... WHY?!?!?! The Mark 14 Torpedo by Drachinifel - Reaction 

“What caused you to become a Khornate Berserker?” “The pure rage resulting from F***ing incompetent logistics.”

34:40 The poor Commander of the Tinosa was so angry (and for good reason) he stormed into Lockwoods office intent to barrage him with a volly of curses that could curl the paint from the wall and Lockwood who was on the Submarine crews side was more then willing to let him do it and let him off, but the Commander had got so angry between heading back and storming into the office the was unable to speak, i'm suprised the poor man didn't become the first Deamon Prince of Khorne and sacrifice to the whole of BuOrd to the Blood God (Which would have been something of a service at this point), instead of leading the US Atlantic submarine fleet in the 60's is beyond me.

One of these Torpedo's was fired at the Kaga after she had been gutted at Midway and ended up breaking then floating out the hole it made minute the warhead and ended up making a floatation aid for a Japanese crew man.

old man as Albert Einstein once said- 'Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe. 🤓

"This is a cavalcade of stupidity." Old Man Reacts, halfway through the video. Oh, don't worry, it gets worse. :P

The same "We're gonna classify the manual, so none of our guys know what this does or how it works" thing happened with the US Army and their tank gun stabilizers in WWII. The M4 famously was one of the first tanks with a stabilized gun (Only up to a certain speed, and one axis IIRC, but still revolutionary for its time), however, the gun stabilizer was deemed so "secret" that they never trained any of the crews on it or included it and it's maintenance in the manual. Because no one knew how to use or maintain it, it was disregarded and disliked by the majority of crews due to the fact theirs were likely inoperative since ya know, they never performed any maintenance on them because they didn't know how or that they even needed to. For the crews that were mechanically inclined enough to actually understand the mechanism, they were able to figure out how to use them and keep them operational, and largely praised its usefulness. This was the minority however, so the general consensus in the US Army became that they weren't that useful, and were removed from the M26 Pershings to fit more ammunition in the turret and meet the minimum amount of 90mm rounds required by the design board. It wouldn't be until the M60A1 (AOS) in the late 60's-early 70's, that a gun stabilizer was jerry-rigged onto the M60 (AOS = Add-On-Stabilizer) and became part of US standard tanks again.

His name is pronounced "drack-in-if-fell" and the story of how he chose that name is pretty interesting. Long story short he chose it because he was looking for something very unique to use that could never really be mistaken for anyone else and Drachinifel is the local dialect name for a mountain or peoples or something like that (been a while so I don't remember for certain) from his Bolivian grandparents' time. So there was virtually guaranteed to be no real conflict with anyone or thing on the internet. Epic man and story-teller in his way. I love all his content.

My grandfather was a submarine captain during WW2. He absolutely hated the Mk14.

Drachinifel did a series covering the US submarine actions in the Pacific and it wasn't just the Torpedo's that were getting them, the senior officers were also getitng them too, one Sub got back from a patrol with the beds completely black from mold due to failure in the Submarine and another Sub had the engineers looking at the crews beds and thinking about making sails out them because the engines were failing and the Submarine commander before Lockwood said these Subs were perfectly fine.

Had a similar incidents like you had Old man, when I worked as a Welder. 1st time, was on a production workshop, we are to put piece A and B into C and weld them together. (heavy duty wall braces looking things), they told us to use A4 measurement (how thick the weld is suppose to be), so I did my parts that way. One of the older guys came over and said Im putting on too thick welds. I showed him the measurement tool and said hes wrong, he kept bugging me, so I took a piece i made and took it to the overseer. I asked him, is this good enough or am I doing it wrong? Overseer looked at it for a while, then called everyone in the shop over. He then used my piece and said, Everyone look at this piece, THIS is how its to look, make them like this. 2nd time was on a construction side, we were welding the support beams, and they said we are to lay 3 layers strings and A6 lines. (its wedges, so you put one in the center, one just below it and then one above to make the weld). So I did as im told and weld, the older guys are faster then me, and thats because they only put down 1 weld string, not 3. (they took thicker rods and just made a thick first string, that is still not A6 size). Overseer ask why im taking so much longer then them and I said why, he looked at what I meant, and said 'keep going'. Afterwards the inspectors came and took tests and ultrasound the welds. The older guys had to remake 70% of their welds, because they were not correct. I did not had to remake a single one. Lesson of this? You can do something for 100 years and still be incorrect, Always Learn.

