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Why there should be Female Transformers 

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On the incorrect belief that female Transformers are weird and ruin a genderless species. Wrong in so many ways... They belong just as much as the male characters!
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@emperorkumquat
@emperorkumquat 2 года назад
Links to my social media: beacons.ai/emperor_kumquat
@zara-hope5518
@zara-hope5518 2 года назад
dear kumquat go to ultra primal's review of rescue bots four bots and a baby, go to comments and there you will find my theory about the other way bots are made and why some of them have parents like wheelie has parents. Hint it's like budden but more.
@Darth-vade123
@Darth-vade123 2 года назад
Female transformers I was like yeah I like it
@totallymark7020
@totallymark7020 2 года назад
Honestly I don't think the problem is that the term female is used on the cybertronians and not strictly male, the thing is like for example arcee was clearly a female there's no doubt about that. But the people don't understand that they are asexual so that term isn't applied to there sex is applied to how they view themselves using Earth terms. Because the term she or even he wasn't probably used on cybertron.
@neoluna1172
@neoluna1172 2 года назад
to defend TFP a little, while you are right the lore about it is dumb, for the gals we do see, mainly arcee, they do an EXELENT job giving them deep stories on par and sometimes above the masculine charcters. The same cant be said for many pecies of media, transformers or otherwise.
@bumblebee6090
@bumblebee6090 2 года назад
I don't like Rey Skywalker because she's a Mary Sue
@RealLpsAngelEyesOfficial
@RealLpsAngelEyesOfficial 2 года назад
Transformer SHOULD have female fans! I've had a few people tell me "You can't be a Transformers fan! That's for boys, and you're a girl!" This is absolutely annoying! No one I know understands that Transformers is for EVERYONE!
@kue5053
@kue5053 2 года назад
It is just a piece of plastic, why these people are trying to stop you from playing with a piece of plastic because of your gender? I thought that ended in the 80s
@RealLpsAngelEyesOfficial
@RealLpsAngelEyesOfficial 2 года назад
@@kue5053 Tell me about it! I just tell them to leave me alone before I yeet them. Lol
@justsomewritingfan2202
@justsomewritingfan2202 2 года назад
Giant robots are universally cool, I dont care what gender you are, if you think Transformers is cool thats just as normal as liking bread.
@Sabina-gz7sj
@Sabina-gz7sj 2 года назад
@@justsomewritingfan2202 i agree, I'm a woman thats too invested in IDW and pretty much all of Transformers. good shit honestly, idgaf
@fees_moonshadow
@fees_moonshadow 2 года назад
Literally
@kellyntaylor8184
@kellyntaylor8184 2 года назад
They did the same thing with Starscream and most of the males having feminine hips but Breakdown has the big chassis
@hybridAbsol
@hybridAbsol 2 года назад
HOL UP
@missyOJ
@missyOJ 2 года назад
Don’t forget G1 shockwave
@dinodude6992
@dinodude6992 2 года назад
Transformers: *meets an organic civilization* Organic civilization: *uses the word gender* Transformers: the f*ck is a gender Transformers after learning what gender is: screw it, I'm a girl now
@jonathanathor117
@jonathanathor117 Год назад
That a beauty of humanity...I guess.
@Bruh00072
@Bruh00072 11 месяцев назад
Our influence is vast.
@justaghostinthesea
@justaghostinthesea 11 месяцев назад
That's... actually a pretty good idea. Like, prior to Earth, Cybertronians had no concept of gender, but adopted it when they adopted Earth's language
@thoth7290
@thoth7290 11 месяцев назад
megatron learns what neopronouns are and enthusiastically adopts "death/deathself"
@arkbot5071
@arkbot5071 2 года назад
Humen: Do the Transformers have have genders? Primus: I'm not sure but I thought variety sounded fun.
@gustavogutierrez6568
@gustavogutierrez6568 Год назад
That's the same explanation with animals in cybertron
@galacticspecter4364
@galacticspecter4364 2 года назад
Starscream in Prime was a trendsetter for being a guy Cybertronian with a slim figure and walked in what were essentially stilettos.
@pajamapantsjack5874
@pajamapantsjack5874 2 года назад
I’m still bummed we don’t have a masterpiece style Prime Arcee, only masterpiece I’d be willing to fork cash over for. Not just for *hxrny* reasons but she is and always will be my favorite transformer from the series I grew up with.
@tyjohnson7616
@tyjohnson7616 2 года назад
Their still doing g1 and they show no signs of doing Prime any time soon maybe in 30 years maybe
@diegodankquixote-wry3242
@diegodankquixote-wry3242 2 года назад
There is the apc bootleg if first edition arcee is too expensive to get now.
@ryanhernandez5632
@ryanhernandez5632 2 года назад
Agreed. Arcee was one of my favorites on designs, but the prime bots all looked very good in the show. The show gave them a very sleek, and human like design. My number 1 and 2 though were prime sound wave and starscream. Hope they do get some master pieces.
@gundradestroyer4480
@gundradestroyer4480 2 года назад
this dummy think in masterpiece line cant be other things besides G1 stuff jajajajaaaaaaaahhhhhhh
@Tom-oz7wk
@Tom-oz7wk 2 года назад
I don't like when everyone assumes that fans buy figures of female characters for hxrny reasons resulting in us having to explain ourselves (even though no one ever assumes the same thing about male toys because of sexism). The female characters are often better written; transformers wfc wasn't well written at all but I found elita-1's character and story to be way more compelling than optimus'. And in transformers cyberverse, slipstream has an actual character arc and I love the whole "struggling villain trying to do the right thing" cliche. Yet people think we buy these toys because they have curves...
@pokeprime94
@pokeprime94 2 года назад
I think the problem is, Hasbro didn’t want female transformers as it was meant to be “for boys”. So now they’re like “oh crap we need more females, but only have like 10” so it’s just a matter of having to create new ones, or gender swapping which can cause issues. I actually like the idea of a female swoop, i wouldn’t want Swoop to just stop showing up but Cyberverse Straife was neat and more fembots is always great, because it just means more characters. However Hasbro still sucks at making female transformers toys sadly, after trying to transform WFC Arcee again really reminded me of this. But I love characters Nautica, Windblade, Annode, etc. Chromia might be my favourite fembot mostly due to her design in the comics, but I’d love to see these characters fleshed out more. Also although they don’t reproduce, another explanation for them having gender might just be so they aren’t confused when they meet species that require gender for reproduction, so they’re familiar with the concept of gender. Hopefully we’ll get a prominent fembot in the movies at some point so it becomes more normal in the general audiences eyes. Until that day, Till all are one
@BPJD2004
@BPJD2004 2 года назад
I like female Swoop, she was cute. But I mean, look at Cyberverse Sludge. He looked like a female when I first saw him (before I heard him speak), and I was really confused at first. Turned out to be a cute character though!
