Why THIS Is The Worst Harry Potter Movie 

Ron/Lavender was extremely important. It shows that Ron gets wenches

@@Set451 there is that I suppose. If we are talking about the romances I’m more mad about how they botched Harry/Ginny. Come on, it happens after quidditch cup not at the end of the movie…

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Same here: favorite book/least favorite movie. If any book needed two movies, it was this one

@@kylewood2715 hard agree!

Eh, I like Voldemort....but the more I analyze the character, the more I realize that he isn't that good at being an evil mastermind and would definitely pass up an opportunity to kill Harry at the Burrow with zero defenses lol Here are my examples (I'm very sorry for how long it is, but i am passionate about calling out Moldyvort's dumb moments). - He organizes the overly complicated Goblet of Fire conspiracy, where he has to patiently wait for Harry to complete a dangerous tournament for an entire school year just to have a shot at reclaiming his physical form and killing Harry at the cemetery....when he could've just sent Pettigrew or Barty Jr to kidnap Harry while he sleeps or something (they're sneaky so I'm sure they would be able to find a way to get Harry out of Hogwarts without apparition) -He keeps idiot servants like Lucius Malfoy on his team despite him being an obvious liability and a complete failure at literally everything he has tasked him with. -He invents flight via dark magic, but the existence of apparition makes it basically pointless. -He sends his minions to steal the prophecy from the department of mysteries because going to the ministry himself would blow his cover and reveal his return.........but then at the end of the book he just says "screw it" and goes into the Ministry to fight Dumbledore and ends up revealing himself to Fudge and the other Ministry members like an idiot 😅 -He keeps all of his Horcruxes hidden in various parts of the UK (which is a relatively small area) when he could've just hidden them in remote locations in several parts of the world. If Voldemort had hidden the diadem in Antarctica or something, then Harry would've been screwed. -He waits till the end of every school year to attack Harry and his friends instead of being unpredictable and attacking Harry at literally any other point in the year to throw him off. - Voldemort insists on using Avada Kedavra to kill Harry instead of just using basically any other deadly tactic to do it. He could stab him, drown him using the Imperius curse, throw a giant rock at him....ANYTHING! -He chose important artifacts to be his Horcruxes to make the eventual treasure hunt easier for Harry and his friends.....when he could've just taken something like a normal rock...made it a Horcrux....and thrown it into a massive pile of rocks.....rinse and repeat six more times. -He sends Narcissa (the lady that isn't even an active member of his terrorist group and whose child he traumatized for an entire year) to check on Harry's corpse instead of sending someone more trustworthy to do it. - He's powerful enough to fight Albus Dumbledore but not powerful enough to keep his nose and hair....big L

@@lechocolat3783 I think you’re missing a few details. Your first point, up until the World Cup, Barty Crouch Jr. was kept under the imperious curse under an invisibility cloak in his father’s house and Pettigrew is supposed to be dead and Dumbledore would be on the look out after the events of the previous book. He learned about the tri wizard tournament from Bertha Jorkins, a character murdered in the book, and the point was to get Harry away from Dumbledore, and Dumbledore doesn’t just let that happened. To be fair, Lucius was one of the first to defect after Voldemort’s disappearance, and Voldemort punished those who managed to stay out of Azkaban. He gave Lucius a chance to redeem himself with mission to get the prophecy, only for him to fail, and spend a year in Azkaban. But the reason he keeps Lucius is a similar reason Wormtail joined, to be on the winning side. There are different types of magical travel. Brooms, portkeys, apperation. Voldemort just learned how to fly without a broom, but it was the same thing the Order did during the battle of the ministry. And no, flying without a broom doesn’t make apparition obsolete, apperation gets you there faster. Because the order became involved. Also he joined the battle after he learned the others failed. And a prophecy can only be retrieved by those the prophecy was made to. Voldemort gets Harry to go to the department of mysteries to get the prophecy, and the death eaters get the prophecy from him and the underestimate a group of school kids. All the places Voldemort has his horcruxs hidden are places that have significance to him, the cave where he traumatized those kids, the house of Gaunt since the Gaunt family was the last descendants of Slytherin himself. The diary was made as a weapon to open the chamber of secrets, The LeStrange’s vault in Gringotts, and the room of requirement, meanwhile Nagini stayed with him. Most of the school year Dumbledore is keeping an eye on Harry. And Hogwarts is one of the most protected places in the country. Avada Kedavra is an instant kill. Literally you are dead before you hit the ground. And Voldemort absolutely hated anything that connected him to the muggle world. Dumbledore explained why you don’t use a regular item as a hot up in the books. And Voldemort wanted the things that connected him to the wizarding world. And considering how Voldemort viewed himself, of course he would go after the founder’s items since Hogwarts was his home. Because he’s been humiliating the Malfoys the whole book. He uses their home as his lair, uses Lucius’s wand, tasked Draco with killing Albus Dumbledore for Lucius’s failure at the ministry. And Narcissa hadn’t shown reason not to be trustworthy. And his transformation was from ripping his soul into multiple pieces.

