Why We’re Giving up on the Film Industry 

I see you like corridor as well

yikes

The problem is the that most of their stuff lacks substance, plot, storylines. It seems they only focus on flashy visual effects and end up with forgettable content.

@@JCMaldonado13 I disagree. Of course, for 4 million subs they are making easy content. blablabal reacts to.... But to they are doing it in a unique, recognizable fashion. I believe they have enough interestes followers to support their goals beyond that.

Lennart Herrmann yes I agree with all of that, their content works great for RU-vid. But I’m not sure it will work for a subscription service.

They should make an "Uncle Sam" poster, with Sam's face replacing it with the caption: "Let me tell YOU about Squarespace!"

5:02*

In actuality "We Created a Patreon"

Or WIX

Car salesman tactic

I've been working in Hollywood for 20 years. Everything they said is 100%. My only gripe with them is Y'ALL JUST NOW REALIZING THIS?!!!

@@rayzrsharp we don’t work in hollywood buddy....

@@ohio The big picture is charts and graphs that say what people like. If you think that doesn't get in the way of art, then I think you're probably just a business major.

​@@ohio Prioritizing money over artistic and personal values is not the flex you think it is. It's just greed. I'd say this conversation's done, but I'm sure you won't feel satisfied unless you get the last word, so go ahead. Just know I won't be listening.

Lucas had a subscription platform on youtube?

@@purefoldnz3070 he legit made both his own studio and sfx company. Lucasfilm and Industrial Light and Magic(later Pixar was created by Ilm) so he had very few strings attached to the industry.

@@javierpowell4705 He still made movies in the studio system to become independent. You cant just skip a step.

@@purefoldnz3070 Yeah but, he was independent by vision and funding, all he really needed was distributors, studios trusted he was a good movie creator, and lessened their corporate oversight into anything they were collaborating on. Arguably not truly independent, but still highly seperated from the corporate culture and free do as he pleased.

@@javierpowell4705 now Disney bought the company. Shame.

They are not in the film industry, they are an independent agency that subcontracts for the film industry.

Join them

@@UnsaltedCashew38 no, they're just in a different part of the industry

@@Daemonworks Yeah, the part that has no actual involvement in making Hollywood movies. They're RU-vidrs. And now, even with 4 million subscribers, they're moaning because they don't have thousands of dollars of disposable income. Poor chaps. 😭

@@nagualdesign Facts, they're basically living the dream. Each one of them is a millionaire.

Tough is writing a script. Ruthless is the industry itself. I’ve had an awful experience as an extremely small filmmaker, the fact that people like Corridor have had just as much trouble is telling how ruthless it is.

Honestly the industry is tough but do you want to work in it anymore. Hollywood does not know how to make good films anymore. Everything good now is happening outside the US. Its so disappointing. There is only a hand full of director’s out there that make good original films. Everything else is just copy paste its so easy to predict every ending without watching the trailers. Case and point making another Halloween movie. For fuck sake the first one was a good movie everything else is shit just let him fucking die already, the new star wars movies after all the waiting and anticipation they Disneyfied it and made them shit.

This is just 2% of what producers do to a movie...

@@filipmanevski9872 Totally agree with you i can keep going on and on about today's movies too

IBlameNargles sounds like something to avoid for everyone other than those making massive $100,000,000+ films.

That sounds terrifying. I think one of the few ways to put your idea out into the world while still preserving the vision would be through novels or comics. Alhough, who knows, maybe even those indusries are similar?

And this is why most if not all movies made today completely suck. Let the creators create their vision.

@@enforcerridley158 A lot of movies in the past also sucked, we have just already forgotten about them because we wanted to, and never reveal their existence to new generations born at least one decade after they came out. But yes, the creators should be allowed to create their own vision because - would having more variety in mainstream films really be the end of Hollywood? I doubt it, because sometimes movies that people think will not make lots of money, actually do. That sort of turnout is not exclusive to original film properties, either. Because in 2023 alone, I saw how Ruby Gillman, Teenage Kraken and The Creator were original film properties with loads of potential that did not make bank, while Guardians of the Galaxy 3 and Wonka were a sequel and a prequel to established film properties that were surprisingly creative, and became very successful despite having a less than stellar opening weekend. I could tell that for once, Disney and WB let James Gunn and Paul King create their vision for those films and it probably paid off for them in spite of most of their other 2023 movies bombing.

