Why WatchGang Sucks! Stewart Dawson & Co Voyager Dual Time Zone - Perth WAtch  

Glad to see chronometer spec Miyota 8215 finally showing up in some affordable watches. Hate seeing it limited to APs and Pateks.

Poor value. Low specs. Obnoxious averts. You are very kind in your review.

Thanks for the review. I always have my doubt on watch gang and your experience confirms my suspicion.

Great to hear your thoughts about this. I have not tried them but assumed that would be the outcome

Merry Christmas Perth Watch, appreciate the review ! I reckon they've cobbled that watch together from a load of other stock parts, weird that the bracelet is the best part, it's similar to the Tudor bb58 one, minus the rivets, they have ceramic bearings also, but certainly more pricey !

Happy Holidays, Ivan!

That's remarkably bad for the money - I paid about that for an NTH Amphion, which homages the Milsub much better. Great video Ivan - Happy Holidays

Great review Ivan. Slab sided and sterile caseback, exactly like a Tudor Blackbay. That bezel looked dark green sometimes, or was that my eyes playing tricks? Chronometer? I'd loved to have seen the looks in their eyes when that landed at the Contrôle Officiel Suisse des Chronomètre for certification. 😂😂

I don't think I've heard anything from anyone that have gotten involved with this apparent loss of control on getting watches you'll actually wear and be proud of the gamble that you made with your hard earned money This watch is a perfect example I don't think many people would actually buy this watch Aliexpres is about the only gamble I've been willing to take and I haven't had a single regret Especially with all the reviews on RU-vid Thanks for sharing your experience with us Greatly Appreciated my friend and Happy New Year my friend 👍

Good looking watch but not worth the money 👍 thanks Ivan for the great videos this year and happy Christmas and New Year

I see in Stewart Dawson & Co's catalogue that one of their watches, which houses an SW200/ETA2428, is called "Darkest Hour". Clearly, this name is much more appropriate for a 600$ watch that houses a Miyota 8000 movement.

I did 1 year of Watch gang when they first started and I found that the watches were not worth the value they claimed. It is truly a a bait and switch, program. If the people were to save up the money they spent on watch gang after a year they could buy a really nice proper value watch for what they spent.

Ive tried all 3 tiers of watchgang. 3 months of entry level, was not worth it. Had the platinum level for 1 year and it was ok, i kept 4 watches from that year. I gave the rest away as gifts (wouldn't recommend). Ive had the black level for about 2 years. I still pay the $115 (grandfathered in from before the price jump). I keep every other watch. Im coming up on around 30 watches from them. My favorites are selectron, pure dial, several graytons (all auto), and some other ok micro brands. Overall if you like micro brands, it might be for you. You're not going to get a great deal or value, the company is in business to make money at your expense. Some people love it, i dont. I may have it a lil longer but by end of the year itll be done.

When the Watch Gang Black was $100 USD, they sent me a Dufa Tauchen Mecha-Quartz, which is a 42mm 3-hand watch that absolutely hugs my 6.25" wrist due to the extreme downturn in the lugs. This watch is by far the most comfortable watch I've ever owned, and well worth the $100 I spent. ...also the only watch I have left in my collection after a full year of Watch Gang...

I agree with you This is not a premium watch and it is still available on their site as premium select. I have a question how did you cancel the subscription? Did they charge you anything?

Funny part is it isn't just a derivative design, but a derivative of a derivative design since it looks like it could be part of the Ginault line. I think the only way I would do watchgang is a one time wheel spin if they had a brand I was keen on. Thanks for the review and the thoughts.

Great assessment! This is a a $60 Corgeut AliX clone special with a StewDaw dial ‘n etch package .. I have vintage Stewart Dawson watches form NZ & AU of good quality… maybe someone’s bought the name…

I tested an 8215 against an NH35 using a timegrapher, and surprisingly the positional variance on the Miyota was much better, however, no hacking or hand winding. That said, agree, for a watch at that price a minimum of a Miyota 9000 would be expected. Ultimately, it's just another Subby homage, and there are better for less than half that price

How do you get chronometer performance from that movement?........

Not a good impression at all my friend....where as I don't actually have an issue with the 8215, like you I agree it must be in an appropriately priced watch....even Ali express brands have moved on in general from it....gutted for you, straight flip here I'd have thought.... Seasonal greetings and best wishes to you, your family and everyone on our watch community....🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿⌚🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿⌚

What is this? A homage to Ginault Ocean Rover? Same hands, indices and even red second hand & First red colored line…etc Also, with that $700 price tag, I can not believe that they are using miyota 8 series instead of 9 series. Tisell which costs $250 even uses 9 series Miyota. Honestly when I look the dial, it reminded me of Ginault. When I look at the bracelet fit & finish, it really reminded me of Corgeut. I remember that I had bought a Corgeut (Tudor homage) and it had exact same bracelet & very similar clasp. And that was less than $100. Another thing, personally, I think the name on the dial is just too long. It really screws up the look (symmetry) of the dial. There is just so much wrong about the watch and I have absolutely no idea where they came out with $700 price tag. It is a shame to bring that kind of watch with that price. Nonetheless, thank you for your honest review, Ivan. Merry Christmas!

