Frieren Vs Galadriel: How to Write a Likable Character (Director's Cut) 

the main difference is that Frieren is just plan better in every aspect of story telling and character Development

The main difference is that Frieren and Amazon's Steaming Pile of Garbage shouldn't even be in the same conversation. The fact that rings of power has a 7/10 on IMDB is already way more than it deserves.

The difference is that Amazon raped Tolkiens work with uninspired writers, dog shit actors, and woke garbage

I agree with the other replies, we are giving the Amazon knockoff a lot more credit than it deserves. The thing is, Frieren’s journey is more than mourning. It’s her journey of discovering the essence of humanity. Throughout her life, she has been alone and didn’t understand the appreciation of life. But with her second party consisting of Stark and Fern, she slowly grasps what Himmel meant to her. And her mindset changes slowly, where you can see Frieren taking care of Fern and Stark far more intimately than her first party.

Not rlly “mourning” (imo) its more like learning to appreciate things in the present and getting to know people best you can. It doesn’t focus on the sadness himmels death caused/s but more the positive impact he had on frieren throughout the tine he was alive. Idrk if thats the same as mourning but yeah :)

She's been shown to be vulnerable to magic that induces sleep so that's a weakness on the books.

Which episode did she say that?

@@RebirthOfJack Around ep 16-17 if I'm remembering, right before they arrive Ausserst.

@@RebirthOfJack I think it's the one where they reach Aberst or whatever the place is called where they take the first class exam

@@astrospect it's a curse, different to human magic, those are mostly used my demons/monsters that's why she couldn't defend against it and also why only the goddess magic can dispel it

Why would it make you sad? The capitalists are everything Tolkien was opposed to. Evil cant create it only corrupts so its expected that they would try to corrup Tolkiens work. Let us do our part to make sure the book Firod is remembered.

@@baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714 They are socialists though, at least they are catering to the progressive public

​@@vampirecount3880neo liberalism don't really care about making good stories about so called woke ideas, they just want to be perceived as such to make money

​@@vampirecount3880no they are totally making those sequel purely out of greed which is 100% capitalist behavior. Read Marx to see what socialism is really about before talking Its just that they are targetting progressive public because they are financed by those lobby and get bonus money when they do thing like that

A true fellow Tolkien fan!!! 😭 I’m so sick of other fans defending the show even though they have read Tolkien’s works. It’s disrespectful to the legend himself!

i think it was during the fight with macht that she actually said that, thanks to the personality and personal admissions of the demon, she didnt have doubts in killing for the very first time

​@@maxtech226eyy, not yet on anime there

And what Roaming Trend may be forgetting - or willfully ignoring to make a point - is that Aura's not just a demon, she's incredibly dangerous. All those armour suits are people she's enslaved with her Scale, mere suits because she's held them so long their bodies have rotted away. And that army's there to annihilate the town after her cronies figure out how to disable the barrier around it. Even if demonkind had any capacity at all for decency, Aura was a threat that needed to die, and Frieren knew from past experience - with demons in general and with Aura - to have no remorse. Edited for grammar tisms.

@@insulttothehumanrace3807 Actually, at least in the anime (haven't read the Manga) the scene implies Aura had them behead themselves hence that's how she herself dies.

@@Hamakua I only remembered that after typing this, you are correct there. And she beheads them because someone with sufficient willpower can resist the scale, so she doesn't want to take the chance. Though the rest of my point remains, it is firmly established that Aura was too dangerous to spare.

If you like this video, you'll love my next one. Will be talking about Frieren's writing and visual storytelling.

@@RoamingTrend As a film/creative writing major, I’ll definitely be anticipating the new video analysis, then!

@chamii-p7248 I probably won't say anything new then if wr studied the same things. 😅

@@RoamingTrend lmfaooo dw, I would still enjoy it regardless. I like seeing how others put together pieces of a narrative and come to their own conclusions about it. Plus, don’t give me too much credit-I hadn’t noticed during the funeral that Frieren was framed specifically with an empty space where Himmel should’ve been standing. So trust, you’ll definitely be presenting interesting info lmao.