@brotquel1592
@brotquel1592 2 года назад
Don't forget that there are also a lot of female characters that either recieve a toy as a simple repaint (our first Arcee was a transmetal2 Blackarachnia repaint and Chromia... Listen, I just want my swole blue axe-wielding hoplite bot to put on a shelf with her cute geisha gf!) or are straight up left forever toyless! One of the coolest designs to come out from rid 2015 was Filch... Where is her toy, Hasbro?
@primalconvoy
@primalconvoy 2 года назад
@@brotquel1592 Actually, Arcee was originally released as a limited edition (vinyl?) figure at a Japanese convention.
@brotquel1592
@brotquel1592 2 года назад
@@primalconvoy I meant as a transformable figure, but you're right.
@j0j0thefan
@j0j0thefan 2 года назад
I think part of the issue is that they either don't know how, or don't want to put the money and effort into marketing towards girls.
@littlemisstfc
@littlemisstfc 2 года назад
Everybody, say thank you to Elita & her team and Arcee for being the reason why we have more female Transformers today. 💕💕💕💕
@mikathomo391
@mikathomo391 2 года назад
No
@BPJD2004
@BPJD2004 2 года назад
@@mikathomo391 and why not? Elita-One and her team were the first female Autobots of their time.
@Breakaway-ic5gj
@Breakaway-ic5gj 2 года назад
@@BPJD2004 F E M A L E
@mikathomo391
@mikathomo391 2 года назад
@@BPJD2004 because idc
@dangamertop9253
@dangamertop9253 2 года назад
@@Breakaway-ic5gj That's a reference to Shockwave saying that with a green screen?
@glory2cybertron
@glory2cybertron 2 года назад
Speaking of gender, TFP Optimus has a hip-waist ratio and butt reminding me of the female Quarians in Mass Effect and I rewatch the show because he’s so distractingly hot. I love it that he’s so sexually confusing.
@leoninenoble
@leoninenoble 2 года назад
LMAO YEAH
@nojustauser9872
@nojustauser9872 2 года назад
Im scared it was made for fan service 💀
@soaringraven0
@soaringraven0 Год назад
I also think his voice sounds kinda like a Turian, but I think that may be just me
@illseeyaonthedarksideofthemoon
The transformers fan base is very... special...
@Warlord_Megatron
@Warlord_Megatron Год назад
Don't do that to optimus
@SapphireStar23
@SapphireStar23 2 года назад
Gender stereotypes are getting so old now. I believe children and adults alike should like/love wherever they want. And not let what others tell them you can't like it because of what your gender is.
@Swiddy_Swooty
@Swiddy_Swooty 2 года назад
At this point I am rather bored of the usual He and She. I want to see creativity and crazy designs damnit!
@brycedunn4113
@brycedunn4113 Год назад
Couldn't agree more.
@warknightxl2167
@warknightxl2167 Год назад
Yeah I agree. I know I said to myself that I have not seen any people like kids or adults getting bullied for loving transformers, but dang I got a friend of mine who talk to me about a story of a 9 year old boy and his dad(who is friends with my friend) in botcon 2011, they were having a good time in that place and some adult(I'm serious) came to them, greeted them and he started to ask the kid about how he thinks of the new TF series transformers prime which the kid responded that he absolutely loves Transformers Prime and his favourite character is Arcee and oh boy... that freaking adult started labeling him as a bratty prevert child that should go somewhere else in this world and the child was surprised about his response while the dad did not appreciate his attitude towards his son and started to threaten the man that he would call the cops if he bullies him, so the guy started to walk away. I am serious, that actually happen, a literal adult bullying a innocent kid for loving transformers prime and loving Arcee as his favourite character. But lucky the kid today is still doing well thanks to new informs from my friend.
@thisgoddamusernamestoodamnlong
@@Swiddy_Swooty It always struck me as odd that the transformers didn't default to they. and only the ones that landed on earth gendered themselves.
@uberkirbeeh7954
@uberkirbeeh7954 2 года назад
THIS! I've been wanting to voice my thoughts on this topic when talking about it in the community, but it's so hard to do without truing it into a +500 word essay. But you presented and explained the issue perfectly. I'm so sick and tired of having all the fem bots be just a human female body with hour glass frame made from metal. It makes no sense when all the males can have vastly different body shapes, build, figures and frames, but all the females look the same.
@emperorkumquat
@emperorkumquat 2 года назад
I was hoping this short video would help people find the right words when they encounter bad arguments against female robots in the fandom!
@soaringraven0
@soaringraven0 Год назад
You're mostly correct, but then we've got Leviathan. She's pretty bulky
@cesar6447
@cesar6447 Год назад
"males can have a vastly differente body shapes" Except like 3 of them all males are you fridges with eyes
@uberkirbeeh7954
@uberkirbeeh7954 Год назад
@@cesar6447 You clearly do not know what I'm talking about nor do you care. Why are you here?
@trashboat5388
@trashboat5388 7 месяцев назад
500 words is like 2 pages if we are talking formal Mla type of essay
@alexlemonds2838
@alexlemonds2838 2 года назад
Primus wanted to imitate life forms he'd encountered. It's also why there's animals on Cybertron.
@kylethefan6062
@kylethefan6062 2 года назад
In most cases the wildlife is never explained or onyx prime used the mask to see time and space of creatures and threw himself into the well of allsparks
@alexlemonds2838
@alexlemonds2838 2 года назад
@@kylethefan6062 I hate the 13. So overrated.
