mainly because I had revealed the truth that cares about no one's feelings. Truth that has always been there in which was avoided and replaced with falsehoods that made it easier for others to do wrong. When I have spoken up about it boldly, yet professionally, I have found that I had said the things that others were feeling, yet they were fearful of repercussions and such. I am not. I don't intend on "crushing" others. I just want to point out, "This is the truth, and the process should change for the better". There's an old saying " If it hurts when you do that, then don't do that".
As an INFJ I have been caught in this perpetual dilemma where I go searching for people that can match my energy completely yet they can only match one side of me. This is what I want most in my life. Someone who I can show all my sides to.
I'm just realizing this as well. Incredible feeling. I often think about past relationships and what I could of or should of done to make it work. But it never would have. That other side was never being fulfilled. A lot of mental weight lifted 🤯
For me it’s about feeling out who I can trust and learning boundaries. I used to overshare and now I am very protective of myself. I will attempt to share with some people and I have been gaslit and coerced so many times it’s ridiculous. Once I see someone for who they are, if it’s not good, I will door slam. Part of the reason the door slam exists is as a form of protection, because if I don’t door slam I will keep giving them another chance to show they are a decent human being and they have already shown me who they are. I will be opening myself up to be hurt repeatedly. I just had this happen so it’s pretty fresh for me. Luckily I have close friends who I trust and I am transparent with them.
Wow again so confirming to my journey. I found out I am an INFJ about 6 months ago. I discovered it through my desire to only have people in my life who want to be in my life as much as I want them in mine. I have spent my 53 years fitting into other people’s worlds and never learned that filling my life with me is ok. I have paired my world of connections back to a precious few. It is an adjustment almost like a withdrawal from the drug of being a people pleaser. However, I am now understanding me and each time someone doesn’t stay in my life it gets easier.
"Filling my life with me" is great! I've been looking at it as giving myself all the love, kindness, peace and generosity that NO one else can give me.
I hear you because I am about 3 years older and have spent my life the same way. But now I am doing my best to quite the people pleaser phase and be accepting of myself and the things I like and love. More power to you!
I discovered this unkown unintentional ability at work when I was 37. I unknowingly unmasked a psychopath just by existing. She flew into a narcissistic rage at work. I didn't know much about narcissism before that experience. I'm a basically an expert now.
This is enmeshment ( many infj's learn to enmesh with other to stay safe but at the cost of themselves) We must learn in our journey to have boundaries. We are co-dependents and we need to heal ( not all but many)
I know this is a journey for me and I think it is hard to admit but when we can admit this to ourselves that I think many infj's had enmeshment trauma growing up and need to heal to change these patterns. This can be a long journey but I think the more we are able to admit this to ourselves and find groups and therapists to support our healing and validate what we have been through we can change and experience healthy connection with others not co-dependency our need to enmesh with others can stop and we can realize true relationship is give and take of 2 fully developed selves.
I became a confident introvert, but that was a slow evolution. Challenging myself in many ways, trying to fit a girl's interests, looking for a job, etc. In the end I foud out I was not so bad at all to enter some new group, and try to relate with people, provided there are some basic interests, connecting points. I found out I enjoy seeing how different people react and deal with challenges, difficulties, always in hope to learn some new traits, views, from those I find along my way. We got to get out of the comfort zone every now and then. But as you say if we think we were played or dealt with unfairly, we can be drastic, or just leave for nevermore without even a talk. Great content.
Around half of a year or so I literally went through this kind of resentment. Thankfully, I didn't hurt that friend of mine. The thing is that I was so invested in her life, hobbies and stuff, that at some point when she got a boyfriend thus tried to set some boundaries to have privacy, I was deeply hurt. Moreover, it took me a couple of years to just see the issue and what shocked me even more is that I understood that the huge part of what I considered to be me was actually hers, her thoughts/ philosophy/ goals/ plans for life and etc. Like I put her first to that extent that I didn't understand anymore where was I 😬. And the reason why I felt so resentful was that there was a number of situation where I would sacrifice myself, but I didn't felt it back, like it never was about me. I rarely if ever let this to be about me, so yeah, healthy boundaries are must have 😅
I fully believe that, by simply holding strong on my boundaries during conflict when people are trying to manipulate me, I trigger tower moments, dark night of the soul, ego death, whatever you see fit to call it. When they realize their usual tactics don't work they are forced to reevaluate and reflect, or run away and are a step closer to entering that state. It has happened before that there is conflict, I set a boundary, they choose to run and years later the person comes back around and tells me how impactful I was once they've done some work. Like you said, we are mirrors.