The _series_ marks the passage of time based on Himmel's death, but that does not necessarily mean that _Frieren_ does. In fact, it is strongly implied at many points that Frieren has been around for so long that she's basically all but given up on counting the passage of time at all (even after Himmel's death)... To her, it doesn't really matter whether it's been 20 years or 200 years since Himmel died. Himmel is still dead either way. There's no point in counting the time that's passed since an event you can't change anyway. All she can do is move forward, on her own, and maybe come to understand more about what she ended up leaving behind her, without even realizing it...

It’s almost 3 months now. I think it’s working

utube is mega shifty.. with all bs take downs they save tons of $$$ n also makes heaps of $$$ from bs copyright(for 10sec clips etc).

Aside from Halbrand 😂

Nah they make Sauron and the orcs more sympathetic than the elves. It’s actually impressive.

Would you want spoilers? If not then I won’t comment

your wish is fulfilled in the manga.

Hard to spoil but in the manga, theres a fight that shows that Himmel is literally built differently

I'm the same, I'm not an emotional person but this show has flawed me. When he was old, seeing his cabinet become more and more empty as he had sold things off but had kept his memento of Frieren and his friends or the flashbacks like when he was unfazed by being unable to pull the hero's sword. Can't remember a show that has kept me as gripped as this one.

Actually, I think this is another great aspect of the storytelling. To everyone else in the world, he is Himmel the Hero, the man who led them all into battle and defeated the Demon Lord. But to Frieren, and the others who travelled with him, in their memories, that doesn't even really matter at all. That's actually one of the _least_ noteworthy things about the man they knew. They alone knew that his true value as a person came from things that had nothing to do with his combat ability, or even his role as the Hero, at all. What they inevitably end up looking back on are all the other things: The times around the campfire, his surprising insights, his reassuring kindness, or his simple joy at being able to enjoy a sunset, or a simple field of flowers, with his friends... But of course, those are also all memories of him that soon enough, nobody but Frieren will even remember at all...

Exactly. Like they do an amazing job of immediately showing this elf character doesn't really seem to care too much about others, her relationship with her party isn't that meaningful, and then all of a sudden she's crying and it's just like.... "oh damn." Not even 15 minutes into the first episode and I was choking up. So far it's the absolute best example I know of on establishing characters and their relationships quickly and effectively

I don't know much about the lore in regards to Galadriel, but Frieren is close to how I would imagine her.

I didn't like Frieren from the start, but just the characters she meets and interacts with every episode carried the show for me. Also Fern.

BTW did you know that all character names in the Anime are actually German words and "Frieren" means to be/feel cold?

Mistake? No it was an insult, nay a crime against humanity.

@@estevesfilmandgaming3115 True

I would call it vandalism, but I don't want to insult the Vandals.

A crime against Tolkien

It was heart breaking the way they trashed Tolkien and Middle Earth. Thank god for Frieren.

only part about video where i had some concerns lol Yeah in freiren's world you just don't humanise demons. and honestly. I feel like fantasy world having purley evil race is really refreshing (After literary every fantasy anime trying to squeeze some sort of demon waifu, and have demons as misunderstood) So, while I think evil race can be a nice thing, expanding on the topic and setting the story upon it is even better. Demons in freiren aren't just obstacles, a bunch of henchmen to kill in spectacular manner, but they serve a much greater role

Yeah I don't know what this guy is talking about. Guyladriel mercilessly kills a troll (who's only crime was being a troll in its natural habitat) and they use that scene to show off how badass she is, and she still brags about it later. On the other hand, Frieren has major reasons to be ruthless with demons, both emotional and rational. And even then she feels relieved when Aura further proves that she doesn't value or understand friendship just before killing her. One is a psychopath written by incompetent, mentally challenged writers. The other is a lovable and well written character. P.S. don't call the RoP character Galadriel, it can lead to confusion. That placeholder character has nothing to do with Tolkien's Galadriel.