@pleckyd
@pleckyd 2 года назад
I believe in curviness for all robots
@LockeLynx
@LockeLynx 2 года назад
Memorable femme transformers to me (regardless of affiliation or continuity): 1. Arcee 2. Elita-1 3. Chromia 4. Flamewar 5. Strikka 6. Airachnid 7. Slipstream 8. Windblade 9. Blackarachnia
@Tom-oz7wk
@Tom-oz7wk 2 года назад
I'd like to add a couple more if its okay (I know it's your list and not a community project but I like to talk) a. Victorion b. Mistress Flame Both from the prime wars trilogy. It was cool to see a female combiner even if she sounded like Thor (Uhhh Shakespeare in the park. Doth Mother know you weareth her drabes)
@K1ng_Squ1dZ
@K1ng_Squ1dZ 2 года назад
You forgot nightbird and shatter
@Tom-oz7wk
@Tom-oz7wk 2 года назад
@@K1ng_Squ1dZ plus Filch. I think we might be going into forgettable territory though
@LockeLynx
@LockeLynx 2 года назад
@@Tom-oz7wk they're not quite as memorable to me as those I mentioned in my list. Sorry, these names come to my mind much quicker than Nightbird and Shatter, Victorian, and Mistress Flame. I didn't really grow up with them.
@Tom-oz7wk
@Tom-oz7wk 2 года назад
@@LockeLynx that's fair. If I made a list of ones I grew up with, it would literally just be arcee (tfp) and chromia (rotf) but even chromia is somewhat forgettable because Michael Bay would never give female characters screen time unless they were there as s3× appeal
@randomuser5443
@randomuser5443 2 года назад
I mean, id imagine just having one general body type is kinda boring. Plus thinning down can be advantageous for less material use and less weight
@cupcakeprime559
@cupcakeprime559 2 года назад
I have to agree, as more acrobatic bots would need thinner frames
@kylethefan6062
@kylethefan6062 2 года назад
Transformers prime Arcee
@zara-hope5518
@zara-hope5518 2 года назад
am I the only one who wants to see a cute little protoform like in IDW silent light but in prime? It would look so adorable and to see miko's reaction to the baby. 😍
@kylethefan6062
@kylethefan6062 2 года назад
Primes long dead now
@zara-hope5518
@zara-hope5518 2 года назад
@@kylethefan6062 If they ever bring it back but 10 years have past sense team prime have been on earth and reunite with raf,jack and miko because of strange energy signals and bring the humans along on this mission. Just like old times. the arrive to an area near jasper that was cyberformed there they see something glowing and see proto matter just as it closes around the glowing orb and when they get closer arcee gos in front to take a better look and sees that it's a protoform (that looks like the one from IDW but oh can't spoil it). she brings it over to the others and says that they may of found a hotspot and in miko fashion just goes on about how it's a baby and that it's super adorable.
@moonwhooper
@moonwhooper Год назад
@riverwarrior5518 bro whipped out out an entire fanfic
@dreadhavoc
@dreadhavoc 2 года назад
yes we need more. I believe Transformers Animated had the most as standby civilian bots.
@kennethsatria6607
@kennethsatria6607 2 года назад
Its a really weird situation in the comics that for a long time they couldnt do genders and suddenly Arcee in that is basically a trans transformer and the default of things was gay blocky dudes. Like it really racks the mind on how sexist the idea in the early days was that "we cant have females in this franchise cause its only for boys" but in later writers this became a chance for homosexual respresentation of all things. Which is a good hustle ngl. But I just dont really want any of this drama in transformers, just have genders be a thing and call it a day. Individual characters like us can simply choose their orientation.
@emphorepolpatinedasenate
@emphorepolpatinedasenate 2 года назад
I always never question why there was a female transformer when I first started watching transformers ( Tfp was my first). I always thought it natural and didn't need an explanation for it, This is the first time I'm hearing people question a female tf and to me it's a fantasy race so why not.
@urmom6701
@urmom6701 Год назад
Even though I wasn't a huge fan of Robots in Disguise, I'm glad that they introduced more female Autobots and Decepticons, especially Strongarm being my favorite due to the fact that she has a different bodytype to the normal smaller, feminine bodytype. It's little things like this that make body diversity in transformers make me feel hopeful and proud of my body. Windblade is also a favorite though due to design and it's saddening that we didn't get to see more of her outside of the two most hated incarnations of Transformers media of all time (RiD and Cyberverse)
@eyepatchghoul5219
@eyepatchghoul5219 2 года назад
Honestly, as someone who was first exposed to Transformers thanks to the Bay movies. It was hard to have toys like these because "Oh that's for boys," "Sweetie you don't want My Little Pony?" and "That isn't for girls." Like, I was literally watching the films and at the time, Transformers Prime (As well as Robots in Disguise). It always overwhelmed so much, that it almost made want to stop dealing with these things. But I love it so much and I'm bummed that there aren't many female characters other than Arcee and Elita One.
@soaringraven0
@soaringraven0 Год назад
I mean, you could've pushed it through due to the MLP/Transformers crossover, but yeah, gendering media is stupid
@Impactor07
@Impactor07 Год назад
I mean Elita and Arcee aren't the only "female" tf characters We also have Prya Magna, Rust Dust, Dustup, Jumpstream, Windblade, Leivathan(if that's the correct spelling), Chromia, Slipstream, Shadow Striker, Arachnid, Black Arachnia, Air Razor, Strongarm, etc.
@emred4653
@emred4653 Год назад
arcee from transformers prime was both cool, badass and attractive. Its a shame we dont have more of her
@blackpowderkun
@blackpowderkun Год назад
Didn't she made an appearance in Earth spark recently.
@earlsun
@earlsun 2 года назад
People of quality do not fear equality
@MatCor-ty7zi
@MatCor-ty7zi 2 года назад
I think the Cybertronians' alt-modes also play a part in their body shapes. Arcee (in TFP) is a motorcycle, much smaller and slimmer than a truck like Optimus or ambulance like Ratchet.