That whole thing about not combining friends is so spot on!!! But as I've gotten older I've become unafraid to be me and show more of myself so now I can combine my closest friends. But still I do get anxiety about it when new people come into my life.
I only did the combining aspects of my life once...at my wedding. I invited people from my family, my church, and my work. I wasn't a drinker at that time of my life but I believe the whole event was so stressful that I disassociated that day. My wife remembers the whole affair in great detail 31 years later but I quite honestly only remember with any vividness the moment our reception was over and I changed clothes and got in the car with my new wife and left the venue!
Wow this resonates so much!! This has led to some massive friendship “breakups” because I dishonoured myself to help them feel seen, safe and supported in their world.. but I never let them into mine so it didn’t feel like an equal energy exchange and I never felt safe!
OMG! This happened to me a while back. After many years of being away from ambulance work, I decided I wanted to get my EMT license again to join a community emergency response group. One gentleman in the class made a comment about women's performance in the field and I countered with my own experience, not as a jab at him, but to add to the conversation at hand. The guy NEVER came back to class. My comment wasn't demeaning or snotty; it wasn't even directed at him. I was told by another fellow student that I was the reason he didn't come back. I was perplexed
God I trigger peoples egos in a demolishing kind of way all the time! Never mean to, just from being authentic, being real or having a real reaction to someones ego construct. Doh. Infj being an emotional mirror and all.
This happens in work environments all the time when it involves bad actors trying to force their way up the workplace social ladder at the expense of others. I'm very much problem resolution focused and have very little wiggle room with HR violations that make other people's experience at work a miserable one. I keep getting told that, "its all work places." The more I hear that the more I know my destiny will be in being self employed at some point. I was taught a great small talk technique from someone with severe ADHD that has helped me as an INFJ / Possible Asperger spectrum: Asking questions that get the other person to talk about things important to them. This works so well in that I can just absorb information that's actually important to the individual and help them feel validated while allowing me to hang in my observer mode. What's hard, but helps build relationships of trust, is pumping the brakes on my own desire to word vomit those observations. Its good to have someone to confide in, or take time to write observations down, I find this has a similar cathartic effect.
Thanks for sharing! You worded what was slowly emerging in my awareness. I need to not overdo my self and cross boundaries aka giving too much where I'm not needed or warranted until I know that the person likes me for me. It's definitely the people pleaser urge lol cause we know once we validate the person it makes them like us automatically. BUT that's what attracts and keeps around the narcissists. No thanks I'd rather come off as more cold now, see what the other person has to offer to me first. It's about the careful slow and steady give and take balance I think.
I understand everything you wrote Michael. I learned about the asking questions method pretty early on and it worked wonderfully for me when I was in any social situation. Never had to talk much about myself and risk judgement so I just learned about them. In my case I would come home and vomit all my observations to either my wife or a phone call to my dad.
Aspergurs is you being you and other ppl not innerstanding so they try to label you for their one egos sake. According to your personality your exactly who you’re supposed to be, done deal. Combing from an INFJ that thought he had ADHD just cuz he couldn’t focus on anything he didn’t give a single solitary fuck about.
Yeah, I'm a little late to the party, but you have it right... you need to have a base that is you. I've been "blessed" in finding my base early in life--I was so alienated by my peers as a kid, I had to do this just to survive! An INFJ base needs to be something that you are completely content with regardless of the fall out it may cause, or friends it may push away. As long as you accept yourself in this base area, you become invulnerable. You learn that if they can't accept you then they aren't really worth being your friends. And the best thing is, an INFJ rarely ever turns another away. It is almost always the other person turning away from the INFJ.
