Why The Live Action Winx Is Like... That. 

Basically, Fate wouldn't have had so much backlash if it wasn't linked to the Winx Club. It could have been its own thing and just gotten complaints about story writing, budget, and lack of diversity. Instead, it tried to be a "darker" and different version of Winx club so much that no one would know it is related to the Winx club if they didn't mention it, which made its flaws even more pronounced.

What pisses me off so much about this is that the "darker elements" that they felt they had to add, THEY DIDNT NEED TO. Bloom is literally the last living survivor of HER ENTIRE PLANET, Stella struggles with her parents being divorced THEN has to deal with her Dad remarrying a woman who literally tries to replace her with her own bratty daughter, Aisha/Layla's FIRST STORYLINE is her trying to overcome her intense lonliness as she's shoved into an already established friend group THEN her planet gets attacked by the season 3 bad guy THEN she loses her bf. HALF OF THEM nearly DIE getting their Enchantix. One of which was Tecna, WHO THEY THOUGHT DIED AND THEN DECIDED THAT THEY COULDNT STAY TOGETHER AS THE WINX CLUB BECAUSE TECNA WASNT APART OF IT ANYMORE. Musa struggles with the death of her Mother....LIKE ALL the elements to make it dark was freaking there and they just IGNORED IT because "haha LOL this pretty in pink girl show"

After watching Fate, it became apparent to me that the creators fundamentally misunderstood what parts of Winx Club made it a success. It is a magical girl show at its core. You can't satisfy a magical girl audience without color, transformations, or friendship. Those are key tenets of the genre. This grimdark aesthetic would have been far more successful in a W.I.T.C.H. It wouldn't be surprising if Disney were to announce something within the next year or so. I'd personally prefer a continuation of the cartoon adapting the later volumes of the comics.

It is funny to me that they believe that women as main demographic is something bad.... Hello Kitty, Disney Princesses and Barbie are one of the best selling franchises. Pokemon has a big female demographic and caters to them with cute designs and such. Lets talk music, Ariana, BTS, Ed Sheeran and Taylor Swift, have huge female demographics and are selling monsters. Let's take a closer look to bts, stores and brands are begging for collabs and partnerships for the amount of clout and buying power they bring to brands. Their way of thinking is outdated and annoying.

Have to disagree on the Bloom-Sky-Stella love triangle being one of the few good things. Stella literally wanted to get Bloom KILLED (by sending her to a dangerous area) because she TALKED to her EX boyfriend. Whereas in the original Winx, love triangles where never a thing because the story is about friendship and not fighting over some man. Otherwise amazing video and I agree with everything.

How you managed to connect batman to winx club to sailor moon and then compare grim dark magical girls with game of thrones. Chef's kiss we have to stan.

About there being no cat-fight-y moments in the Bloom/Sky/Stella-love triangle: I disagree. Bloom didn't really do anything , that's true, but Stella was constantly making it clear that she considered Sky "hers". Whenever she witnessed him and Bloom together, she would insert herself into their conversation, often intimately touch Sky in front of Bloom and afterwards throw death glares at her. In the very first episode she sends Bloom away to possibly die in the woods, just because Sky showed interest in her. What also put me off about the whole love triangle was that it's yet another teen-drama that asserts girls cannot possibly be friends right away or be mature about their relationship, they have to be catty and possessive when it comes to romance. I liked that Winx Club didn't feel the need to turn Stella into a stereotypical mean girl who Bloom has to assert dominance over by stealing her boyfriend. But hey, all the '''''''''mature'''''''' shows have love triangles and women hating each other for minuscule reasons, so of course the Winx-reboot had to crowbar that in. /s

My little pony was popular with men and never got cancelled I remember in the early days of bronies becoming a thing, there were all these think pieces of how cool it was that men were embracing a cartoon that was very girly and was about friendship and feelings. Turns out a good portion of bronies were the worst.