Submarine Captains: Oi, the mk14 is Detonaten’t. USN: Did you read the manual? Submarine Captains: Did you give us one? Or even try to test firing it? USN: No, that is not our question.

The US actually tired to give the faulty eletric exploder to the British and the British took one look at it and said "The sheer inginuity of the is device rather blinds one to tis utter uselessness" i have no knowledge if the US Sub crews began hugging any Royal Navy person they saw and began crying that someone was listening to them.

If you break the keel, the ship is done... . ... unless you're the Samuel B. Roberts, cruising around the Persian Gulf in the late '80s: then it's just damage control practice.

Trying to ensure security and fiscal sustainability are very important things, but like anything, can be overdone. And when people explicitly try to cover up their failings, things have fully left the good faith stage. I could be wrong, or the source could be mistaken, but I've heard that apparently we classified how H-bombs were made and how they worked so extensively they temporarily became lostech we had to reverse engineer.

Drachinifel didn't mention it, but they actually started putting blue dye in the torpedoes so they would know if sailors tried to work on the them. He has an interesting video on how the HMS Hood sunk if you want to watch it.

It's (arguably) good to see how bureaucratic systems can fuck up other parts of the government.

Its so cool to see drach reactions

Would love to see more Drachinifel on this channel.

BoO: Let's build a weapon and never test it! What could possibly go wrong!? Submariners: **Infinite Streams of Curses**

I'm not American, but this whole series of events was an absolute travesty. The fact that US Navy sailors died due to the wilful ignorance of a few blustering fools is something that makes me feel some kind of righteous fury. I don't know if heads rolled because of this, but I would hope that some people involved in this should have at the very least been imprisoned.

Half way through you can truly understand … failure is indeed like onions. Layers of stupid

Firstly, Cat is feeling your irritation, hence the "pet me, you'll feel better" reaction. Secondly, the US armed forces have three enemies whenever they go to War. In order of significance, these are 1) Congress, 2) BUORD, 3) Whoever they're supposed to be fighting. If you want to learn about another of BUORD's FUBAR stories, I'd suggest looking into C&Rsenal's history of The Lewis Gun (aka How BUORD Gave The British The Best Light Machine Gun Of WW1 (REPEATEDLY!)). It's episode 34 of their Primer series.

Ah yes, the video that will make anybody hate BUORD with a considerable vengeance.

Drachinifel has a lot of fantastic content! His Battle off Samar is among my all time favorites, and I think you'd have a good laugh along with the story.

Warned you... and no, as usual there were no charges, and bringing it up would result in comments like "we all were mistaken", "we were just trusting the science" and "you really cannot blame us for our early reactions". At the same time, dozens of promising careers were crash and burned for questioning the popular wisdom, going against their COC, or daring to actually want to understand they weapons.

This is proof that the Mechanicus is the most realistic aspect of Warhammer 40k

When I was watching these Submarine and MK14 videos by Drac, I was absolutely enraged despite his jokes. Not at Drac, but at the incompetence of the FUCKING Bureau of Ordnance

We could have lost the pacific war because of this torpedo

"Failure is like onions", it has many layers

To quote Dracs video on the second Pacific squadron "...and then it got worse.".