@soaringraven0
@soaringraven0 Год назад
Yah, Soundwave and Starscream are slim jet-people and Soundwave is a bulky-ass tank
@OpheliaTerat
@OpheliaTerat 2 года назад
I'm a woman and I've been a big fan of transformers since I was kid and my mom was also a fan when she was kid. It'd be nice if toys and cartoons weren't so gendered. As for transformer genders, personally I don't think it really needs much explaining why female transformers exist. Logically, they probably shouldn't even look or act human to begin with. I also enjoy seeing cool female characters and I think it attracts more female fans. Also I agree with your point about them just making a metal human woman and putting all the kibble on the back. I think it'd be nice if they made more bulkier female characters so they wouldn't need all the back kibble. Or at least do what they did with Prime Arcee and choose a vehicle mode that isn't super bulky. It'd also be nice to see more slender/curvier looking male characters instead of the same old blocky look as long as they don't have the back kibble problem.
@edgiethehedgie05
@edgiethehedgie05 2 года назад
my brain went straight to the transformers prime version of starscream lol literally my favourite :D
@Impactor07
@Impactor07 Год назад
@@edgiethehedgie05 Literally same 😂😂
@Impactor07
@Impactor07 Год назад
We have the TFP version of Knockout
@chronicallyonline945
@chronicallyonline945 Год назад
Starscream's slim with shapely long legs and heels :)
@SimplySunky
@SimplySunky 2 года назад
Idw2 have some of the best female Transformers designs because they're cool looking robot with very subtle female features. I wish Hasbro and other Transformers fans kept that same mentality
@redrickgale5154
@redrickgale5154 2 года назад
It could be more about design. Arcee from TFP is an agile and quick combatant. Thus having a smaller design that appears more feminine, makes sense for her skill set. Same thing with Arachnid. In Transformers Animated, RC was originally a school teacher (if I’m remembering correctly). So her design is not made for combat. Instead, her design was meant for knowledge, and distribution of knowledge (in more ways than one). As a school teacher, she has a more friendly design, using a softer pallet of colors, and a silhouette that that is non-threatening. It may be, that when we hear “he” or “she”, the transformers are saying a word that refers to a type of build or design that they may have. The words themselves going through the translators and coming out as “he/she”.
@avradio0b
@avradio0b 9 месяцев назад
One fanfic theory I saw was that the closest thing cybertronians have to gender is based on frame type (e.g., seeker would be a gender). In IDW, given the whole functionalism thing, I could see both autobots and decepticons rejecting the notion that anything should be tied to frame type.
@teresaspychalska59
@teresaspychalska59 2 года назад
I honestly also am tired of this whole "masulinity is a default setting" mentality in general, especially with the things I enjoy. For me gender is not something that should matter at all in a series about robots turning into cars, tanks and planes, but sadly as you noted, transformers to this day suffer from their sexist roots. Femninity is not something that should be ridiculed or forcebly differentiated, but simply accepted as a diverse part of life. But at the very least with time we got better with this, and were blessed with so many cool and awesome female transformers of all shapes and sizes.
@illseeyaonthedarksideofthemoon
They wouldn't have sell a single toy if they would had other "default setting"
@sheolsheep6168
@sheolsheep6168 2 года назад
The issue with boxy body types is that these robots turn into vehicles that are mostly cars/tanks, generally things that don't fly. There are exceptions like Tailgate with his enormous thighs and rounded shoulder pads and on the opposite end of the spectrum there's Strika, that's built like a brickwall. Shatter doesn't have a rounded chest either but she's far from the feminine stereotype, just like the bb movie design for arcee that gave her robust legs. Also the use of he/she pronouns is to make things easier to explain without making a lord of the ring esque universe where everything is super specific. After all the franchise is aimed towards both young people and adults
@yesikanarvaez5027
@yesikanarvaez5027 2 года назад
I think we need more of them
@blueraccoon1088
@blueraccoon1088 2 года назад
Good thing there are fan made
@tasmanianwolf4449
@tasmanianwolf4449 2 года назад
I agree with you because female transformers are good
@tylertichoc7330
@tylertichoc7330 2 года назад
This goes exactly with why I would like there to be more "girly" or "pretty" male Characters in media because the fact remains that all males have never been just only big, squarish, masculine, brutish in who they are, that is only how others in society choose to perceive them. And even then, that shouldn't be considered "normal" because not only have more feminine male Characters and actual historical people always been a thing but to assume that "oh, big and rough edged person means male" isn't fair to the people who may fit more of the "normal" male appearnce but they could still have feminine personalities or traits. We should judge people by their actions and what they actually try to become rather then just how some simple minded and corrupt societal norms perceive them as. That's honestly I think part of the reason why I love the Furry Fandom so much. It's kind of hard to say any one single race or species looks "normal" when there are so many different individuals who may even share a same category but still be vastly different to other considered similar to them. I apologise if anything I just said was offensive or brash or anything negative or made anyone uncomfortable. I just felt like maybe I could put my own perspective on this kind of matter out there so that I may better learn from other perspectives different from my own and show that I am willing to learn and tolerate differences so long as you do the same.
@pokeprime94
@pokeprime94 2 года назад
Are there any Yellow Fembots? I was thinking about this the other day after seeing the RID episode where Strongarm is in Bumblebees body
@BPJD2004
@BPJD2004 2 года назад
Elita-One from Animated (before she became Blackarachnia), and I think Goldbug was a femme at one point.
@BPJD2004
@BPJD2004 2 года назад
@La Ciruela Mal Dibujada Botanica's yellow? I thought she was green!
@BPJD2004
@BPJD2004 2 года назад
@La Ciruela Mal Dibujada Oh, ok. I've never seen Beast Machines, so I'm just going off of pics.
@scullduggerouscellaphod2355
@scullduggerouscellaphod2355 2 года назад
you bringing up thick thighs with a picture of drift and bigger lips with a picture of overlord gives me so much seratonin. idw is one of the continuities that introduced me to transformers and got me into it. (i do hc idw cyclonus as nonbinary too, mostly just me projecting a little tho)
@Mike-mf3ed
@Mike-mf3ed 2 года назад
I never understood why these were and still technically are “problems.” It’s annoying and frustrating to think about it!
@murphy138
@murphy138 2 года назад
I finally got around to reading IDW, and I agree it has the best female characters. I think the best example is Lug, but that's just me.
@kylethefan6062
@kylethefan6062 2 года назад
Really lug?
@kinnikuman-devilman_fan_2002
@kinnikuman-devilman_fan_2002 2 года назад
Wait- you mean Lugnut or Lug?? :/ I don't know what's going on-
@BPJD2004
@BPJD2004 2 года назад
@@kinnikuman-devilman_fan_2002 Lug is a character from Lost Light, she transforms into a girlfriend backpack. There is a female Lugnut in Cyberverse called Clobber, though.