Aisha/Leyla has such a damn good arc in the original story. I genuinely hate the "token black best friend" trope. I'm a white woman. My best friend from High school is black. If anybody tried to mention that trope around us, we would rip them a new one. Or...I would. My friend is too nice for that.

Even the Live Action Scooby Doo was solid in my opinion. It was modern and edgy, but still embraced the cheesy humor of the source material

i KNEW batman was the one to blame edit: "it just felt more mature because it wasnt super girly". thats it. youve cracked the code, finally thats what its been under all those claims of maturity. god. why are guys, and media in general, so terrified of girliness???

as a "20-something", their apparent "target audience", i literally have no interest in watching a show about teenagers born in the 2000s. they could made this a nice show about college girls and their sisterhood. like i've BEEN through what you're attempting to show me 🧍🏾‍♀️ i'm getting nothing new from that, and there's many shows that can give me the exact same thing. everything about this felt so rushed, lazy, and there were SO MANY missed opportunities. this should've been a relatively easy show to reboot, netfllix actually had no input in the production and i'm starting to think they should've 🙄 i'm super disappointed as a girl who saw someone who looked like her and her friends on tv for the first time with winx club. and the first b*tches i'm gonna smack are brian young and iginio straffi-- anyways, amazing video, thank you so much for the 30 minutes of content ❤ don't be scared to make long videos! you structure them super well, they're easy to keep up with and they feel a lot shorter than what they actually are, because they're so good that you're not thinking about the time. it's like a class with your favorite teacher. i'll wait patiently for the next one ☝🏾

At this point, it's refreshing to see adaptations that aren't afraid of looking a little silly. I find it quite charming to find one that both loves the source material and isn't afraid of looking a little goofy as well.

I think the "women dont buy merch" has roots in women being housewives stereotype, men work and earn money and pursue their interests women stay home and cook

And you're so right about people thinking girlyness means that its immature and childish, thats such a bad mindset, magical girl shows like ojamajo doremi (which I recommend) has silly and funny moments, but its not afraid to strive towards more serious or "darker" topics, it not about whether it has dark stuff in it, its about how its executed

"Girls don't like comics." I am a girl who read comics, reads manga, and watches cartoons and anime!

They coded bloom red when she was originally coded teal and Aisha was color coded green. You know who was coded with red??? MUSA

I too was disappointed that they didn't have wings or transform. I like your idea for the finale where they all transform into a fairy form. It would unite the girls more and then in season 2 it could be about people trying to break their bond. It's been hate watched enough season 2 is happening 🙄

this show could've been so huge, just style it properly, and use the storylines from the original. what's so childish about that storyline of sky and Brendan switching to protect sky from a the**orist attack? what's so childish about the girls NOT fighting over boys? what's so childish about having three separate schools for different types of people, as well as advanced technology being part of the setting? like damn. MAKE IT HYPER FEMININE I think ppl would've been receptive to it rn bc we all want to escape reality. I was so disappointed about what they've done that I also made a long video about this show, restyling and remaking the setting, bc it was all right there.

Could you imagine a Transformers movie without the giant robot fights or a GI Joe movie without explosions but since it's a girly girl property or chick flick we can't have fun self indulgent special effect power fantasy because that's not cool enough, it would look ridiculous. No more ridiculous than all these spandex clad superheroes out now.

instead of trying to make media that is “capable” of appealing to boys, let’s instead make it okay for men to enjoy “feminine” media. a live action winx that is true to the source material, and the amazing storyline that came with it, would be *the* way to go to achieve that.

I just want a big pink castle with awesome female friendships that can address things like jealousy but are ultimately are girls supporting girls and wearing cute outfits. Like those outfits from Fate where just hideous. No teenager would wear that.

My heart is so broken. Young justice was such a big part of my childhood and that interview just showed me that misogyny killed my favourite show.

