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Why We Don't Need Religion to Make a Righteous Society | Phil Zuckerman 

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Комментарии : 149   
@bruth6138
@bruth6138 2 месяца назад
This just in… A wizard did not create the universe and people don’t come back to life.
@josephbelisle5792
@josephbelisle5792 2 месяца назад
Wait what!?! Are you saying there is no evidence for the supernatural and some people want all people to follow their rules even though they have no basis in facts, evidence and reality? Makes sense.
@encarnacionvillazana3270
@encarnacionvillazana3270 2 месяца назад
🎵It's all about psychology baby🎶
@encarnacionvillazana3270
@encarnacionvillazana3270 2 месяца назад
FYI Religion, just as bridges, highways, the internet, are all Man-Made! As for creativity, almost any living thing can create things, but with all the instruments we use to improve life, we are long ways from any "world peace ".. 💀☠️
@rajeev_kumar
@rajeev_kumar 2 месяца назад
Religion should be abolished.
@Robert-xs2mv
@Robert-xs2mv 2 месяца назад
And Santa Claus, the tooth fairy etc etc.
@YuMz69
@YuMz69 2 месяца назад
@@Robert-xs2mv they are fine since belief in santa and tooth fairy dont cause wars neither teach to hate those who dont know santa or tooth fairy
@mavrosyvannah
@mavrosyvannah 2 месяца назад
​@YuMz69 all humans that accept beliefs without decent evidence end up with a delusional mind,, etc, war.
@YuMz69
@YuMz69 2 месяца назад
@@mavrosyvannah flat earth is the consequence of such delusions
@user-nz8uy1zm3z
@user-nz8uy1zm3z 2 месяца назад
atheism should be abolished
@DexterBodden-up9xe
@DexterBodden-up9xe 2 месяца назад
Thank you Mr. Zuckerman, what people call faith is religious fear of make believe.
@shawnsimmons1308
@shawnsimmons1308 2 месяца назад
If someone says that their religion forbids them from eating ice cream so they can’t eat ice cream, perfectly acceptable. But if someone says that their religion forbids them from eating ice cream so therefore I am not allowed to eat ice cream, absolutely unacceptable and will be met with my ridicule and public mockery.
@user-nz8uy1zm3z
@user-nz8uy1zm3z 2 месяца назад
and so you and your other ignorant atheist friends will become fat
@nathaniellopez6438
@nathaniellopez6438 2 месяца назад
Christianity is just not credible. The stories are full of controversy. If you see the Bible as a fictional book, you get stories, but if you try making them real, they fall apart. Jesus is nothing more than an ancient superhero much like Hercules, Perseus, and Thor.
@josephbelisle5792
@josephbelisle5792 2 месяца назад
The bible has no more validity than any other religious mythology. Genesis makes no sense. No evidence of jews being mass enslaved in Egypt and wandering the desert for 40 years. No global flood. The earth is 4,5 B yo. In any sense that anyone take it as evidence of anything except the mental instability of the Jewish people is ludicrous. Just look at Isreal today. Commiting genocide to get the land they think their fictitious god gave them. It's ancient insanity.
@alessioandreoli2145
@alessioandreoli2145 2 месяца назад
No religion is.
@user-nz8uy1zm3z
@user-nz8uy1zm3z 2 месяца назад
how do they fall apart? There were Roman and Jewish historians who wrote about Jesus
@dewardroy6531
@dewardroy6531 2 месяца назад
Not one contemporary mention of any miracle man named Jesus.
@user-nz8uy1zm3z
@user-nz8uy1zm3z 2 месяца назад
@@dewardroy6531 Paul's writings were written between 20-30 years after christ's death. And have you ever heard of a man named Bart Ehrman? He's an atheist historian who writes books on the historic reliability of the person of Jesus Christ. You can also look into Dr. Gary Habermas if you care to change your mind.
@LeoLynch-yg7vo
@LeoLynch-yg7vo 2 месяца назад
I always resented the idea of being born with inherited sin. I'm supposed to feel guilty just for being born? Life is hard enough already without taking on that pointless burden.
@johnhough7738
@johnhough7738 2 месяца назад
But for the church ... it's a great GOTCHA~!
@tuskact4overheaven873
@tuskact4overheaven873 2 месяца назад
And the original sin was freedom, think about it
@johnhough7738
@johnhough7738 2 месяца назад
@@tuskact4overheaven873 I was told that Adam invented something and tried it out on his companion, got hooked ... and all went on from there.
