Why the Misunderstood Umbaran Resistance DID NOTHING WRONG 

Umbarans were simply fighting to protect their Homeland. They didn't ally with the separatists at first, but joined them eventually out of desperation.

Even as a kid it felt wrong, the enemies weren’t droids like always but people and that one scene were the Umbaran couldn’t breath and that clone just executed him in coldblood felt like something the empire would do and not the republic

Maturing is realizing that many planets that left the Republic were actually in the right. Especially Umbara. However, I know for a fact this was all plan out by Palpatine.

I just remembered that the Umbarans, like the Kaminoans, could see in UV. This means they could see things on clone armor that clones themselves, and the viewers, could not. For all we know the clones’ attempts at stealth were like watching a group in day-glo hi-vis outfits trying to blend in to the undergrowth.

umbara arc is a good case of “hans, are we the baddies?”

'Senate Murders' always seemed like a one-shot episode but the events of that episode had so many more ramifications for the rest if the war. A few of the clones even start questioning the war at the end of the arc. That's what I love about this show, everything is connected in some way.

Geetsley:The battle was just for supply lines Ki adi mundi:but what of the droid attack on the wookies!!!!

I like Umbaran tech and armor. I wish we’d get some action figures

In general, genuine separatists with little to no sith influence are the good guys.

This was one of the bloodiest battles throughout the entire war. The Clone army faced off against a species with technology that no one has ever seen before. Heavy casualties were inflicted on both sides, But I'd say the Republic got hit the hardest seeing as this technology killed so many clones and they didn't know how to effectively fight back.

It’s funny cause I always liked this arc even as a kid because they were finally fighting humanoids

In my headcanon That battle on Umbara wasn’t a battle of the clone wars but the beginning of the 24 year long Umbaran war of independence which would end with the empire pulling out a few months after Endor

In legends of Chiss they made their own TIE Fighter(Nssis-class Clawcraft) with imperial reverse engineering. imagine a TIE Fighter made by the Umbarans.

Neutral states have complete rights to defend their territory in war and not pick a side, or to choose sides despite threats of war I have some sympathy for the shadowy guys

Whenever I was watching this arc in the past few years, I never got the feeling that the show was painting the Umbarans as the stereotypical bad guys. They never focused on a comically evil commander on their side, and in fact, it was like they were painting the Republic in that exact manner. The clones were 100% the bad guys in this arc.

Remember that one moment when the clones go up to inspect the downed enemy vehicle? Fives sees one of its pilots mortally wounded and flatly says, “No juice left in him either,” then casually shoots the guy in the head without a second thought. That scene shook me to the core.

The CIS outside of their highest leadership is pretty much justified in their reasoning for secession.

Now that I think about it, yeah the Umbarans never really did tactics outside of the norm of warfare. Sure they were a bit underhanded, but they were honestly pretty honorable with the battle all things considered. At least way more honorable than the CIS were with their weapons. They did try to give the clones as quick a deaths as they could, which is something that you would not expect from a society where moving up in the cast system can be done through murder if the individual is not caught.

basically the Umbarans was exactly like the Rebells fighting for the freedom of there home planet, you could say they was the first Rebells

They really protecting their planet we literally see where the Clones were the *Worst Guys* in one scene they literally executed an umbaran survivor at battle ground barely climbing out the crashed vehicle

Umbaran Commander, getting high off his own supply: “I WANT A THOUSAND JEDI SCALPS” Umbaran Lieutenant: “Sir, the Republic only sent 4 Jedi generals.” “DID I STUTTER?”

There probably hundreds of thousands of planets that didn’t join the Republic or Confederacy war effort, but they still got occupied or invaded for their strategic positions or resources. And Umbarains were probably the first to be shown as a victims of the war, considering that their Senator was outright murder by the faults of Padme search for peace talks, but considering that the Republic became the Empire the Umbarains they will be punished heavily for siding with the Confederacy out of desperation.

"Your right,we were invaders and it wasn't our place to try and take a once loyal world but I didn't fight I'd get a death squad on my back" CT-6963 Lieutenant Xander 501st recollecting his experiences on Umbara and awareness of Covert Ops clone troopers

I kind of wonder how this arc would change if we saw this from the perspective of assaults on populated areas. Cuz when we see the Umbaran arc in Clone Wars, it's from the 501st perspective and they are either out in the wild, along a road, or at a military base. There are never innocent civilians anywhere near involved. I think it would be interesting to see how the other clone battalions and maybe jedi were reacting to this planetary siege.

Wow the Only thing that would've made that Vietnam parallel more Evident is if the Republic lost... (And if the Umbrians Tortured surviving clones)

Though the clones had more Casalties they would have had a lot less if pong krell wasn't a traitor

literally Space Vietnam, stuck in a fight between 2 ideologies, enforced by 2 greater forces than them, just trying to protect their home and freedom.