Sometimes you just wanna sit down and watch a bunch of glittery girls fight villains with glittery magic

I have watched a LOT of Fate reviews but yours is my favourite by far. I'm really glad someone reviewed the show without skipping out on talking about the whole grimdark teen show trend. Its also disappointing how they were SO afraid to step out of Riverdale's blueprint to the point that they didn't even make the logical decision to capitalize off the Y2k fashion trend, which was not only a core part of the series but is also having a huge revival. I guarantee that everything else about the show could have been of the same mediocrity but if they got the fashion right people would have loved it and instagram would have been full of winx inspired lookbooks. But for some reason they literally hired the costume designer from desperate housewives. I guess they cared more about the negative publicity than any kind of originality anyway. Lots of people are saying this show would have been better if the show wasn't attached to the Winx name and while thats probably true, no one would have wanted to watch it because, as you said, there are a million other shows doing exactly what they are doing. They used the og fan's outrage as their main form of marketing, and I mean it definitely paid off for them, seeing as they're trending on netflix, but its such a cheap trick. Anyway, super fantastic video, I'm so glad I found your channel.

"Girls aren't into comics." Me, a woman who has a captain America tattoo and references the Avengers like I would literally die without referencing the Avengers...you're right. Girls aren't into comics. We're into COMIC BOOK MOVIES. Seriously, tho. I am *livid* about the Winx Club being disrespected like this.

You, and chai tii on youtube- two Black girls...had better ideas and points about Winx then the people who worked on this show. Part of it is that they hire older people who still thinks it's the grimdark, edgy CW 2011 TVD, Teen Wolf leather jacket running in the woods era- Sabrina gets away with this bc it's based on a horror comic, and honestly? Was a pretty good show (tho part 3 was terrible!)...GEN Z actually like colorful, y2k (futuristic) things and Winx could've been adapted to fit that perfectly. I'm here for Totally Spies, W.I.T.C.H. or Scooby-Doo having a new, well budgeted adaption that is perfectly made for a Gen Z audience of people under 26. The 2000s films of Scooby, and Josie and The Pussycats did it so well. Winx stumbled...it's sad.

Such good expansion of different interconnected themes.

That's why tower prep was cancelled????!!!! I'm mad all over again. And yes some love for Sailor Moon live action, I don't care how corny and cheesy it may have been it was fun and sincere and cast like to get together from time to time. Keiko Kitagawa looks like a baby here.

I thought it was so weird that 3 men in their late twenties-early thirties at my work praised the Fate so much I shocked they watched the same show that I did until I saw the beginning of this video. The showrunners really just left the people who watched Winx as kids demographic in the dust.

PGSM obviously didn't have a big budget but I still love the transformations and costumes, because you can see they put a lot of love into it. They even made some little adjustments in the costumes and I love it! I'm sick of Fate stans saying they can't make a live action exactly like the cartoon. They can, they just don't care enough.

Great video! This made me think of the rumor that Naoko might take over writing hunter x hunter for togashi if necessary, and so many people were like “noooo she could never handle the themes in hxh”. Please, sailor moon is RIGHT there put some respect on her work. But it’s classically girly so it’s not taken seriously ofc 😪

As a magical girl fan, I respect all magical girls from Sally to Madoka. I would hate it if they were all the same. Let each magical girls embrace their own traits.

im beyond pissed af to see that Stella became "the mean girl" she was my favorite in the og show,,she was so nice and helpful, hell, she was the one who helped Bloom in the first place How could people ruin these things and expect everyone to like it?

24:01 The fact that in one minute you just rewrote the ending to have a payoff that was actually worthwhile AND included a cliffhanger that could be expanded upon in the sequel just snatched my wig! If only we got a fraction of this in the real show...

I’m a winx fan I wish they could scrap this show and start all over. Like please I’m praying they have to start from scratch. I’m Latina and I was so sad to see flora was gone.

oh. my. god. the whole "we gotta sell to BOYS only" corporate talk at 13:30 got me so mad! wtf is that shit?? what else other than pure sexism would that be?? the creators have no issue creating interesting plots, why not let girls enjoy shit???