And more content! There’s gonna be more traction if more people are promoting it and there’s more things on the site. They could possibly turn this into something really good but it’s gonna def need work

UPDOOT THIS

Yeah I think this is a missed opportunity to not allow other creators to submit on the platform.

Maybe it's a pilot. Also the subscription would have to be way pricier if you could "fund" multiple creators.

Brilliant. Evil S.O.B.

Lmoa ahh yes my favorite Greek philosopher, _someone_

no its not

“Ok, this is the greatest Monster movie that’s ever been presented to us, it’s incredible, we love it..........how do you feel about no monster & complete re-write?”

@@MichaelMusson-en7be King Kong 2005

And does it have to be a movie? How bout a webseries on a platform no one knows exists?

that's just like ever other industry

The best way to do something you want, is to build it yourself from the ground up.

That’s how everything works in this world doesn’t it

Except for Tommy Wiseau.

@@miksuko Is "every other industry" as in your face, as alluring, as attractive, as fame-&-money as is the film industry?

Ayyy I used to try out igg for btd battles lmaoo

Yeah, but only $5 million

@@valentemartinez8935 with this Kickstarter like project, how many people need to subscribe and designate a preferred project to get more than 5 mil tho?

@@psd993 It's 125031 yearly subscriptions to get to 5 millions. Not impossible but hard to reach. I hope they can make it work though. It's important to have independent creators.

@@psd993 5 mil on an industry shoot means a lot goes to pleasing union requirements. They can run leaner on RU-vid

Why are you all the way down the comments ?

I agree! This is so cool!

"Making virtual donuts you can't eat".

The father of blender

Mo cuishle

Hmm I wonder why anyone would hate such a noble act

@@irai_nesanOfThamizhOrigin sarcasm 100

There are downsides to it, though. It's a lot easier to get into creating and publishing art nowadays thanks to how the internet has democratized content creation and distribution. But it's also much harder to stand out in that space. There is such a flood of content available to users that it's almost impossible to develop a following and get noticed unless you already have a brand. Filmmaker Lulu Wang talked about that in a roundtable discussion with five other directors hosted by the Hollywood Reporter. Her film, The Farewell, had received an offer to be distributed on a streaming service, an offer she turned down. She knew that as a young director who was just starting her career, her film would get completely swamped out and barely seen by anybody. When talking about the experience, she drew a comparison to iTunes, saying that anybody can post music to iTunes but if you don't have a brand, no one will notice you. The other problem is that the internet has also created market pressure to offer some content as cheaply as possible thanks to the proliferation of free websites like Spotify and RU-vid as well as the ease of piracy. This is especially true in the music industry. Talk to any musician and they'll tell you that it's actually harder to earn a living making music today than it was 20-30 years ago. Compared to the incomes artists could make from album sales back in the day, the payouts musicians make from streaming services is pennies.

Christopher G I see nothing negative about what you just said. Music is now in the hands of the consumer, not the hands of the creator. Which means we as consumers vote with our wallet. It also means that we won’t settle for low rate drivel. If content creators want more money, they will have to produce more quality content. Standing out in a crowd is THEIR problem, not ours.

@@mosesking2923 Except consumers are left with fewer and fewer options as musicians increasingly drop out of what is no longer a very promising profession. That leaves only musicians who are willing to create generic pop songs that appeal to as wide a net as possible.

Christopher G it’s the exact opposite. There are more options than ever before. Musicians can find niches in the market that they never even knew existed. If some artists make generic content, then that is their choice to pander to the masses. It’s always been that way. But the small niches will now be catered to. That’s the beauty of capitalism. Same thing is happening to online gaming and film.

I think it will be somewhat like patreon, you will be able to see the show episodes early if you want by giving money to that specific show; it would really suck if all their videos would be behind a paywall, I dont think everyone who watches the videos has spare cash to spend for those videos

From what I understand, you're using money to vote for the shows you want to see. That money goes into funding for the show

From my understanding, it works like this: You sub for whatever a month. You choose something that they are pitching on that site that you wanna see made. - In turn, they get funding and get to keep their idea the way they want. Whatever gets funded to a full extent gets made and released on youtube (Probably with Subs/Patreon getting early access to that content) they're basically avoiding the major industry "Best and safe practices" so they can still make big-budget films without their vision shattered.

