Why Training with Anakin Made Obi-Wan WAY More Powerful (Sith Training) - Star Wars Explained 

The one that Mastered both themselves an then the Form in question. To the point even the most harmless move can be made deadly or lethal an same for the most lethal of techniques to merely detour or stun..

Not the point he’s making

@@H1jackpro It may not be the intended point, but it’s the reality of combat.

@@chrisburton3571 which is part of the point hes making

@@thinkintelligently5925 It’s an obvious point, so why not just come out and say it without making it sound like it’s something “special” for only Jedi.

@@chrisburton3571 because while it’s true for everyone there’s an exceptional improvement for force users. Lets say everyone increases their “power” by 50% in war time, force users such as Jedi or sith get more like 80% increase because of their sensitivity to the force improving and being honed

Amen❤❤

Can we leave the bible out of star wars, thank you.

@@findit6333 why? this is great quote

@@findit6333 no, John 15:18-19 18“If the world hates you, know that it has hated me before it hated you. 19 If you were of the world, the world would love you as its own; but because you are not of the world, but I chose you out of the world, therefore the world hates you."

Did that melt your little snowflake feelings? ​@@findit6333

Yet another recurring theme from the Lucas Film Canon: Balance between Light and Dark, even if you lean more one way than the other. It’s cool to keep finding new ways in which both sides of the Force compliment each other rather than oppose (within reason, of course)

Definitely correct because even in sports when I was young training in ice hockey I would always train with the best people I could train against and quickly rise to their skill level if they where more advanced to begin with or help them increase their skills to give me a challenge to cause myself to become better at the same time. I always enjoyed having the difficult challenges of opposition who is as good or better than myself. With all of the close knit competition of us teammates we quickly learned what each other would do when in certain situations and always would be moving to either back up the other persons position because we knew what they was doing or we would go to a spot for a no look pass that would open up the ice for us to get a ton of scoring chances. This type of training goes well in virtually everything from sports, fighting sports, and anything that takes skill/physical prowess. When I moved to Alaska at the of 11 I hadn’t ever ice skated or played ice hockey (would enjoy field hockey in elementary school the couple times they let us all play) but within the first 3 months of being in the state during winter my neighbors behind our home had their own ice rink and was a family of brothers (one in my grade) the rest where on the variety hockey team that I was on myself later. I would learn to skate when they wasn’t using their ice rink and after learning to skate within a few days I began playing hockey with them and would get wiped all over the rink but kept at it every time I’d get crushed or fall hard. The next year I joined a team and quickly became our teams leading scorer (goals, assists, points) and was voted the best all around player because I would always be pushing to prevent odd man breaks on our goalie along with covering for the defense if they got a breakaway where I wasn’t rushing in because I needed to score. That is how I got so many assists while playing or I’d use my puck handling skills to get to the point where the other team would have 2-3 people trying to steal the puck where I could easily pass it to my open teammates where they could shoot or do a cross pass to the other open teammate to get the easy goal. I’ve used the same type of training when I served in the military also to push myself and my brothers to our maximum so that we’d be ready for whatever was thrown at us. Even in video games this has worked well over the years when our team/group would train in a game we would always try to make the odds against us in changing scenarios so that when we would be greatly outnumbered by other groups who haven’t trained as we did we would be able to handle the situations with great ease. Most people in one game would always want ti 1v1 duel so we would do that along with 2v2, 3v3, 1v2, 1v3, 1v4, 1v5, 1v everyone that we had online at the time (the goal for that was to survive and try to kill as many as possible but survive is the primary objective. One time in game I had 3 major groups trying to kill me with around 50-70 people throughout the hour plus long fight where they never got close and I was trolling them throughout the fight while killing over 15 of their combatants.). It is always good to push our limits in training within reason slowly getting more intense/difficult so that we’re constantly growing in our skills. This shouldn’t just be used with physical things but to push ourselves to expand our knowledge/intellectual capabilities so that we are working out every aspect of our bodies which eventually goes into our spiritual side. When we have a strong foundation in all 3 aspects of life there isn’t much that can rattle our world and we can see many problems before they even reveal themselves through discernment. I had always worked the physical/mental aspects heavily but noticed I was missing the proper spiritual structure in my life that helped link everything together with true meaning. I may have a vast knowledge and good physical strength/conditioning but I’m definitely not the strongest or all knowing which is why in life there is always room for our own improvements across every aspect of life. This will help us age much more gracefully than those that live sedentary lifestyles who will have likely end up getting degenerative brain diseases due to their lifestyles.

