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Why the Nakba is key to understanding Palestinian history  

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Комментарии : 9 тыс.   
@remjiedoronila7454
@remjiedoronila7454 8 месяцев назад
When the oppressed becomes the oppressor
@Floridamancan
@Floridamancan 8 месяцев назад
Blacks are fantastic at it
@paradise5534
@paradise5534 8 месяцев назад
It was never their land
@ShadNex
@ShadNex 8 месяцев назад
@@calebmahle147when the opressed becomes the oppressor
@lunalingo4461
@lunalingo4461 8 месяцев назад
​@@acmulhernfirstly it's not like the Roman empire, u can't compare that to Palestine because Palestine is holy land for the Jews and they had ruled it for centuries and got expelled out of it several times, that's like what would happen if the Muslims got expelled out of the Hejaz, Mecca or Medinah. Or the Christians getting expelled out of Rome or Constantinople- which did happen for the most part. Secondly if the Jews are closer to central Europe in their genetics- which is right to a certain extent(for Ashkenazi Jews that is, even tho most of them lived in eastern Europe) why do you think they got persecuted for centuries. Don't think ppl of the same race would commit genocide on each other. And 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️ you did not just say that Judaism began during the fall of the middle ages no pal they have been practising their religion 1800 years before Christianity or Islam.
@louishendrison3076
@louishendrison3076 8 месяцев назад
@@calebmahle147the world didn’t start when judaism start either.
@demass
@demass 8 месяцев назад
Conveniently skipped the part where all Arab nations attacked the Jews right when UN made it a state lol.
@crazybirdyplayz4596
@crazybirdyplayz4596 8 месяцев назад
Lets not forget that it was called "Palestine" in 1917 for almost 100 years in a country called the Ottoman Empire. Then the British came and colonized it and decided to split it between Palestine and Israel without the arab's consent, that's why the arab's declared war.
@demass
@demass 8 месяцев назад
@@crazybirdyplayz4596 let’s not forget Jews lived there before Arabs even existed. They didn’t either consent to the Roman’s kicking them out
@sleepingsibyl
@sleepingsibyl 8 месяцев назад
Well, kinda makes sense if they weren't supposed to be there in the first place.
@Joaodiogocarvalho
@Joaodiogocarvalho 8 месяцев назад
Jordan was also Palestine territory and they were never against it!
@rocketmonty9916
@rocketmonty9916 8 месяцев назад
​@@crazybirdyplayz4596so what you mean is: it was a colony that became a colony of a different empire?
@darlazL1fe
@darlazL1fe 2 месяца назад
This is honesty disgusting. You are feeding people lies
@-_-Kokushib0-_0
@-_-Kokushib0-_0 2 месяца назад
This is extremely shady journalism. Very important details are being left out.
@ProleDaddy
@ProleDaddy Месяц назад
Perhaps you fill in the blanks that you know?
@-_-Kokushib0-_0
@-_-Kokushib0-_0 Месяц назад
@@ProleDaddy Go do research about the history of Palestine for yourself. Anyone, pro Palestine/ pro Israel should easily be able to see Vox is clearly pushing an agenda (like they always do) and not giving actual accounts of history.
@hannibalb8276
@hannibalb8276 Месяц назад
No it's not, it's extremely accurate. There is a reason why you aren't telling us what is being "left out", and the reality is that this story is very rarely ever told.
@hannibalb8276
@hannibalb8276 Месяц назад
@@ProleDaddy He can't, because nothing was left out or misrepresented, he just hates the idea of normal people hearing about the Nakba
@whateverwhatever4026
@whateverwhatever4026 Месяц назад
Welcome to Vox. We're lucky when it's only purposefully leaving out stuff. And not just outright lying.
@lukeschroder3036
@lukeschroder3036 8 месяцев назад
I am not Jewish. Nor do I support the current Israeli policy. But this is simply not accurate history. It has omitted some key events in order to paint a certain narrative.
@FreePal334
@FreePal334 8 месяцев назад
Like what?
@KyubiBubi
@KyubiBubi 8 месяцев назад
​@@FreePal334Like Arabs declaring war on Israel the day it was founded, Arabs declining the fair split, Israel winning every war started by the Arab countries surrounding it and thus winning land, etc.
@joshuathomas5626
@joshuathomas5626 8 месяцев назад
It’s Vox. What did you expect?
@iMaDeMoN2012
@iMaDeMoN2012 8 месяцев назад
@@KyubiBubi Israel is a settler-colonial state imposed upon the indigenous people by a foreign power, Britain. Why should the indigenous population accept it? Also if you love Israel so much, you should give them your homeland. Absolutely ridiculous.
@lukeschroder3036
@lukeschroder3036 8 месяцев назад
@@iMaDeMoN2012 there have been jews in the territory of Israel for 3500 years. This is of course, prior to the Arabs even existing as a race. Ironically, the Arabs conquered and thereafter colonized the land in the 7th century. Also, the colonial Roman Empire, after it conquered the land from the Jews, named the territory: Palestine. Also, the majority of Palestinians entered the territory after 1860 - only after a strong Jewish presence was already re-established. Again, I reiterate, I am not Jewish and don't support thr current Israeli regime. But what I have stated here is fact.
@wasallai
@wasallai 7 месяцев назад
Y'all decided not to tell 99% of the story
@baselqashou5716
@baselqashou5716 7 месяцев назад
What’s the 99% then
@x1zn998
@x1zn998 7 месяцев назад
sure, you tell the rest of it then lol
@timbuktu777
@timbuktu777 7 месяцев назад
They have longer videos on the subject. This is a RU-vid Short.
@khadafiaryawiandra9970
@khadafiaryawiandra9970 7 месяцев назад
Tell the rest then, you can't
@fthv4325
@fthv4325 7 месяцев назад
​@@khadafiaryawiandra9970you can read about it but you'd rather not so as to stay willfully ignorant and delusional.
@Litzen2k
@Litzen2k 2 месяца назад
"Historic Palestine" more like Historic Judea.
@brandoninhofer6592
@brandoninhofer6592 День назад
The word Palestine came from the Greeks. They started to call the region 'Palestine ' starting around the year 450 AD. The area of land was called Palestine until 1917...
@Ammiad
@Ammiad Месяц назад
Fun fact: this is called "lying by omission", its essentially telling only part if the story to push the narrative that you want, for example: Say you stole something, and have had it for a week by now, if someone asks you if you stole it and you say that its yours and you can prove it because you were seen with it last week, thays called lying by omission, ik the example is prrtty bad but it kinda gets the point across, i hope
@makeroftoys
@makeroftoys Месяц назад
100% correct. This is deceptive. The plan actually limits these aggressive tactics to critical areas required for defense. (AS YOU WOULD EXPECT IN A WAR) It was NOT widespread.
@gmtom19
@gmtom19 29 дней назад
So what are they omitting? You cant just say "you are wrong" without any details.
@Ammiad
@Ammiad 29 дней назад
@@gmtom19 most of the wars in which the Palestinians lost land were started by the Palestinians themselves, in addition to a lot of other ommitted information
@christianmiller9934
@christianmiller9934 27 дней назад
You’re right it’s an Israeli speciality which is why you love it 😂😂😂
@naylisyazwina6836
@naylisyazwina6836 21 день назад
@@Ammiadthey aren’t
@dam_smit
@dam_smit 7 месяцев назад
You did just skip the part where Israel did accept the UN plan, thereby becoming a real country, while Palestine did not, under pressure from other Arab states, and chose to attack Israel. Had they also accepted the plan, today perhaps the conflict would be much less one sided as both would have the sovereignty rights of a country.
@craftsmanceramics8653
@craftsmanceramics8653 7 месяцев назад
Shhhhhush we don't want to mention that, it's almost like *checks notes* Vox had an agenda
@sara_sara5928
@sara_sara5928 7 месяцев назад
Sure, i had 100% of my land that i had the right to. Then some dudes appear and want 50% of it, i refuse, then im the terrorist and the bad guy. Everybody can do and say and think whatever they want, israel never had peace in mind and it never was their intention. Therefore theyll never get it.
@easterworshipper730
@easterworshipper730 7 месяцев назад
And they Also skipped that Gaza was anexed by egypt and West bank was anexed by Jordan in 1950 losing the opportunity to create palestine.
@hanayuuki790
@hanayuuki790 7 месяцев назад
Fight back for their homeland that was forcefully made into another country without even getting asked what they think just because the the so called powerful countries said so? Youre right. Man, they absolutely had no right to do that. Its almost as if they were forced to accept their fate to stay quiet and be used around like United States, Canada, South Africa etc back then when they were colonised. The people back then must've loved it when the colonizers take everything and ignore what they have to say. No bloods were shed at all to resist them at all. 🎉🎉🎉
@newlearner7824
@newlearner7824 7 месяцев назад
You just slapped them in the face with facts.
@nic9260
@nic9260 8 месяцев назад
Yeah let’s just skip the 1948 war completely where Egypt Syria Jordania and Palestinians arabs all declared war on Israel, and lost
@foreveravatar5874
@foreveravatar5874 8 месяцев назад
Wouldn't you fight against a colonial entity which is so evidently being used as a US stronghold in the Middle East. Like America doesn't finance anything with billions of dollars unless they know that Israel of being Americas foot in the region so that they can control it. America didn't become the strongest nation on earth by accident.
@roeiyehuda
@roeiyehuda 8 месяцев назад
Vox does not care about the truth they support the terror of Hamas therefore encouraging viewers to take the Hamas side in the war
@asiyaasaeed8437
@asiyaasaeed8437 8 месяцев назад
And why did they do?? We all know
@lorenzoblum868
@lorenzoblum868 8 месяцев назад
​@@asiyaasaeed8437 probably because it was more convenient to fight the newcomers than those who drew the borders and betrayed the Palestinians, the British?
@waleedmb326
@waleedmb326 8 месяцев назад
Declaring war on an invader is a wrong thing ?? You guys are absolutely blind…
@Shaul701
@Shaul701 22 дня назад
Pro Israel 👇
@mingzeng5007
@mingzeng5007 Месяц назад
Let’s not forget how many times the Arab states tried to attack the Jewish state and failed every single time which this video did not cover
@ultim8-tv
@ultim8-tv Месяц назад
its just false. arabs never start the war
@johnstuartsmith
@johnstuartsmith Месяц назад
Israelis know they can't afford to lose a war, while Arabs have believed that a string of losses is just motivation to lose the next one.
@ZohaibAliyt
@ZohaibAliyt Месяц назад
They attacked to get their land back but with the help of Europe and America israhell won all the wars !