I think of myself as simply curious about other people's lives. I've just accepted that many people are not this way, and simply want to make themselves known to someone.
What I found very effective was placing boundaries on myself, with an insatiable curiousity it was necessary to place a boundary of, beyond this line is none of your business, and strickly enforce that boundary on myself. As an INFJ I have great respect for boundaries and respected my secret ones. I also made a habit of correcting myself to whomever I was speaking to and saying, what I just said isn't entirely the truth and would then be authentic and sincere, I was cured from wearing a mask by just a few encounters like this. We must master the power we have been born with, it has a purpose and when it is needed, we know how to use it to accomplish the best outcome rather than a nuke crater. Much love to my INFJ kin
I have difficulty regulating when someone is lying. I've turned into a monster over this form of insult. Monsters are not attractive; so, now I either walk away or think about my grandchildren or the Dalai Lama (not kidding). Love the INFJ tribe you created, Wenzes. Stay safe and be well. ♥
I completely became my friends mother out of empathy for her past traumas and never said what I truly thought about her and hide parts of me I had shared and she judged. She was very toxic with alcohol and confrontational. Her arrogance with money and being rude to service people rubbed me wrong. I built resentment of over giving myself to please comfort and avoid conflict. The relationship ended in a huge blowout. I vowed to never sacrifice myself for anyone and don’t care if that means they get hurt feelings or I end up alone. I had shared myself with this person and got judgement/shaming. I intend to make friends that can hold space for differences and still love me. People say they do but they truly deep down still judge and treat your differently, especially when it comes to values. Im still conflicted on how authentic to be
I can truly relate with this. But as I kept fighting for my own space,I realised there’s not much left for others to fill. ;I’ve stopped being loyal to friends and people who don’t deserve it. ;I’m able to speak up and stress on what I want. ;I believe most of these changes come as you age. 😇Glad hearing what you said From 15:00 -15:20 “I like who I am and who I am becoming “
I believe in the quote "you can't make an omelet without breaking an egg" Sometimes being harsh in a certain degree is neccessary to create boundaries and make some people understand. It's a difficult but essential practice for naturally polite and caring peeps like INFJs.
Wow, this was eye opening, and something I entirely resonate with. Being the social chameleon, while feeling like I am not being my true self with the people in my life. Thank you!
Super video, Wenzes! The biggest challenge for me in my pre-Myers-Briggs days, was hearing people complain, "I can't figure you out!" After listening to this video, I now better understand why. I remember many similar situations to what you're describing here, and I hear what you're saying about your reluctance to finally fight back. I was often afraid that (a) I might not be able to do it ... or ... (b) I might be "too" able to do it, and actually come across stronger than II realized, and end up saying things I'd regret later - as you said, a person who hurts people. Your decision to have a "base" that you won't change or shift for anybody made me think of other videos where you've also explained "boundaries" - I'm sure that this "base" has played a big part to play in your ability to set good, rational ones
Love this video. Took me a long time to understand this about myself. I have one friend that I’ve had since my teens. We both know what we like about each other and don’t like. The things we like we do together and the things we like that the other doesn’t is fine we just do those things with others. And if we go somewhere and sense the other is uncomfortable for whatever reason we leave, mostly together but occasionally separately. Hope every INFJ is as lucky to find an extrovert like her. She broadens my life and I give her a calm safe place.