Not just watch gang, but, I feel most subscription services that send you fairly random items.. sometimes (very few apart) cool, often mostly forgettable items to be a complete waste of your time and especially your money. I'd rather look for specific items that I really want than what ends up to be a drawer, table top, closet, whatever full of dismissive crap. I don't like the idea to pay for someone else to shop for me and come back with lame items. I don't see the appeal, excitement and personal gratification of taking yourself out of the shopping equation, other than to put out the cash for it, and let someone else do the leg work... And probably a lazy half-assed effort at that. Back to watches specifically, this should be a hobby to put your own personal spin and carve your own path and journey. Do the homework and live and learn your own way. And don't believe you're going to be one of those rare statistics that will actually get a luxury watch as the motivation to dive in and continue such subscription service nonsense. Going on your own, you may make some mistakes along the way.. but, that's how you learn and discover what your true tastes are and shape the collection organically by your own choices, for better or worst. I feel sorry you had to endure this so that others may not have to. Thanks for your service.

The bracelet looks to be an exact copy of my tudor black bay bracelet.

Reminds me of a yet another Chinese homage. Wonder if it comes from a similar manufacture. Thanks for the video

That watch would go for just a little over $100 bucks on AliExpress...

I did black tier a few times and can’t sell them or trade them to save my life

I appreciate that the model number is ASS 01. You’d have to be a number one ass to spend that much money on a Miyota 8000 series watch.

I just got it 😩. What a great platinum member watch....

Yikes, a big nope on this one. The tight bezel might have been their solution to back play, I can forgive the plain case back, but my God, that 8215 movement in a supposedly $600 watch? and the pathetic finishing? Inexcusable at that price.

Ugh! This watch isn't worth $600! Appalling movement. The case finishing is pretty bad - it looks like something on a plated brass case. The knurling on the bezel looks pretty bad too. For 1/3 that price, you could get a San Martin with a better movement, a better finished case and a sapphire crystal and ceramic bezel.

Sounds like some invicta retail pricing- you can put any retail price on everything and anything. Retail pricing can be a bit of a joke. Just gotta laugh.

For 320 US one could just buy a decent Glycine, Hammy, or Seiko. Would be disappointed as a WG subscription offering.

Looks like it's made of 'off the shelf' Chinese factory parts thrown together. The bracelet doesn't match the watch head and looks like it doesn't fit the case. perfectly. I think the price tag they show on the Stuart Dawson site is a marketing strategy, knowing that they are going to shift most of these through 3rd party bargain companies and the price on their site validates that it is a bargain. Incidentally companies/people are selling them through eBay new for $200-$300.

Yup, I just got a green faced voyager as my first watch from WG. Very disappointed. I'm lucky that I only spent $200 for the platinum tier. It was either a sale or my first-time member discount. This is absolutely disgusting. This watch is actually less than $300. Boo Wg, booo! Off to cancel my subscription.

What's a watch gang? Never heard of them.

WtF??? This is 80$ Aliexpress watch. It's a Blackbay Heritage Homage rebranding. Definitely a scam. Good video. Cheers

In other news, the sky is blue and water is wet.

Man did i LOL when you mentioned the price then the movement ... who on earth actually bothers with this 'ere "watchgang" ? ..nice dial etc but what a joke. Hope it doesn't spoil your christmas

A 50 dollar ali piece would eat its lunch

I should have watched this video before purchasing. The company blows.

If you have an 8200 series in a watch over $200 you’ve been hosed in my humble opinion

A bit of a large clunker. Plain case back very disappointing. Great review, if overly generous.

just got one of these and immediately canceled my subscription. Knew this watch was bullshit!

I stopped subscribing to watchgang after they sent me a box that contained nothing but a persons' hair.

Looks like a copy of Tudor black bay 41mm. Case, case back, bracelet, clasp are the copied.

If this was a Chinese watch (officially) it would be $150.

Just to expensive.

Who wants a random watch every month? According to the website it has either a 2824 or sw200 inside so could be a chronometer but doesn't look like 28,800bph. Looks more like an cheap chinese job.

with a different band, that a $60 aliexpress watch all day, best thing about it is the band, maybe a $45 band. i did watchgang for 3 months and they are a ripoff, search solar time limited and you'll see where all their watches come from. their not real mico brands, most of them anyway I never got anything worth the subscription price, got 2 black tier and 1 platinum tier and i bailed. they prey on new watch collecters, and a 8215 in what they claim is a $650 watch, thats a crime in itself. i was mad i got a nh35 it what they claimed was a $1200 watch at platinum tier..

Dreadful value

Crap

$250 usd..