@user-nz8uy1zm3z
@user-nz8uy1zm3z 2 месяца назад
@@tuskact4overheaven873 it was not freedom, it was disobedience against God
@user-nz8uy1zm3z
@user-nz8uy1zm3z 2 месяца назад
that is not what original-sin means. We were born with the proclivity to do evil, its in our spiritual dna. You're only meant to feel guilty for the sin which you are accountable for, that is what God judges us for
@zach2980
@zach2980 2 месяца назад
Phil was great in this. But I’m afraid his points weren’t landing in the mind of Lewis.
@darthvirgin7157
@darthvirgin7157 2 месяца назад
the religious tend to be weak-minded.
@KasparHauser6
@KasparHauser6 2 месяца назад
GREAT JOB!
@Ghalaghor_McAllistor
@Ghalaghor_McAllistor 2 месяца назад
Either teach children about all religions around the world, including all of their creation stories, or don't teach about religion in school at all.
@Istandby666
@Istandby666 2 месяца назад
Don't forget to teach the religions that are no longer around and why they're no longer around.
@johnhough7738
@johnhough7738 2 месяца назад
Option A would take longer than to replicate the ark. Option B would be impossible; anybody tell me why?
@espenstoro
@espenstoro 2 месяца назад
You can teach them ABOUT religions in history class, because it's relevant to how the world has worked at some point. That's about it.
@user-nz8uy1zm3z
@user-nz8uy1zm3z 2 месяца назад
how about parents being allowed to teach their children what they want?
@Ghalaghor_McAllistor
@Ghalaghor_McAllistor 2 месяца назад
@@user-nz8uy1zm3z Like homeschooling? Do you know how many flat earthers and anti-vaxxers there are who would be happy to homeschool their children?
@Seticzech
@Seticzech 2 месяца назад
Prof. Zuckerman is great. Even if I disagree with about about schools. Public schools should be mandatory. If anyone wanna learn weir fairy tales, then after regular classroms.
@hextech3161
@hextech3161 2 месяца назад
This Lewis guy just sat there and waited for you to finish, didn’t actually listen to a word.
@MrCanis4
@MrCanis4 2 месяца назад
I think he was reading something. The Bible perhaps. 😂😂😂
@toni4729
@toni4729 2 месяца назад
Go Phil love ya.
@MikeyJay00
@MikeyJay00 2 месяца назад
Thank you, Mr. Zuckerman, for an excellent articulation of value of the secular world view.
@lynnrumsey3296
@lynnrumsey3296 2 месяца назад
Mr. Zuckerman, what you are saying makes a lot of sense. I just wish you would not maniacally rant. It would be much better to calmly say it and pause occasionally. Please, your message is so important.
@okiepita50t-town28
@okiepita50t-town28 2 месяца назад
I agree with everything you just said and would like to add one more thing: religion is completely nonsensical. Please people start using your brains.
@encarnacionvillazana3270
@encarnacionvillazana3270 2 месяца назад
Agreed. I can't help but wonder, laugh, or just plain become concerned when someone says " I died, then came back".. No! False!! Once post-mortem happens, there is NO turning back! Not even Hay-Zues or Mohammmed could pull it off!! 👍👍
@encarnacionvillazana3270
@encarnacionvillazana3270 2 месяца назад
According to logic and reason, All man made things fail, corrupt and die. Everything alive dies, and My "trinity " that i believe with all My little heart, are the "Known-Known, Known-Unknown, and Unknown Unknowns"!! 👍👍
@ikenosis8160
@ikenosis8160 2 месяца назад
Drops mic.
@manuelbaez7148
@manuelbaez7148 2 месяца назад
thank you professor!!
@BlackAtheistRants
@BlackAtheistRants 2 месяца назад
I agreed with this video 100%
@kookamunga2458
@kookamunga2458 2 месяца назад
The purity-ring thing is what got me frustrated. I mean who wants to hang around or be seen with someone wearing a dumb thing like a purity ring ?
@oscarmudd6579
@oscarmudd6579 2 месяца назад
No convoluted explanation necessary; religion and government are two completely different things - non-overlapping magisteria as the man said.
@willievanstraaten1069
@willievanstraaten1069 2 месяца назад
Damn this was great.
@ThePapawhisky
@ThePapawhisky 2 месяца назад
Thank you Dr. Zuckerman! The religious right seem to have unlimited energy for working their primitive and exclusive beliefs into schools, laws, governance. We don’t need sharia.