this video is so insightful and spot on when i think back over the last 30 years of my life feeling pulled towards people who were in need of a shoulder, a friend, a listener, and an advocate. but, i also realised that i am a cycle breaker and i am truly unique (for the most part) in that, i share myself, sometimes (maybe always) i surprise myself how much i share as i have no filter whatsoever, and i know that the universe has a plan for each and every one of us and we are so meant to be exactly where we are at this very moment in time for an absolutely epic reason. i tend to be a catalyst for change when i often come across a truly genuine, but tortured soul on a journey where there are so many conflicted and tormented souls. mostly tormented by their own imprisoning minds, societal constructs, expectations, childhood trauma, regrets, shame, fear of letting others down, etc and basically every other reason under the sun that people adhere to in a misguided and fatal attempt of living a life that was never chosen by us. and all in order of not standing out in a crowd, and being forced to live a lie that is so alien to our true natures that it's no darn wonder any of us can think straight. let alone critically, and in a direction that clearly shows our honest and loving intent with no room or need to even think that we come with any agenda, other than empowering, building, and filling up that person's tanks of self love, self worth and most crucial/pivotal of all....going internal and finally, going back to the instinctive/intuitive "inner standing" of our true selves. instead of standing under other's proclamations of how we are to live our lives. it's a broken system of fear, suspicion, envy, divisive rhetoric and all by design. i think when we are aware of our true power to change things for the good, it shines. and like the law of attraction, others in need are drawn to that shine. i am very aware of how powerful my own unbreakable soul is, no matter what i've come up against, nor how much it's taken out of me. of course i have to recharge in my safe sanctuary of order and peace often..but i'm resilient, hilarious (;) ) very humble, down to earth and a massive lover of all life itself!....love and light to all who need it. we are all connected. we are all energy.
@@joyceadena i am so very glad to hear that and thank you so much for replying to my ramblings haha. love and light to you my beautiful unknown friend xxx
I really like your videos and your red hair! I was a full read head as a child but it changed to black, Red Heads 2%. My hazel eyes 5% and INfJ 1%-2%. I also like your videos I find it interesting such as everything else, but I already know 😂 naturally just like to hear it!😊 I always geared my intuition towards being a Pisces, but am 41 now and just this fall semester in one of my communication/journalism classes I learned of this due to a self assessment test, and I am an INFJ/A. Once I learned about it, I felt shocked how accurate it all matched!
Yup, been there many times. I was miserable and knew I am here for a purpose but sort of moved through life reserved. After I discovered I am INFJ, it,s like the universe handed me the manual I should've got in the womb 🤨 I told the last person I was helping, "It's time to go, this is your dream, not mine. I love you but I have to find me." The best thing I have ever done in my entire life 😁
I have broken relationships that meant a lot to me with one sentence, too many times in my past. It hurt me greatly. Have been growing in this area in recent years and it feels so empowering, even though there is some sadness at the loss of deeply knowing someone. Now I have a life too. I am worth investing in. The cost is worth the benefit. Thank you for what you do, Wenzes. :)
This is brilliant insight. When I don’t show others what I know they won’t like about me, I am complicit in the eventual conflict because they never got to know the full me. Wow. Thanks very much for this.
I'm in this situation right now , asking myself why all men I've been dating reach a time and see me as a cheap person. At first things go well but in middle, they start using me , being arrogant, disrespectful, manipulation. I was like why people always misunderstood me . It's so exhausting 😩.Am an easy going person, I can even wake up in the night and give someone a help . But people keep on bad things to me ,so hunting
Thank you 🙏. You’ve beautifully encapsulated what happens with me romantic relationships; I don’t do this with regular friendships. In my case I wouldn’t classify it as breaking egos. As you said I become so saturated with the other person (which is genuine) that I become unable to manage the negative (as invariably all relationships encounter). That negative eats away because I’m unable to address it. I feel if I do, it will show that I’m not inline with them and if I disagree with (insert issue) and they will walk away. The stress of it quite literally makes me ill and builds up deep resentment. I LOVE how you state that we need to invest in forming who we are as an individual and cement that in place in order to protect us from that over saturation of the other person.
9:10 --- I used to work in the same building where I happily volunteered on the weekends, doing something I loved. A new staff leader in the volunteer area was told by other people on staff that the version of me that she saw on the weekends was not the same person she might see walking around the halls during the week. People saw a stark difference, much more than I would have guessed.
I've had friendship problems all my life, but funnily enough, this possibility didn't even remotely cross my mind and I didn't even realize that I wasn't revealing ANYTHING about myself to others, even my closest friends. At the very most I'll just gloss over personal facts and what interests me because I'm afraid they'll find it boring and I'm afraid of talking too much. Now that you've put it all into words I've realized how silly I'm being.