@_TLA_Fortune
@_TLA_Fortune Месяц назад
But no fks given why they attacked?
@akmbbrr44
@akmbbrr44 Месяц назад
thus their victory over arabs allowed them to cleanse palestinians over their land? you know who else has the same mindset?
@kingace6186
@kingace6186 8 месяцев назад
Cycles of violence & hatred are supposed to be broken not continued.
@ramr7051
@ramr7051 8 месяцев назад
Wow you're so deep and thoughtful!
@brayanlopez2015
@brayanlopez2015 8 месяцев назад
Naruto warned us about this
@angeldream1
@angeldream1 8 месяцев назад
@@brayanlopez2015god did
@laserbazooka3759
@laserbazooka3759 8 месяцев назад
Tell em to watch naruto
@theamazinghippopotomonstro9942
@theamazinghippopotomonstro9942 8 месяцев назад
@@ramr7051 It's a thought that Israel missed
@benzo___
@benzo___ 8 месяцев назад
once again, let's all thank the British Empire and European colonialism for creating war and conflict
@didd2810
@didd2810 8 месяцев назад
We can also thank the Arab invasions for converting the state into Arab and a Muslim one in the first place. Or the Romans for expelling the Jews from their lands.
@HemantKumar-id3jg
@HemantKumar-id3jg 8 месяцев назад
I just know there will still be replies by colonial apologists telling how there are "good" and bad sides of colonialism. When in reality, anything good from colonialism was for colonisers.
@ted1990
@ted1990 8 месяцев назад
Europe and USA bears responsibility for the current conflict. The jews moving to Palestine were largely of european origin.
@bethriley9757
@bethriley9757 8 месяцев назад
Hahaha! Childish response, but I bet you are young and never was told the truth about Arabs. Seek knowledge of history outside your culture and you will grow.
@Warmaka
@Warmaka 8 месяцев назад
​@@HemantKumar-id3jgoh I'll start! The world at large was made objectively better through the actions of the British empire. Sorry, Rome. You're still my favorite though.
@Team.L
@Team.L 6 дней назад
Dont skip 3000 years of history! Who was there
@AdamAlkon
@AdamAlkon 2 дня назад
There were people who worshipped statues.
@brandoninhofer6592
@brandoninhofer6592 День назад
Is ra elis: We are atheists and reject the idea of any God. Is ra elis also: This is our land, we have a spiritual connection to it, and some 'God' promised it to us. Yet, we believe in no gods.
@AdamAlkon
@AdamAlkon 21 час назад
@@brandoninhofer6592 ok 🤣🤣
@ter6501
@ter6501 13 дней назад
Plan Dalet has been the subject of much historical debate and controversy, particularly regarding its intentions and directives toward Arab villages. The text of Plan Dalet included provisions for securing areas within the proposed Jewish state and dealing with Arab villages based on their level of hostility and strategic importance. It specified various actions that could be taken, including the possible destruction of villages that were deemed hostile or were located in strategically critical areas. The plan stated that in the case of resistance, the armed forces were to be destroyed and the population expelled outside the borders of the state. If no resistance was met, the area was to be controlled according to military considerations. In cases where hostile villages resisted or were located near Jewish settlements or vital lines of communication, the plan allowed for more severe measures, which included the destruction of the village through various means such as setting fire, blowing up buildings, and planting mines in the debris to prevent return. These aspects of Plan Dalet have led to significant interpretation variations. Some historians argue that the plan was primarily defensive, aimed at securing and holding territory expected to be part of the new state and to ensure the safety of its inhabitants. Others view it as having laid the groundwork for expelling Palestinian Arab populations from strategic areas, thus facilitating demographic changes in favor of a Jewish majority in key areas. The implementation of the plan during the 1948 Arab-Israeli War led to numerous villages being depopulated and destroyed, which has been pointed to as evidence of both interpretations.
@Bluestripsenclavelove
@Bluestripsenclavelove 8 месяцев назад
You forgot the part where they were rejecting the proposal and starting a war against Israel 😂
@Mosabbir82
@Mosabbir82 8 месяцев назад
Imagine someone kicked out of your house and said it's their house.
@Bluestripsenclavelove
@Bluestripsenclavelove 8 месяцев назад
@@Mosabbir82 actually it mostly false the Jews were staying at refugee Camps centers up until the late 1950s
@baronbrummbar8691
@baronbrummbar8691 8 месяцев назад
@@Mosabbir82 that never happend before the war started not a single house was taken that all happend AFTER the arabs attacked
@crazybirdyplayz4596
@crazybirdyplayz4596 8 месяцев назад
@@baronbrummbar8691 The arabs attacked because the UN split Israel and Palestine and didn't want half their house gone
@baronbrummbar8691
@baronbrummbar8691 8 месяцев назад
@@crazybirdyplayz4596 but it wasn.t ther house ....... the jews only got land where ther where already livinf since forever + Swamps and deserts the jews only took arabs houses AFTER the war started
@wow1371
@wow1371 7 месяцев назад
Skipped the Palestinians declining the two states and the war they started. Classic Vox
@abdullahpatel6086
@abdullahpatel6086 7 месяцев назад
What gave the United Nations the right to apportion 55% of Palestine to a group of people (the Jews) who owned 6% of it and 45% of Palestine to a group of people (the Arabs) who owned 94% of it?
@CG20132
@CG20132 7 месяцев назад
How can u propose a split to ppl who had the whole land at the time!
@emad3241
@emad3241 7 месяцев назад
Palestinians agreed to fight the ottomans because Britain promised them independence if they did so, but after the war they declared Palestine a (jewish capital), the two states offer was a spit in the face
@wow1371
@wow1371 7 месяцев назад
@@abdullahpatel6086 the fact that they were told so by the government of the said land gives them all the rights. Arabs owned nothing of the land, neither did the jews. The brits owned the entire land.
@wow1371
@wow1371 7 месяцев назад
@@CG20132 propose? There was no proposal. The owner of the land decided that UN should do something about it. UN decided to split the land. There are no proposals here, just an event taking place. If you decide to oppose it, you better be able to take the consequences. Palestinians couldn't
@thomasjohansson5045
@thomasjohansson5045 29 дней назад
It is important to note that Plan Da-l-et were implemented before the 1948 war. The Nakba had started, with the help of the Haganah and Plan Da-l-et, before the war. The upheaval this violent expulsion plan caused in the Levant region is without a doubt a main reason for the 1948 war.
@closetglobe.IRGUN.NW0
@closetglobe.IRGUN.NW0 29 дней назад
Isn't colonization the main reason for the war?
@thomasjohansson5045
@thomasjohansson5045 29 дней назад
@@closetglobe.IRGUN.NW0 Should have written "major reason". But yes; Plan Da-l-et was a colonization plan. Grab as much land from the indigenous people as possible before the declaration of independence and do it with any means necessary.
@RichardChappell1
@RichardChappell1 11 дней назад
Not at all. The Hagenah virtually ceased to exist by the end of WWII. They were recreated for a short while for the war. The 1948 war was caused by Israel accepting the UN resolution and declaring itself an independent country in spite of Arab opposition.
@RichardChappell1
@RichardChappell1 11 дней назад
@@thomasjohansson5045 Plan Da-l-et was one of several plans talked and only implemented as a result of blockades of Israel. Calling it colonization of the indigenous people is about as dishonest as you could possibly be. First, it was not about colonization, but about the protection of it's nation, and two, the Palestinian Arabs are no more indigenous that Americans who emigrated from Europe.
@closetglobe.IRGUN.NW0
@closetglobe.IRGUN.NW0 10 дней назад
@RichardChappell1 can't blame the arabs for resisting colonization
@ChilledfishStick
@ChilledfishStick Месяц назад
There was never a country called Palestine. It's the English and the French, who carved up the Middle East. The Arabs, living under the Ottoman rule, were a tribal society, where the sliver of land between the Mediterranean Sea and the Jordan River, held no significance. There was no leader, because they were not a nation. A leader only arose, when the British elevated one. That leader had no qualms about killing those who did not want war.
@Thailinc
@Thailinc 6 месяцев назад
If you give a mouse a cookie, it’s going to ask for a glass of milk.
@joshuac4322
@joshuac4322 6 месяцев назад
can u explain to me everything that going on ?
@UserAme99
@UserAme99 6 месяцев назад
​@@joshuac4322 living inside cave for too long, huh?
@joshuac4322
@joshuac4322 6 месяцев назад
@@UserAme99 just explain
@mrdemon1k121
@mrdemon1k121 6 месяцев назад
​@@joshuac4322so basically after ww2 after the holocaust british moved all the jews to Palestine although the arabs protested they still did and shortly the jews set up their own nation and military and then slowly taking over palestine with whole western states supporting it and threaten for military actions to any country which invades israel.
@Countcomfortable
@Countcomfortable 6 месяцев назад
@@joshuac4322it’s basically saying that when something Good happens or someone receives a gift, they’ll demand bigger and better things
@JGMAZ
@JGMAZ 8 месяцев назад
They never seem to mention that Palestinian territory was lost when they and other Arab states invaded Israel but ended up losing territory.
@benjiesumatra9165
@benjiesumatra9165 8 месяцев назад
Well, tell me who support israel at that time? Israel cant stand alone without any help thats the real deal.
@JGMAZ
@JGMAZ 8 месяцев назад
@@benjiesumatra9165 . In the 1948 war nobody. It was a pretty basic war on both sides. All those states had just been formed and were using whatever British and French military equipment they could get their hands on.
@NikoBellaKhouf2
@NikoBellaKhouf2 7 месяцев назад
​@@JGMAZthere was no war. War is when both sides have militaries.
@JGMAZ
@JGMAZ 7 месяцев назад
@@NikoBellaKhouf2 . All sides had militaries. However, basic they were.
@NikoBellaKhouf2
@NikoBellaKhouf2 7 месяцев назад
@@JGMAZ no, they didn't
@Sub67981
@Sub67981 9 дней назад
Free Palestinian
@dekelliberman629
@dekelliberman629 День назад
You are confused, they were nomads during the British mandate, there was no state here, this is a historical area that belongs to the Jewish people and in practice it is bigger than it is supposed to be today. The British Mandate on behalf of the League of Nations over Palestine (the Land of Israel), known in Hebrew as the "British Mandate" or simply "the Mandate", was a mandate (power of attorney, deposit) that the United Kingdom received from the states of the agreement at the San Remo Conference in 1920, and was given additional validity by the League of Nations in 1922. The mandate was intended, among other things, to help the Jewish settlement[1] and to ensure the establishment of a national home for the Jewish people in the Land of Israel, in the spirit of the Balfour Declaration and according to what is said in the mandate text.[1] The British ruled Israel from the summer of 1917 until May 1948. "Mandate rule" is an abbreviated name for the period of British rule in the Land of Israel, which began with the validity of the mandate it received from the League of Nations. The "mandate government" is the British government that operated in Israel by virtue of the mandate it received from the League of Nations, from 1923. The "mandate period" is the period from when the British army entered Israel in the summer of 1917, until the end of the mandate at midnight between May 14 and 15, 1948.😎
@aluminiumfailvods8080
@aluminiumfailvods8080 7 месяцев назад
Left out the part where Israel said yes to the devision deal and the Palestinians said no because they wanted the whole country (this happens like 2 more times).
