Why You Don't NEED The Most Expensive Arc'teryx Jacket | Climbing Daily Ep.1413 

As a retailer for Arc'teryx. This was super helpful in nailing down tech specs that could be explained to anyone! Loved it!!!!

I have a beta-AR that's one of my most prized possession when it comes to outdoor gear. I used it for five years, in the city as well as in the mountains, and it's still going strong. It lost the water-repellant surface treatement but not a drop passes through the membrane. Expensive, but you get what you pay for. would recommend.

I'm fat. I'm not gonna be climbing any mountain. I wear Arcteryx as a hard flex

This is really helpful. Makes sense now. I still have my Theta AR after 5 years+. Still waterproof & still looks good. I probably need a Beta or Zeta for hiking, backpacking, and camping.

Such a good break down the the Arcteryx jacket line up. Well done guys!

Brilliant this has cleared so many things up. Thanks. 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

BRILLIANT VIDEO THANKS! Been wanting to know more about Arcteryx for ages to pleased to have seen this! If you can do more videos on their other products for hikers (eg jumpers, trousers) that would be great!

I use Alpha SV jackets (M) in 3 colours as my daily wear all year round. Great for the motorbike commute as well. Love the fit better than the other two categories and the fabric has that hard shell durable quality. Still wearing one bought in 2009. Send that one off to the Arc’teryx repair centre who fixed it up like new. Great product and company.

Brilliant video! I was wondering what the difference was between all the different versions, and this video explained everything so well.

I hiked past the event and talked to him for a bit as well, he's a genuinely nice guy who really knows everything about the products

Great video, wish I’d seen it before I ordered my jacket. I ended up sending two back before I decided on the Beta LT

You made a video that is 12 plus minutes of an add and made it fascinating. That is a pretty good skill to have.

This was the most informative video about Arteryx Jackets Thank you!!!!

Great video! Thanks for sharing

Great thorough review. The only wear and tear I see in my 2018 version are the elastic cuffs have a small rip from the jacket more like a hole and the primaloft isn’t as puffy but it’s still a great jacket.

i've bought the Arcteryx Alpha FL jacket. The main zipper slider broke on the ice climbing multi-pitch (first use), forcing me to take off the gloves and play with fingernails every time i had to open-close the jacket, that's far from pleasant when you want to keep your hands warm or you need to close the jacket fast due to snow and ice that's falling from above. For some reason Arc'teryx decided to use super weak YKK slider for the main zipper on all of their Alpha jackets. They need to change it since i'm not the only one that have experienced this malfuncion. I'm also really happy that it broke during the casual weekend climbing instead of some more serious expedition.

Please make such videos with other brands like Ortovox. The Video is super helpful!!

I have been using different Arcteryx products for climbing, mountaineering, hiking and skiing. They are superb !

Thank you, very useful !

Excellent explanation TY

This was perrrrrfect. I was looking at their jackets a while back but had no idea where to start cos of all the categories. This vid solved everything! *off to have a look at their site*

Super appreciated, really helpful!

This is like the best video explaining Arcteryx products

Thanks this was a clear explanation.

They do great cuts. Great style! However, I wished that my Arc'teryx jackets hardshells wouldn't all delaminate and fall apart. I wish they would not decline to repair them somehow. I wish they would care about their products after warranty time as well. At least here in Europe.

Technical is good! Do more!

this is actually super helpful thank you

I have the Alpha SV (L) for the days when it is extremely wet and windy, but not cold enough to need more than a lighter weight (Mammut Broad Peak) puffy. For colder days I have a Mammut Meron HS (XL) that has a more room for layering. For very cold days I have a Beta SV (XL) that fits over a fleece and belay jacket. My last trip to the UK in winter I only took the Alpha because I really don't need much insulation for the relatively warm UK winters.

Very clear !

Got Beta AR and the only thing I regret about it is not getting M instead of L, even though most of my normal and hiking clothes are L sometimes even XL! I mean it’s not that big of a problem but still…

This seasons been interesting, I received no less than 3 times "25%" off...

I wish there was a vid like this for (Backcountry) skiing

Nice presentation guys! Question please: i'm doing a lot of winter cycling (fatbike), need some light warm and breathable model that i can wear with 1 or 2 layers that will carry me up with -12 °C. Could you suggest me ZETTA SL model? Or another? Thank you very much!

This was amazingly helpful! Thank you!

