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Why You NEED to Throw Understable Discs | Disc Golf Tips Ep. 11 

Armory Disc Golf
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www.armorydiscgolf.com Understable discs are great and you need to have some in your bag. Nick gives some tips on how to use them and how they can help your game.
DISCS IN THIS VIDEO
Axiom Insanity- armorydiscgolf.com/products/i...
Lone Star Lariat- armorydiscgolf.com/products/l...
Innova Roadrunner- armorydiscgolf.com/products/r...
Mint Lobster- armorydiscgolf.com/products/m...
Mint Phoenix- armorydiscgolf.com/products/m...
0:00 Intro
0:47 They hold straight longer
1:26 They go farther
3:42 They can fade MORE than overstable discs
4:52 They can emulate the opposite hand throw
5:26 They can be used for many different purposes
6:18 Some holes NEED an understable flight
7:07 They reveal errors in your form
8:34 They don't need to be thrown as hard
9:25 Conclusion

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Комментарии : 73   
@BradW.
@BradW. Год назад
You answered so many questions for me in this presentation! Particularly about the affects of throwing understable discs with different power and how that affects their flight path. Thank you!
@ArmoryDiscGolf
@ArmoryDiscGolf Год назад
Love to hear it, glad it helped!
@EllisDiscGolf
@EllisDiscGolf Год назад
This is so true. My game has advanced a lot since I started throwing mostly understable.
@bosta84
@bosta84 Год назад
Great video. It's a good reminder to throw understable when the shot calls for it.
@ethanmaurer3217
@ethanmaurer3217 11 месяцев назад
The spike hyzer with an understable disc is one of my favorite shots to throw in the woods!
@ArmoryDiscGolf
@ArmoryDiscGolf 11 месяцев назад
Same! That lobster gets work done in wooded tunnels 👌
@jmal716
@jmal716 Год назад
Great info. Even as a seasoned rec player I never knew about the spike hyzer tip. Thanks man!
@ArmoryDiscGolf
@ArmoryDiscGolf Год назад
Thanks, I fairly recently learned about that one myself. Thought it was the coolest part of the video, personally
@Comeatmeow
@Comeatmeow 9 месяцев назад
Thanks for the video mate. Actually gave alot of great info for people like me who are only new. Practiced a couple shots with the understable fairway driver today which turned out to be very good as I finally worked out how to get further down to a hole than I have been before. Thankyou mate!
@ArmoryDiscGolf
@ArmoryDiscGolf 9 месяцев назад
Yessir, happy to hear it helped out 👊
@WarlordOfArttr99yhi99y4rt
@WarlordOfArttr99yhi99y4rt Год назад
Thank you for such a great video this information you provide is very useful. Keep up the great videos you make.
@ArmoryDiscGolf
@ArmoryDiscGolf Год назад
appreciate that, glad it helps!
@SummitFourtyOne
@SummitFourtyOne Год назад
The editing on this is just 👌🔥
@Ironic_Jihad
@Ironic_Jihad Год назад
Loved the spike hyper tip, very good info!
@ArmoryDiscGolf
@ArmoryDiscGolf Год назад
Thanks, I thought that was the coolest part myself
@leightaft7763
@leightaft7763 10 месяцев назад
Great video thank you
@ArmoryDiscGolf
@ArmoryDiscGolf 10 месяцев назад
👊 appreciate it
@robertomartinezoutdoors
@robertomartinezoutdoors Год назад
great explanation of the understable disc panning out. thanks
@ArmoryDiscGolf
@ArmoryDiscGolf Год назад
Only recently discovered that, thought it was cool
@kevinbramlett6938
@kevinbramlett6938 Год назад
Audobon! Love that course. I also recently 'discovered' the better distance and straighter flight that understable discs provide for my noodle arm. Good stuff.
@rageoid
@rageoid Год назад
Yesss !
@aurasystems
@aurasystems 5 месяцев назад
Well done.
@neverlayup
@neverlayup Год назад
Awesome video. Subbed
@ArmoryDiscGolf
@ArmoryDiscGolf Год назад
Thanks, glad to have you 👊
@krifid
@krifid Год назад
Great video. Just subscribed.
@ArmoryDiscGolf
@ArmoryDiscGolf Год назад
Thanks and thanks 👊
@timh8976
@timh8976 Год назад
Great video! Man you can carve up a course 😮 subscribed 👍
@ArmoryDiscGolf
@ArmoryDiscGolf Год назад
Appreciate it 👊 This is my home course, if I can play anything well it should be this one haha
@alibeya2238
@alibeya2238 Год назад
just picked up an origin disc from dd i'm excited to use it!