@kinnikuman-devilman_fan_2002
@kinnikuman-devilman_fan_2002 2 года назад
@@BPJD2004 Oh-
@cinfernoproductions392
@cinfernoproductions392 2 года назад
I never found female cybertronian's weird
@javivaki
@javivaki 2 года назад
I think that the most perfect in between of a masculine female and a feminine male structure is Splendid Convoy, the yellow repaint of RID01 Optimus Prime/Fire Convoy. She should be used more often in fiction to set a standard of diversifying body types for any gender.
@eelguttz885
@eelguttz885 2 года назад
You know which are my favorite girls? Lug and Anode. They are whole vibes
@LockeLynx
@LockeLynx 2 года назад
I don't mind there being a Male & female Cybertronians (mechs & femmes) in fact I'm down for it. It makes them more like an actual living species rather than just a bunch of constructed robots. It's just that whole thing of being able to easily modify gender through the excuse of "they're robots" that irritates me, especially in the later IDW before it's reboot. Or in Cyberverse, the creators tried to change the gender of certain characters just to try and either shoehorn or forcibly diversify the cast.
@kylethefan6062
@kylethefan6062 2 года назад
I just think that they shouldn't overcomplicate it or just not say anything
@Breakaway-ic5gj
@Breakaway-ic5gj 2 года назад
Fembot
@kinnikuman-devilman_fan_2002
@kinnikuman-devilman_fan_2002 2 года назад
Nah, I would rather be a transforming hamburger like Burgertron from BotBots XD
@soaringraven0
@soaringraven0 Год назад
As a transfem Transformers fan, my answer to "why should there be female transformers?" is simply "why not?"
@kingstarscream3807
@kingstarscream3807 Год назад
I've never seen a robot with dick and balls before. Don't see why we need robots with ovaries. They are entirely made of metal.
@apolloknight9521
@apolloknight9521 2 года назад
Wait? People complained and find something weird about this? I always thought it is natural to have female Transformers…
@kylethefan6062
@kylethefan6062 2 года назад
How long have you been in this community
@kingstarscream3807
@kingstarscream3807 Год назад
How is it natural for metallic robots to have biological sex?
@chaoticneutral7976
@chaoticneutral7976 2 года назад
Don't forget Arcee wasn't in the first live action movie because Michael Bay couldn't fathom how an audience would feel about a girl robot in a movie full aliens that turn into cars. Sure the Arcee triplets eventually made their debut but it's amazing how something as stupid as "a girl transformer might confuse people" was what was prevented her character in the first movie. Thank God we eventually got Shatter as a main antagonist who doesn't have a traditional feminine body type and no one batted an eye in Bumblebee. Hopefully Rise of the Beasts doesn't drop the ball to "explain" gender with Airazor and Arcee.
@kylethefan6062
@kylethefan6062 2 года назад
Well Arcee for the first movie it was that they would have felt obligated to explain but couldn’t with the movie and that allegedly Bay considered her to small compared to the other cast
@kylethefan6062
@kylethefan6062 2 года назад
@La Ciruela Mal Dibujada no
@cakefrosting6451
@cakefrosting6451 Год назад
Don’t forget they had to make a scrotum joke (with the oddly placed wrecking balls) in the second Bayformers, when the bots are suppose to not have genitalia.
@demonking86420
@demonking86420 Год назад
Bay literally relegating two prominent Female Autobots as "clones of Arcee", why is no one finding that to be wrong
@creativedragon27
@creativedragon27 Год назад
I like the fact they point this out due to the fact back during transformers prime there was a female predacon called ripclaw made but never shown in the show
@zara-hope5518
@zara-hope5518 2 года назад
you should do a compilation of funny things from the novels and covenant of primus. they sound hilarious🤣🤣🤣
@royepic3504
@royepic3504 2 года назад
In all honesty shatter from the bumblebee movie was probably the best version of this she was feminine but she looked like a proper transformer
@aderose
@aderose 2 года назад
A lot of my favorite Transformers are ironically almost all female. Sari Strika Windblade Elita-1 Arcee (Prime) Slipstream Flamewar (2019 IDW) Pyra Magna and the Torchbearers Strongarm Arachnid Moonracer Javelin Shadow Striker Blackaracnia Aileron Novastar Lug Anode Nautica Velocity Glyph Mistress of Flame Solus Prime Botonica Red Alert (Animated) Lightbright
@kylethefan6062
@kylethefan6062 2 года назад
Why is mistress of flame there I have never heard of her being a favorite
@Husker.88
@Husker.88 2 года назад
I only like Transformers prime arcee and robots in disguise 2015 strongarm
@hybridAbsol
@hybridAbsol 2 года назад
Ahh yes, robot harem
@kylethefan6062
@kylethefan6062 2 года назад
@@hybridAbsol legends Tigertron would agree
@yetkinbilgen3430
@yetkinbilgen3430 Год назад
@@hybridAbsol Sultan Optimus Prime you said
@zara-hope5518
@zara-hope5518 2 года назад
Unrelated but who wanted to see buster the puggle in tfp? If there was an episode where the kids find a box of abandened puggle puppies (one of the little girls is buster) and take them to the base how would the bots and cons ( when buster follow's miko onto the battle field) react to the little puppers?
@steamroddsroundhouse2080
@steamroddsroundhouse2080 2 года назад
I totally agree keeping femms in tf media. Idc what they look like but theres gonna be fans quistioning about everything especially getting butt hurt when fems has a bit of human female anatomy. Aren't mechs no different? Yeah I'm all for fems being in the tf media. What's hilarious is when I draw my friend's ocs people call Me sexist when I draw curvy tf fem designs especially when those ocs come from girls and they apporve.
@star.master_cranium
@star.master_cranium 2 года назад
Me(a guy):Never understood what was the problem with female Transformers. Literally my second fav Transformer is Arachnid and/or Arcee!👍👍Guys who the f cares?!