@Mohamed-bm6yk
@Mohamed-bm6yk 2 месяца назад
I stand in front of the sea he said to me why are you sad ? I said because of the treatment of some people He said dont worry they treat me the same way I said how? He say those who swim in the surface said oh look that sea is turbulent or calm but those who dives inside me explore my secrets and extract my pearls Then i laugh but people looked at me and said look he is insane he laugh with himself Then i hear the sea laugh at their reaction then i laugh with the sea and ignored them I dont like superficial people and you have to not reveal your depth to them because they are not interested in watering you they just wanna collect your fruits Religion isnt for superficial people
@alanhilder1883
@alanhilder1883 2 месяца назад
Well before 3 minutes in, you can see Lewis has stopped listening, to understand, his eyes have glazed over, thinking no no no no. almost ready to stick his fingers in his ears and yell " La la la I can't hear you. "
@Robert-xs2mv
@Robert-xs2mv 2 месяца назад
Yeah teach the constitution instead!
@alessioandreoli2145
@alessioandreoli2145 2 месяца назад
Do good to the others are secular values, not religious ones. No religion can be in charge because by definition it wouldn't allow other beliefs to exist. All governments and schools must be secular to guarantee choice for everyone.
@user-nz8uy1zm3z
@user-nz8uy1zm3z 2 месяца назад
everyone was religious before 3-400 years ago, do you really think no one was kind to eachother before 1600? Your second point falls flat with the exapmple of america. 99.9 percent of the first americans were christian, yet they established a country where all religions could flourish. think brother, think
@bernardbarroga1497
@bernardbarroga1497 2 месяца назад
Well said Professor!! You just hit the nail on the head.👌🏼
@_BlackSummer
@_BlackSummer 2 месяца назад
Broke him tf up lmaoooo
@KasperKatje
@KasperKatje 2 месяца назад
Nothing to add 🙌
@MrCanis4
@MrCanis4 2 месяца назад
Look at Northern Europe. The less religion, the better well-being for 'the whole' of the country.
@johncampbell9120
@johncampbell9120 Месяц назад
Righteous is a religious word so probably a poor choice while making a point against god.😮
@blvdes
@blvdes 2 месяца назад
dude on the right didn't say a word the entire video
@jakenolt8561
@jakenolt8561 Месяц назад
Need to modulate your voice Mr. Z. Too high and fast.
@toni4729
@toni4729 2 месяца назад
Christ created Hell. How wonderful.
@irenehartlmayr8369
@irenehartlmayr8369 2 месяца назад
What rubbish !!! Where did you get that nonsense from??
@chamicels
@chamicels 2 месяца назад
@@irenehartlmayr8369 God is Christ is Holy Spirit ...so christ created hell.
@irenehartlmayr8369
@irenehartlmayr8369 2 месяца назад
@@chamicels There is a lot of discussion about the trinity and no consens on that.....Look at the different interpretations. How do you reconcile the teachings of Christ with hell....? And the creation of everything is nowadays not even imputed to God,even the Catholic Church has preached ( nowadays ) that Genesis is to be understood SYMBOLICALLY,and NOT literally. Thats one thing atheists don't understand.... How about considering the age in which the OT was written ? Even on You Tube there are many more interpretations on how to understand the OT. Instead of taking everything literally.Thats nonsense. Besides being unimaginative. There are also a lot of mistakes due to language mis- interpretations !
@chamicels
@chamicels 2 месяца назад
@@irenehartlmayr8369 a lot of Christians believe otherwise so there is that. Which is it? God did a pretty bad job of conveying his message if all the Christians can’t get on the same page
@irenehartlmayr8369
@irenehartlmayr8369 2 месяца назад
@@chamicels That is nonsense. Since when are all people on the same page? Atheists have very strange and naive ideas.... and so is anybody who takes everything literally.
@supernaturalabilitiessiddh8027
@supernaturalabilitiessiddh8027 2 месяца назад
Objective reality exists, and society should be grounded in its principles. If something is true, it has a divine origin, regardless of how we arrive at that truth. Unfortunately, Abrahamic religions are not grounded in reality. Except for a few verses, there is hardly any truth in the Quran, Hadith, or the Bible. The concepts of hell, heaven, the last days, judgment, resurrection, and salvation, as described in the Bible or Quran, do not exist in reality. Nevertheless, a genuine concept of God or the Absolute exists. We must conceive of it in terms of Nature or the Quantum field (as in Spinoza's conception of God), yet there's more depth to it. The idea of holy individuals, enlightened beings, remains valid. The principle of cause and effect is paramount; every action bears consequences. Morality stands as a cornerstone of life. Our conscience guides us in distinguishing right from wrong. It's essential to delve into the concept of suffering and ways to transcend it, and to actively alleviate the suffering of humanity.