What annoys me the most is what they did to Stella. Like, in the original show she’s spoiled and fashion obsessed, but she’s also still a really good friend and person! I hate that shows always have the spoiled character be a asshole because it’s waayyy over-done. Stella was a refreshing character that shows that just because your pretty and confident, doesn’t mean your a mean girl. I hated that they just diminished Stella into a stereotypical misunderstood mean girl. 😤

If Disney announces live action WITCH, for the love of GOD could they stick with the books. Just the books. Not even the animated series.

Remember watching the trailer and was like "Oh someone is really trying to appeal to Vampire Diaries demographic..." and now I'm not even surprised to learn that one of the showrunners was part of Vampire Diaries... And like these self-fulfilling prophecies are the worse and many times they themselves force them I remember that I followed many fans of Young Justice and one of the main complaints is that it didn't have enough toys and most toys were made of the cheaper quality and pretty expensive so many fans didn't waste their money on it and them they blamed poor toy sales on the cancelation

I was kinda shook of the memo the man saying that their didn’t like that girls was the bigger fan base and that this was the reason why they canceled it wtf , sounded so Wrong on so maaaany lvls

People who laud Madoka as the first and only subversive magical girl anime have not watched much magical girl genre. I remember being absolutely devastated when I was younger by the twist in Kamikaze Kaitou Jeanne

Unrelated but also reminder to everyone that the Batman show had a black catwoman before the upcoming Robert pattinson Batman movie did. Dunno why but I just love pointing this out to some folks

I feel so understood by this video.....as OG fan it made me mad Techna was excluded....and almost everything....and loss of transformations. If Power Rangers could be made realistically a DECADE AGO...with budget restrictions...WINX could have been made better.

Man I love "girly" things, they tend to be more well made because the people who make them aren't doing it for the money, as much anyway.

I completely forgot what this video was about until the 17 minute mark. I was just vibin and than shocked to my core about what the premise of this video was.

god if they dare to touch W.I.T.C.H. with their dirty live action hands its on sight fellas that comic was and still is my whole world and i am terrified of some big corporation messing it up.

Tower Prep used to be one of my favorite shows. I’m still angry that it was cancelled and the reasoning why is just so insulting and ridiculous.

11:56 "Because boys don't like romance stuff" My 13-year-old brother watching romance anime like his life depends on it: 😀✋ then what am I?

It just hits diffrent when you said "It just felt more mature because it was less girly" that hit hard.

The show would've been decent. if it wasn't connected to Winx. Winx the cartoon was pretty shallow in terms of story, but the music, transformations, fashion, and the idea it self is what made it ICONIC, them removinig everything that made Winx, you know WINX, was a slap on the fact to anyone who grew up with Winx. The connections you made are outstanding, i would've never thought about those things, Amazing video, always love to hear your takes.

for the love of god, I pray that NOBODY touches the W.I.T.C.H comics... those are one of the best pieces of media I have ever consumed to this day. the story arcs were so compelling and mostly always adressed a bigger issue without being preachy or boring. The characters were so well written every single time, making them think and act like ACTUAL teenagers and having problems most if not all teens could relate to. The magic was never the focal point and I believe that is what makes them stand out and so good. When I think about how I took all my 25+ books and threw them in the garbage I want to cry... Stupid 14-year-old me. If anyone knows if and where I can buy them again, let me know

Honestly when I watched fate: Winx saga I felt as if I'm watching W.I.T.C.H instead, they looked like witches more than FARRIES .

why didnt they use the original names for the teachers who tf is "Ms. Dowling"

My two favorite anime’s are Magic Knight Rayearth & Princess Tutu so your part on magical girl subversion made my day. Agree 100% with everything you said