I think you can blame Goblet of Fire for the flying death eaters.

@@adarshbs7259 Well, not sure. They apparate and they land on the graveyard. So I dont think they're supposed to be flying.

@@LennartWaldemar well that style of apparition they developed became the norm in order of the phoenix. This apparition/smoke gliding was the movie version even for the order members. But of course as said in the video nothing is as bad as skipping through Voldemort's backstory which was basically what the movie was supposed to be about.

Yes! This always bugged me. It overpowers them way too much. You already have the Order taking a more pacifist route by refusing to kill any of the death eaters. How would they ever stand a chance when the bad guys are not only willing to torture and murder their captors but are also able to fly?! It makes no sense. I remember reading the Deathly Hallows as a kid and being like "OH SHIT" when it got to the Voldemort flying bit. Also hard agree on the sepia filter. I think it could have been SO effective to use it in the first DH film when they start wearing the horcrux to illustrate how it was draining all the hope and joy from life and emphasize how heavy a burden it was.

the flying thing really bothered me as well, although they introduce that in goblet of fire i think first and it's definitely used in order of the phoenix. i agree it's stupid and they never explain why they can do it or why "good guys" can't or won't. like fenrir greyback is out here flying but dumbledore can't? just dumb

and over Harry's new broom on book 3.

I'd go so far as to say that Harry and Ginny didn't come out of nowhere either. Ginny always had a crush on him.

@@angelicasmodel Ginny having a crush on Harry was pretty much her defining feature for books 2-3. She basically became a background character for a bit in the books, being Neville's date to the Yule Ball and getting a boyfriend. Which allowed for her to basically be re-introduced in Book 5 as a more mature and sassy character. I'm afraid I don't recall if the Order of the Phoenix movie made that a priority though. You tell me.

I don't think it was well executed in the movies. And I also felt like they had zero chemistry. It was just awkward IMO.

The romances in the series are awful

right? i was agreeing with the whole video up until this and then i had to pause cause, boy, did y'all skip the yule ball????

@@Larucos seems like another case of "acting smart about harry potter without actually paying attention to harry potter, not mention to knowing the books".

There's the famous case of Ron standing up for Hermione on The Prisoner of Azkabam after Snape asked a question in class and she gave a perfect answer, only for the movie adaptation to change it for "He's got a point, y'know?" Also she was clearly disappointed in him for not inviting her to the "prom" in The Goblet of Fire, and Ron is so obviously jealous of Viktor Krum is ridiculous. Even the movie gets this right. So yeah, Ron x Hermione was pretty obvious from a very early stage.

They get it half right. Yeah the reason for Ron’s jealousy is exactly the same, but the movie butchered what happens as a result of his jealousy. In the book Hermione confronts Ron after the Ball is over and they end up shouting at each other over it. What does the movie do? Ron is portrayed as a petty jerk who spoils Hermione’s night and reduces her to sobbing alone on the grand staircase. The movie’s went out of their way to make Ron more like Malfoy as they progressed. He’s a complete jerk who goes out of his way to insult his supposed friends. It’s the thing I hate most about his character in movies. In the books Ron is a bit ignorant and his insecurities manifest as jealousy but he is incredibly good at strategy and loyal to both Harry and Hermione. Even in the last book with his temporary leaving the hunt. It’s made clear that he is worried about his family above everything else and Harry who dismisses these concerns tells him to leave. What do we get in the movie? Ron again being a total jerk and making his leaving about romantic jealousy. “You’re parents are dead you have no family.” The fact that this was written in movie makes me sick, because even under the influence of the Horcrux Ron would never say anything so disrespectful to his best friend. Ron was done so wrong in the movies I’m glad a TV adaptation is coming because they can fix it.