@hawksnowwhite969
@hawksnowwhite969 6 месяцев назад
Well duh. Would you want south asians (indians,pakistanis,bangladeshi) to have their own country inside the united kingdom simply because they are a minority group that has been oppressed and exploited by the british before?
@lesbonatasha
@lesbonatasha 6 месяцев назад
ah yes they agreed to the deal that gave them the most fertile land leaving the palestinians with little to no way to have a self sustainable country. And that somehow justifies genocide and ethnic cleansing done to palestinian civillians
@wesamsawyer5905
@wesamsawyer5905 6 месяцев назад
Because it’s there country
@khalilbatah7199
@khalilbatah7199 6 месяцев назад
But why did they say no? That’s the part you’re not getting.
@lesbonatasha
@lesbonatasha 6 месяцев назад
@@avichi9175 its been thousands of years, that claim is invalid and unproven, of course jewish people should be allowed to immigrate and live there and not be discriminated just as every immigrant, but claiming it as rightful israeli (the same country that weaponizes judaism for colonization and subjugation) territory is a baseless claim and it would be the same as claiming france and spain as italian territory since the romans inhabited it first
@absoluterage6147
@absoluterage6147 5 месяцев назад
And when Palestinians fight back they cry out in anger but when Israelis murder Palestinian civilians they say “It’s war what do you expect”
@Politography
@Politography 5 месяцев назад
They’re both Ls.
@khassan2008
@khassan2008 5 месяцев назад
@@Politographythat sums up your entire life
@mikailmamedov9980
@mikailmamedov9980 5 месяцев назад
⁠@@khassan2008that sums up your historical, geographical, geopolitical, economical, political and social skills along with historical knowledge of the area.
@absoluterage6147
@absoluterage6147 5 месяцев назад
@@Politography right so the people getting killed and oppressed for 75 years is an L, okay bud
@Markyboyplaysgames
@Markyboyplaysgames 5 месяцев назад
And then they also say it’s “collateral damage”
@Sportspeds
@Sportspeds Месяц назад
“Losing a way you started doesn’t make you the victim”
@_TLA_Fortune
@_TLA_Fortune Месяц назад
a way? what?
@Cupcakesfilledwithwhipcream
@Cupcakesfilledwithwhipcream Месяц назад
he meant war
@_TLA_Fortune
@_TLA_Fortune Месяц назад
@@Cupcakesfilledwithwhipcream i believe israel in this case.
@hishamalaker491
@hishamalaker491 23 дня назад
It makes the people victims no?
@savagestrat6012
@savagestrat6012 22 дня назад
The Jews had been there way before but were forcefully removed. They went back to their ancient holy land.
@kodoknyabangsTiVEN
@kodoknyabangsTiVEN 19 дней назад
see johns hopskins Genetic Literacy Project research
@Thatoneclass387onthestation
@Thatoneclass387onthestation 19 дней назад
Yes but most of thier people were gone so the ottomans took it and it became palestine so yes it might be their ANCIENT city but was it their modern? Don't think so.
@adamheuer8502
@adamheuer8502 День назад
@@Thatoneclass387onthestation Yes it was the place they lived in in modern times. The UN partition plan was drawn up based on majority Jewish areas at the time of independence. You can’t get more modern than that
@TheDdog3010
@TheDdog3010 8 месяцев назад
Leaving out some VERY key details here
@malakalsharoaa9275
@malakalsharoaa9275 7 месяцев назад
Watch the full video... this is just part of it
@Do-UR-Research2749
@Do-UR-Research2749 7 месяцев назад
How about starting in 1300 BC and not in the 1930s.
@zayaan7011
@zayaan7011 7 месяцев назад
Lol. Who has any source from 1300BC?
@brian6696
@brian6696 7 месяцев назад
@@zayaan7011the Bible and Torah, Egyptian hieroglyphs, archeological evidence?
@zayaan7011
@zayaan7011 7 месяцев назад
@@brian6696 why only look at those two books? Of you are looking at religions books than you must also look at the Quran as well. 😅
@mosessong1840
@mosessong1840 8 месяцев назад
I don’t care about who supports who I care about the innocent civilians who are dying because of this conflict. Babies, women, entire families are dying because of this conflict
@GoingForth
@GoingForth 8 месяцев назад
People seems to forget the civilian involved in this conflict. They cared more about who's right or who's wrong, because they media told them to.
@JustIssybee
@JustIssybee 8 месяцев назад
It all started by stealing the Palestine land and calling it Israel
@mohammedgouigah3094
@mohammedgouigah3094 8 месяцев назад
This is not a "conflict", this is colonialism. The word Conflict makes it seem as if Palestinians and Israelis got into a dispute lol
@GoingForth
@GoingForth 8 месяцев назад
@@mohammedgouigah3094 I prefer to call this a "conflict", because the term is more broad and more neutral compared to "colonialism". Edit: The "neutral" one, is my position in this matter! There are no "neutral conflicts/disputes". Why is it so difficult to understand? I'm just trying to state my opinion. I used the term "conflict" to avoid any controversial statement, and shows that I am "neutral"
@mohammedgouigah3094
@mohammedgouigah3094 8 месяцев назад
@@GoingForth It is neutral. That's the problem. This issue between Israel and Palestine is anything but equal-sided.
@opportunisticobserver
@opportunisticobserver Месяц назад
99% of Americans don’t know this side of the story
@timothydunn438
@timothydunn438 Месяц назад
Because it's fiction.
@kudaibergeno
@kudaibergeno Месяц назад
​@@timothydunn438 Heal your mental health bro
@gavrielmusheyev141
@gavrielmusheyev141 Месяц назад
Because Vox is making up their own stories
@dustinmartin653
@dustinmartin653 Месяц назад
Yeah it’s fantasy.
@bertenheimer
@bertenheimer Месяц назад
@@timothydunn438it’s factual, although this story also leaves out equally bad things done on the Palestinian side. Either way, the past is the past. Gotta look at the present and prevent further conflict while it’s still possible.
@zackcarl7861
@zackcarl7861 25 дней назад
What do you mean " Palestinians have lived there for generations" , jews can comeback to their homeland whenever they please They have been there before there was anything called islam or Palestine This is like saying, i left my home for work and was not living there for 4yrs , in that time some people came and started living there , now after 4yrs i come back and you are saying to me , ohh these people are living hear for so long , you cant kick them out " yes i can , and i should"
@closetglobe.IRGUN.NW0
@closetglobe.IRGUN.NW0 24 дня назад
Except they left for centuries, not 4 years
@zackcarl7861
@zackcarl7861 3 дня назад
@@closetglobe.IRGUN.NW0 they didn't leave completely there were Jews living there , and even if I leave my house empty for centuries it's still my house, I can comeback there as the owner i am
@homelessoreo5118
@homelessoreo5118 4 месяца назад
Every time anyone says that Israel is our only friend in the Middle East, I can't help but think that, before Israel, we had no enemies in the Middle East.
@karlirosek
@karlirosek 3 месяца назад
You're kidding right? Before Israel, there was Jacob!!
@turtlesrprettycool3379
@turtlesrprettycool3379 3 месяца назад
Last I checked our enemy was the Ottoman Empire in ww1
@NeverGonnaGiveYouUp71
@NeverGonnaGiveYouUp71 3 месяца назад
Because back then, USA was not that strong.
@DearProfessorRF
@DearProfessorRF 3 месяца назад
@@turtlesrprettycool3379 the Ottoman Empire was not an enemy. We simply cut diplomatic relations with them and never was a war declared.
@turtlesrprettycool3379
@turtlesrprettycool3379 3 месяца назад
@@DearProfessorRF Enver Pasha had succeeded in bringing the Ottoman Empire into the First World War on the side of the Central Powers, Germany and Austria-Hungary. -Google Yes, there was a war, it was world war 1
@ilyes9890
@ilyes9890 8 месяцев назад
When the victim of genocide become the monster who commit the Genocide...
@WiseAilbhean
@WiseAilbhean 8 месяцев назад
And yet they cry smh
@luisfilipe2023
@luisfilipe2023 8 месяцев назад
Except Jews never genocided anyone lol
@luisfilipe2023
@luisfilipe2023 8 месяцев назад
@@WiseAilbheanthe only ones I see crying are Palestinian apologists
@g7fford354
@g7fford354 8 месяцев назад
@@WiseAilbheanyes people cry when 1400 people are killed in a terrorist attack
@ShnoogleMan
@ShnoogleMan 8 месяцев назад
Why no mention of the massacres and ethnic cleansing against Jews perpetrated by the Arab nationalists?
@eitancarlier9329
@eitancarlier9329 7 дней назад
It's interesting how you forgot to mention that the Jewish committee accepted the 1947 proposal.
@RobertMiller-lq5wo
@RobertMiller-lq5wo 2 месяца назад
This video is about 3%historically accurate
@unknownuser9267
@unknownuser9267 2 месяца назад
Proof
@Rudykawa
@Rudykawa 8 месяцев назад
As Freire once said: Sometimes the dream of the oppressed is to become the oppressor. Perfect for this situation.
@ty313331313
@ty313331313 8 месяцев назад
just forgetting the millions of Jews kicked out of Arab countries over the past 100 years
@natedubin8944
@natedubin8944 8 месяцев назад
We just want to be left alone
@keagaming9837
@keagaming9837 8 месяцев назад
This quote can applied to so many situations, yes.
@azearaazymoto461
@azearaazymoto461 8 месяцев назад
@@natedubin8944 I firmly believe most Israeli and Palestinian people are innocent and that this is a clash between minority extremists in both groups backed by foreign interests, but when you say 'we' you make it sound as if the government of Israel has not been slowly stripping away Palestine's resources restarting the conflict. Where originally Palestine was self sufficient, they later relied on Israel for 82% of their food, and then later relied on foreign aid as all the water wells and farming land they relied on had been seized and controlled.
@ninjafruitchilled
@ninjafruitchilled 8 месяцев назад
​@@natedubin8944You might, but Netanyahu has other ideas.