Not really. She thinks though that demons are like animals, but she knows their potential to be dangerous. Galadriel kills just for the purpose of killing. She has killed other races, but for what reason? Frieren kills because her whole tribe was killed by demons and she witnessed so many people around her get killed by a demon. And they tried to give a chance to a demon before but it failed. That's the reason why, she doesn't give a chance to demons anymore.

Demons in freirens world are defined as a monster that has learned speech to only deceive and kill humans. They only understand emotions as a tool to manipulate

Her epithet is literally Frieren the Slayer, I think that already says enough.

nope - demons are more like shape changing man eating balrogs than orcs. Shelob or her mother Ungoliant would also be a better analogy for the demons.

And Demon's body perish when they die, unlike normal human. Like other rampaging monsters in Frieren's world, Demon's body composed of Mana.

Orcs and uruk-hai are short sighted, scatter and aggressive to pose any significant threat without sauron leading them. The demons here are much stronger, cunning, and organized in small groups.

Bruv it's almost ending now and I am gonna lose my shit when it does. I hope the same people make season 2. Obviously they can't end the adventure with 2 episodes and it's clear now that the anime about time is gonna take it's time. I just hope frieren S2 doesn't come back after 50 years 💀

⁠​⁠@@HalIOfFamerFrieren Beyond Journey’s End pacing was amazing. It didn’t feel rushed or dragged. And they were able to fit on average an A and B plot to every episode. When I was watching some episodes, I felt like I watched the episode but it was only 10 minutes in. This isn’t a bad thing it’s just that the show is so good at pacing that it can make an episode feel like 2 without feeling too fast or boring. So honestly, this is a rare show that made me feel _satisfied_ like, it doesn’t make me feel like I’m waiting for something or feel empty about it. It’s hard to explain but it feels like a fulfilling warm meal.

@@pacificnebula4899 man I am jealous then. Even the episodes without any action felt like they were only 10 minutes long for me. The other day I rewatched an episode to see some details I've missed(the one where fern fights the blood mage demon) and it legitimately felt like it's 5 minutes. I am not a manga person, I prefer my japanese media animated and voiced. But I am seriously considering this as my 1st manga.

*sigh* Fine. I'll rewatch Frieren.

@@myrineae Always get a chuckle when I see a comment like this. And Im surprised at how many people havent given Frieren a chance. Its so damn good.

She tried. One of them defeated her so badly that it took her out of commission for about 100 years.

​@@dyingearth [manga spoilers] at least she came back swinging by decoding Macht's transmutation magic that not even its user nor Serie could visualise

​@@dyingearth yeah, it took her 100 years to disspell Macht's gold magic.

​​@@VioletEvergarden-zd5ovshe need 100 years to recover after her first fight with macht 500 years ago, but only took few weeks to uncode Diagolze using macht memory and experiencing diagolze first hand

She sends both demons and her friends to their graves, literally...

I love that part of it. There's no unnecessary drama like that because Frieren has lived long enough and is wise enough to know that shouldn't happen. I also love how she's "just as bad as the demons" in their eyes, by deceiving them with mana like how the demons deceive humans with words. If they don't play fair, why should we?

The demons are a nice contrast to the current concept of making everything a shade of gray. Sometimes thinks are just straight forward. Demons are human devouring monsters. Predators evolve to become better predators. That's all the demons society and communication is. Sharpening of their fangs to better kill people. Frieren's mercilessness is shocking when we first see it, but like you said it makes for an interesting dynamic. Because she's right! There's simply no finding of common ground.

Exactly, and later on she explains that the fatal error in dealing with demons IS humanizing them which they directly confirm, they DON'T have human emotions and to deal with them in any other way is asking them to kill you.

They are kind of like skinwalkers. They are NOT like human, and in manga later it is explained masterfully how that works. They trully are just monsters able to mimick human behavioral patterns. They are evolution of mimics who's only goal is to lure people to their demise. And that's very interesting and something we never saw before, it really makes you think, feel for them a bit, and than reality hits - if you feel for them, you're dead.