I learned I had this power early in life (late 20s, but also I think not as clearly earlier in life) and told myself to be careful with it. (The ability to hurt another person deeply without even trying.) It was a bit shocking, but obviously true. For a child and later as an adult it can be quite scary to realize you have that power. With great power comes great responsibility. Feigning ignorance of it was not an excuse for fighting back in a way that was disproportionate to the slight... But if you are aware of it then you can decide if/when it is appropriate to use. It isn't always a bad thing. If you aren't aware of it then you can really hurt people who you care about in deep and lasting ways they will never forget (or at least that you will never forget). Also I love bringing people together from different aspects of my life as long as I feel it will be beneficial to them. I have to prepare my energy level and keep it time bound, but I learn so much about myself and others by sitting back and watching the interactions. Of course I plan activities in case there is a lull in conversation, etc. but more often than not they aren't needed as I have paired up people/groups that have much in common but enough different to make it interesting (plus I include a few who are good at keeping things going if I need a break). The latest one was about a year ago (harder with COVID), but it was amazing how everything flowed. I didn't have to bring out my plans to keep things going or my backup plan to my backup plan!!! I felt I could have left for an hour and things would have kept going...what am I, chopped liver??? I had a bunch of white elephant gifts prepared that I later used for an event at work and I enjoyed that people I invited on a whim and didn't think would attend were also there. I was so glad to see the great natural flow. It doesn't always work that way, but I feel most times that most people are glad they attended my events or smaller gettogethers. And I enjoy analyzing how people interact. Plus, of course, the people themselves. My daughter is also an INFJ. She used to talk about her different friend groups in elementary/middle school and how she had to manage getting along with the popular people/cheerleaders, the nerds, etc. while they didn't like to interact with each other. (I had to home school her through high school due to illness which has since resolved itself.) Thanks Wenzes for pointing out this power of INFJs. I feel it is important to recognize this so we can use it in a positive manner and not in a negative way as a natural reflex to being hurt. It is easy to not know our power to inflict precision jabs at another person, but often we know just where to hit. Just some thoughts and experiences I have had related to the topic. It certainly hit a nerve.
Yessss I've never realised my growth until I started speaking up in my truth. I didn't know this was a common struggle as an INFJ, I actually haven't looked into it enough. I just once did the test and wondered why there wasn't much info on my type so this is really awesome information 👏 thank you x
Phew. Thank you for breaking this down. I am living a new life post divorce and I want to attract people who know and like me now. And you specified exactly how to get this 🙏🏽
@@fictionwriter24 depending on the power dynamic of your relationship. For me, he has more power and had top narc traits. I hired a lawyer and made my moves in silent. I removed my emotions completely because switched to survival mode. Once my mind was made up, I knew I had to be strategic so that I can secure my future and not have been married in vain. Mind you, we were married for 11 years and once success was in the picture, I was gradually being devalued and discarded behind closed doors. That's why I left and blocked him and everyone (friends and family) that I made friends with for the duration of that marriage. I hope this helped.
@@fictionwriter24 Its been 9 months since I filed, and I've been in isolation mostly. Listening to a lot of RU-vid, attending a different and smaller church that focuses on doctrine, got gym membership, hired a life coach that focuses on cognitive brain therapy, booked some solo trips, reorganizing my environment, and a lot more I can't think of right now
Absolutely true!! Now I scratch the surface and back off when I’ve learnt as much as I can. I can easily get people to open up to me, and I relish in deepening my understanding of them and thrive on the knowledge of others. And yet.. they know nothing about me, unless I am ready to express more of myself. I used to crush my own spirit as well.
Hello Wenzes. Just found out that I'm an INFJ just recently so I started researching. I'm grateful to have found your channel. You're very inspiring ans helpful. Thank you.