@dmitri3947
@dmitri3947 7 месяцев назад
A crash course on history of the PALESTINIAN STATE: 1. Before Israel, there was a British mandate, not a Palestinian state. 2. Before the British Mandate, there was the Ottoman Empire, not a Palestinian state. 3. Before the Ottoman Empire, there was the Islamic state of the Mamluks of Egypt, not a Palestinian state. 4. Before the Islamic state of the Mamluks of Egypt, there was the Ayubid Arab-Kurdish Empire, not a Palestinian state. 5. Before the Ayubid Empire, there was the Frankish and Christian Kingdom of Jerusalem, not a Palestinian state. 6. Before the Kingdom of Jerusalem, there was the Umayyad and Fatimid empires, not a Palestinian state. 7. Before the Umayyad and Fatimid empires, there was the Byzantine empire, not a Palestinian state. 8. Before the Byzantine Empire, there were the Sassanids, not a Palestinian state. 9. Before the Sassanid Empire, there was the Byzantine Empire, not a Palestinian state. 10. Before the Byzantine Empire, there was the Roman Empire, not a Palestinian state. 11. Before the Roman Empire, there was the Hasmonean state, not a Palestinian state. 12. Before the Hasmonean state, there was the Seleucid, not a Palestinian state. 13. Before the Seleucid empire, there was the empire of Alexander the Great, not a Palestinian state. 14. Before the empire of Alexander the Great, there was the Persian empire, not a Palestinian state. 15. Before the Persian Empire, there was the Babylonian Empire, not a Palestinian state. 16. Before the Babylonian Empire, there were the Kingdoms of Israel and Judah, not a Palestinian state. 17. Before the Kingdoms of Israel and Judah, there was the Kingdom of Israel, not a Palestinian state. 18. Before the kingdom of Israel, there was the theocracy of the twelve tribes of Israel, not a Palestinian state. 19. Before the theocracy of the twelve tribes of Israel, there was an agglomeration of independent Canaanite city-kingdoms, not a Palestinian state. 20. Actually, in this piece of land there has been everything, EXCEPT A PALESTINIAN STATE. 🤔
@jeffington1224
@jeffington1224 7 месяцев назад
Finally somebody who has seen the history and doesn’t pick after ww2 as the starting date
@bosnianballmapper5996
@bosnianballmapper5996 7 месяцев назад
Palestinians are arabs that wanted freedom
@user-dx9wq7sk7p
@user-dx9wq7sk7p 7 месяцев назад
Palestine british mandatory
@theodorsonfors1391
@theodorsonfors1391 7 месяцев назад
Well yes but it was brittish palestin. If you drag the argument to the extreme you will soon find yourself declaring all land belongs to single celled organisms.
@hulk5801
@hulk5801 6 месяцев назад
How long did it take you to write this 😂.
@Alon_Jak
@Alon_Jak 2 месяца назад
You forgot to mention that in the declararon of Israel, Israel did not wish to forcefully remove Arabs. 8 Armies attacked the newly small state of Israel with the goal of destroying it, and Israel miraculously survived and even won. In its declaration, the state of Israel clearly states full equality for all citizens with no regard to ethnicity or religion. It also states a goal of living alongside peaceful nations. It’s the cost of a war Israel did not start.
@sreamsream
@sreamsream Месяц назад
praying for israel 🇮🇱
@redacted3740
@redacted3740 Месяц назад
​@@sreamsream to be glassed
@redacted3740
@redacted3740 Месяц назад
They declared war because they were stealing Palestinian land, Israel started that war
@zbeatza9910
@zbeatza9910 Месяц назад
​@@redacted3740palestine are just home squatters.
@MoeenKhalil-db6fu
@MoeenKhalil-db6fu Месяц назад
When isreal first became a state, they kicked out thousands of palistianians into small areas, They lost there homes they had for generations. And that was the least bad thing isreal has done.
@alexkiiru1283
@alexkiiru1283 Месяц назад
The arabs said they would throw the jews into the sea in 1947 .Then after losing the war Morroco Algeria and libya expelled their jewish populations .And now they are crying that they are the victims.
@Tinydigs
@Tinydigs 28 дней назад
They're good at that
@ubroc
@ubroc 23 дня назад
And the expelled Sephardic Jews were housed in the abandoned homes of fleeing arabs who planned to return after the genocide by the arab armies was complete
@user-nx2gs5wm3l
@user-nx2gs5wm3l 23 дня назад
When the modern colonizer talks
@sosososososo4148
@sosososososo4148 7 дней назад
They are professional victim larpers
@Tinydigs
@Tinydigs 7 дней назад
@@user-nx2gs5wm3l like Arabs aren't colonizers, lol. They just can't EVER get over losing
@haydensulwer3957
@haydensulwer3957 7 месяцев назад
It’s important to remember history goes further than the 1900s
@holdenchute7883
@holdenchute7883 6 месяцев назад
They only care about what Israeli’s did and take it out of context
@paulwielgosz6046
@paulwielgosz6046 6 месяцев назад
your not going to thump the bible are you? We could argue any countires existance based on any time in history but by 1900 this area had long settled out as it was.
@OfficialRealMadrid.
@OfficialRealMadrid. 6 месяцев назад
you cant just take land if you lived there several millennia ago thats like saying native americans shoud take over the USA because they lived there first its not how claiming land works, its been arab territory since the mid 600’s AD, up until 1948
@abdirahmanahmed8036
@abdirahmanahmed8036 5 месяцев назад
Your arguments does make a bit of sense . Its like saying we should allow the italians to take back the entire landmass of the ancient roman empire 🤦‍♂️
@ehboy1673
@ehboy1673 5 месяцев назад
@@OfficialRealMadrid.no they should it’s their land they got killed for it and have small reservations to live on
@lizardltd
@lizardltd 8 месяцев назад
HOLY SH!T I've never in my life heard such a botched version of history told as if this is how things have happened. I REALLY hope people don't believe you, even though the video sounds and looks really official. I'll add the things you missed real quick (even though you should read the history for yourself because I also have holes in my knowledge). So first of all most of the Arabs that lived during the end of WW2 were immigrants from nearby Arab nations, they came there to work for the British who owned the land, that didn't have an official title, nor was it recognised as a country. Second of all, Jews have been living in Israel for years and years before the second or first WWs. Third, Israel accepted those borders suggested by the UN, while the Arabs decided to ethnically cleanse all of the Jews, but failed luckily and Israel was made, though it was much bigger than we know it today. They gave a lot of that land back to Egypt and maybe Jordan for a peace agreement. It is true that there were horrible things done in that war, but then again, it was a war... And I do not appreciate the fact that Israel destroyed these Arabs' houses after they left/were killed, but it happened. Please, if any of my facts are wrong, feel free to cite me an article that says otherwise, but until that happens, I would massively appreciate it if you'll report this video for misinformation. It twists history in a way it shouldn't be twist, especially not now.
@Beploziu
@Beploziu 7 месяцев назад
Wikipedia says that in 1922 there were 589,177 Muslims; 73,024 Christians and 83,790 Jews. The brits did that Census according to Wikipedia, so according to that jews were a little over 10% of the population in Palestine and the vast majority were Muslims. So correct me if I am wrong, just google search Demographic history of Palestine and go to the Wikipedia Article to search for the data. So it looks just the opposite of what you said, the jews ethnically cleansed the arabs through forced deportation to make way for a jewish state.
@jamessharpe2625
@jamessharpe2625 7 месяцев назад
The part you are incorrect over is where you insinuate that the Palestinian population wasn't there until the British needed jobs done. Yes, the state has never been called Palestine but them people have been there since the ottoman empire. A quick little bit of research will uncover that for you. You insinuate the land was just inhabited until the British empire came along and needed workers.
@lizardltd
@lizardltd 7 месяцев назад
@@jamessharpe2625 I think that the word 'most' is quite clearly there. And sorry if it seems as if I wanted it to sound like no Arabs lived there before the British mandate. Of course some Arabs were there for centuries, but so were some Jews, my point is that it doesn't give any side an automatic claim to the area. I'm only countering the video, not giving the full context to both sides.
@Shunit
@Shunit 7 месяцев назад
@@lizardltd Hey could you cite an article stating the same about arabs coming to palestine for jobs? Thanks.
@ahmed1a1a25
@ahmed1a1a25 7 месяцев назад
info : 1- they attacked egypt in 56 with the uk and france 2-they attacked egypt,jorden and syria in 67 and slaghtered them and took their land and you skipped all this and the war we had to make to get our lands back in 73 and alot of time to get the rest through the doplimacy and that egypt had to force them into a peace that doesnt even favor as and you simply said(they returned them and offered peace)? like showing that they give it out of their hearts or for peace?
@NogChannel
@NogChannel 2 месяца назад
Palestine should of just said yes to the UN border change.
@RandomFishh
@RandomFishh Месяц назад
They should of said yes to giving israel more that 50% of its own land?
@Blindjustice1776
@Blindjustice1776 Месяц назад
​@@RandomFishhthey don't want the land, that is clearly not in the interest of Palestinians. This is obvious through the numerous failed negotiations to give Palestinians land and a state. They want to exterminate the Jews and that is it.
@prestongarvey7014
@prestongarvey7014 Месяц назад
@@RandomFishhIsrael was there first and have been for thousands of years
@yohanag3408
@yohanag3408 Месяц назад
@@prestongarvey7014 goats and camels were there too for longer time…
@NogChannel
@NogChannel Месяц назад
@@RandomFishh Yes
@rcl40403
@rcl40403 6 месяцев назад
History means the entire history not just a cherry-picked era to support biases.
@J1nxer333
@J1nxer333 6 месяцев назад
How did the fall of Constantinople affect Lebron's Legacy???
@LionsHeart3.1.3
@LionsHeart3.1.3 4 месяца назад
​@@J1nxer333😂
@Countcomfortable
@Countcomfortable 3 месяца назад
@@J1nxer333better question: how did the German invasion of the Soviet Union lead to the creation of Snickers
@mohammed44_
@mohammed44_ 3 месяца назад
​@@Countcomfortable I swear these questions are getting only better
@Countcomfortable
@Countcomfortable 3 месяца назад
@@mohammed44_ Here’s the best one yet: Did the November 11th armistice happen because of the Kaiser loosing to a shot from half court
@DarthEyesDragon
@DarthEyesDragon 7 месяцев назад
Skipped the part where Palestine has rejected every country’s proposal for peace among both people. Skipped telling over the fact that every piece of culture dug up is some kind of Jewish artifact while no Palestinian artifacts have been found. 💀
@SuperSenaryO
@SuperSenaryO 7 месяцев назад
And when a group of people come from all over the world with huge numbers and decided to make a state from nowhere, is that acceptable for you ? lol, any reasonable human would not accept that you can measure it in your country !