@Serena13
@Serena13 2 года назад
As a female transformers fan I heavily agree with this video
@RealLpsAngelEyesOfficial
@RealLpsAngelEyesOfficial 2 года назад
Welcome to the club, sister
@illseeyaonthedarksideofthemoon
Female opinion is important unless it disagress with the narrative
@quantumsurge7250
@quantumsurge7250 2 года назад
I'd like to mention the gender debacle in rescue bots as in one episode, Salvage and Blurr were confused by the concept of gender but as soon as Quickshadow arrives everybody can immediately determine that she is female.
@RoyalKnightVIII
@RoyalKnightVIII 2 года назад
Not enough talk of kibble placement occurs during gender discussions
@5OUNDZWAV333
@5OUNDZWAV333 Год назад
6:20 Nightshade:am i a joke to you?
@shadowjeremy3083
@shadowjeremy3083 Год назад
They weren't a character back when the video released
@Blastertronus
@Blastertronus 9 месяцев назад
@@shadowjeremy3083*They weren’t
@lotusdragonjbh
@lotusdragonjbh 2 года назад
The argument i see taht fails the most is "these are asexual beings, having female makes no sense. " Asexual creatures can look like anything, you can have creatures that look masculine and feminine and still be asexual or agendered. To argue against female appearing cybertronians is to argue against male appearing ones too. Ans it makes it seem like you are unintentionally advocating for androgynous cybertronians that look like neither. Male is just as much of a gender as female after all. And I can make my robot look however I please. I can make them look like a hippy male hooker with tiny heels or I can make them look like a female my little pony style dragon for all I care. They are transformers. Transform them . Also allow me to add that I've been a transformers fan for years , and a girl last I checked. Gal transformer fan. my mom introduced it to me and my siblings, most of whom are gals. She was there from the start... So I do not get them breaking their next to make it strictly for dudes now.
@xenowarsgames3806
@xenowarsgames3806 2 года назад
Because of an accident in Cyberverse, we have a male that just swaps body forms because he wants to. Acid Storm is a he, but uses a male or female Seeker body at random times, which is cool to see!
@bumbleprime7713
@bumbleprime7713 8 месяцев назад
Bro is really putting the "trans" in transformers
@isabelleholtorf7865
@isabelleholtorf7865 Год назад
It could be possible that Transformers could have parents. In Transformers Revenge of The Fallen, Jetfire mentioned his father and in The Last Knight, Hound mentioned his father.
@blackpowderkun
@blackpowderkun Год назад
Depends on the continuity. In one continuity there origins are the all spark + protoform then get raised by a female bot. I think in the allign continuity post war they adapted the creation of family units.
@pilkkimies
@pilkkimies 2 года назад
Your argument is logical.
@SpeedDemon_Editzzz
@SpeedDemon_Editzzz 2 года назад
More arcee😋🔥
@williamhiemstra4925
@williamhiemstra4925 2 года назад
yes
@them.
@them. 2 года назад
4:06: "Because trust me, the fans find it attractive anyway" Can confirm, Overlord would be a babe if it wasn't for all the murder, torture, death fights, temporary ending of the best relationship in all of Transformers, and other assorted war crimes
@morgmeyer
@morgmeyer 2 года назад
I agree with every single one of your points, exempt from the neoprounouns part. it makes sense, but I feel like that's a bit of a leap.
@imajenn3006
@imajenn3006 2 года назад
Really, really well thought out and presented.
@mdxque8393
@mdxque8393 2 года назад
Arcee from Prime is my favorite. ☺️🥰 As for the "female body-type" designs, while most Transformers should have a athletic/soldier appearance, both male and female, different body builds wouldn't hurt, we got some big bois so we could have some big gals. I actually think Clobber, (big gal) is kinda cute.☺️🥰 Uh... I'm trying not to sound superficial... I will not apologize though for having a Transformer wiafu list, that has both Arcee and Clobber though. ;)
@UrbanTheFox
@UrbanTheFox 2 года назад
They should be the Default for Cybertronians. It's also great for toons as toy Ads as it encourages the use of character names which helps marketing.
@zara-hope5518
@zara-hope5518 2 года назад
Could you do a video about buster thundercracker's dog?
@totallymark7020
@totallymark7020 2 года назад
If ima be honest I kinda didn't like that fact that the cybertronians couldn't have kids. Not because of anything weird I would just like to see an father Ironhide yelling at his kids for taking one of his giant cannons😭😭💯, and all I hear is "CLASS DISMISSED!"
@joshuagonzalez4183
@joshuagonzalez4183 Год назад
a g r e e d
@fatimahanwaar306
@fatimahanwaar306 Год назад
I'm a girl and I like Transformers (if I pretend like those live action movies never existed) when I was 12 years old I had a big crush on all of the characters mainly Bumblebee girls should also be allowed to watch the cartoons and buy the toys and enjoy them without being mocked
@gualbertogascon2767
@gualbertogascon2767 2 года назад
I love that rid 2015 and cyberverse break the stereotype, that the female characters have female human bodys and they give them bodys similar to the male characters making the vehicle mode part of the body
@mattwarner3611
@mattwarner3611 2 года назад
In the 80s was different. In Cyberverse with acidstorm and skywarp might be editing error.
@danielmedela8725
@danielmedela8725 2 года назад
We´ve also seen some shell-formers among male bots, sadly, as they are kinda bad.... and male Transformers nipples. Looking at you, Wreck-Gar! It´s a shame IDW has lost the rights. And yeah, Simon Furman will only be remembered by the big disaster of Spotlight Arcee, as none of his other histories are remarkable enough to fix that disaster.
@Rubywing4
@Rubywing4 2 года назад
I am guilty of using "he" as a genderless pronoun and not really writing any female OCs or official Cybertronians in my fics, but the OCs I end up writing in mostly just die, though I do like to "write a design" that has a feminine design but uses the male pronoun. I never put any thought into the male pronoun issue until now. So thank you for enlightening me! I also now realize that a pretty large number of characters in Cyberverse are female - heck, even several characters normally male have been turned female, like Cosmos, Skywarp, Nova Storm and Clobber (Lugnut from Animated). Not to mention that several of the generic Seekers with no names also have female voices (and lipstick, oh well) and not just being all males. And no one questions the he/she pronouns, ever! Not even when Acid Storm seems to change between appearing male and sounding female (then with lipstick) throughout their showtime. I think Cyberverse is going in the right direction. :3
@Derpmaster-zy7qi
@Derpmaster-zy7qi 6 месяцев назад
G1 Shockwave: FEMALES, I THOUGHT THEY WERE EXTINCT
@tvfunkyman6269
@tvfunkyman6269 2 года назад
I kinda feel like relatability is put the window at this point. They are giant metal aliens. They are meant to be entertaining, not relatable
@-Wayla-
@-Wayla- Год назад
Why can't something be entertaining and relatable? Have you seen the comics, some of the shows and games? They want you to understand these characters, not just watch them throw fists at each other like in the movies.