What he means is he is going to continue making things that you can pay for that you want but what majority wants will be on RU-vid

That wasn't what they meant, maybe you didn't watch the video carefully. The people who subscribe will be able to decide which shows the corridor crew should work on. They'll have a say in it, and they will be the ones financing it. At the end, everyone can watch that content (There's obviously gonna be some privileges for the ones paying like earky access to content or stuff but im okay with that)

JohnGaal excellent question. I’m ok to support these guys but I don’t want to pay for two 5 minutevideos a month that are worth watching

I think the logical thing would be something like Kickstarter where only once an episode is funded past some threshold it starts being worked on.

sounds like they're gearin up to expand which, I mean, makes sense since they're literally taking over more of the building they work out of

Their typical work flow revolves around doing multiple projects at one time. That's why they have multiple people on the team who can fit multiple roles (camera, director, writer, etc.). They already can divide and conquer, and from the sounds of it, they plan on being as flexible as they've already been with their RU-vid projects. I think this is a great opportunity for them, and they're probably set up the best to accomplish this.

ALSO, it very much sounds like the point of the website is to fund additional content that will then show up on RU-vid, rather than be exclusive to their website

Absolutely. Hard agree this is the big one.

I think this would open up new possibilities for tons of creative people that just can't have their voices heard in this industry.

If that’s the case, this site could grow like crazy and be a big new thing. I hope that’s what happens.

I think if they eventually let other creators create for this new platform it would really bring it to the next level, truly competing with the traditional Hollywood system.

TheMajorNerd this would be the best possible thing to do with the site, imo

HAHAHHAAHAHHAA

Do you blame him? Lol.

@Ba Paoi are you parents siblings?

Y'all talking about the 🎂

@@boldtrickstudios Yes. Cake. >_>

Yeah, this is like College Humor's Dropout and they have quite a number of series that were on it.

Like what Acura Addicted said, FloatPlane is the thing they are looking for.

I feel like this type of site would have potential to be added to the CuriousityStream group once it gains a following. It would be cool to see Corridor join up and form part of the group, you could eventually build something to rival RU-vid.

Can't say I blame him lol

dudeman33 😂😂😂 neither do I

Kinda like patreon ?

if I could subscribe to the website/ through/ patreon, I'd be more into it. Or if the site had content from more creators than just corridor, and they made a whole new kinda content ecosystem

@@treschlet The whole industry might evolve to that.

@@treschlet You can subscribe to the website through Patreon at the $5 tier or above.

I feel like they’ll need to bring in more people, or other channels to make enough content to support that price. Feel a little nervous for them.

now give us money lol

Purefoldnz Wait till you find out how film makers make money

LOL I have been thinking about taking a look at Dropout, but then I think of all the other things I already have via Netflix, Viaplay etc. that I still haven't watched and just give up

@@flemmingpedersen567 Dropout is worth it for the Dimension 20 stuff, but that's truly unique content that's worth it for me. I don't know if Corridor is gonna have content that is truly worth it for me. Especially when I watch the reaction vids which definitely aren't worth a subscription fee to me.

College Humor: Decides to put all their eggs in the Facebook basket and died because of it. Their monthly subscription was doing fine but their major investment into facebook cause them to lose a LOT.

Let me take you to SwearNet and a little Canadian show called the Trailer Park Boys. This was launched back in early 2013. They were the first that I know of to do something like this.

@@HotRetroFire I hear ya - all the things I have seen from CC is "RU-vid good", but I still haven't watched anything that I want to pay for. But then, apart from 'Ashens and the Quest for the Gamechild' I have not seen a larger production from a RU-vidr that I liked enough to see it twice. You are right that Dimension 20 is interesting, but Brennan just rubs me the wrong way somehow - I don't know why, I just dislike him on the screen. I do kind of want to see all of 'Kingpin Katie' though.

It is a business as any other and the purpose of the business is to eliminate the financial risk and ensure the gain :) If you had 2 millions of dollars and wanted to spend them you would make hella sure that it all least break even... Sad but true and if you are an artist the sooner you understand it the better. Look at Chris Nolan or Soderbergh...you can make a popcorn movie to be an artistic experience at the same time. It is fokin difficult but anything is possible.