One slight correction. Ditchi was not murdered because of his political views, he was murdered because he knew too much and could’ve given away Lola’s involvement in Farr’s murder. That’s why she killed him

Umbarran arc = Space Vietnam And I mean that in every way possible

*Cries harder every passing second of the story arc*

Everyone: *Deep talks about how it felt wrong and really wrong* Me back as a kid: They brutally hurt my clone bros. Pure evil to me. (Fr though I agree, this whole battle for umbara felt so wrong.)

Sometimes in war it is necessary to make a morally questionable choice. The republic had to win back Umbara or they quite possibly would have lost the mid-rim. Tactically it was the only choice they really had.

Well of course of Umbra Witches were . . . Oh wait. The aliens right right.

A somewhat good politician like Midichi (apologies if I am misspelling his name) was murdered because of his political views. Now why does that sound so familiar (rhetorical question).

I mean, for the Republic it was a lose-lose situation either way: do they invade Umbara (thus become the aggressors here) and again secure their vital supply line to the Mid Rim or do they leave them be but almost guarantee the loss of the Mid Rim to the CIS?

If you haven’t already, would love to see a video about the difference between arc and regular troopers

Amazing video as always! It was always creepy to see the clones invade a system whose people decided to leave. It left me with a bitter feeling all over. It wasn't even a happy ending for one side, many clones died horrible deaths because of Pong Krell, the umbarans had their home occupied, clones were turned into invaders and the jedi got closer to the dark side of the force, pushing their order closer to the end. However, something I didn't know at all was Kashyk's importance on the mid rim. Perhaps knew vaguely about it's strategical importance, but not how the other worlds saw Kashyk. Maybe Geetsly can do a video explaining it. I would love it, as well as many other. Hope they can do it 💟

A hero to one side is a monster to the other. The unorthodox tactics and bravery of the Umbarans would naturally appear to be unnerving and hellish to the other side.

The umbarans could have won the clone wars with all of their own technology

I love that you guys did this breakdown! I agree that the Umbarans were just protecting their home against an untrustworthy government. I always root for the 501st, and it pains me to see how these brave and selfless Clones were used as pawns for Sidious's grand plan. They fought and died just so that Palpy Mc Scrotumface could have those more difficult world's already under his thumb when the war was over. This is why I feel that Palps was super evil. He orchestrated this entire war, sent millions to their deaths all for his gain.

i will always feel bad for the clones after this battle because all odds were against them. Their general was against them from the start, they were fighting the enemy on their home land so they new their planet better, and their technology was far more advanced then the republic's. Also, we lost some of the best clones there are, Hardcase and Waxer. :'(

This is quite an interesting topic, thanks for making a video about it

To quote Bender "They must learn of our peaceful ways, By Force"

This is why even though I support the Republic because I love Clones, the CIS as a movement without the corporations which were evil or the sith; we're good. If you look towards the end of Bad Batch and anytime afterwards, CIS Senators we're imprisoned for just standing for their planet. Which shows who we're the good guys now. This includes any clones who actually cared for the innocent. What the Bad Batch did when they saw the "Insurgents", is correct. They weren't going to kill innocent people protecting their home. Lastly, Captain Howser's move to care about Ryloth shows even in the Republic; there was still some good.

How dare the Umbarans see the Republic’s corruption! The nerve of those people!

It's very clear that the Umbara arc was meant to be the clone wars version of Vietnam

"The confederacy didn't let it's members of parliament get murdered," Yeah, tell that too Mins Bonteri, force rest her soul.

In a way i feel like this is relatable as an Alaskan. Location wise umbara is like our location to the U.S

I sometimes wonder what would have happened if the Jedi had gone to the separatists and made an offer, like, "get rid of dooku, ban slavery and be slightly less corrupt than the republic and we'll switch sides".

4:42 Mina bontari: a my a joke to you

Seeing the organic military forces of the CIS is always a favorite for me. This is why I miss Jabiim. I wish they touched more on the organic forces more often.

Umbarans are always guilty of killing Hardcase. Never forget that

Best Star Wars Channel out none of your topics are rehashed topics keep it up !

General Krell was being a "hard-ass" on Umbara just like General Patton was in WW2.

Yeah the clones were the bad guys here.

potential history always said it was like the Vietnam war, but I never knew it was almost a mirror, like them worrying about other worlds having a domino effect to join another group, its insane how subtle it is written.

Another way to describe this is how Padme Amidala's dedication for peace and justice resulted in sufferings and deaths of thousands at least and millions at worst. For both the clones and the Umbarans, of course.

My favorite arc of any TV series ever. Absolutely fantastic to the point that if I rewatch the show I just watch this arc alone.

There are so many fantastic things you can say about the Umbara Arc, but one describes it all - masterpiece

Great video! I like your take on this story arch.