@SuperSenaryO
@SuperSenaryO 7 месяцев назад
am not saying kick the jews out of Israel it is what it is and it was a mistake in the past, but they want only Israel state with no Palestine , you can make your search on settlers on west bank.
@tomzitiger
@tomzitiger 7 месяцев назад
Skipped the fact that israel was attacked AND WON
@anirudhsharma2720
@anirudhsharma2720 7 месяцев назад
That happened in India and they created even a new nation Pakistan and we don't fight its existence.@@SuperSenaryO
@SuperSenaryO
@SuperSenaryO 7 месяцев назад
@@tomzitiger yeah that happened as they got the best military gear exist.
@ariallen2762
@ariallen2762 7 дней назад
Conveniently skipped all the tensions that led to the Nakba. Since everyone wants to say something had to happen to create Hamas something had to happen to create the Nakba.
@tomalator
@tomalator 25 дней назад
Maybe cutting out a chunk of land in a region full of newly independent nations whose boarders were drawn up by a bunch of Europeans with no regard for the ethnic groups that were already there and then shoving another ethnic group on top of it all was a bad idea. We've only made the situation worse because over the last 80 years, that new state we plopped in there now has new families who lived there for generations, and no neither side can get what they want without repeating the atrocities of the past.
@lilypadrocks872
@lilypadrocks872 8 месяцев назад
All of a sudden they had a historical amnesia
@tubester4567
@tubester4567 8 месяцев назад
What about this. There was 850,000 people living there at the time. But more than 6 million Palestinian refugees are living around the world. How is it possible there are 6 million Palestinian refugees around the world from a population of 850,000? lol.
@pedrolopes3542
@pedrolopes3542 8 месяцев назад
You do realize their fertility rate was almost 6. keep trying to justify genocide, it is gaining Israel lots of support abroad 🙄
@xpharmafiax
@xpharmafiax 8 месяцев назад
​@@tubester4567I am Egyptian, Egypt's population in 1948 was around 20 millions, and in 2023 it is 110 millions. So Mr. "Not very smart guy", this is probably due to a strange phenomenon called reproduction. As a side note, you need to run some emergency IQ test and look for the proper therapy afterwards.
@n9mone
@n9mone 8 месяцев назад
Interesting how the video leaves out the uk hold on Palestine and the genocide of the jews so it could promote more hate against jews
@lilynaw3767
@lilynaw3767 8 месяцев назад
@@tubester4567 That's the way you get a passport to the west. The same way that Bengali crossed the border illegal and exponential growth in 20 years in Myanmar. Then they play a victim card.
@jmk5638
@jmk5638 8 месяцев назад
So are we just going to conveniently chose the timeline that works for your story? History didn't start in 1931
@hoos3014
@hoos3014 8 месяцев назад
Watch the longer video. It's actually a really good explainer.
@kingace6186
@kingace6186 8 месяцев назад
This conflict started with the Belfour Declaration. But you don't need to mention the British when it's a given.
@Daniel-Strain
@Daniel-Strain 8 месяцев назад
You probably wouldn't like to go back as far as Hebrews coming into the area to take the land in the 13th Cent BCE, as described in the Book of Joshua (it's a lot worse).
@xensonar9652
@xensonar9652 8 месяцев назад
It's a clip from a longer video. But I guess it's too long for the Tiktok generation.
@NikoBellaKhouf2
@NikoBellaKhouf2 7 месяцев назад
Start from any year you want and you'll still be in the wrong
@Yousef-rx5lq
@Yousef-rx5lq 14 дней назад
Free Palestine
@DianeRabinowitzArtist
@DianeRabinowitzArtist 3 дня назад
Read the other comments Youssef.
@FroppyVA
@FroppyVA 3 дня назад
Free Trump
@foxboy795
@foxboy795 2 месяца назад
700,000 haven't been "forcely exiled" most of them ran away out of fear
@sauromatae9728
@sauromatae9728 7 месяцев назад
Skipped the part where arabs started waging constant wars against Israel, losing every war and thus losing territory. If they'd sit tight and cooperate peacefully, they'd live much better
@DaAbsolut
@DaAbsolut 7 месяцев назад
Ya and now the hamas are doing war crimes and being terrorists
@violetsapph1
@violetsapph1 5 месяцев назад
This comment needs way more likes
@hakeemdj368
@hakeemdj368 5 месяцев назад
Israel were illegal country, but became legal with UN decision, without asked the owner of the land. 🤔
@Markyboyplaysgames
@Markyboyplaysgames 5 месяцев назад
They won Suez tho
@salamyaya162
@salamyaya162 5 месяцев назад
​@@violetsapph1 It's not because it's false and easily debunkable.
@Drew-sy2bn
@Drew-sy2bn 7 месяцев назад
Free the Palestinians from Hamas
@oxct3621
@oxct3621 7 месяцев назад
Israel *
@unoriginalcontent237
@unoriginalcontent237 7 месяцев назад
​@@oxct3621nah terrorists shouldn't be free
@jackal25301
@jackal25301 7 месяцев назад
From israel
@FireInTheHole69699
@FireInTheHole69699 7 месяцев назад
I LOVE PALESTINE 🇮🇩❤🇵🇸
@Deathbomb9
@Deathbomb9 7 месяцев назад
​@@FireInTheHole69699 it has never been a thing.
@maxonlangevin372
@maxonlangevin372 24 дня назад
When your country is founded on ethnic cleansing....
@RichardPepperman-kk9yb
@RichardPepperman-kk9yb 17 дней назад
Fortunately, there is no Palestinian state. Because it would only exist because of ethnic cleansing.
@mikecarbone8311
@mikecarbone8311 8 месяцев назад
There was no such thing as “historic Palestine”.
@andredesi4583
@andredesi4583 7 месяцев назад
Free palestine 🇵🇸
@The_Gallowglass
@The_Gallowglass 7 месяцев назад
free them from Hamas@@andredesi4583
@asilkinder3609
@asilkinder3609 7 месяцев назад
there is
@b3dazzl3
@b3dazzl3 7 месяцев назад
There’s no historic Israel either
@The_Gallowglass
@The_Gallowglass 7 месяцев назад
@@b3dazzl3 The Kingdom of Israel did exist.
@gilbertsmith2874
@gilbertsmith2874 7 месяцев назад
Tell me half the story without telling me you're telling half the story.
@tehotea3810
@tehotea3810 7 месяцев назад
Ok tell the full one then go ahead
@levka0840
@levka0840 7 месяцев назад
@@tehotea3810it’s jus that they’re leaving things out. It’s not the “historic land of Palestine” as its history goes back to around after the british gave the land to both the Jews and Palestinians. Before then, they lived peacefully under the Ottoman Empire. The Palestinians have no ties to that land, and I’m pretty sure they didn’t even have a name until a 100 or so years ago, being called “trans Arabs” and whatnot. Whoever, the Jews have been there for a while, since the conquering of Canaan, or whatever it was called. And yes, they have been conquered by others such as the Babylonian empire, but they have the deepest ties to the land.
@b9humssjheffreinsebastian598
@b9humssjheffreinsebastian598 7 месяцев назад
​@@levka0840Ottoman empire lost Israel over a hundred years ago... I doubt there's anyone right now alive from that time so don't think it matters. Palestine's existence was recent(though almost a hundred years at this point) yes and that's why it matters.
@Justin-ShalaJC
@Justin-ShalaJC 7 месяцев назад
Thank God you called it out
@revimfadli4666
@revimfadli4666 7 месяцев назад
Tell me you're telling 0% of the story without telling me you're telling 0% of the story
@sorashima
@sorashima 2 месяца назад
This is so unbelievably one-sided but not unexpected from Vox.
@Vichu.
@Vichu. 27 дней назад
nah its 100% expected because they are vox
@alkenizo5017
@alkenizo5017 Месяц назад
Palestine was a region not a country, Arabs from Jordan Syria Lebanon and Egypt and Jews were living together under many empires, there is no mention of Palestinians untill the British mandate for Palestine started the creation of Israel. After arab nations opposed they decided to divide the region of Palestine between the Jews and Arabs with majority vote by the UN in 1947. The Arabs of the region , now Palestinians, rejected all offers ever since .
@RobPires
@RobPires 13 дней назад
It is good that you mention Mandate of Palestine. Was there a Mandate of Israel? The simple answer is no. Because it was meant to be Palestine.
@ap-dk5yw
@ap-dk5yw 8 месяцев назад
This is how you spread misinformation kids 👏
@crazybirdyplayz4596
@crazybirdyplayz4596 8 месяцев назад
Where did they do that?
@Rb39-ej5hh
@Rb39-ej5hh 8 месяцев назад
Everything in the video is true
@crozraven
@crozraven 8 месяцев назад
No. This is how you reveal truth & against propagandas. For once in awhile, Vox are doing something right.
@tanweeransari4034
@tanweeransari4034 8 месяцев назад
Prove a single thing in the video wrong..
@taqiyukenji
@taqiyukenji 8 месяцев назад
U can't prove any misinformation in this video. This is how you make a capping statement. L opinion
@agt155
@agt155 4 месяца назад
Conveniently forgetting 3/4 of Palestine became the Arab state of Jordan.
@thecollector6746
@thecollector6746 4 месяца назад
Now they aren't...conscidering that never actually happened. You tried it...
@fleetwoodcraic4235
@fleetwoodcraic4235 4 месяца назад
As if that would mean Israel suddenly didn’t forcefully ethnically cleanse Palestinian territory
@waludalu5102
@waludalu5102 3 месяца назад
@@thecollector6746 wdum never happened? British Mandate of Palestine included Transjordan
@hooglieable
@hooglieable Месяц назад
Jordan is Palestine, their flags are identical
@fleetwoodcraic4235
@fleetwoodcraic4235 Месяц назад
@@hooglieable “Ireland is part of the Ivory Coast, their flags are identical”
@paradigmbuster
@paradigmbuster Месяц назад
Remember that the Palestinian Arabs would not have been there if the area was not conquered by Muslims in the past.
@closetglobe.IRGUN.NW0
@closetglobe.IRGUN.NW0 Месяц назад
It was common back then. Byzantine palestina was already colonized by Christian gentiles by the 6th century before the arabs took it
@_TLA_Fortune
@_TLA_Fortune Месяц назад
Palestinians, Arabs, Jews, lived there before Muslims conquered it, before Romans conquered it. The Palestinians are as old as tribes of Canaan. Using your Logic, Abraham was born in Iraq, thus his family (Jacob aka Israel) who migrated and settled in Canaan are actually Mesopotemians then.