Fuck the domestic market, we do a production for the international market. And with that, i mean China. So, you make a horror movie, but you can't do ghosts and some other supernatural stuff, because the CCP don't like that. Also that guy that you want as the main character? Can't have him because he wrote some Pro HK tweet, can't have that now. Oh and we need some more product placement, like all of it. Chinese love american products.

@@ThePandoraGuy and since we still film it in US, don't forget your cast should meet diversity quotas, regardless of historical or geographical setting.

PRODUCER: But it won’t be just a *horror* movie, but it’ll be a *conventional* horror movie. 🤔

@@naverich4603 that is what I find most disappointing. While I understand the need to manage risk for a successful business model, it seems too rare that any risks are taken. The result is absolute butchery. Reference to "The Dark Tower" and "Doom." great stories but after they went through the system were major disappointments. I still can't believe someone thought resident eviling literal hellspawn was a good idea.

change yes, but its a subscription service which we honestly seen them come and go by the dozen, hell the website they mentioned called go90 was freaking free and it failed bad.

Not what gaslighting is, that would be a bait-and-switch but good point.

@@garfellow5038 I swear "gaslighting" has changed it's meaning over the past few years

@@ashtalkes6745 yet they still dont comply

RU-vid is a joke this website can be deleted in a flip of a switch it’s not profitable.

@@ashtalkes6745 I see you get your tech news from the right place...

@@sruxro Yup, it was confirmed that 8 is the new 10 minutes. And quality of videos will be put ahead (prioritised over) length of them

Since when was there a minimum length requirement?

Its Nikos positive vibes, they're infectious

Turtle really? That is so harsh, I imagine that they have a reputation in the film industry for being backstabbed all the time.

Welcome to the corporate world. Remember that executives and accountants very rarely, if ever, have hands on experience with regards to the process for people who actually have to execute the plan as well as the finer details. They do not understand that doing those things is easier said than done and much harder and slower than they would like. As shitty as it is, this is pretty much why there is always this "conflict" between execs/accountants in upper level management who don't actually understand the process and the filmmakers/writes/etc that do. Isn't just limited to film either, this happens across most other sectors as well.

Yeah... Is this really U.S cooperation culture?... where rather to help nurturing small company that can be benefit to everyone, they will suck them dry and leaving nothing but dust...

Because when they come threw and the projects done they probably feel great

Damn man that's really cool of you, I wish they could see this🔥🔥

Tip of the iceberg there... Make it relevant to now Make it franchise friendly Make it competitive with established IP's, Make it with bankable actors Make it PG-13 at max Make it child friendly Make it non-preachy, but with a message kids can learn Make it apolitical Make it have at least one primary LGBT character Make it so no attention is drawn to said characters sexuality Make it have at least one primary well known and obviously non-white character Make it so no attention is drawn to said characters race Make it appropriate for the Christian Right Make it with easily sourced, non licensed music Make it with groundbreaking VFX Make it appropriate for Chinese distribution Make it cheap

@@captainfunktastic2255 This is why we see nothing but remakes, re-imaginings, spin-offs and general bland PC garbage made - adding the hope it'll be popular in Communist China

@@FilmFire96 ramakes are a staple of film since the 1930s. There are shitloads of superior remakes. Maybe study film before pretending to know what you're talking about, kid.

@@FilmFire96 They're investors. They only care about going the safe route for a maximum return for their money. They don't care about making an actually good or meaningful movie.

@@Axolotl_Mischief That's completely true but that doesn't change the fact that there has been a high concentration of remakes and unwanted sequels over the past decade that have not done very well because of being driven by strict limitations of the industry and pursuit of money instead of a drive from passion and creativity about the project. It makes sense that if a product reaches the largest amount of people that should make the most money, but that is a very short term perspective for a franchise and doesn't allow for full creative expression of a vision. Just because there are good remakes doesn't change the fact that there are still significant players who are making movies for the wrong reasons, and when the whole point of a movie is to entertain, and the intent of the movie shifts from being entertaining to appeasing the masses, that's a problem.

Wix

actually yes, it is

nah corridor can do it, they're not like other RU-vid channels imo

@Joey, my thoughts exactly; Hope it works; Suspect it wont.