Thank you. Being aware of my gifts happened around the age of reason. I spent my life not hiding who I was but doubling down when ever mis understood or excused for being direct and out of touch with trends or social direction. I know that I have benefited many people in my world travels simply by planting the right seed in their heads that would eventually germinate in the future and then I just continued My own journey down the Path of life. Being mis understood and unfairly judged by the “less in-tune”, became just a part of life that I accepted and never let that get in the way of being who I knew I was. I also had the added burden (curse) of possessing a high intelligence quotient so many people were even more avoidant of me so I adapted and chose to appear less fortunate so that more would listen to my “words of help” and improve their lives so I quit my 6 figure career and became an organic farmer to help my local community focused on orthomolecular and health. Now I was an old farmer and most people project and demonstrate attitudes toward me akin to being smarter, more successful and better than me. I then help them and they don’t even know it. I embrace their discrimination and judgement because it allows me to use my strengths, improve people lives and they think it is all their doing. Everyone benefits. I really sympathize with those INFJs who struggle with the acceptance and adaptation however, after watching a few of your videos, I believe that you are providing a benefit to our very small community of like minded. Keep helping! Everyone is different and that is a good thing. Enjoy the journey
Thank you for this video. So many things have been going on lately and I feel the need to change for better personal development. I had this friendship a year ago since I was trying my best to know everything about him (and I was really good at it). But then somehow this friendship got worse not in a hostile way but we just feel we were not friends anymore. I guess that's because I was trying to change myself(for personal growth) and show him my authentic side. The friendship got worse because of the fact that there are some true parts of me that he felt.. well... he disliked. And I was kind of sad and kept trying to find the remedy for this friendship till now. Now I realized that once you show people the true part of yourself there is a chance of them disliking (which is why I, as an INFJs, would always hide before I decide to change for personal growth). Now I know that was the price because I was prioritizing myself over others, so it is fine to do so and it is fine that he does not like you as he used to. So yeah, basically I think I should prioritize myself over other people more. Thank you for this video and for clarifying this.
Greetings. To answer the question, yes I have. This scenario happened naturally before ever realizing I'm an INFJ, my intuitive abilities that God blessed me with allowed me to take a stand against a narcissistic employer that resulted in a settlement that excelled my future, and benefitted many others close to me and their future. Wenzes I've listened to quit a few INFJ coaches and your one of my favorites. I'm attached but if I wasn't, me and you together, world look out! And by the way, your stare is intoxicating.
What you said about the emotional high of diving into someone elses life resonated with my dating history. I never had a "type". I've dated a very diverse group. Admittedly its a small group but none are similar in looks, lifestyle, careers...
I know who I am. I know what I want. I learned not to settle or compromise as a teen. It just doesn't turn out well for the other person. Then they blame me when they were the one saying, "Give me a chance."
The part of the video that asked how easy would it be to bring everyone together, that made me think of how a lot of my friends have opposing spiritual/religious views and sometimes differing political views that if all my friends were to meet, a lot would probably start to fight with one another. Heaven forbid I ever meet a guy and have a wedding. The wedding would turn into a brawl before any ceremony would even begin just from my family and friends having opposing religious/spiritual views. The Christians and atheists would be debating the Bible while the Bahais and spiritual agnostics and Jews would probably be drinking pop and dancing.
I have exactly the same … a sort of diaspora that I can’t imagine coming together 😅 It’s nice to hear I’m not the only one who doesn’t have this cohesive “community” of friends 🙏🏼🧚♀️ To your point about arguments…. Don’t know if this is relevant to you but I’ll share anyway - As an INFJ I filter out a lot of people…. Especially the kind of people who identify so much with their beliefs that they can’t coexist with others. … since I’m wired for harmony and connection, right? If I notice someone has a tendency to argue and try to convince others that their beliefs are “right”… it’s actually a red flag for me.
You know, for someone who now, wasn't always this way, has no one around and certainly no one understands. Just listening to these/your vids is like getting high lol. It is really nice and produces a very nice feeling. Much appreciated! You have made my day better for sure.
Idk but I am going throu this phase in my life, where I finally started to express myself and everyone around me has started to seeing me as a ghost. It's an overwhelming situation. The resentment inside me has builtup so much that I finally decided to distant myself from all those people and now they can't deal with them. I can feel it's more because of their hurt ego than their likeness for my love and attension.