@@joshz2491 agreed. It just goes to show that every time they had a chance of portraying his bad side (he can be a jerk sometimes, remember the "this is why she has no friends" line), they escalate it to the the extreme, and then they shy away of portraying his best qualities, such as his extreme loyalty. It makes their relationship feel kinda weird in the movies because one side has all these great points (genius, brave, outspoken) while the other brings almost nothing to the table.

You see, all the other movies are serious - Distinctly and especially from the third, and it's more pronounced with the fourth (Chris Columbus' first two films understandably feel like family-friendly adventure fare), so I think the light-hearted romance angle with some heavy hitting action mostly at the end, gives the film a wonderfully unique identity, ultimately being refreshing.

I personally really really liked that it has some light and teenage fun moments, considering how dark Orden Of The Phoenix was with Umbridge controlling the school. It felt like the kids got to enjoy themselves again after such a bad time

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It was definitely an odd and jarring choice to emphasise the comedy and lightheartedness of the story with such dark colouring and the overrall tone of the film. I couldn't take either seriously because of the contrast.

I have to say, I think you're mistaken. Without the comedy and teen drama, the edgy suspense is happening to bland and emotionless characters we don't care about. This is why the MCU formula works despite audience fatigue. The problem isn't that it was a bad way to do things. The problem was that it was a good way to do things but they commercialized it and tried to do it so much that it became annoying and also that the rate that they started pushing them out caused a lot of them to be rushed and therefore not have the proper lead up or pay off or either. People got to peak behind the curtains and see that Mr. Oz is not all that fascinating after all. Quite, this movie is easily the best of the series and would have been even better without the attack on the burrow scene. Having a Harry Potter without the comedy and teen drama is like having a Fast and Furious movie without the family. It's just a bunch of action that you can't bring yourself to care about unless you're completely braindead. While there is a big market for that judging by the last 5 or so FnF movies. That doesn't make it good. That just makes it profitable. Which is good in it's own way, sure. But also really stupid.

They didn’t have feelings for each other at the Yule Ball Ron was salty that Hermione was with Viktor Krum Hermione wasn’t romantically interested in Ron at all in book 4

@@Yvanehtnioj2000 you are very oblivious. Ron was fangirling Krum like crazy until the second he showed up with Hermione, and she was clearly upset that Ron didn't think of asking her to the ball as his obvious choice. If you miss this nuance in their fight, it makes little sense. Hermione even yells that at him, that he should've asked her first if he didn't like that she was with someone else, and Harry mentally agreed that this was exactly it.

​@@Yvanehtnioj2000Clear you are thick-headed as Ron and Harry in matters of romance.

@@ToothlessPotter lmfao why y’all always gotta try and insult someone for being wrong or having a difference of opinion smh it’s not that deep sir

Is it implied/telegraphed in the movie? If it did, I didn't notice.

@@thinkinginsideout4053 It isn't. But the video claims this was the fault of the book too, and the OP is disproving that

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​@thinkinginsideout4053 it's definitely telegraphed in the 3rd film with that little line from Hermione to Ron outside the Shrieking Shack, "should we move a bit closer?" which flusters Ron who misunderstands Hermione's suggestion to get closer to the shack.

@@indy-fs6de did not notice that

The opening scene is someone being murdered

When harry almost fell from his broom it was life or death stakes. What are you talking about? Hougwarts was always the worst place to keep a child at, you can die by slipping off the vanishing stares and breaking your neck.

Exactly!

There's actually some serious notes on Prisioner of Azkaban as well. Sirius and Remus almost murder Peter. There's the whole notion of betrayal and war-like decisions involved.