LouderWithCrowder has successfully done it for years now. He calls it MugClub

@@rorymcgregor625 The main difference with Crowder's Mug Club is that you also get access to BlazeTV's entire library - which means being able to watch more than just Crowder. I think if Corridor would do the same and team up with a few other similar creators in a bundled subscription deal, that would increase their chances of subscriptions like Crowder.

RoosterTeeth has done pretty well with their off youtube subscription stuff (albeit with some kerfuffles & hurdles). I wish them the best but I probably won't be subscribing to pay for particular shows. Maybe an existing service like FloatPlane would have been a good fit & they wouldn't have needed to build any technology for that to work. All that said, if they were to crowdfund a feature length project or make one & it was available for stand-alone purchase I'd be down for that. Either way I wish them success. I think they have the right idea in going around the system & playing by their own rules rather then trying to get into it & making less engaging content.

You're the best, man.

Fourth

What is your comment supposed to mean

Your assuming I have streaming services.

streaming is the new cable tv with attached packages and subscription fees all included baby!

Kind of nice having more direct choice in who my money is going to though tbh.

@@skywrecker the big difference being with cable tv if you just want a specific channel, you have to pay for 200 other channels you don't want just to get access to the one you do. With subscriptions you can choose on a month to month basis which content you want to put your money towards.

It’s content created direct to consumer. It’s really going to be about quality of the product (which we know CC can do) and the price point (and how it will fluctuate over time). I like to support content creators and would much rather spend 30-40 bucks a year per creator in that community than hand it off to the CEO of a conglomerate that can offer a slightly lower price. It’s like eating locally-produced food: it may cost more but there’s a big upside to supporting your community. The concern, as ever, is what happens when it is successful? Do they go pyramid or wide?

Prob less pedophiles and rapists in porn then Hollywood 🤣

@@jimmy12347654 I know what you're trying to say but there are definitely way more in the porn industry. The consenting professionals you see are but the tip of the ice berg and sadly there is a HUGE amount of sex trafficking (including kids) supported (knowingly and unknowingly) by the porn industry. There are also a lot of rape videos out there too.

Hellya you got me lol

@@kingkea3451 Yeah you are right of course, just a dark joke at Hollywood's expense

I'd watch the hell out of Corridor-produced porn. It'd probably be crap-ton better than current industry-produced porn.

Yes, imo they should've ditch patreon in favor of their own website soon, adjust the pricing as well. As for your 2nd question, it allows them to raise money to get the budget for that film they already made the script of. If this new subscription failed, they just simply won't make feature film and just create short vfx yt videos as usual.

Yeah exactly. What is the real difference to a Kickstarter financed movie, except that the viewers can vote on it?

they could make it so people on patreon get portion , up to full sub perks for the website, maybe, idk

I had the same exact question about Patreon. I've been hoping to support them one day when I'm in a better financial situation, and if it's a choice between Patreon and this, I'm not sure which I would choose.

@@1ZZYNX1 patrons have free access to the web site (from the 5 dollar tier up)

CGI artists have always gotten the shaft in hollywood and personally hollywood might be going broke soon so i'd distance myself too if I were them.

Not the point. They didn't enjoy it.

I don’t think that really matters. As someone who is aspiring a career in film and music, I’ve made a few things people thoroughly enjoy and I did not enjoy making it or enjoy the project itself. It’s really about what you want to make.

Problem is nobody saw it and being strung along the whole process

Hey thanks! It means a lot to me that you enjoyed them! -Niko

@@CorridorCrew I'm currently trying to perfect my blender skills for images and animations (but limited to low spec laptops as I'm in school) and some unity. But it is inspiring seeing your shows and movies. It's not just enjoyment but also admiration of the amount of work and skill that you guys use. Thank you guys for everything, the fun moments and all the great content.

best director winner Bong Joon Ho begs to differ

That's what she said

Tell that to Guillermo Del Toro.

@Stellvia Hoenheim a lot of people will, and a lot of people do. There are dozens of creators on Twitch who make tens of millions a year off of good-will donations while they stream videos games. Corridor are onto something here, and I'm stoked to see where it goes :)

Thanks! Having a direct relationship with you guys, without a big corporate middleman, will be huge. I can’t wait to see what kind of new shows it will enable us to make for you!