Considering that 1 of the attempted attacks on Bismarck with magnetic detonators which mistakenly targeted HMS Sheffield had the magnetic detonators go off too soon and when HMS Victorious was on loan to the USN, her torpedo officer mentioned that the RN had similar problems and the RN had fixed them with a less leak-prone exploder, replacing the power source with a battery-powered one or switching for a contact detonator

The beware of the leopard line is from the hitchhiker's guide to the galaxy one if my absolute favourite books

It was a modification of this torpedo that all carrier torpedo bombers of the fleet air arm used post pearl Harbour. So when the Us carrier fleet was sent to attack a nearby Japanese navel port where the IJN Hiei was located the Enterprises torpedo bombers went in for the kill. Hiei was caught off guard without torpedo netting and a stationary target. The dive bombers came in low and dropped their payload. Three torps missed but one was on target. Thinking the battleship was history the torpedo bombers broke off for another target only to have the torpedo strike the ship and do nothing. Some say the torpedo was too close to arm but later analysis of footage suggested it was outside the minimum arming range. So it hit the hull and didn't explode. Can't say the same for Japanese torpedo bombers.

You might also enjoy Drachinifel's video on the British K-class fleet submarines :)

Really hurts when you realize because of Japan's terrible anti-submarine doctrine, the U.S. could have sunk the Japanese carrier fleet in the first year of the war

Can we give a nickname to the mk 14 torpedo, like the "Kamchatka "? Would it be too ironic?

A suggestion. You've seen what happens when the USN gets it wrong. Try Drach's 3-part series on the salvage of Pearl Harbor to see what happens when it succeeds. I'll say this, it's not all sweetness and light, in fact some of it is downright gruesome, but as a tale of what can happen when the Navy decides to get the job done to the best of it's ability, there is nothing better.

WOW... im so early...cant wait to see Old mans reaction

This entire saga can be summed up by the phrase "but wait, it gets Worse!"

I know things are complicated in the chain of command but it seems to me that your PO1 problem should have been something you could comfortably take to the XO privately and ask that the cause and effect of the failings he was blaming you for to be looked into. Incompetence in any system and level on a submarine is serious (especially the heads) and it would be a dereliction of duty to his sub for an XO to not take such a report seriously and investigate on the sly at least. Those are the kinds of things that created the situation that nearly sunk the USS Connecticut when it hit that sea mount. Incompetence can exist everywhere in in every occupation and it is only the constant attention, training, and reporting of issues that keeps bad things from happening.

Making a second, unrelated post to my first... I... attempted to go for Coast Guard at the behest of my dad, and I'm SO grateful I didn’t get in... I wasn't even IN the military yet, and I already had had an issue with this during the written testing. One of the written questions, on the test written written by the U.S. Military, did not have a correct potential answer displayed on the answer sheet. I looked at this... for a solid five minutes... got up, walked over to the tester and informed him that the test was not accurate. That this particular question did not have a properly listed answer. I got told to simply, "Choose the correct answer, or barring that, pick the answer that seemed less wrong than the others." ...I am so happy I didn’t make it in, because I wouldn't have lasted...

have you seen the Battleship New Jersey video of if any ship could survive what it took to sink the Musashi and the Yamato? I'm honestly curious about your opinion as a former Navy crewmen.

Bureau of Ordinance: this torpedo is very expensive, so we don’t want to waste them Submarine commanders: these torpedoes suck, they fail 75% of the time and the other 25% veer off target and miss Bureau of (idiots)Ordinance: NO, there is nothing wrong with these torpedoes, you are clearly inexperienced in submarine warfare and don’t know what you’re talking about!!

...lol... You know what ELSE is the Number 14 that the boss hates? The Deathguard's Legion number 😂

If your doing Drachinifel you need to watch The USN Mothball Fleet - Storing up for a rainy day video that one in particular will REALLY get you going.

I can see the Commissar😊 coming out

Poor Navy...good thing the AAF has the Norden Bombsight!

you want erretating, watch Drac's reviews of the sub service month by month during the war

Wow, i actually caught a vid early...

I get the rant, Old Man. I work in a place where the Management can't really keep the machines and shit running, they are just unable and don't really have the skills, and get really flustered when they have to pitch in. But, you know... Management is always right, eh?

Drachenfel has a great video on Russia's Doomed Fleet. I suggest you check it out.

The kitty could sence you are upset

Yes, I know you are presenting a video......but good kitty 😺 🐱

Cat The vid is cool too

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