There is an interesting distinction between the creations of Morgoth in Tolkien, and the Demons of Sousou no Frieren. In SnF, the Demons are a race of predators. Many look human, or at least humanoid, but it is very clear that they do not view themselves as being human. They explicitly mimic human behaviors and human language for the direct purpose, self-admitted, of rendering their prey more vulnerable. They are psychopaths, or in biological terms, aggressive mimic predators. In Tolkien, beings like Sauron and the Balrogs were Maiar, and followed Morgoth by choice, whereas beings like the Orcs, Trolls, and Dragons were creations of Morgoth, and it is implied that they were 'built evil' by design. I guess the question is, what does that mean? And then there is the debate over the origin of Orcs - there are conflicting descriptions of how they were made, and in at least one recounting, they were Elves twisted by Morgoth through long years of abuse, so its conceivable that Orcs might have some moral agency. One thing from Tolkien, buried fairly deep in the Silmarillion, is that 'true' living creatures, like Elves, Dwarves, and Men, were given souls by Eru Iluvatar. Presumably the creations of Morgoth don't have souls. We do know, from the story of the creation of the Dwarves by Aule, that the Valar could create life themselves, but only Eru could 'sanctify' that life. Getting back to the Rings of Power, we could ask how much Galadriel knows about this. We could also compare and contrast how the fight against Demons/Sauron affects the behavior of the protagonist. Frieren certainly is aggressive about exterminating Demons when presented with them, but otherwise doesn't go out of her way to destroy them, and seems to be perfectly happy living her life, pursuing simple pleasures. Galadriel has allowed her quest for vengeance to warp her behavior and her relationship with her own people as well as everyone she encounters. She badly needs a positive hobby.@@TheSmokingMustache

Kinda spoiler here but the main problem with Demon in Frieren world is, they just unable to understand "humanity", it's even feel like they're not made to be like that. Banishing demon is like exterminating virus, there is no peaceful way (at least for now)

You know, it's surprising to me now that I realize it, but I've never heard anybody describe it that way, and it's absolutely perfect: "The coming-of-age story of someone who's already lived for over a thousand years."

@@foogod4237 Not only that, but the coming of age story of someone that has already slain the dragon. Usually, slaying the dragon is how you come of age.

I was choking up less than, what, 15 minutes into the first episode? It was crazy but I loved it

It's also what makes the demons interesting and relevant antagonists. They're entirely incapable of understanding the perspectives of humans/elves/dwarves/etc in anything other than the most transactional manner, and any attempt to understand the perspective of the demons will result in the demons manipulating that and using it against you. It's a fundamental divide in worldview that can only really result in conflict.

Even in the anime( im anime only) It shows you how it rubs onto each other. Spending time with frieren Slowly they started to realise how they were just a blimp in history and starts planning for legacy.(since its the only thing thwy can leave behind)

It's a coming of age story, but it tries to challenge that concept. A coming of age story implies a young character undertaking a huge task, and through its completion grown both in age and in character. But in Frieren, it's exactly backwards. The character is already old, in a way. She's already been through the big adventure, she's completed the huge task. But only now is she finally coming of age, by relieving her past instead of braving the future.

So far for me, the message I've taken from it is making the most of the time you have, and not taking the presence of the people around you for granted. It's a beautiful story though with a plethora of lessons for people to take away

@@dudeinadoughboy4327 Interesting take, and another contradiction. Frieren, an immortal elf, needs to make the most of her time. Seems like the writers tried packing as many contradictions as possible into this story.

Seeing this kinda makes me want to see a scenario where a human from modern time gets Isekai’d into the world of Frieren but as an elf and become a mage because while they’ll have a lot knowledge and likely learn a ton of spells since they have a long lifespan now. They likely would still have the mentality of a human which would make them want to learn things quicker and be highly motivated which would make that certain individual very powerful.

@@andrewsanusi8462 To be fair, a lot of people are kind of lazy. Like if you didn't have to pay bills and you lived forever, would you be doing something productive or just watching more youtube, playing games, and watches tv? I think if you are able a lot of people would take the slow elf approach.

@@Lilitha11 True, I think some people would likely end up becoming more lazy than they already are if they essentially became immortal. But I feel like by the time they reach 120 they would eventually get bored of living the lazy life and go out and see the world, I know I would’ve.