@@CorridorCrew i dont think you should've dedicated an entire video to your website, im broke and it feels like im gonna miss out on all of the amazing content you put on youtube. I hope you guys upload your projects on youtube after a while

@@ashmitbajpai390 Considering that their RU-vid channel probably earns them more than most of their viewers earn the whole thing seems a bit ungrateful and self-absorbed. They get to do pretty much what they want, and what they love to do, RU-vid provides them with a far-reaching platform and they still find ways to feel hard done by. Meanwhile 1 billion people don't get to eat every day. If I could afford to I know who I'd rather donate a few dollars to. Basically, they're not professional script writers but they're hoping to get a script turned into a movie, and hopefully that will serve as a springboard towards mega success. And they're annoyed because it ain't happening! 😆

I think you hit the nail on the head. While it might sound like a good idea on paper, at the end of the day the whole monthly subscription for video content market is extremely saturated at this point. As much as I love these guys and their content really the last thing I care for is adding onto how much money I spend every month for video content. Not to mention asking people to change platforms to see content doesn't usually go very well. It creates this big rift between the small amount of hardcore fans who will support anything and everything versus the massive majority that aren't all gung ho about throwing their money at something.

I agree 100%. It's segregating the market too much. Why pay $3.99 per month for only their content when $10-15 with Netflix, Prime Video, Hulu, or anyone else gives you a TON of diverse content? It just doesn't make any sense.

I think the best way to think about this is like a Patreon for a youtuber that does reaction videos. The use Patreon as a source of additional income to allow them to commit more to the channel and those who pay money are going to be the people who are big fans of the channel already and now have a way to interact and influence in a meaningful way with a channel they really enjoy.

I totally agree

@@bestieswithtesties You also hit the nail :D The problem i see is that these guys are on RU-vid. They are not the only ones doing this kind of Content. The only thing that makes this Channel worth watching is the Crew itself. The actuall information in the Videos is worthless many times. But cool people are everywhere on RU-vid. And i would bet major money some Channels are already working on a replacement for the Content Corridor cant make after this. What i see happening is that this Channel sort of dies because the viewers go to differen Channels and the crew being left with a small community that progressfly get smaller and a dead Channel. As you said, most people already pay for 3 On Demand Sites, and are not willing to pay for yet another one. I mean, Disney + for example at least had the argument that Disney makes 50% of all Movies, so you actually get something for your Money. Same with Netflix. But i dont think many people will see the Corridor content worht the payment considering all of the above.

P.S. it was dubstep guns that made me subscribe and its still a favorite of mine

Hey, thanks for your support over all these years. Our RU-vid videos aren’t going anywhere. We’ll still be making the same videos we always do on our channels, and the website will be a way for us to explore making additional new content directly with all of you. But we still love the RU-vid side of Corridor and always will! Thanks for watching. -Niko

@@CorridorCrew Well that's great to hear and as I said in my first comment I do wish y'all luck with anything that y'all do. I also just want to truly say thank you for the countless hours I have spent watching and enjoying the content y'all create for viewers like me.

@@CorridorCrew can you explain the real rift of NODE. Your video response that has D from months before I think left a lot of people dissatisfied.

@@Cthulhu013 I dont pay for it but i have access to an amazon prime account, but i hardly use it. I just enjoy watching content on here far more than any tv show or movie, hell the only thing ive followed as long as i have channels on here has been the mcu. Also i do use the youtube music app and primum gives me the ability to turn off my screen while the audio still plays.

As a film graduate being inspired by Corridor Digital.....I'm pretty bummed that even these guys cant get taken seriously....Id kill to have a channel like there's...Something is really wrong with the industry my friend.

I Love You considering their track record and how they keep getting shafted when it comes to film opportunities I’d say they deserve it tbh

@I Love You I did get rather turned off when they mentioned ANOTHER subscription service. All while 40% of businesses shut down during a lock down, while we reach 52 days of none stop rioting in some citys.

@@floodrunner_2042 They don't keep "getting shafted", they're consistently turned down because nobody wants to buy what they're selling. Big difference. And being turned down doesn't mean they deserve to receive funding from elsewhere.

@@jamesesparza6893 Well said. They don't seem to realize how lucky they are!

@Ba Paoi Stop this dude

@@HalValla01 ?

@@arundas8870 It was some guy spreading a sketchy link. Looks like it's all gone now

@@HalValla01 oh

Hey man, if anyone deserves it, it's them.