I get a ton of use out of my Zeta LT shell. It’s light so it’s great for hiking, I use it for skiing, and although I prefer leathers if I think it might rain I will wear it motorcycling. In fact it’s great for motorcycling because sometimes u just want something light and breathable that is also windproof, depending on the temp. Obviously it’s a great everyday rain jacket too. If I put a puffer on underneath it can handle pretty much the coldest weather Chicago has to offer. That’s why I don’t mind the high price for a shell, as it can replace so many other jackets if u wanted it to.

Fantastic video, thanks!

OK... this biggest question I have is deciding which to get for Trekking long distances (not climbing) with possible fowl weather like Northern Sweden, Finland or high altitudes like 14K feet +; which line do you choose? Especially if you're hiking all day, where you need good storm protection, but very breathable and durable because of wearing a pack. Alpha, Beta, Zeta? AR or FL? :( I wish I could ask the ArcTeryx rep this question. Thoughts...

Climb in my royal navy surplus foul weather jacket. Is 3 layer goretex and heavy fabric. Only cost £40. Keeps me dry while climbing. Can't afford the risk of slicing open a £200 coat on sharp rocks.

I bought an Alpha SV as a climber, over a year ago. By far my most favorite purchase. It’s been around the world twice with me. I got it in black so I can use it for more activities. You can wear it with a suit on a wet day and it looks smart. Climbing, hiking, skiing and around town. Overall, it can be overkill for around town sometimes. But hey, you feel awesome wearing one!

Very informative. I'm using a Zeta LT (I believe), but never knew what it's actual purpose was? I just use it when it's raining or windy 😅

Alpher, Beeta and Zeeter. I'm with him so far. :)

Bought a Theta AR 5 years ago. All taped seams have come away, most of the goretex is detached and finally the zip is now broken. Have gone back to using my £5 secondhand Peter Storm jacket.

Informative video. A few things they didn't say: If you think you can't afford any Arc'teryx, they also have an outlet page, take a look at it. Gore Tex also exists in many quality rival brands that aren't as expensive. Arc'teryx is also almost always cut with an athletic build. So if you're thin it fits good. If you're "normal" it may fit okay, if a little snug. If you're heavy, you're going to be a lot better off going for a brand like Columbia Sportswear, The North Face, or others. Their product line is not quite the build quality, not built as dedicated to highly technical wear, but likely to work well for you and save you some money.

You only need Arcteryx for roaming the subway

What a clever sale system. In the end there is javket gor sunday breakfast , evening pite with mates, or getting rubish out in severe conditions.

For sure.

What would you use for climbing Kilimanjaro using layers?

Okay so that was confusing. Lol. So I don’t rock climb but I live in Wisconsin were it gets super cold and snows a bunch. I have young kids that love to play in the snow and go sledding a lot. I walk my dog and also go mountain biking in the summer. Nothing too crazy. What would be the best shell option for me? Thank you!

Why does the interviewer talk about it as if people buy multiple rain jackets for different weather. I mean sure I’ll buy the 800€ Alpha SV but also 3 cheaper ones in case the weather is not that bad and if it gets worse while I’m out and about I’ll just regret wearing the wrong one lmao

Alot of talk along with the dollars. Just get you a blackdiamond shell for a nice fit and IF you can shred that up use gear-aid patches to repair. Their perfect and give your jacket some personality.

I can tell you arcteryx jacket doesn't last you a lifetime. And they only offer warranty for the life expectancy of the jacket. had a Alpha SV for 7 years. Sent it for repair under the warranty but they wouldn't do. They say it's end of product life. Then they said they will try to do it but it won't be waterproof anymore. So in the end, I got 40% off for a new item.

I'll be picking up a Beta SV

Awesome vid

Which one to walk the 500 mile Camino de Santiago in April-May??

My question is where can fit in this whole explanation the leaf alpha jacket gen 2 ? Is that have a stronger material than the beta sv or alpha sv ?

I want the SV but I cant afford it for stuff like rainier or for doing Denali in future

What jacket is Ross wearing? Atom LT Hoody?

I have a arcteryx leaf alpha lt and I would really want to know how the leaf line goretex compares to the civilian line.

Great Brand

he uses 'for sure' like huge uses 'like' :)

3 Shell jackets A,B,Z.. .X.4 SV, AR, LTSL, LTFL, = 12.. X sizes say 4 ...XL. L. M. S. 48.. X colour 3 = 144 a fair bit of stock / choice

REI and Mountain hardware GTX Lines are excellent and half the cost.

GorTex patent has expired ages ago and there are a lot of similar (cheaper) fabrics on the market

so what’s the best jacket to trap?

Is that the 2018 woad beta lt? The yellow one

mountain bike riding for the trails . which one ?