@Husker.88
@Husker.88 2 года назад
You know in Transformers robots in disguise 2015 if you zoom into Bumblebees eyes it kinda looks like he has eyeliner on
@ebrahimalkasem6243
@ebrahimalkasem6243 2 года назад
Nice video as usual ☺️ But i want to know when will you realise the second chapter of mercy on RU-vid ?
@ryanhernandez5632
@ryanhernandez5632 2 года назад
Well it really doesnt matter whether there gendered or Not. Since they reproduce ether by factory(independent or by assembly line) Or by self dividing(in the event of critical species loss) Then of course there's primus who pumps out bots now and then. As to there being separate genders it's likely a way to differentiate each other better since it isn't uncommon for there to be hundreds of bots with the same builds/designs besides different color schemes and self modification. I think bots like bumble bee , starscream, shockwave and sound wave are good examples of the many possible body types. Be is pretty small and lean for a standard male bot, And sound wave and shock wave share similar body types with some difference in shape, with the exception of there heads. And starscream has almost 10 different look alike with the same builds except witbdifferent colors, and 1 or 2 of the are also female bots too. And those bots while the same hight and build differe in only in there slimmer body type All in all there isn't any issue in them sticking gender label in my opinion because doing so has no effect on the characters or there interactions with others
@MrBruh-yb9qi
@MrBruh-yb9qi Год назад
Question: why do transformers have gender? Primus: yes
@_chilledmechs_4450
@_chilledmechs_4450 2 года назад
I LOVE THIS!!! You explained this perfectly, and it makes so much sense. :D
@Spotfire5150
@Spotfire5150 2 года назад
Doesn’t cyberverse already have a female lead? Aswell as a lot more female transformers
@primalconvoy
@primalconvoy 2 года назад
Thanks for this interesting video. It's also interesting that "Crasher" from the original Gobots cartoon, did a much better job of including female bots. One thing of note is that the English we "hear" read are more or less the universal translation, so it's perhaps "our" prejudices that we read or hear (even though, in fact, it's also those of the writers)? I do think they should use more neutral terms, such as"they" for most TFs or aliens, etc (and then using gendered terms appropriately) and also while I'm at it, I wish they would not use gendered or "human" terms for themselves ("chairman", "pencil-pushers", etc). Anyway, cheers for the video!
@evildave42a
@evildave42a 2 года назад
I've seen those sexist folks too, I'm a cis, het, male and I never got why it was an issue to have female bots, hell GoBots had them from episode 1, I played TF with my sister all the time. Besides, the argument they commonly use is that the bots have no gender and the choice of male pronouns is either implied to be random in universe or male pronouns are just considered "normal", these same folks would have a stroke if you pointed out that by that logic identifying with ANY gender would make all of the bots transgendered. Yeah, Optimums Prime is trans.
@kingstarscream3807
@kingstarscream3807 Год назад
Seems you confuse sex with gender, transphobe. Nobody is saying it is wrong for robots to have gender, but female is a sex, not a gender. Metallic robots having anything akin to human biological sex is stupid.
@evildave42a
@evildave42a Год назад
@King Starscream Dude, don't pretend you care about those semantics, you're not fooling anyone. This is why most MAGAits stopped pretending to be liberals by 2018, because even their own internal logic falls apart so quickly that they only wind up looking like Scooby-Doo villains.
@kingstarscream3807
@kingstarscream3807 Год назад
@@evildave42a You're the transphobe yet I'm the MAGA supporter? Great logic there, Sherlock.
@evildave42a
@evildave42a Год назад
@@kingstarscream3807 sure bud, by the way, this you?: "Robots are robots. They don't have biological sex. The idea of male or female Transformers is ridiculous." Kids, if you're going to come in to tolerant spaces and try to sow division by pretending you're one of them, don't call people words that actually mean things, it just makes you easier to spot.
@SylviaMoonbeam1127
@SylviaMoonbeam1127 2 года назад
Loved the video
@AUselessHumanCalledSarah
@AUselessHumanCalledSarah 2 года назад
Wait why tf would people argue of why transformers have female characters in it? I'm suprised-
@kylethefan6062
@kylethefan6062 2 года назад
Clearly you haven't been in this fandom that long
@AUselessHumanCalledSarah
@AUselessHumanCalledSarah 2 года назад
I entered the fandom like 2 months ago so yes. I'm a shameful rookie.
@tarn4633
@tarn4633 2 года назад
A true Decepticon always respects his comrades whether they are fembots, bots, beastformers or minicons.
@dangamertop9253
@dangamertop9253 2 года назад
Since when do Decepticons respect 'bots?
@tarn4633
@tarn4633 2 года назад
@@dangamertop9253 Since you started to read, Autobot sympathizer. Let me play you some fine music.
@BPJD2004
@BPJD2004 2 года назад
@@tarn4633 Go Tarn!
@BPJD2004
@BPJD2004 2 года назад
@@dangamertop9253 Mind you, Decepticons can be the rational ones, caring, kind, respectful. More so than any of the Autobots because the Decepticon movement began because of Autobot oppression. Most of the Autobots cane from Cybertron's upper and middle caste, while the Decepticons came from the lower and lowest castes.
@dangamertop9253
@dangamertop9253 2 года назад
@@BPJD2004 Yes, I understand that, but Decepticons are not respectful towards Autobots for obvious reasons, the same goes the other way around. Don't call me an Autobot sympathizer just because of your assumptions. I actually really like all 'cons from WfC/FoC more than the Autobots, mostly because they are cool and not evil, even though they do bad things. Megatron is a competent leader, Starscream deserves the air commander status, the combaticons feel very close to each other, almost like a family and the 'waves are very charismatic.