I've been binging Winx Fate Saga analysis and enjoying them all. Yours was hexcellent AND I'M SO GLAD you brought up Princess Tutu. Madoka was good but it was 100% orginal ground breaking like people seem to enjoy claiming. It's also a wonderful example of how you can combine Dark & Glittery. Dealing with mature themes and also fun. (but tbf I am incredibly biases cause I love that show beyond words)

yessss, gonna go get a coffee and settle in 😌☕

What made Winx so amazing was the amazing fashion, bright colors, diversity, and the strong bond the girls had. You could tell that these characters genuinely cared for and about each other. These young ladies were smart, gorgeous, kind hearted, and became heroes of their world not because they were born into it, but because they CHOSE to take a stand and protect their world. Seeing women step into heroic roles while maintaining their femininity was unheard of, especially for younger women. The Winx weren’t overly sexualized, and each of them looked like real people in our world.

About Tower Prep, I constantly fought my brain on this because for the longest time as a teen, I thought I made the show up, but I was also insistent that it existed, so to see it talked about settles it for me. I never knew why they cancelled it, but ig because it was bringing in the girls. Ironically, the show they replaced it with, Level Up, was also something I watched when I saw it. That's the stupid thing about this, I literally don't care if the show is a "boy show" if I become attached to it, I _WILL_ watch it no matter what. Ben 10, Generator Rex, Thundercats 2011, Sym-Bionic Titan, fuck yes I watched them, as well as watching Winx Club, Steven Universe, Magical DoReMi, My Little Pony, and Bratz. It did _not_ matter to me, really it didn't. I find it funny they mentioned Young Justice because when I saw that in this video, I was thinking "Well maybe you shouldn't have made all the characters hot!" I was really a simp for all the guys on The Team when I first watched it, but I also super love action and fight scenes. Besides, I will never not love Robin, it can't just be me that always had a crush on him in whatever cartoon he was in. I'm sure there were also a lot of other girls that watched the show purely for the action and story, too. MARKETING?! GIRLS DON'T BUY TOYS?! Shit, put _anything_ on a purse or backpack and I will want it, I love collecting those. I look at Hot Topic every month and see backpacks for shows/media I don't even watch and I'm like "I kinda _need_ that, though". Also, I love figures, just make figures, put it on jewelry, earrings, bracelets, all that. Like he said, just put a character on an umbrella. BTS, the world famous group, has a line of characters with Line Friends, and they have merch of everything under the sun. All they needed to do was do that, these characters are cute and have sold out so many items, literally any product you could think of. They just don't know how to sell, CN's really trash with that. They killed Gen Rex, Sym-Bionic Titan and Thundercats 2011, just because they couldn't sell the toys for them, despite the fact that they were pretty popular. Gen Rex got the better end of the stick, it at least had an ending, despite CN knocking it off the air during the second season. I had only faint memories of _one_ episode of S3 and the rest was practically new to me (except for the very ending, which I had seen when they were airing it on CN at 6 IN THE MORNING in like 2013). Not to mention it came on *right* after Ben 10, and the basic structure of the shows were similar (though they were very different too), "Teenage boy fights [blank] but also is/can turn into it as well, and is pretty much the world's protector." (Also includes The Secret Saturdays. And actually even Steven Universe now that I think about it, though SU isn't action heavy with a boy market). All in all, as someone else here said, Fate could've just not been Winx and then it wouldn't have been dragged as hard, but because they told us "This is a WINX show for all the WINX fans who liked WINX CLUB!" it hurts x10 worse that it's like this. Life is already depressing, I wanna see glitter and fashion and the power of friendship, damn it! It's obvious they just used the name thinking they could lure us in, which ig _kinda_ worked because I saw a lot of fans saying they were going to "See what it's like" when it dropped, so idk. But seriously, they could've called it something else. If I hadn't seen that was Winx, if someone showed me a trailer, no dialogue, I wouldn't think that's Winx at all.