@@andrewsanusi8462 Frieren does go around seeing the world though. And in fact, casually traveling around and seeing the sights is the lazy 'elf' way. The human way is more sitting in a room and studying twelves hours a day, then when you go outside it is just to test and practice the magic you been researching. If you visit the town to try their food and see the interesting culture and stuff like that, that is the 'lazy' path in this context. If you travel to train and hone your skill and you never stop to smell the roses, then that is the 'hard working' path, in this context. This isn't really being lazy, since you are expanding your awareness and becoming a more well rounded person but traveling around sight seeing and passively learning of the world is much different than the intense training and focus that human mages do in the setting.

She is really skilled at learning, decoding and modifying spells she experience. But not so much at coming up with her own fresh spell

I think the point with that note was that _that particular shot_ shows all their flaws visually at the same time (except, it doesn't really show anything about Eisen, except that he's shorter than everyone else). That annotation was obviously also clearly intended mostly as a joke... But I also think it could be argued that that specific scene also shows Eisen as sort of hunched up and turned to the side, basically in his own world, while everyone else is enjoying themselves and interacting with each other. In this regard I think it does actually convey more about his character than is obvious at first glance, too... (And Eisen being intimidated/afraid of Stark is not just because Eisen is a coward. It's because Stark's own nature (to those who can actually perceive it) is _just that scary._ This becomes pretty clear once you realize that _a freaking dragon_ had exactly the same sort of instinctual panic reaction after just coming face-to-face with him, too.)

Actually, no, that's kinda exactly what a "Mary Sue" is not. Generally, the defining characteristics of a "Mary Sue" character include the fact that they are beloved by everyone (except possibly one main antagonist, etc), have no character flaws, and never do anything wrong. (That's basically what the term means.) So a bitter/angry/etc Mary Sue is actually _not a Mary Sue,_ pretty much by definition. (That doesn't mean it isn't a badly written character, just that it's actually a _different kind_ of badly-written character.)

@foogod4237 at best, that would be a technicality. Writing labels are not so rigid that you can escape them with a technicality. In this case, however, I can't even grant you that much, because it would require Guy-ladriel's anger to be portrayed as a character flaw, which it is not. The writers here present it as righteous fury and make sure that she's always vindicated in the end. It's the world, not their character, that's at fault. So you don't get to claim it as an intended character flaw and thus don't escape the "Mary Sue" label. This is just what a Mary Sue looks like when written by toxic, spiteful people.

@@foogod4237 wrong

​@@serpentinious7745Except that's just not true. Multiple characters point out that she's wrong (Elendil calls her childish, Gil-Galad says she'll bring about the very evil she's trying to destroy, Adar calls her just as corrupted as he is, even Sauron tells her to chill out). In the end, she's guilty of nursing Sauron himself back to health and putting him in charge of Mordor, which Sauron is quick to point out. She's clearly a "girl boss"-type of character, which does make her awful to watch, but she's not a Mary Sue.

@Nethan2000 You're too focused on the "everybody loves Mary Sue" quality. Far more important, and far more prevalent, is the "Mary Sue is better than everyone at everything" aspect. As I said before, this is what a Mary Sue looks like when written by a bitter, spiteful narcissistic. Just like how a standard MS writer wants validation through love, a spiteful MS writer wants validation through putting doubters in their place. Both are the projections of extremely insecure writers, with the primary difference being that the latter is also a highly toxic individual.

What a gift.

Well said. It is this same thinking that pushed Apple into Window's shadow.

@@zaphoddog3878 It's less bout anime companies, than Japanese culture in general. Nintendo swings the copyright hammer wildly too. They have different understanding of intellectual property.

Excellent points, I'd like to add that it's not a problem if Frieren herself is never that vulnerable, Fern and Stark _are._ They're incredibly exceptional, but they're still mortal and well below Frieren in skill and power. It's like Saitama from One Punch Man: we already know he's going to win, but what about the guy next to him? What happens if someone actually lands a hit on King?