@paradigmbuster
@paradigmbuster Месяц назад
​@_TLA_Fortune The so called Palestinians are not indigenous to that area as well as Jews. The indigenous tribes no longer exist. There was a revelation of God to the Jews. But the Arab side of the Semitic family jealously wanted the glory. This lead to wars of conquest. But when they lose the war they rally the west against their enemies by presenting themselves as oppressed peoples.
@Andy-gs1sm
@Andy-gs1sm 10 дней назад
Palestinian moslems.
@YisraeliTiger-ez7dy
@YisraeliTiger-ez7dy 8 дней назад
​@@_TLA_Fortunenope, Muslims were never in israel before Muslims invaded Israel and definitely not before the Romans invaded Israel and not old as the Canaan tribes, wishful thinking, go and research
@T1k3mys0n
@T1k3mys0n Месяц назад
To Palestinians , it is Nakba. (because they lost) To Israelis, it is independence day. (because they won) To other countries, it is just a conflict or a war. (because they weren't involved)
@makeroftoys
@makeroftoys Месяц назад
This is deceptive. The plan actually limits these aggressive tactics to critical areas required for defense. (AS YOU WOULD EXPECT IN A WAR) It was NOT widespread.
@T1k3mys0n
@T1k3mys0n Месяц назад
It is what it is.
@_TLA_Fortune
@_TLA_Fortune Месяц назад
imagine Independence in a occupied land. Even dictionary is not helping you mate.
@crikxouba
@crikxouba 8 месяцев назад
If this channel covered WWII like it does this conflict, it would keep reporting on how Hitler was nice to animals and a vegetarian and how mean America was to interrupt such a virtuous man.
@twonumber22
@twonumber22 8 месяцев назад
what's an example?
@alaaabdallah1720
@alaaabdallah1720 8 месяцев назад
Notice at how they give examples, justifying bombing hospitals, churches and mosques
@DoriDembinsky
@DoriDembinsky 8 месяцев назад
No doubt
@twonumber22
@twonumber22 8 месяцев назад
@@DoriDembinsky Example?
@crikxouba
@crikxouba 8 месяцев назад
@@twonumber22 what do you want examples of?
@OliverHelfrich
@OliverHelfrich 8 месяцев назад
Isn't the story kinda incomplete if you tell it like this?
@hoos3014
@hoos3014 8 месяцев назад
Watch the longer video in the link
@roeiyehuda
@roeiyehuda 8 месяцев назад
The video in the link is incomplete as well. Vox is definitely choosing side. And implicitly justifying terror. Very smooth Vox, you made it.
@CatatonicImperfect
@CatatonicImperfect 8 месяцев назад
every story told has a beginning and an end. It's a fragment of a bigger story, which in turn...etc. also, this is a 1 minute short. i mean...
@xensonar9652
@xensonar9652 8 месяцев назад
@@roeiyehuda "And implicitly justifying terror." How?
@roeiyehuda
@roeiyehuda 8 месяцев назад
@@xensonar9652 to post pro Palestine videos showing only Israel as genociders, neglecting important parts of the war in the past and shaping public opinion against Israel DURING THE WAR against the terror of Hamas. This is what I call implicitly justified terror.
@mrfreshest4608
@mrfreshest4608 Месяц назад
So we gonna leave the part where all Arabs surrounding them wanted to eradicate the Jewish state. 😂
@mazgaming2576
@mazgaming2576 Месяц назад
Unfortunately many people are being misinformed by this video 😢
@Vichu.
@Vichu. 27 дней назад
@@mazgaming2576 misinformation is the bread and butter in this conflict and its sad that a lot of ppl are getting radicalized by this
@mazgaming2576
@mazgaming2576 27 дней назад
@@Vichu. Ik 🥺
@Vichu.
@Vichu. 27 дней назад
@@mazgaming2576 even whenI agree that what IDF doing is bad, many people refuse to condem hamas and can't hold two truths at once. For me, it is disgusting...
@lunalingo4461
@lunalingo4461 24 дня назад
yes ppl with brains finally this conflict aint so one sided afterall thank u
@TheCdnLibertarian
@TheCdnLibertarian Месяц назад
This practically misses all of the factors of the conflict. And that “Plan D” was never carried out in any serious manner. Attacks were made against Arab armies and paramilitary groups. Arabs who weren’t forced out by other Arab armies and did not attack Jewish forces were not kicked out and instead they and their families make out roughly 20% of the Israeli population today. With full rights of citizenship. And these Arab Israelis are judges, politicians, doctors, shop keepers, military members, and are found in every walk of life in Israel. The real change in balance of population came around the time of the war of independence when a dozen Arab countries expelled nearly 700,000 Jews of which the majority moved to the new state of Israel.
@GeorgyDaneke
@GeorgyDaneke 8 месяцев назад
Please let us know what’s happened with thousands Jews from other Arabic countries at same time? And who refused to the UN plan and “two state solution” and any agreement at all and started instantly war with Israeli ? And lost it?
@abdelrahmana.abdelgawad6635
@abdelrahmana.abdelgawad6635 8 месяцев назад
in what universe would someone coming into your home with the help of some mafia and demanding 60% to stop hurting you sensible or fair?? also why don't you say how those jewish people were living in those arab countries for centuries before britain started its medling??
@gkagara
@gkagara 8 месяцев назад
What a lie.
@Dynedits788
@Dynedits788 8 месяцев назад
⁠@@gkagarait’s true Palestinian Arab rejected two state solution and Israel fought for it
@didd2810
@didd2810 8 месяцев назад
​@@gkagaraso is Palestine
@didd2810
@didd2810 8 месяцев назад
​@rhinnawi95did Palestinians speak against it or stop it literally ever in the last 75 years? Did any of the Arab govts apologize and call for a safe return for the Jews?
@oceanbelow
@oceanbelow 8 месяцев назад
Praying for Palestine 🤍
@Mheim1911
@Mheim1911 8 месяцев назад
I’m hoping regular civilian Palestinians are safe; however after that I don’t care and nor should you about the terrorists and Palestinian state
@AM-mv6ro
@AM-mv6ro 8 месяцев назад
Long live Israel from Jordan. Palestinians kicked my family out of our family home and later stole it during the Gulf War in the 90s.
@luisfilipe2023
@luisfilipe2023 8 месяцев назад
Israel 🇮🇱
@roeiyehuda
@roeiyehuda 8 месяцев назад
Free Gaza from Hamas that uses its civilians as human shields
@Leftistattheparty
@Leftistattheparty 8 месяцев назад
​@@joao503Literally committing a genocide as we speak but ok.
@michmoore1281
@michmoore1281 Месяц назад
Im isreali but this war should end and both of us should live in peace and hormony
@closetglobe.IRGUN.NW0
@closetglobe.IRGUN.NW0 Месяц назад
I feel terrible for ur people. How do you feel about the fact that the state of Israel was created by colonizers from europe
@aksmex2576
@aksmex2576 7 дней назад
One clarification, Palestinians have been living there for generations as in thousands of years. There is no know migration of Palestinians to the area. At somepoint these people were Cannites, Jews, Christians, etc before eventually mostly becoming muslims.
@Adam-dd5fx
@Adam-dd5fx 8 месяцев назад
Maybe you should tell people why israel expanded. It's because the arabs attacked them multiple times with the goal of wiping out israel but lost every time
@philo9046
@philo9046 8 месяцев назад
not true israel planned to do this wether arabs attacked or not . actually they began doing it even before a Single bullet being shot from any other army
@crazybirdyplayz4596
@crazybirdyplayz4596 8 месяцев назад
Lets not forget that it was called "Palestine" in 1917 for almost 100 years in a country called the Ottoman Empire. Then the British came and colonized it and decided to split it between Palestine and Israel without the arab's consent, that's why the arab's declared war.
@walshy3430
@walshy3430 8 месяцев назад
@@crazybirdyplayz4596Palestine was never a country it was just a made up region as an insult to the Israelis by the Romans after they conquered the land
@gamingwhilebroken2355
@gamingwhilebroken2355 7 месяцев назад
@@crazybirdyplayz4596 Okay? And. The Arabs after losing ethnically cleansed it’s Jewish citizens (who had nothing to do with the formation of Israel) and nearly a million fled to Israel as refugees. To this day they make up the largest group of Jewish citizens in Israel. Curious if you were aware of this fact as a lot of people seem to think Israel is all Ashkenazi, which it’s not. Most Jews in Israel today have no where else to go as there only roots is that region of the world.
@JamieBleu
@JamieBleu 7 месяцев назад
The moral response to being attacked would be to strengthen your borders not expand. Expanding is literally an instigation tactic because you want more war to happen so you can take more land.
@roarshackstudios5193
@roarshackstudios5193 6 месяцев назад
Left out how Arab leaders told Palestinians to leave their lands to make way for Arab army. Also left out that Jews were expelled from Arab countries that contributed to the large immigration of Jews to Israel.
@elfullin
@elfullin Месяц назад
This is false, historians have looked for radio communications and written demands from Palestinian authorities, and neighboring Arab governments saying this to Palestinians, and this is false. Nothing like this was found. Did you even bother to look up if this is true?
@LechMapping
@LechMapping 28 дней назад
The least pro-palestinian trying to seem neutral on the conflict:
@dadlh6394
@dadlh6394 21 день назад
No
@vovafishman5240
@vovafishman5240 3 месяца назад
British Empire accepted Jews, not "Palestine". Stop saying these arab tails.
@sharon.1978
@sharon.1978 8 месяцев назад
Some questions: - Who was their ruler before 1948? - If it was under the British mandate, how could they have a country? - Why did they attack the Jews first? - Why didn't they form a state like Israel did? - Why no Arab nation (there are 22) except Palestinian refugees? - Gaza as a border with Egypt. Why is it also closed for 16 years? - Why Egypt doesn't allow building refugee camps for the suffering people of Gaza? - Hamas in Gaza say they ran out of water and medicine, but they don't seem to run out of missiles? Free Gaza from the tyranny of Hamas 🙏🏻
@crazybirdyplayz4596
@crazybirdyplayz4596 8 месяцев назад
Lets not forget that it was called "Palestine" in 1917 for almost 100 years in a country called the Ottoman Empire. Then the British came and colonized it and decided to split it between Palestine and Israel without the arab's consent, that's why the arab's declared war.