I think I would’ve like winx fate saga if they didn’t use the word winx

funny that batman and robin was hated, yet its my favourite batman movie, and the one my dad and mum have seen the most times... and as for madoka, i liked it. it was short, but it didnt need to be long, and honestly, i think the best thing was the asthetic for the witch's labrynths, with the weird, experimental animation and art, mixing horror and fairy tale, which set it apart from other magical girl subversions, making it stand out. it was good, but the attention it gain lead to an oversaturation of grimdark magical girls, not all of which were that good. and i still prefer precure, which, like winx, has bright colours, pretty outfits, themes of friendship and growing as people, tense situations, heartfelt, emotional moments and a good story that non fans often overlook due to the bright, sparkly, girly surface. and that guy saying girls dont buy toys? not true. tho some of us are a little nervous about doing so due to stigma created by people like him. i can think of pleanty of times when i have looked into male clothing sections and seen the t-shirts of stuff i enjoy, then go into the girls section and its all glitter, good vibes, unicorns and disney. i only recently picked up the confidence to actually go and buy the t-shirts from the male section. and its the same with toys. i have looked at countless figurines and thought "i want that, but i'm a girl and girls aren't supposed to like that." then my brother would buy them and i'd play with them more than him. its not about not wanting them, its about desisions to market exclusively to boys, to create an image that only boys can like thais stuff, to put the toys in separate aisles depending on weather its marketed to girls and boys. if you put the action figures next to the barbies, showed girls playin with them in tv adverts aswell as boys, then more girls would buy them. i know its different now, but that wasnt the case when i actually wanted that sort of thing, instead of the manga and lego minifigs i collect now. and i went to see the dora movie in cinema and really enjoyed it, as a girl the same age as dora is supposed to be in the film and who watched the cartoon (albeit only occasionally at friend's houses, it wasn't on any of the channels i had access to at home before i grew out of it) as a 3-6 year old. it was bright and colourful, used tropes from the cartoons, but made them into good jokes, with one of my favourite lines actually being the "can /you/ say extreme neurotoxicity?" joke, and the confusion her parents showed whenever she turned to the camera. all the callbacks to the original cartoons, whilst making it more realistic to match the medium, jokes for both the kids and the parents, along with an interesting story that was reletively high action but still easy enough and tame enough for the younger audience, characters who i could get invested in and actually care about their relationships, and it was a team of 5 with even less time than fate had. sure, its adapting something completely different from winx, but i see it as proof that 1) an older actress can look like a 16 year old if you dress them correctly, 2) you can become invested in characters and their relationships with less than an hour if you do it correctly and 3) you dont have to be grimdark to be a good live action adaption of a cartoon.

Finally, someone who also appreciates the Josie and the Pussycats movie for what it is

I'm still not sure why we don't have a Pretty Cure fighting game.

Love your thoughtful and insightful takedown/breakdown. I was never a WInx fan (was in a different place at the time) but I was interested. Boys v Girl is so stupid when it comes to media. JUST BE GOOD (and have decent PR) and the audience will show up.

Subbed, because you gave me a heart attack with the W.I.T.C.H. question. The poor girls already suffered through 1 bad adaption... just the flashbacks of Blunk....

What's the point of having a shield if people can just leave

If power rangers managed to have a transformation sequence I don't know what was holding them up

You mentioned princess tutu you made me super happy love it 😭😭

Fate is already the name of a gigantic franchise, they couldn't even be original with the name.

Apparently the actress who plays Terra was supposed to be flora but, they the backlash and quickly changed it or something. Idk it's just a rumor I've heard.