Also, another thing to add the Demon Z forgive me for not being able to spell the name the one that sealed in stone frieren wasn’t able to defeat him 80 years ago. It’s a good measure for her strength, She’s gotten stronger even After her 10 year journey.

As someone who's read it I'd say your assumption in the 3rd paragraph is pretty on point. The closer she gets to the end of her journey back to the Demon King's castle the harsher and more deadly enemies are. For example, enemies who she didn't need to worry about before for X reasons are now a massive hurdle and she definitely can't fight them alone.

@@Vespuchian Frieren though is still mortal since she can still die, it’s just she’s just so experienced beyond belief that her own wisdom and accumulated knowledge is her primary defense over pure power. Since pure power and skill in combat only takes you so far in Frieren. As is proven by Fern and Stark taking down massively more powerful demons by leveraging their own strengths and exploiting their weaknesses.

The reason why a party was needed was already brushed by in the anime. 1. Frieren's a powerful mage, but even the latest & most advanced defensive spell can be broken by sheer brute physical force. Eisen & Stark could probably shatter this era's defense spell. 2. Holy power is a talent and can't be learned (giving JJK vibes). Frieren, Fern & Stark (2 mages and 1 warrior) fell to a sleep curse, leaving only Sein, the priest, awake. 3. Even if Frieren is older, more experienced, and has greater mana, a teenager like Fern is faster in magic atk spd. Stark is probably faster than Frieren but with phys atk spd. If Frieren is caught unaware, someone with speed could kill her, both magic and physical attacks. With a party filled with different roles, they can cover each other's weaknesses. Regarding hidden dangers... we have this false sense of security that Frieren will beat everyone in the end because she's the main character, she's powerful, and she's at least 1000yrs old. "It's not that kind of story," some in the fandom might say. Most of the fandom will only accept Fern as the person who will beat Frieren in the end. We believe everything Frieren says because she has a millennia of experience. But if something is happening in the background that she does not expect, if she gets blindsided by powerful opponents... it could be her downfall. She's not the only being out there who's old and powerful. And not all of them are on the mortals' side like Serie is. And just like how she deceives demons by hiding her real mana for centuries, maybe demons can adapt and learn to deceive Frieren for centuries too. By definition, we are already aware that monsters and demons are capable of evolution. Although Frieren is trying to improve her understanding of mortals, she's still not there yet. Even in the anime, If given a choice, there are times where she wants to abandon towns and people in distress because it's a bother. The North has been embroiled in war with the remnants of the demon king's forces, and Frieren doesn't care. (I get it, she's 1000yrs old and we humans keep making the same mistake of warring. She also deserves her own way of life after her service in defeating the demon king.) Knowing what's in the manga though, there's something boiling underneath, but Frieren is more focused on her personal self-discovery journey than clues of the demons making a comeback.

The Fight is like comparing a Jackie Chan fight and a Duel between 2 Samurai in old Japanese film. One has a drawn out fight with a lot of visual spectacular moves, and the other fight is 2 sword wielding Samurai who look at each other for a minute, and end the fight with no more than 2 strikes, and bloods flying everywhere.

i envy and admire that type of legacy one leaves behind.

This is also shown in how the framing for episodes is "28/29 years after the death of Himmel the Hero, at this location". It shows his impact on a major scale, how his life and death is now a marked point in history; and on a personal scale, since his passing is what motivates Frieren on the journey we watch.

Well said.

lol the big studio angry at the animated series being more serious and grown up than their waste of money, no wonder they are mad

​@@longtsun8286Dude said "Wokeness" unironically. In what world is that well said?

Spoilers The manga later further explores that concept with a demon who struggles to understand the words "evil" and "guilt" so much that goes to great lengths to understand those words.

​@@hoangnguyennguyen1032 Add to the spoiler: there was a demon who basically went through the darker route of frieren journey to find humanity. Spent several centuries to understand ideas such as "evil" "love" and "fear" but even in the end can never truly understand these concepts.