@ArmoryDiscGolf
@ArmoryDiscGolf Год назад
The origin is a great disc! Check out our review of the Midnight Prowl 2 (an Origin) if you haven't seen it yet 👍
@DRickAnderson
@DRickAnderson Год назад
I keep a star mirage in my bag. You won't believe the stuff you can do with it when you're scrambling, and can only really flick your wrist with no arm. It's saved my bacon more than once.
@ArmoryDiscGolf
@ArmoryDiscGolf Год назад
Star mirage isn't one you hear about often
@drm-
@drm- Год назад
Great video! Loving my Mint Lobster. Audubon is looking a little wet! @ 8:36 is where I love to throw a leopard3 or Jackalope
@ArmoryDiscGolf
@ArmoryDiscGolf Год назад
I normally go forehand with an A2 on the left side but that up the middle gap is more fun to throw haha
@striker5501
@striker5501 Год назад
7:08 “They reveal errors in your form” this so much… I just started playing last year around the end of the season, and the beginning of the season this year I began with throwing discs that were too fast for me so I was instinctively putting some anhyzer on every throw. Once my friends started to tell me that I had enough arm speed to start attempting the hyzer-flips is when they informed me of my anhyzer form. I’ve been able to start correcting my form but I’ve lost about 20-40 feet on my drives, due to slowing down in general but I’ve gone from scoring +8-10 to +3-6 on my home course. Can’t wait until next season to possibly start competing in tournaments.
@ArmoryDiscGolf
@ArmoryDiscGolf Год назад
heck yeah! now just imagine what those scores are gonna look like when you get that 20-40 feet back (and more) as you continue to work on your form 😤
@marshallwillis7648
@marshallwillis7648 Год назад
Great tips but whoever suggested that hoodie did you the real favor
@ArmoryDiscGolf
@ArmoryDiscGolf Год назад
😘
@jasonscott8997
@jasonscott8997 Год назад
Something also to consider is that pros throw overstable discs that are REALLY beat up so theyre actually flippy.
@ArmoryDiscGolf
@ArmoryDiscGolf Год назад
Yessir, good thing to consider
@calebdyer6332
@calebdyer6332 Год назад
This is a great video! I’m looking for a flippy 11-12 speed that turns but doesn’t burn. Curious if you have recommendations. My sword has gotten super flippy
@ArmoryDiscGolf
@ArmoryDiscGolf Год назад
Thanks 👊 Obviously that depends on arm speed yada yada yada, but in general I'd recommend the Lone Star Curl- we describe them to people as "pre-beat wraiths". A step up in stability from that (but still just under a wraith imo) is their new Nimitz- video on that is dropping tomorrow 😉 Have you tried either of those?
@calebdyer6332
@calebdyer6332 Год назад
@@ArmoryDiscGolf I haven’t tried those. I’ve actually never tried lone star but I want to have as many brands as possible in my bag so that’d be perfect.
@ArmoryDiscGolf
@ArmoryDiscGolf Год назад
@@calebdyer6332 well we've got a few of both. Use code "nicksentme" for 15% off 😉
@ArmoryDiscGolf
@ArmoryDiscGolf Год назад
@@calebdyer6332 oh, we've got a Lone Star order coming in today that'll have several more Curls if you want to wait and see some different colors
@kylekrazylegsmorgan2225
@kylekrazylegsmorgan2225 Год назад
My understable is a Mamba and my most overstable is a full tilt.
@ArmoryDiscGolf
@ArmoryDiscGolf Год назад
Haha you've got the full range covered
@ninerknight5351
@ninerknight5351 Год назад
Sorry I’m new to disc golf but is a spike hyzer a hyzer throw that is thrown high?
@neverlayup
@neverlayup Год назад
yes
@ArmoryDiscGolf
@ArmoryDiscGolf Год назад
Typically thrown high, but really it's about angle out of the hand (very steep hyzer)- notice how those shots came out at something like a 75°angle. Good question 👍
@ninerknight5351
@ninerknight5351 Год назад
I guess I accidentally do this all the time because I’m a noob and tend to release too high often.
@neverlayup
@neverlayup Год назад
@@ninerknight5351 I did that for the first couple months too. Someone told me to put more pressure on the disc with my thumb and that seemed to help.
@deepintheheartofdiscgolf
@deepintheheartofdiscgolf Год назад
Heyyyyy this is Audubon right? Love that course
@ArmoryDiscGolf
@ArmoryDiscGolf Год назад
It is! Great course, probably my most played in the area
@deepintheheartofdiscgolf
@deepintheheartofdiscgolf Год назад
@Armory Disc Golf oh yeah it has a few crusher holes and some great precision shots. We gotta get a round in down there sometime!