Iron sharpens Iron

Reasonable, but the Jedi are discouraged from having that competitive mindset. That would lead to people like Exar Kun. He was OBSESSED w "surpassong" his master. And the moment he felt he had, he abandoned his master, met a Sith Lord and fell to the Dark Side. The problem is fans think of the force as a "superpower" while the Jedi look at it as a spiritual connection. It's not about being stronger than the next man for them, it's just about honing and strengthening your own connection. So trying to "surpass" your master's strength is not very Jedi-like behavior

@@cloudmaster182 I agree partially with you but we shouldn’t always be worried about competing against others as we should be competing against yesterday’s version of ourselves. With working out our spiritual side, mental side, and physical side of the sentient triangle will keep us at our peak while pushing us to each of our full potential. I believe it would work with the Jedi but the key is to find the right balance to ensure we keep ourselves in an isosceles triangle with equal balanced sides of strengths. We all are running our own races of life that all have different starting points and ending points so we shouldn’t be comparing ourselves to others but by a healthy competition between others helps us push ourselves to be the best versions of ourselves as long as you have a strong perseverance.

Bingo!

Well often a whetstone or grindstone would be used for sharpening iron but I digress

Because then the timeline would destroy our universe. How can obi wan and yoda defeat the emperor when hw already won.

Hell yeah they need to do a what if episode on this

One has to remember that at this point in time the Jedi have not faced an actual Sith threat in hundreds of years. It was a shock to everyone when Darth Maul came out of seemingly nowhere to kill Qui Gonn Jinn during the battle of Naboo, and when Yoda's former apprentice Dooku was outed as one. Yoda directly confronted Dooku a handful of times during the Clone Wars and each time he had complete and total control over the situation in spite of Dooku's best efforts. You could argue that Yoda's decision to send Obi-Wan to deal with Anakin was influenced by pressures caused by Order 66, but I personally think it was the final act of fatal complacency that had already doomed the Jedi order.

@@adriantallent8557 Interesting theory, I like it. It explains too why he is so broken the in speeder with Bail afterwards.

@@aenguswright7336 Yoda had convinced himself that he could handle it himself...which is ironically the same arrogance that felled Dooku! Luke Skywalker would go on to repeat the same mistake with Ben Solo as well.

More proof for my opinion that The Jedi misinterpreted The Force as well. Fire on its own is neither good nor evil. But wether it protects a village or burns it to the ground depends on who is holding it.

​@kaimagnus5760 that's actually true. Who are you? The Sun tribe from avatar?

How and when did the dark side help him?

@@likeadog7752 I believe that every strike from Maul/Droids/General Grievous and of course Anakin would be like a piece of iron heating up and adding the chromium (survival) would turn Obi-wan into a piece of Beskar. IMO of course.

​@@kaimagnus5760well said

Learning from any source of wisdom is a sign of maturity. Doesn't mean you embrace their beliefs or reasoning. Just the lesson to be learned.

I seem to remember a quote from Yoda about him dueling that he would often pass up opportunities to win the bout in order to continue raining down on his opponent, he didn’t want to just win, he wanted to break his opponent down in a way that would stay with them…

Anakin and Vegeta had contrasting outcomes: Anakin turned to the dark side of the FORCE and became Darth Vader, while Vegeta ultimately became a hero not only because he wanted to surpass Goku it's because of Bulma, Trunks(both future and present selves) and Bulla 😉