@sharon.1978
@sharon.1978 8 месяцев назад
@@crazybirdyplayz4596 Not true, it was called Palestine א.י. (land if Israel in Hebrew) between 1917-1948 and all the citizens there were called Palestinians, the Arab and the Jews. The Arab Palestininan refuse to call themselves Palestinians because they saw themselves as Arab and didn't want the name because of its Roman origin. Before that, the intire erea was combined with Syria and Jordan.
@Fabioonn
@Fabioonn 8 месяцев назад
- The British - They didnt have a country but the ethnic Arabs lived in the Region in a large majority for a long time and should have had a right for self determination - The Arabs atacked the Jews first because they saw them as an foreign invader which tried to take their land. They saw/see all of Palestine as Arab land so from their viewpoint they are defending their land. Would you like it if your country would have to give up half it land because the europeans sad so? - Its kinda hard to form a state when you lose a war are constantly occupied and if Terror Groups use the instability to take the power -Why should they? The other Arab countries have enough own problems. The Palestinians should have their own land. Also they fear that when all the Palestinians leave Gaza Israel wont let them back in. Also Israel could stop to make it impossible for Gaza to be selfsufficent. - Egypt has its own Problems they cant take 2 Million Refugees -Again the same reason. - Whats your point? Iran is only sending them missiles. The water supply comes from another source then the missile supply. Free the Palestinians from Israeli Apartheid and force Israel to follow international law. Aka no Apartheid, no Settlements in the Westbank.
@womsky4537
@womsky4537 7 месяцев назад
Yo sharon, Google black september of jordan, and google what the palestainians did in kuwait, in the 1991, when sadam invaded them, how they turned on the people who welcomed them, gave them jobs, how they started looting these people, I'm an iraqi, and the last time I saw a palestaini was when we got invaded by IS in 2014, and now hamas, so yeaaaaaah, peaceful people.
@JasminL222
@JasminL222 7 месяцев назад
​@@FabioonnI agree with everything you've said
@omersimkha3383
@omersimkha3383 8 месяцев назад
The local Jewish people councils approved the division proposed by the British, it was the Arabs who opposed this suggestion and started the war against Israel. Israel fought against 7 different armies from every direction and after 6500 casualties, stood up with the borders that split the land up until 1967.
@JohnVanRaak-yx6cb
@JohnVanRaak-yx6cb 8 месяцев назад
So the British decided over lands that were not even theirs. Palestinians rightfully rejected this. Then Israel even took more land than was assigned to them, and this continues to this day.
@Minposu123
@Minposu123 8 месяцев назад
I wonder why they didnt let a theft steal land from their neighbors🤔
@rah001able
@rah001able 8 месяцев назад
​@@JohnVanRaak-yx6cblol.. that land wasn't even for Palestinians. Palestine a name coined by Roman colonisers who renamed it from Israel to destroy Jews. So yea u have lot to learn.
@monangsinaga8167
@monangsinaga8167 8 месяцев назад
​@@JohnVanRaak-yx6cb you know conquest right? You can claim anything in this world as long you have the power to back it up. The real world is not just sweet and rainbow, wake up.
@Jerrymouse_TW
@Jerrymouse_TW 8 месяцев назад
​@@rah001able and human origin in Africa what your point ?
@user-up6cv3iu5f
@user-up6cv3iu5f Месяц назад
You forgot to mention that the Arabs started three big wars on Israel and lost each one of them.
@danielfarber8696
@danielfarber8696 Месяц назад
How is a verified news outlet allowed to post 10% of the story and say it’s complete? 💀
@closetglobe.IRGUN.NW0
@closetglobe.IRGUN.NW0 Месяц назад
Because it's just a short piece of the full video
@saminik1
@saminik1 8 месяцев назад
Did forget Israel was attacked by all their neighbours the day after declaring independence
@nurlindafsihotang49
@nurlindafsihotang49 8 месяцев назад
you forgot that Israel got land given by someone who does not owned them? gee, wonder why the neighbours does not received the squatters.
@NK-ht3fo
@NK-ht3fo 8 месяцев назад
Please listen to yourself!
@TMsonjakopp7006
@TMsonjakopp7006 8 месяцев назад
Same excuse the British used to colonize native americans and africans. If you take someone else’s home do you expect them to willfully give it up?
@SonHNguyen-qz5dg
@SonHNguyen-qz5dg 7 месяцев назад
​@@nurlindafsihotang49 It was their land that was given back to them after the Arabs colonized it
@aaronrace7591
@aaronrace7591 7 месяцев назад
​@TMsonjakopp7006 It was never just home to the Arabs though, and the Arabs decided to settle the issue through war and were spanked handily.
@shaharh496
@shaharh496 7 месяцев назад
As an israeli and a hebrew speaker, i do know that the "hagana-הגנה" was somewhat of a an exirimist defence group but i don't know the specifics about them BUT in hebrew dalet-ד is the fourth letter which in that case when you say plan "dalet" you mean the fourth plan if the three before that failed, just like "plan D" in english, so i feel like they are perpusfully hiding the full intentions of this story
@j2810
@j2810 7 месяцев назад
That's because there were negotiations before of separating the land but the palestinians refused. They were planning of giving 55% of the land to the jewish refugees including the coasts and farming land that the palestinian economy heavily relied on. They said that they'll take the jews as citizens but they won't accept any separation of the land and in response they massacred them in order to scare the people into leaving. That is what caused other arab countries to react and gather their armies, but they were poor and just out of colonisation so they lost as the israeli army was backed by britain (the colonizers of the arabs) and the US.
@shaharh496
@shaharh496 7 месяцев назад
@j2810 I'm sorry to break your bubble, but in the war of 1948, neither Britain nor the USA helped israel
@j2810
@j2810 7 месяцев назад
​@@shaharh496 I'm sorry to burst your bubble, but they both HEAVILY helped israel and even assured its foundation by bribing arab leaders to recognize israel after the war. In 1948, both funded israel and sent them the best weapons while the arabs were just out of decades of colonisation (some were still under European rule even) and poor. The arabs couldn't buy weapons from the enemy or even produce them and many people were still traumatized by the wars of independence. Regardless of what you think, the jews and palestinians have the same ancestors and they're indigenous to the land. Ben Gurion even believed that the palestinians will let go of their arab culture and join the jewish state since they had no racial link to the arabs (but they were descendants of the canaanites and samaritan jews that converted). That didn't happen of course and the division increased after the Nakba. Go watch the statements given by israeli soldiers during the massacre of Tantura (1948) for example. They're on YT and in hebrew.
@giladadadada1614
@giladadadada1614 7 месяцев назад
@@shaharh496oh yeah israel’s military funds then magically appeared out of thin air
@callmeacutekitten8106
@callmeacutekitten8106 7 месяцев назад
@@giladadadada1614you’re right it didn’t, but it didn’t come form the us or you uk lol
@danbailey8182
@danbailey8182 4 дня назад
Can we all agree on one thing? This all happened because Britian played two ends towards the middle?
@DPM917
@DPM917 2 месяца назад
You left out a couple of seriously important details. The UN proposed to create two states in the former British Palestine Mandate. Jewish leadership accepted. Arab leadership rejected the deal specifically because they were against any plan that would result in a nation for the Jews in that region of the world. They wanted the entirety, including Jerusalem, to be an Arab Muslim state. And they weren’t satisfied simply with protesting the plan. Instead, they kicked it up a thousand notches by declaring war on the new Jewish state, attacking with the intent to eliminate the new nation, and encouraging the local Arabs to leave their homes and villages while the invasion was being carried out. The Arab armies were driven back and ended up losing the war they started. When you start a war, as the surrounding Arab nations did, or ally yourself with the side who started the shooting, as the local Arab (later called Palestinian) population did, and then lose the war you started, you shouldn’t be surprised at the resulting negative consequences.
@Joee1530
@Joee1530 8 месяцев назад
Did you just forget about the Arab invasions and the Palestinian refusal to accept a two state solution!?!?
@gxmody1100
@gxmody1100 8 месяцев назад
Why do you think the Arab invasion happened in the first place? And how does the refusal of a two state solution justify anything? Even tho Palestine accepted the two state solution and here we are.
@mbn9672
@mbn9672 8 месяцев назад
you're being disingenuous, those wars happened after the Nakba where the Jews ethnically cleansed 750,000 Palestinians from their homeland.
@ty313331313
@ty313331313 8 месяцев назад
@@gxmody1100"Even tho Palestine accepted the two state solution" they didnt
@ilFrancotti
@ilFrancotti 8 месяцев назад
Why should they have accepted a blatantly unfair land distribution?
@asiyaasaeed8437
@asiyaasaeed8437 8 месяцев назад
Yeah accept because they had to take a small share, also forget about history why did Isreal occupy the West Bank and control the Mosque Al Aqahs
@Daveyverse
@Daveyverse 7 месяцев назад
Context - The Arab-Israeli War of 1948 broke out when five Arab nations invaded territory in the former Palestinian mandate immediately following the announcement of the independence of the state of Israel on May 14, 1948
@Baboonfromdatoon
@Baboonfromdatoon 7 месяцев назад
Invaded entirely unprovoked. There was no Palestinian state.
@abdullahpatel6086
@abdullahpatel6086 7 месяцев назад
What gave the United Nations the right to apportion 55% of Palestine to a group of people (the Jews) who owned 6% of it and 45% of Palestine to a group of people (the Arabs) who owned 94% of it?
@BonsterBar
@BonsterBar 7 месяцев назад
Maybe they should've fought harder. Jews have been continually losing and reclaiming Israel for centuries. This is just a cycle of history.
@emad3241
@emad3241 7 месяцев назад
the war broke out after the nakba where the jews mass r*ped, murdered and evacuated Palestinians OUTSIDE their agreed upon land (according to the UN)
@Gunnl
@Gunnl 7 месяцев назад
@@abdullahpatel6086 who gave them the right !? Perhaps the fact that the land was under British control and there never was a Palestinian state before, that's why... Arabs were greedy, didn't accepted sharing the land with the jews, and got handed some humble pie in 1948 when they tried to surprise attack them... now they cry that the Israeli's are taking over their land... go figure..
@MedSchoolJourney
@MedSchoolJourney 28 дней назад
How can a minority newcomer be given half the land is beyond my understanding.