@carefree4271
@carefree4271 2 месяца назад
W
@Istandby666
@Istandby666 2 месяца назад
We do not live in a free country. We live in a country where people have voted for religious beliefs to be put into our laws.. The state I'm in has a law against Islam. This state needs to be taken to the supreme court and sued. This state is ran by a dictator. A religious dictator trying to force their religious ideologies on others. Look at the most religious states. They're poor states, they have very little education, they have the worse in trying to help people. Religion isn't here to help us, but to control us. Religious people buy the cheapest shit to donate to the homeless and poor. All while harming that community. For example, water is not water. Some water, the cheap crap will take away minerals and vitamins. Causing the homeless more harm. Homeless people are donated sugar. Why, because it's cheap and it makes the religious person feel better about themselves. It's not about the homeless and the poor. It's about the self centered religious person. Of your flying sky daddy is real. Why didn't it stop a tornado from miss placing people r bringing a life to an end. Whike the people not effected say that all that happened because people don't believe. If it harms a religious person then it was a different ideology that is a pyro, looks to be surrounded by fire. Really, this is your way of justifying your beliefs. Another brick in the wall, is a great song. We don't need no thought control.
@user-nz8uy1zm3z
@user-nz8uy1zm3z 2 месяца назад
Islam is an evil religion that promotes the enslavement of non-believers, it ought to be banned everywhere. The rest of your rambling is rather irrelevant
@Philusteen
@Philusteen 2 месяца назад
Amen. 🖖
@irenehartlmayr8369
@irenehartlmayr8369 2 месяца назад
Martin Luther King was a man,who did not fulfil his own criteria in his private life.That has been known for quite a while.Hypocrisy. A lot of these " heroes " don't live up to the things they preach. Of course,the know it alls know better.... There is nothing wrong with religion,as long as it is preached and practiced intelligently. There are lots of advisable things in religious texts. As for the seperation of Church and State,that has been done since the Enlightenment !!! Overall.At least in Europe. It was one of the basic principles of the Enlightenment period.
@perspicacioussimpleton7288
@perspicacioussimpleton7288 2 месяца назад
The professor makes good points, but I feel he's being too antagonistic and rude. Youll never reach your intented audience if you belittle them.
@Lordidude
@Lordidude 2 месяца назад
You know whats rude? Trying to un-alive gay people, nonbelievers and removing a woman's right to choose over her body. His antagonism is justified.
@perspicacioussimpleton7288
@perspicacioussimpleton7288 2 месяца назад
@@Lordidude That's going beyond the argument of religion. Just because folks within a group proclaim certain beliefs doesn't mean you should assume that's what the entire groups stands for. It's like me placing emphasis on the vocal minority of the LGBTQ+ community who is advocating for children well below the proper maturity to learn about each other's sexes and genders. Most LGBTQ+ folks just wish to be left alone. If we are to properly communicate with folks ready to listen, we must avoid antagonizing them and trust that they won't just leap at a chance to villainize us. And it's important to note that some just can't be reasoned with and will never listen because their faith is stalwart. If we are to advocate for tolerance, then we must lead by example. Psychologically, we all hurt. We've all suffered in some way or another. We're all scared, but we shouldn't allow that hurt or fear to cloud our reason.
@Lordidude
@Lordidude 2 месяца назад
@perspicacioussimpleton7288 That is exactly the argument against religion. Those people who promote those horrible things are the ones who are more religious. People who don't have that hatred are less religious.
@Istandby666
@Istandby666 2 месяца назад
​@@perspicacioussimpleton7288 You sound like you haven't watched the whole debate. Look at how Lewis treats him.
@perspicacioussimpleton7288
@perspicacioussimpleton7288 2 месяца назад
​@@Istandby666I have watched the whole debate, and you can tell there was a hint of passive aggressive disrespect at about 3:20 onwards when specifying "christian" teachings that not all christians adopt, and I say this as an ex-catholic now spiritual agnostic who follows the teachings of Jesus and nothing more. There is a wealth of wisdom in the Bible, but to take it as is without any sort of reason is downright foolish.
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