@Ryder-a-Blaze
@Ryder-a-Blaze 2 года назад
I really do hate gender stereotypes, anyone can like Transformers or anything else.
@birbsap
@birbsap Год назад
6:25 Your wish has been granted
@glory2cybertron
@glory2cybertron 2 года назад
I consider them all genderfluid in the sense how some species of animals can switch gender over the course of their life depending on circumstances, only that Cybertronians can be what they want whenever it suits them no matter how temporarily.
@cofagrigusfan24
@cofagrigusfan24 2 года назад
and yet the sad part is the 1/13 gender ratio... makes sence with the Lore Hasbro has made as it has to do with the 13 primes, the first Cybertronians only 1 of the 13 was female
@wyattcastle7225
@wyattcastle7225 2 года назад
Fun fact, in the original Marvel run of Transformers the Watsonian reason for why Arcee was created was because feminists were complaining that there weren’t any female Autobots. It honestly is a contender for one of the worst in universe explanations for not only Arcee’s origin but explanations for why female transformers are a thing.
@horsehay
@horsehay 2 года назад
I do think that using she is fine, I like it and I don’t care but honestly this whole video’s answer to the “problem” is kind of lame.
@drigoleus1055
@drigoleus1055 2 года назад
I think one of the problems with g1 arcee or elita-1 design wise is that they are woman first and then a transformers For example titans return subnatica is a good example for that I think its better to not give an explanation couse most of the time when they try it doesnt work that well, couse if they are males without explanation why not females? And have more female characters be more common (sry for my bad grammar im not a native speaker)
@IAmEvilTree
@IAmEvilTree 2 года назад
Great video. Agreed on IDW2, not only do they have a diverse female cast alongside it's diverse male cast but also, as you say, don't bring up gender. They exist, they're everywhere, and no explanation as to why is given, nor is it needed; helps normalises the concept of gendered Cybertronians. Transformers acquiring a concept of gender from organics makes sense; if they're willing to take the forms of vehicles, tastes in music and other things from alien cultures, why not concepts like gender? Do some Transformers choose a gender or just roll with what gender the race they're talking to gives them? The 13 primes are given genders in some telling; was that them meeting organics themselves or did modern Cybertronians ascribe those qualities to them in hindsight? There's a number of interesting stories you could tell. I'd say either a) Don't mention it. Have diverse character of both genders and don't remake whether it's unusual or not. Or b) dive right into the deep end and explore Cybetronian and their relationship with gender in story building depth.
@Bruh00072
@Bruh00072 11 месяцев назад
Robot is robot. Problem solved 👍
@becca1chan8773
@becca1chan8773 2 года назад
Honestly I never got the idea that female characters in transformers needed to be explained because in a franchise with weird shit like canned food induced lycanthropy, Bumblebee peeing on a guy, the flip flopping authorial intent when it comes to Sideways, and various crossovers being simultaneously canon and not canon it's the robots that use "she" as a pronoun that doesn't make sense. If anything they shouldn't be questioned as it's absolutely mundane compared to the actual weird stuff that goes on in this franchise.
@alejandroelluxray5298
@alejandroelluxray5298 2 года назад
I like how Hasbro has managed to do that in most of it's series, although I agree that this should be more normalized in the franchise Cyberverse I believe was one of the series that make body variety best
@JadeMythriil
@JadeMythriil 2 года назад
This is why I like Cyberverse for allowing more inclusion of female transformers. Although some pre-existing transformers being reassigned as female may rub some people off since its not how they're used to seeing those characters. Still this could just be a reinterpretation of the character and I quite like a few who were reassigned a different gender such as Swoop.
@miyako1909
@miyako1909 Год назад
Clobber and Shadow Striker are great.
@demonking86420
@demonking86420 Год назад
Uhhhh didn't Animated start the genderswapping? Red Alert, Drag Strip, Sunstreaker, Road Rage
@reddawn1873
@reddawn1873 2 года назад
they really should just use it/ its/ they/them pronouns to show they are machine and it would make the most sense or maybe they're gender could be xeno and be literally what they are like Optimus identify's as a truck
@justice8718
@justice8718 2 года назад
Optimist Prime and Megatron don't want to look and sound like lame fuckers from tumblr. By slightly understanding human culture, they would love to use he/him purely because of how it fits them.
@reddawn1873
@reddawn1873 2 года назад
@Justice you haven't been on tumblr you have no clue on what a xenogender is and your speaking for fictional characters they can sound as manly as they like That doesn't mean They won't use they them pronouns or identification for themselves
@justice8718
@justice8718 2 года назад
​@@reddawn1873 Hahaha. Megatron and Optimist Prime want titles that put them into a respectful positions. Xeno that, fucking them, and other vague non-gender shit is offensive and treats them more like disposable objects rather than high ranked warriors with an identity.
@8ball180
@8ball180 2 года назад
@@justice8718 maybe in a human context but probably not in the context of their own species
@justice8718
@justice8718 2 года назад
@@8ball180 What are you talking about? Human culutre refers to powerful genderless entities as "him" all of the time.
@katrina8231
@katrina8231 2 года назад
Maybe one day we could get a video talking about the humans in transformers prime, no one really talks about them very much and it's be interesting to see what we don't know or what could've happened, or maybe find out why so many human companions of the autobots are often forgotten about after a series, like how transformers cyberverse I think was the sequel to prime, the humans from tfp are completely forgotten about when bumblebee and the others come back to earth, I need answers
@kylethefan6062
@kylethefan6062 2 года назад
It was robots in disguise 2015
@zexalcommander7036
@zexalcommander7036 2 года назад
Cyberverse is in no way related to Prime's continuity, perhaps you meant Robots in Disguise 2015 which is a Prime sequel?
@Breakaway-ic5gj
@Breakaway-ic5gj 2 года назад
They didn't care enough. For me personally, human characters should be deleted except common soldiers that accompany Autobots, they are the most logical choice for protagonist as they well obviously fight with the Autobots and have the most in common with them because they are... Soldiers. Random civilians or annoying corporate people should stop showing up, they are often not entertaining and forced in. For the TFP humans; they were fine. Fowler was the best imo, you can tell why
@Karlos1234ify
@Karlos1234ify 2 года назад
I love your videos.
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