@user-ul4wy2lx2m
@user-ul4wy2lx2m Месяц назад
The Jews have been living there for centuries and in 1948 were given the land . The Muslims did not agree so they went to war and the winner takes it all . 😊
@_TLA_Fortune
@_TLA_Fortune Месяц назад
None denied Jews lived there
@MsRandomSmile
@MsRandomSmile 8 месяцев назад
Just a clear tendentious and selective presentation of history. 1.Missing the war following the UN declaration of Israel, 2. missing the Israeli people’s right to return to their homeland, 3. missing that many jews were living in today's Israel when the British and Turkish controlled the area, means not only immigration was populating the area. 4. Not mentioning the main reason for “hagnah”s existence- to protect (hagna in Hebrew means defend) Jewish settlements that were on free lands, 5. Missing out “the Arab revolt in Palestine” that erupted before UN deceleration of Israel, and exhibited the Palestinians and Arabs dedication to expel all those who live in the area jews and British alike.
@Mr.science007
@Mr.science007 7 месяцев назад
Does including and considering all those points justify the indiscriminate killing of innocents that is going on today?
@ac1646
@ac1646 7 месяцев назад
​@@Mr.science007ah, of those murdered on 7 October
@-highvoltage4685
@-highvoltage4685 7 месяцев назад
stealing somebody's home is still called stealing even if the un said you can and the owner of the home will defend his home and there is nothing wrong with that
@GabrielMartinez-zu6li
@GabrielMartinez-zu6li 7 месяцев назад
@@Mr.science007Absolutely not, but people need to stop arguing that the Jews are taking “Palestinian land” when the Jews were the ones kicked out of their home all along.
@user-bf6fc3cg5f
@user-bf6fc3cg5f 7 месяцев назад
​@@-highvoltage4685I wonder how it's your land people are stealing when you were once stealing that land from the Jews? Jews were there first and we all know that, then the Arabs took over, which they surely did not do by charming the indigineous people and their religion.
@usernamerist9621
@usernamerist9621 8 месяцев назад
No mention of the first arabian war... classic vox
@luchiane
@luchiane 8 месяцев назад
Well, what happened? My only question is which came first? I'm genuinely curious.
@abdelrahmana.abdelgawad6635
@abdelrahmana.abdelgawad6635 8 месяцев назад
@@luchiane The nakba happened first but he obviously wouldn't admit that *sorry there I had a mixup, plan dalet is what happened before the war, the name nakba refers to the war itself so the events of this video did still happen before the war happened
@tomertorgeman9927
@tomertorgeman9927 8 месяцев назад
The war happened first. This is basic history
@baronbrummbar8691
@baronbrummbar8691 8 месяцев назад
@@luchiane the arabs attacked a bunch of jewish (and christian) villages then the nakbar happend durring the war as Revenge
@BrutusAlbion
@BrutusAlbion 8 месяцев назад
@@abdelrahmana.abdelgawad6635 pogroms happened first but you wouldn't want to admit to that now would you?
@MillBrownwen-jz1vh
@MillBrownwen-jz1vh Месяц назад
Never let the UK do the bordering
@pazzoaf
@pazzoaf Месяц назад
There is no “historic Palestine” unless referring to Palestinia under Roman rule. The area we know as Palestine has been Syrian, Jordanian, Ottoman, etc. and what this clip fails to mention is that plan D wasn’t carried out “just because” -it was because the Jewish people were first kicked out of their homes in Europe, thought “okay, we’ll just go back to our ancestral homeland” only to be harassed and threatened there, too. So instead of waiting for the Arab population to start killing them, the Jews fought back, albeit preemptively. But such is the story of the Jewish people all throughout time. They’re always the bad guys. Doesn’t matter what’s done to them. They’re always somehow in the wrong.
@closetglobe.IRGUN.NW0
@closetglobe.IRGUN.NW0 Месяц назад
The european jews were innocent in europe 99% of the time. But obviously european jews are guilty of colonizing palestine. Even zeev jabotinsky admitted it
@rodrigopaim82
@rodrigopaim82 8 месяцев назад
Around 700.000 jews lived in north africa and middle east and where also forced to move out. Where palestinians expelled during Nakba to return, would also those jews be able to safely return to their lands, to their previous homes? With safety and political rights that arab citzens inside Israel enjoy? I dont think so. And NO ONE ever talks about that
@asiyaasaeed8437
@asiyaasaeed8437 8 месяцев назад
What joke? Are Arabs enjoying the peace inside Israel?? Are you blind? Do you even know what is happening there? Hamas would not exist if Isreal protected indigenous Palestine ( Christians and musilms)
@patrickquine3945
@patrickquine3945 8 месяцев назад
Yes ! This is also a vital part of the history
@Jerrymouse_TW
@Jerrymouse_TW 8 месяцев назад
only if they want to duh 🙄
@spacegmaxter5918
@spacegmaxter5918 8 месяцев назад
So the main problem was that Palestinians welcoming the Jews…..
@ronaldpo733
@ronaldpo733 8 месяцев назад
shhssss that doesn’t fit the simple narrative
@velocepeyet
@velocepeyet 8 месяцев назад
That’s not entirely accurate about the Jewish people fleeing to Palestine to escape Hitler. The British mandate wouldn’t allow more than a trickle in and turned away many ships. My father was in northern Palestine until 1948.
@madworldusa255
@madworldusa255 7 месяцев назад
In what is now Jordan? Because that was once Palestine Territory.
@MichiganOnTop1997
@MichiganOnTop1997 7 месяцев назад
@@madworldusa255I think north Palestine would probably be Lebanon
@billthecat22
@billthecat22 7 месяцев назад
It's not even remotely accurate. Let's be real about this tripe....
@velocepeyet
@velocepeyet 7 месяцев назад
@@madworldusa255 No Jaffa!
@velocepeyet
@velocepeyet 7 месяцев назад
@@billthecat22 True - I was just being polite.
@forgotarctic2979
@forgotarctic2979 23 дня назад
Respect to everyone in the comments for not blindly listening to the context-less video
@Bagasreal2
@Bagasreal2 Месяц назад
Why does everybody ignore the fact that the reason palestine refused was because that the un drew the border where israel had the lands of people that are majority native palestinians
@lLenn2
@lLenn2 Месяц назад
There's no such thing as "native Palestinians" There was never a Palestinian state. Palestine is the name of the region which includes all of Jordan. If there's any "native palestinians", they should live in Jordan, not Israel.
@Bagasreal2
@Bagasreal2 Месяц назад
@@lLenn2 jordan already has parts in that palestinian region
@_TLA_Fortune
@_TLA_Fortune Месяц назад
@@lLenn2 blah blah blah blah old argument that has been refuted by almost every dimension in universe. too much to say that " Hasbara runs my programmed mind" that would be easier.
@lLenn2
@lLenn2 Месяц назад
@@_TLA_Fortune lol, it's history. How has it been refuted? Like, Muslims weren't around until 1000 years after the Jews. Are you going do deny that as well? 🤣🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣
@mesa577
@mesa577 Месяц назад
Israel wasn't a state. until the brits made it a thing again lol, the jews conquered more land in the area afterwards. so nobody should be upset really over the killings, you are all the same and all have valid claims to the land through ancestry. @@lLenn2
@dylanholloway6983
@dylanholloway6983 7 месяцев назад
Convenient starting point on your timeline...
@Souledex
@Souledex 7 месяцев назад
I mean before that is so far back that it doesn’t really give anyone a right or claim to anything.
@Justin-ShalaJC
@Justin-ShalaJC 7 месяцев назад
Thank God you called it out
@boxingsense3459
@boxingsense3459 7 месяцев назад
She also purposely left out the fact that the Palestinians rejected their own state.
@yeeoo5772
@yeeoo5772 7 месяцев назад
@@boxingsense3459not true. If ur goong to mention something 2500 years ago lets conquer africa since we all supposedly originated there
@yeeoo5772
@yeeoo5772 7 месяцев назад
They started there because it was pure arabs. Its obviously when it all statted
@DSon1207
@DSon1207 6 месяцев назад
Cant believe vox went into this narrative without presenting all the facts.
@charleychristie4260
@charleychristie4260 4 месяца назад
I can believe it lol, it's VOX
@vicarious8478
@vicarious8478 4 месяца назад
It's not their fault that you don't like the true narrative
@jamatifsam
@jamatifsam 4 месяца назад
its a youtubd short
@mcboat3467
@mcboat3467 4 месяца назад
​@simon_krajcovicthen what is true narrative? Lol
@alittlebitofeverything6547
@alittlebitofeverything6547 4 месяца назад
lol only sheed disagree with you
@faraday9234
@faraday9234 Месяц назад
*Casually defending terrorism* *casually excluding information*
@modernnumbers5534
@modernnumbers5534 Месяц назад
India always with you Israel🇮🇱
@closetglobe.IRGUN.NW0
@closetglobe.IRGUN.NW0 Месяц назад
Except in 1947
@msailnsoim
@msailnsoim 26 дней назад
India has always been with Palestine...since according to the Indian stand on this- 'India has also been the victim of occupation & invasion by the British and others so they understand the pain & suffering of the Palestinian people'. Get some education on the historic stance of the Indians on the Palestinian issue.
@captainsaveaho253
@captainsaveaho253 2 месяца назад
You left out the part where at that time the area was controlled by Britain and before that the Ottoman Empire. The Palestinian people had the opportunity to have their own state and be left alone. They chose poorly.
@closetglobe.IRGUN.NW0
@closetglobe.IRGUN.NW0 2 месяца назад
Do u not see how contradictory ur comment is? They did want to be left alone but the british occupiers didn't leave until after they let droves of european jews in and massacred the arabs in 1936 war of independence
@sosososososo4148
@sosososososo4148 2 месяца назад
​@@closetglobe.IRGUN.NW0 It would still remain as Turkish land if Brits didn't come tbh.
@Scooterbeerrun
@Scooterbeerrun 6 дней назад
@@closetglobe.IRGUN.NW0 The attack on Tel Hai happened before that
@Happy_Potato0
@Happy_Potato0 8 месяцев назад
Why would they agree to FORCEFULLY GIVE HALF OF THEIR COUNTRY to others? Would you?
@abyansyafi1815
@abyansyafi1815 7 месяцев назад
“forcefully” is the key here
@autopro1565
@autopro1565 7 месяцев назад
It wasn't there country it wasn't even A country the British took it over in world War one
@mr.patriotjol
@mr.patriotjol 7 месяцев назад
Because they “didn’t own the land”, they were under British rule. Plus the Jews were exiled out of the land for 1000s of years and they finally have their homeland back
@ebudae2000
@ebudae2000 7 месяцев назад
@@mr.patriotjol I'm glad you agree Native Americans should get their land back. It's only been a few hundred years. Aborignals can get back Australia. How about giving back Hawaii?
@mr.patriotjol
@mr.patriotjol 7 месяцев назад
@@ebudae2000 if they want it back. Let them, or just have them act as a separate autonomous state. Either way, welcome to the art of war my friend.
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