@@burieddreamer bruh, the prisoner of azkaban was the one where there absolutely was no threat at all the entire time, and only harry's one stupid insistence on not killing peter has caused any problem in the first place

Still, I think that Prisoner holds up way better because it doesnt cut as muchor cuts things that can be saved or implied in other ways. Its structured way better and takes itself way more seriously

@@julianpradarodriguez7336 agreed. It has enough going on and focuses on our 3 heroes on a way that still works. It's still my favorite of the films.

Goblet of Fire (the movie, not the book) fares just as poorly as HBP. An obvious example is Dumbledore's characterization, but the reframing of the whole mystery subplot is terrible. The mystery is simple and almost obvious, without nearly as many nuances and details as in the book. Barty Jr. is shown from the very beginning. Just too many stupid decisions and cut scenes, and while I can respect David Yates for trying to experiment and create a tonally dynamic movie with Half Blood Prince, (even if I think he didn't succeed) I'm just shocked by Mike Newell, who was too lazy to even read the books

Don't forget Deathly Hallows completely ignoring Voldemort's family history. Before I've read the books, I never knew Voldemort's family and the significance of the horcruxes because the movies never mentioned them.

@@One.Zero.One101 you're right, I had completely forgotten about that!

The films were really on a winning streak. 5 excellent films. Goblet of Fire was actually quite good it was just corny because, believe it or not, Harry Potter is a fantasy. They were all quite good up until the Half Blood Prince blunder was churned out. Someone commented on how HBP was more risky. But not in the right way, and the risk did not pay off. Really not relevant to the events in the book. The whole focus should have been on the mystery of the potions book and the horcruxes.

As a fellow film watcher only, this perfectly describes how I felt as well!

@@jesseleeward2359 Goblet of fire was probably one of the movies I replayed the most! I loved the competition aspect, the high, dangerous stakes, the different settings of the games. I wouldnt even say it was corny, although I should give it a rewatch!

*Assuming Zaslav doesn’t decide to turn that into a tax writeoff

I am not optimistic. It is TV so I am sure it will just expound on the unnecessary romantic details in the books that didn't make it into the movies with good reason. It was wise of the filmmakers to whittle down the romantic sub plots into brief exchanges, like Pansy Parkinson and Fleur Delacour. They did a good job suggesting and implying the changes in relationships with limited screen time. Harry Potter with always be quite a spectacular example of adaptation. The Harry Potter series was a on a roll where all the films were quite excellent And it was a phenomenon they managed to pull everything together in such a way. The glaring exception being the Half Blood Prince which is barely even watchable. It is just torrid and awful.

The thing is TV shows have the 'potential' to be better adaptations, but we all know that potential is not always realized. Plus the comparisons to the legendary actors are unavoidable. For many people, Maggie Smith, Alan Rickman, Robbie Coltrane, will always be the definite versions of the characters.

Agreed! Prisoner of Azkaban was bleak, but arguably more magical than the first two!

Yep. His movies look super dull and "dark" just on a surface level, whereas the books get darker and darker in tone but the magic still remains. The Goblet of Fire was the perfect balance.

I couldn't say it better myself!

Yep, and sketchy scenes that don't flow, and the huge preference for muggle clothes instead of the robes.

Eh....I disagree it looked bleak and gloomy in a good way really not just desaturated. It isn't really a nightmare, it's just darker really.

What about when compared to the book?

8th movie is the worst imo

4th is the worst for me

Agreed, for me the 5th was the worst

The hell version did YOU see?

IKR. It was my favorite film bc except for the end, it was what I imagined school life at Hogwarts would have been if it wasn't for Voldemort. It was really what I was waiting for in the series. Teenagers being teenagers at a boarding school.

I thought all the stuff with quidditch and casual things around Hogwarts was a bit too much repeating of the other books. It was not that interesting anymore with the war coming. The pace of the book was therefore too slow for me. The adaptation of the books is very hard to put in a single movie. Apart from "the hafblood-prince" I found "the goblet of fire" an exaggerated action movie with hardly a compelling story line. Ron was almost a side character in that movie.