@patturcotte5465
@patturcotte5465 9 месяцев назад
When you showed the numbers on the under stable disc, the last two numbers are -1, 1. Isn't that a neutral disc? Wouldn't an under stable disc have a higher number for fade than the turn number?
@ArmoryDiscGolf
@ArmoryDiscGolf 9 месяцев назад
Typically, yes. The first run of Lariats were wayyy more understable than their numbers indicated and I used to recommend them for beginners. Lone Star has since corrected the mold and they fly true to flight numbers now, so don't pick one up expecting it to fly like this one did haha (I would say this one flew like 9, 5, -3, 1, for reference)
@closer2theheart684
@closer2theheart684 Год назад
No more than I play and having a lack of decent courses, I throw nothing but understable discs. I'm also 55 years old and I just prefer not having to crank on a disc to get it to fly far. I get better flights with my understable discs. The only disc I prefer to have a little more stability, is my mid-range.
@ArmoryDiscGolf
@ArmoryDiscGolf Год назад
Not having to crank on a disc is so underrated, too- it's so nice to get a smooth throw and watch an understable disc just glide through the air. That's one of the things that kept me coming back to disc gold when I first started and is still very pleasing haha
@andreasericsson6989
@andreasericsson6989 Год назад
Actually, understable discs go farther than overstable discs because their glide is predominantly produced by Bernoulli's principle and the Coandă effect (air is being accelerated down around the rim of the disc from the top, creating a downward force which by Newton's third law causes an equal and opposite upward force, as well as lower pressure on top of the flight plate, which causes the disc to want to rise - more so at the back end of the disc, which causes the left side of the wingplate to rise and the disc to turn right for RHBH throws). Overstable discs predominantly produce glide by deflecting air downwards from the front of the rim, which by Newton's third law causes the disc to be pushed upwards (and the nose and right side of the disc to rise for RH/BH throws). To be fair though, every disc does a little bit of both. Except the Tilt. The Tilt has practically no glide contributed by the Coandă effect, which is why it's impossible to throw it further than about 150ft. That's because it will start fading/crashing if the disc is thrown hard enough to still travel forward by the time spin decreases to the point where the nose-deflection force overcomes the gyroscopic stability. But if you *could* throw the tilt with something like 100000RPM spin, it still wouldn't go as far as an understable disc thrown with the same armspeed, simply because the glide produced by air deflection is directly proportional to the amount of drag the air deflection produces, whereas the Coandă effect adds just a fraction of that same drag to produce the same amount of lift.
@ArmoryDiscGolf
@ArmoryDiscGolf Год назад
Sir, this is a Wendy's
@ArmoryDiscGolf
@ArmoryDiscGolf Год назад
Fr though, that's cool 👍
@StwongDave
@StwongDave Год назад
@@ArmoryDiscGolf Subbed
@holdinitdowninptown
@holdinitdowninptown Год назад
Don't tell me what to do, you're not my real dad.
@ArmoryDiscGolf
@ArmoryDiscGolf Год назад
Far as you know 🤷‍♂️
@bardenheier
@bardenheier Год назад
But the Lariat is a stable disc, not understable.
@ArmoryDiscGolf
@ArmoryDiscGolf Год назад
I chat about this at 2:46 👍
@aarontapatio2257
@aarontapatio2257 4 месяца назад
You just called the Boss a really understable, yeah in your bra wtf bro has no idea what he's talking about😂😂😂
@ArmoryDiscGolf
@ArmoryDiscGolf 4 месяца назад
Not sure that I even understand the second half of that sentence, but the Bosses Wiggins and Lizotte threw to set the distance record were Blizzard plastic in the 130 class... so yes, they were understable
@jgcalc
@jgcalc Год назад
Good point about the fade and the fact that an understable disc can actually fade further than an overstable disc that just dives down and doesn't glide out.
@jgcalc
@jgcalc Год назад
Something that kind of irks me............when people say " stable" and they should say over stable. To me, you have overstable and understable . So stable would be more neutral. However all these disc golf guys say stable when talking about overstable. Is that what you mean when you say stable? Is really overstable?
@ArmoryDiscGolf
@ArmoryDiscGolf Год назад
I tend to use "stable" when referring to overstable discs. I view stability as a spectrum, so I'll often say things like "That disc isn't very stable" as an equivalent to "that disc is kind of understable" or "man, that disc is REALLY stable" as an equivalent to overstability. I tend to use the word "neutral" or "straight" when referring to discs that don't turn/fade much
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