This is the first of your videos I've seen, and I hit subscribe the moment you started talking about Precure lol. Nodoka and Rabirin's conversation in the latest HealPre episode was way more mature than anything Fate and its faux edgy adultness could hope to manage.

literally the show would’ve been fine if it wasn’t marketed under winx LIKE THERES NO SIMILARITIES APART FROM THE NAMES😭😭 but nostalgia marketing🤪🤪

Ok, but I LOVE that you mentioned Pushing Daisies. I loved that show

Great video Aishyo! Very well written, edited, and well spoken. What editing software do you use? The more I watched your video the more I though about My Little Pony?? I never realized it but MLP is kinda like a magical girl series. I probably also thought about it because I don't watch much anime and I dont really have anything else to compare winx to. But it seems to follow the pattern you presented in the beginning. Though MLP remained a girly show, even after the it gained a male fan base, i felt like that gave the show more legitimacy and therefore, more money. not to mention the toys/marketing started to be catered to male fans who prefer action figures as opposed to toys made for children that are supposed to be softer to play with. I can definitely see the pattern of 'it's too girly' seen as the reason why the winx adaptation was such a failure. like the show seemed to give so much visual development and things to do, but of course they played it safe. when they were talking about the 'girls dont buy toys' i rolled my eyes. in the end what is bought for the child comes down to the parents and if the parents are homophobic or transphobic they probably will stick to buying gendered toys. thats the real problem. just because a toy is pink or blue doesn't mean that it's "not for you". boys shows i think tend to be greenlit more because as girls and young women we're supposed to be also into it. we're taugh to identify more with men in media, see male media with more legitimacy, higher stakes, etc. whereas things for girls tend not to be as gender neutral. there's not such a big pushback for a girl wanting to play with batman and joker action figures as opposed to a boy wanting to play with dolls and wear dresses. though hopefully that's changing now. I also think that maybe another big problem at hand is that the male creators behind female adapted TV shows and movies might have a bias towards the female fanbases of these properties. kind of like how in the big bang theory all the girls who are into cosplaying or comic books are fat, ugly, weird, etc. except for some 'cool girls' they throw in later for good measure. so maybe they want to make things more 'masculine' or grittier in order to not attract 'women like that'. idk just a thought /shrug. anyway, good video and sorry for my long comment T.T

I was binging your stuff yesterday! now I've been blessed with brand new content! this has to be one of my favourite video essays ever. I live the way you interwove different themes and instances of the dark reimagining

Normalize blaming everything on Batman

THANK YOU for talking about PGSM! I recently introduced a good friend of mine to PGSM and we finished our together-apart-watching of PGSM a few weeks ago just before Fate was released. Both of us grew up on Winx Club, both of us deeply love and enjoy the magical girl genre and we talked so much about the teaser and trailer of Fate and both of us were so sad that this show obviously wouldn't stay faithful to the sourcematerial. PGSM would have been an amazing role model for a live action adaptation of Winx. All the clues and instructions on how to approach it and make it more mature without losing any of its charme or humour were there but heeey - why should we get creative and try to figure out how to stay true to the original when we can just copy the dark, gritty, edgy formula for the 100th time? It is very nice to see someone else appreciating PGSM for what it is. And I totally agree that we as a society need to stop treating "girly stuff" as less mature than "boys' stuff". I will defend my magical girls and cheezy romcoms anytime. Thank you for this amazing video! :)

Why am I just noticing that the author of the hypothetical book series Faerie Chronicles is called Ima Fakename 🤣🤣

Ok but your idea with the transformation change would have been so cool!!! Like have the power to "defeat " the burned ones be when you work together and not alone. (Cause it could tie back to why the other older specialist and fairies couldn't "defeat" them back in the war.) Also, that could tie into one of elements of the oringal show too.

I'm so happy you mentioned Pretty Guardian Sailor Moon

Wasn't expecting for my all time favourite tv show Pushing Daisies to be mentioned in a Fate: the Winx Saga review!

My mind was blown when you mentioned Tower Prep. I loved that show growing up. Learning the reason why the show was canceled was heartbreaking. They need to bring the show back

6 minutes into the video and I completely forgot this was a Winx video lol

They should have named Be A Trix Wot The Fuk.