The character assassination in the movies is what makes me hate them as an adult. Ron is dumb and increasingly jerk like towards Hermione and even Harry. He is not like that at all, he is a smart strategist, extremely loyal to his friends and family, he may be insecure or insensitive at times but he’s not malicious or cruel That’s just one of several characters butchered by Hollywood stereotypying

I feel the same. I see the books and movies as two separate entities, which I enjoy equally in different ways.

The movies are trash to me, bad acting bad dialogue some redeemable moments... nowhere near the quality of the books

I only read the first 3 books. Even though i never read the 6t book, it feels like so much was left out idk😅 The first 4 movies feel well adapted and have enough material used for the movies. I have the feeling that since the 5th one the movies are less detailed and feel kinda rushed. The 6th and 7th part 1 are my least favourite i would say. Also the atmospheres of those movie dont feel so magical anymore… When i read the first 3 books i felt like getting a extended version of the movies. I have the feeling if I read the later books it would feel like something totally different.

Same here. There’s something pretty about its bleakness

Rewatch this one the most Just a great movie imo

Yeah it's my favourite

My fav too

This has definitely been my favorite movie to rewatch. It's the funniest one.

The Hufflepuff’s cup one might’ve been important, considering it ends up being a Horcrux that becomes important in the Deathly Hallows Part 2.

Sure it is

Ohh ur so true on this ... Dude was pushing Harry & Hermione all the way upto end of deathly hallows part 1 and then suddenly realised " Damn , this was supposed to Canon 😮 !!! ” And expected people who saw only movies to just accept it & Book readers to impress by that .

I agree w/the idea that the "books were filled with so much stuff." For example, the books showed us how Harry deals w/bullies--both young and old. They also showed us the Wizarding World's total separation from the Muggle world in terms of jurisprudence, law enforcement, penal system, economy, banking, governance, education, and other spheres. I also like how the kids were able to spend time in Hogsmeade, including visiting the candy store, Honeydukes, and the bar, The Three Broomsticks, for butter beer, a concoction that was never explained in either the books or the movies. If readers of this column ever visit Harry Potter World at Universal Studios Orlando, Hogsmeade and Diagon Alley are re-created from the movie at the park, including Ollivander's Wand Shop and Honeydukes. While visiting the latter shop a few years ago, I finally found out what Cauldron Cakes looked like (they were never shown in the movie or described in the books): they were shaped like cauldrons, orange in color, with frosted flames at the top of the cake. Unfortunately, I never got the chance to buy one or to try butter beer.

👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽yessss i came to say 5 is the worst one of them all

The main problem of the series as a whole is that JK invented too many magical solutions that make a lot of what the characters do downright nonsensical. Riddle me this: in a world with Veritaserum or polyjuice potion, why does Dumbledore need to convince Harry to get him to ask Slughorn something? Why don’t the Weasleys even TRY to put out the fires consuming their home using magic…? Why doesn’t the trio even TRY to heal Dobby? Characters simply don’t even try to solve issues using the readily available magic tools, and since there isn’t a clear magic system outlining the limits to their use, as a viewer you’re like “…did they establish some kind of limitation I’m not remembering? Or are the characters forgetting they are wizards…?”

Y’all crazy

it's arguable, might be the most boring chapter, 3rd act is nice, but then again which Harry Potter movie 3rd act doesn't bring excitement

Nah, OotP.

@@SchmergDergenno. It was definitely this or the Order of Phoenix

@@Mialikesthings so you agree with half of what I said lol thanks for the time waste

@@SchmergDergen I made a mistake I meant Goblet of Fire.(idk how lmao)

You just realise at one point that they can't put everything from the books into films. They would be just too long. Also what would be the point of watching those films if everything there was 1:1 to the books? It would be boring.

Just give me Harry’s sass from the books and I will be happy

@@FranciscoOyola94 Maybe Dumbledore can _actually_ ask calmly, too

It's kinda funny how The Order Of Phoenix is the longest book but the film seems to be the shortest one.

It's because all of them were quite excellent. The series was a triumph five films in a row. This one took unnecessary risks and they did not pay off. I think they were not focused on the one book but maybe were distracted by the whole series. I don't know

As a film director, that's the point. The movies should look and feel like they're sequels from each other, not just told that it is.