Very good video. Clear and forward. It really helped me a lot at understanding why these jackets cost that much and I now understand that its not just an overpriced piece of bullshit, but a very special equipment geared towards climbers

It's a lot easier to understand than most people think. Lets just say Alpha SV is number 1, and Alpha AR is number 2 on the activity intensity ladder. When you're deciding which to buy, you have to ask yourself, is there a pontenial I will be doing this Alpha activity in an SV enviroment. If the answer is yes, then buy the Alpha SV and don't look back, because the SV will cover the AR category as well. All you have to do is open up some zippers, and you can cool yourself down should you find yourself in less severe conditions. Now, if you ask yourself the same question and your answer is you're not going to be in any SV weather conditons then you buy the AR. If you buy the AR, and one day you find yourself in a SV weather condition then you're just shit-outta-luck, Shirly. The worlds hates you! ;) If light weight is your main focus, and you believe you're not going to be in a SV weather condition then buy LT, and don't look back. We all need to get away from wanting to buy the best to, instead, buying what we can afford, and what suits are purpose.

Does anyone check the weather any more? If its raining, im not climbing

I miss the times when you could walk into the store and ask for a rain jacket size large.

What type of jacket is Jeremy Renner in the beginning of the movie"the Bourne legacy "?

Actually....The frustrating part of this is the lack of technicality. Whenever I am jacket shopping, I feel like I am surround by morons. Give me specifications, hard numbers, limitations and ratings. The guy kept saying "features"....dude tell me what these so called "features" are. It seems like every company is making or selling brand name fashion statements. I just want a functional jacket. Maybe I should start a jacket company because it shouldn't be this hard.

Is he wearing the atom lt in paradox?

Which jacket is the interviewee wearing?

I wish the jackets were little longer.

Which model is Ross jacket in the video? Thanks.

But i neeeeed that sweet Alpha SV sir ! xD

Hi. Good review, as always. I have a question. I just bought a Beta SV and after two days of use I realized that what you see around the Arcteryx logo on the inside of the jacket I'm starting to see it show through on the outside of the jacket, around the logo. Is it normal?

What is the dernier on the AR and LT? I'm a ski instructor but managed to put a few holes and tears in my Arc'teryx Sabre pants so I want a more durable and rugged solution. Things that can resist cutting / tearing falling on an ice walled superpipe or trees, branches, rocks or maybe even a ski cuts. I was wondering if an SV or AR might be good for that. What colour is your jacket? Paradox?

Thanks for the explanation.

I need a wind proof, water proof shell for skiing ,outdoor, and regular day. that will last Years

I never use my Alpha SV jacket, or my Beta AR pants. Why? They are heavy and cumbersome for something that just hangs out in the bottom of my pack. I finally purchased some very lightweight shells that pack up small and are super light. If I knew I was going to be standing under a waterfall all day, sure, I would wear them, but for bringing them along just to bring them along seems stupid. I live in the PNW and it rains all the time, they are like wearing a tent. After climbing in the Alps and seeing the European mindset of going fast and light. I haven't looked back and kinda feel that the heavier gear is kind of a dinosaur way of thinking. They are beautiful pieces and do what they are intended to do, but I am not going to be climbing with them unless I know the weather is going to be absolute shit and to be honest, I really try to stay out of weather like that, I don't enjoy it.

Watching this in 2021, these blokes are uncomfortably close to each other.

Nice products just in my opinion it’s overpriced even for technical gear. Plus the warranty should be lifetime like Patagonia and outdoor research.

Make and model of the interviewers down jacket? Thanks

You missed Delta, where does that line fit in?

I have a few of all of them. F it we only get one shot at life because a permanent dirt nap it’s only one breath away.

Who are these people who own a different Arcteryx Jacket for every conceivable condition? That's like 10 grand jackets..

They forgot to explain the "mx" line.

I wish they made stuff for people over 5'10" and 150 lbs. It's ridiculous! I couldn't wear the LEAF gear they tried to issue when I was active duty and can't as a civilian either. They need to take the LE part out period. No chip can wear that shit either.

What jacket does the guy have on? The blue jacket?

Great explanation! Still overpriced for me. I would rather spend the money going to climb.

There are tons of choices out there, but Arc'teryx offers better fitting for the skinny people like me, also the unique and beautiful colour choices they made~

its called 'Archaeopteryx'

The code is cracked! Puzzle solved! I'm prolly getting Alpha SL

What happened to Gamma?

what about atom and gamma-

So why are these such hot ski jackets, seems like a lot of people are using them as extreme ski jackets.

brb just sending this to every 'trendy' east londoner

The real elephant in this room is the pronunciation of 'Beta'! All kidding aside though, great video.