Marked industries: * Gets so angry that girls dont buy toys that they cancel shows* Also marked industries: *Dosnt give the girls time to buy anything cause soon as they see girls in audience they cry.* yes i talking to you teen titans :(

Fate was sad. Not really bad it was ok it wasn't good either just sad. Why they gotta do us like that?

how do you not have more subscribers? The quality of your videos is increadible, and your videos are so fun to watch!

I love W.I.T.C.H and grew up with the 4kids dub of Winx and I loved them both. I wish the live action version of Winx wasn't so souless. I hope W.I.T.C.H. get's a fun adaption.

Ehh, I’d say that Bloom was also a SUPER DUPER SPECIAL CHOSEN ONE in the cartoons too. Special powers, special princess, special destiny. She took over the show more and more, I remember being shocked that in s4 she was the main singer of the band they made when Musa was literally THE music girl the entire series. Most storylines in the series revolved around her. So whatever this terrible show did to make Bloom super special, it wasn’t anything crazy when the original series was the same.

Yes to the PGSM mention!! It doesn't get the love it deserves. Awesome video.

I hated Bloom. Of course, other characters were unlikable but Bloom gave me a lot Feyre from ACOTAR vibes if you know what I mean.

You kinda slapped me with the W.I.T.C.H question....i had forgot them as a possibility since it was never as big as winx

When I was a kid and I discovered that Winx were an Italian creation (I am Italian) I was so so proud. I remember that my uncle who used to live in Slovakia at the time, brought me a Winx blanket as a present and I was shocked and pleased to discover they were also known outside of Italy. However I think it will come as no surprise that I am so very disappointed by this Netflix adaptation that has nothing to do with Winx apart from the name. There was so much potential and it was wasted.

I like you so much - how this whole video was set up.. so good. “More mature because it wasn’t so girly” !!!

This will be a little long but things need to be said: I got recommended your channel mainly due to AMY LEE. I saw you comment on her channel about butterfly clips and I fully agree on that haha. This is my first video of yours I am watching and I adore your personality so much. Now about this whole Winx deal. I feel like I have to ask this question: Why is EVERY show targeted towards teenagers dark and moody as fuck? We want, nay NEED colors here. Speaking of color, outfits. This looks so fucking dull. The setting for this show is dull as well. Okay moving on. I COULD NOT deal with white-washing here. The reason we felt attached to these characters was because of their diversity and their connection to each other. Hollywood has a history of racism and only casting white actors and actresses who are cast with portraying EVERY RACE OTHER THAN THEIR OWN. The fact there is no Asian representation is a crime. Also getting rid of Techna. Does the subject of science not exist?! Replacing one actress with one that is yes plus sized, but is also white. All adults here are apathetic pieces of trash. It's no wonder why the kids are like this.

Ok newly obsessed with your channel!!

Wow, I wasn't expecting such a thorough analysis! It is super sad that they dont think girls will buy action figures. Growing up in the 80s/early 90s I could never find female action figures (i think because the middle aged men were buying them) all they have to do to sell girls more action figures is to add, "hair play" just make the hair brushable instead of molded plastic. Anyway lots of great points. I think there is potential for the show to improve, I believe they will listen to us, (the fans) and if not we can always hope for the next attempt -like I'm still hoping for an Xmen with neon spandex. 💖

It was frustrating to hear that some of my beloved cartoons might have been canceled because they had more female watchers than male;;;; It truly puts things into perspective.... By the way, wonderful analysis ♥ Truth be told I wouldn't mind griddy and dark W.I.T.C.H adaptation, because comics were pretty dark and had some serious topics.

also THANK YOU for mentioning dora!! it was unironically one of my favourite movies of 2019, i love it so much and it's honestly the perfect example of a good updated adaptation

I never watched Young Justice because I wasn't watching much TV at the time, but I remember hearing about the reason for why that show was canceled and it infuriated me. And these companies wonder why many animators and viewers were flocking to streaming services or online platforms to make creative shows and animations. Executive meddling killed alot of good properties.