Alot of the comments are missing the point of what you're discussing - making ourselves vulnerable, being authentic & strong, not codependent ect. Thanks for talking about our weaknesses to turn into strengths.
I had a 2 month fling with a woman from tinder. She had INFG in her profile didn't bother to look it up thought it was just a one night stand. This explains so much. High intensity talking about the future. I loves, I feel safe with you etc etc. She is single mom go getter from a rich family. Im not nearly as ambitious. She would flip and tear me down for being broke but would apologize cry and say she didn't mean it. Until the final time she tried to get as cruel as she possibly could. It's like she research how to hurt me. I thought it was covert narcissism hell I still don't know but dam this makes sooooooooo much sense .
Anyone who gets close enough may get to glance into my secret world. But there are parts of me I don't share and have never shared with a single soul on earth. Feelings I can't verbalise. Maybe that's why some people don't get me. But then thats also quite lonely too. Like bring the only unicorn in a field of horses
🤣 i completely understand what you're saying, i have also done this like my whole life but, the different is i still be my self when diving to the other person world. so yeah, i'm not changing behavior when meet one or other person. people pleasing is not really my thing. i see everyone as equal. it's just excite me that you can explain this. Hint for all INFJ : It is impossible to make everyone like us, accept and face it 🤣
I keep doing this and afterwards I feel terrible. The thing is , it’s triggered by their own narcissistic ( or what I’m beginning to think it is anyway, according to stuff I’m learning lately) behavior towards me. Then I’m stuck feeling this tension and bad energy off of them even though they were being a certain way first. I can always tell when I went too low though and ironically I do love this person ( if they are narcissistic I think they’re not on the extremely high side of the narcissistic scale ) so I literally feel terrible that I did that but really I’m just shielding from their obnoxious behavior but projecting it back at them . Not by behaving like them and I’m not doing this for revenge but just to say look at yourself , it’s yours and I’m not going to take it but why do I feel so terrible about it afterwards ?? 😏
YESSSSS So good to hear I am not the alone. I am definitely the person who likes one on one. One time I went to lunch with a friend I adored and she brought her friend who was so obnoxious. I was really bummed out and annoyed.
I am very critical, and apparently many say I sometimes can be very intimidating, I can relate to this, we have the power to crush someone without even using slurs, our tongues can cut true through the soul.
This brings up something that people have mentioned to me ... the fact of being a chameleon. Many of the times I don't want to rock the boat and keep things easy going. This drove some exes crazy.
Oh boy this hit hard. Ripping someone apart is never fun, it’s not fun to watch, receive or do. In fact it feels like what you might imagine having your guts ripped out and put on display for the world to see, would feel like. At least, that’s what it feels like for me.
Exactly, I didn't like who I was when I said something hurtful to someone. So, I just ended up avoiding them because their actions seemed to bring out the worst in me. sigh
This caused me so many problems. I think this si why I'm so distant from everyone and new people right now because I don't know how to not lose myself anymore. Doesn't help that I have social anxiety which makes showing myself even harder. I can now, but it does not feel natural and takes so much emotional effort.
It's amazing how you hit the ball out of the park about infj's!! I've only known I'm an infj for a short while... and EVERYTHING you say hits home. It's very comforting to know I'm not completely crazy! And there's others like myself. Nit many! Hahaha but some. So I thank you!
This relates to an old version of me before I started researching Charisma. I've moved on to MBTI and the growth from there has made me a person who berry remember my old miserable self. Studying Charisma taught me to put myself out there and be controversial. MBTI teaches me to trust what I'm already doing. Thank you Wenzes💕
I recently had to input data into an Excel document. About 7 people had congregated around me, talking, laughing, and I finally told them to leave me alone, to leave the area, just go. Those who know me, left with no comment. But, some were offended by my brusqueness. lol, I needed to do that task, and they needed to leave me alone, it was my work area! most are okay with me now. and if not, well, that's on them.