I'm glad to gave made an impact in your life

The clarification is not really for copyright purposes. I think the main issue was really the example clips where I'm not talking, so I got rid of most of those. But while I was there, I needed to rephrase a few things, add some content that was brought up to me in the comments and added a spoiler warning to those who missed it the first time. Just a bit of clean up while I'm at it.

​@@RoamingTrendIt's still crazy that they try to claim a few seconds you pause to breath makes it a substitute for the original content. This isn't some random company It's Amazon, they know what they are configuring their take downs for, they are fully admitting other people talking about their products are more interesting then their products.

@@VioletDeathRei These sorts of things generally aren't actually done by Amazon (or other production companies) themselves. They're all outsourced to other "copyright enforcement" companies, which just use automated scanning to detect anything that looks like it might conceivably be a violation of any of their thousands of intellectual properties in their list, and then send out takedowns, usually without any human ever even looking at it...

Agreed. #JusticeforLadyGaladriel 😂

Correct, i don't understand this video, galadriel is amazing in the books and Peter trilogy

I hope so too!

​@@RoamingTrendwhat happened

Simple, because Rings of Power prioritize the "mystery boxes" over the characters themselves. They assume that the audience will get invested just because the main lead has a well-known name (Galadriel) and the entire revenge plot is enough to convince the audience that she loved and looked up to her brother.😅 It's so weird that we get more information about the "mysterious symbol on Finrod's body," the mysterious evil looking sword hilt or the absurd mithril backstory but when it comes to character who needs backstory the most, they provided none. It's more tragic and personal loss though in the extended lore. Unlike in ROP, Galadriel's brother didn't left for Middle Earth when she's a kid. Morgoth, the big bad, actually killed Galadriel's grandfather and stole her uncle's Silmarils. This is the main reason why the Noldor elves rebelled against the Valar and decided to go to Middle Earth but before they can leave as a group, Galadriel's a hole and selfish uncle who also happen to be their new king, started a bloody kinslaying with Galadriel's mother's people and all of this events obviously saddened Galadriel. Galadriel and her brother(s) have lots of time hanging out in Valinor and she's with Finrod in Doriath and maybe exchanged letters lol when he moved to Nargothrond. Also, notice how the show wanted to be always grandeus and epic about everything. Her revenge plot is all that matters to her and this one symbol and her dagger is all she thinks about. Heck, even finding her husband doesn't really matter to her. The only important person in her life is her deceased brother, the problem is that we as an audience don't understand why. Why can't she have normal relationships with other elves. We can see how she belittled and accused Elrond and how she's quick to threaten others when she's refused or not taken seriously. That's why she's an overall unlikeable character. She didn't want to be liked lol, her character wanted to be hated.

I guess while we're bringing the lore into it, one of the myriad things that annoy us about this is that Rings of Power season 1 allegedly takes place in the Second Age, while Galadriel was born before the First Age. She is (or at least should be) a few millennia old by now, and been quite socially active in that time. There's no reason whatsoever for her to be behaving like a temperamental brat, aside from that being the writers' idea of what a "Strong Female Character (tm)" looks like. Meanwhile, while we don't know exactly how old Frieren is, we do know that she has spent a good chunk of that life alone, and when she was living with people they weren't exactly the most mature of folks (Himmel's group had their share of eccentricities; and Flamme was more of a master/apprentice relationship than something more personal, plus judging by the potion remark she wasn't the best influence either), so her immaturity despite her advanced age makes some sense. That and judging from how much older Kraft appears to be it could be that in this show's case Elves just take that long to develop.

No problem 😊

I started watching frieren because of the first video It worked on me

Yes, it's very strange.

Do watch it. It’s a slower burn but really good character development

You're welcome!

Legend!

It was a joke. 😇

@@RoamingTrend I know. I just found it funny that you wrote short. On a side note. Why is Ubel hot? I hate (I don't really mean this) how beautiful she is, but her personality is horrible. I don't know if I can waifu her, so I'll waifu Serie instead.

You too!

Thanks for that

It actually started with the Hobbit, not the LotR trilogy. The Elf Characters you thought was not important in the Movie Trilogy has more relanvance if you also read the Hobbit.

Happy new year!!