Too bad their society was kind of evil however imagine just how cool and interesting Star Wars technology would have been if more organizations used umbaran technology later in the wars to come especially the technology they use to create their cockpits and heads-up displays and shielding

The Umbara arc reminds me to the Vietnam War where superior US forces was underestimated by the North Vietnamese forces and the harsh jungle battle zones.

It ain't a kids show without the Vietnam War allegory.

No juice left in him either

You say that, but we lost too many Clones during that escapade

The clones were doing the pre-work of the empire.

As someone who was never blind by a love for the clones, duh. I was rooting for the Umbarans from the beginning

Great video!!

You want my opinion well I'll give you my opinion. FOR THE REPUBLIC

Almost reminded me of that Scottish guy who made the "General Shepherd Did Nothing Wrong" video of Call of Duty Modern Warfare 2. lol. Epic. 👌 👍

It’s not so much that the clones were the bad guys in this case. It’s more the people that were handing out orders. The clones were just doing what they were told. Which is a philosophical argument in its own right, but I digress.

Senator Me Dici sounds like Medici Which is a nice historical reference if you know anything about Renaissance Italy

The best thing i realized about this show is that it not only displayed how the republic overall was further losing its way, but also showed the progressing blindness if the jedi.

6:23 the um arena were unjustified in their succession, the senator was murdered by a crazy aide, who was then arrested.

I honestly never understood the battle of Umbara, it literally just seemed like a race of people protecting their homeworld, it was a great series of episodes but it did confuse me and was never given much backstory in the show. I think most of the focus was put on Pong Krell and his conflict with the 501st and the Umbarans were basically just made to look like the enemies when realistically they weren’t, especially with those scary ass machines.

All of the Separatista were in the right, fight me, roger roger

the clones also were good guys, they fought for strategic advances for their home and what they thought good, and I am not entirely sure whether without krell the republic even would have invaded, in other words krell is the villain

Growing up you realized that the watching The Clone Wars was a tragic show

Calling our heroes the Clones villains, especially after what those Umbaran's did to our boys and the fact that their leaving endangered the great Wookies who I also love, you're committing an act of mutiny here, Geetsly. lol.

I loved this Arc... Didn't matter the side.

Interesting take Umbara

"The Confederacy didn't let its representatives in parliament get murdered" Mina Bonteri, getting assasinated after she stood up for peace talks between the warring factions: "Am I a joke to you?"

To be fair, the Umbarans knew what they were getting into when they seceded from the Republic and joined their enemies the Separatist. The Republic had every right to fight the enemies so close to home and in such a vital location. It’s just war

Umbarens joined the separatist and note that there were no droids on the planet surface. Only separatists in orbit/ atmosphere.

I wonder how the Umbarans would’ve fared against the empire

Clone: "Hans, are we the good guys?" Clone 2: "Ja, of course we are." Clone: "But, but you- killed that umbaran by breaking his mask." Clone 2: "So? They're bad guys!" Clone: "I don't think this is right, im deserting." *shoots other clone in the head and hops into a Arc-170*

this is a really good point. i take this in a different point of view now

Let the lessons of corrupt government hit home when we deal with the Palpatine like tactics of our own government. It's never black and white when there is corruption and greed in power.

Noo, i totally agree! The Umbarans were just protecting there home when it comes down to it and the Republic did it out of necessity so i see why it was logical to them even if it wasnt really justified or right

If Umbara was the Umbarans' home world, why do they fight while wearing what look like space suits?

6:50 The clone army being BASED as always

A pawn (clones and jedi in this case) can not be a bad guy! Nah, that was all on Sidious (ok: Except sadistic commanders and sadistic clones, there were some of these, who used harsh, shock tactics that would make Tarkin proud!)

Perhaps the CIS could've sent them a few squads of commando droids.

Something I think would make an interesting video; how the GAR’s AT-TE walker stands up to the Empire’s AT-AT.

It was a very grim battle in a dark world …. So it was basically grim…dark

Big Vietnam War vibes.

I think one of the biggest tactical advantages the Separatists had was their integration of different tactics into one large military force. The Republic missed a huge opportunity by not going around to different systems within the republic and developing a doctrine that utilized a wider range of equipment. I also realize that most of the battles in the clone wars involved tactics more akin to World War 1. Imagine what advantage the GAR could have gotten if they had integrated some of the vehicles of the Umbarans into their own army. It also could have had simultaneous soft-power advantages as now the Umbarans are trading with the Republic and would thus be closer with them. I also realize that something like this could never have happened as Mr. Palpy wouldn’t have approved it.

your videos make me go oh hey someone else thinking past magic light saber colors and pew pew droids whack

I always wondered about that story arc. Why didn't the republic try to negotiate,but yeah hmm.

So basically real life warfare