Why you're WRONG about Season 5 of The Wire

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The Wire is HBO’s gritty and realistic depiction of the Baltimore drug scene, told from the viewpoint of both the cops and the criminals. It is considered by many to be greatest television show ever made.
However, for various reasons, season 5 of The Wire is considered by many to be a disappointment, a step down from the usual high quality of The Wire. Today I wanted to offer a defence of season 5 of The Wire, and argue why it isn't as bad as people make out.
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@rogueprince1341 Год назад

Say what you want about season 5. They did one thing right without a doubt, and that was Bubs being allowed upstairs for dinner.

@elephantseal4585 Год назад

That part always made me happy, one of the few happy endings in an extremely dark show

@FallicIdol 9 месяцев назад

I was so happy to see that. I hope he manages to stay clean.

@BoleDaPole 7 месяцев назад

I enjoyed season 5, they really portrayed the city and characters in a very Dickensian sort of way. Just wish they leaned a bit more into the Dickensian aspect a bit more just to push it home.

@purplerider2362 6 месяцев назад

@@FallicIdolyou know it’s not real right?

@mikelomez9313 Месяц назад

@@FallicIdolHate to be the bearer of bad news but I saw Bubs down on the corner the other day and he was definitely using 😁

@Memoquin Год назад

All seasons of The Wire are fantastic. Didn’t know this was a common view for Season 5.

@boiling_snow_water_ Год назад

It's usually people that don't understand the influence of the media that hate this season.

@jplonsdale7242 Год назад

I loved it all. Only watched it all once but I thought every season was great

@monteellis4436 Год назад

I did think it was much more heavy handed than other seasons but the thing is, it's only a fall off compared to the Wire. For pretty much every other show, it would be their best season and most realistic.

@antwesten8283 Год назад

It's not a common Season 2 was trash everyone knows it It's not universal lol wtf is he talking Everyone hates season 2 season 5 was good

@charlesspeaksthetruth4334 Год назад

@@boiling_snow_water_ Facts 👏👏.

@PedroRodriguez-bw2ow Год назад

When Mcnulty starts setting up the first body in front of Bunk I was so shocked. They threw the whole show out the window right there. That scene surprised me so much and made me feel super excited to see what was coming. It was so wild.

@IronHeel Год назад

The cycle continues... Dukie is Bubbles, Michael is Omar, Carver is Daniels

@xxbobsetsfirexx4269 Год назад

The serial killer story is out there..but the way they show its application in the investigation..and what they have to do to get it to work..is brilliant..

@chrisdraughn5941 Год назад

Season 5 had the best rendition of the theme song.

@PaidTheCost88 3 месяца назад

They want season 5 to be one way, but its the other way

@erics362 Год назад

If Hamsterdam was possible, why not a fake serial killer?

@vanmantalks Год назад

tho it was never put into practice hamsterdam was actually proposed by a previous Baltimore mayor in the late 80s which is where David Simon got the idea from

@erics362 Год назад

@@vanmantalks 🤓

@leamanc Год назад

Sorry, didn’t convince me. It’s so bad that it kinda ruins the whole series for me.

@somiariopusunju174 Год назад

“Worst” is too harsh. “Least awesome” sounds more accurate.

@magnificentuniverse2283 Год назад

Another great video bro!

@myronsanders4563 Год назад

The only thing that has aged well about the Final Season is that you can look at the journalist aspect of the plot line and blurt out "Fake News". You basically pointed out all the things wrong about the 5th Season: Bad writing, uninteresting plot lines, 1 demisional characters, over the top storylines, and felt rushed. It's only saving grave was the smaller stories (Mike & Dukie, Omar vs Marlo, Bubbles etc.) And the Final montage that shows that nothing really changes in life, only thing that really changes are the faces of the people but the same story gets told over again But yea, The Wire S5 was a weak Season. A very Weak Season. It's not like Season 2 where the criticism was because the Cops/Criminals story arc was replaced with Dock Workers. And repeat viewings actually revealed a much bigger story that needed to be told. This was a simply rushed Season for a Series that deserved much better

@nworbrelytthefirst Год назад

I always loved this season. Maybe a bit far fetched, but people act like this show is a fucking documentary.

@CozumelTy Год назад

I actually loved season 2. But the Serial killer storyline in season 5 threw me (Though its no more crazy than Hamperdam in season 3 or the duck in season 2). Season 4 is my fav though. This review of season 5 is going to make me go back and watch it over.

@squeezycakes Год назад

people who think 5 was weak didn't understand the show at all - they failed as viewers

@sunnohh Год назад

It is my favorite season, that and season 2 - the writer with a heart of gold actually works because his task so sisyphian and results so ineffective

@kemperboyd1209 Год назад

You're awful!

@luisd7636 Год назад

great season. the main reason ppl complain is the serial killer storyline but it didn't bother me enough to say its not good. best show ever.

@claytonman31 6 месяцев назад

As ridiculous as all the serial killer stuff is, if you fast forward through all the interminable insufferable newspaper journalist scenes, season 5 is ok

@cgrooney9945 Год назад

I still think season 2 is the worst...I've watched the series 3 complete times but I skipped season 2 twice

@Freshwaterboy Год назад

The way they took out Omar SUCKED!!!!!!!!

@SuperWeedPower 7 месяцев назад

Im gonna be honest, I've skipped all of the press and politics povs on season 5, I couldn't care less I just wanted to see the gansgtas and cops pov

@aymacaymacunt814 Год назад

Tbh the FBI profiling scene alone makes the serial killer storyline worth it.

@robert-ys6en Год назад

That shit made me laugh so hard (I just finished the wire for first time)

@Nsdus5676 3 дня назад

I laughed my ass off when they were sitting there basically describing McNulty 😂😂😂😂

@patorjk Год назад

You outlined pretty well my problems with season 5, though I primarily disliked the serial killer storyline. However, I didn't hate the season, I just felt it was a mixed bag. One of its bright points is that it had an excellent ending for the series. So many shows can't stick the landing, but the Wire had a beautiful ending. I think that's one of the reasons the show is still so highly regarded today.

@TheChiefpokishi Год назад

I always felt that the reason McNulty and Freamon were willing to create a fake Serial Killer was because they had finally reached their breaking point. McNulty was a patrolman and happy in his relationship with Beadie, not chasing big cases. But after Bodie's death he comes back on the team with a complete vengeance. Freamon is still running the Wire and now he feels the discovery of the bodies will finally be the push to come back at Marlo and get his off the streets but bureaucracy puts a stop to that: he can't believe all those bodies aren't enough to get the higher ups to do the right thing. They are at their wits end and it seems Marlo is going to win. These men who are so rooted in their ideals they decide to throw them away when they have a chance to "make things right" and attempt to nail Marlo. The ends justify the means. It's for the greater good. Would these two men normally do something like this? Of course not, I don't believe any of us would think otherwise. Could they do this if they were somehow pushed to? Under some extraordinary circumstances? "I don't know, but everyman has his breaking point." - Shawshank Redemption

@Shank5ter 10 месяцев назад

The serial killer storyline is already ongoing when Bodie dies

@saccoli4919 9 месяцев назад

@@Shank5terbodie dies end of season 4 serial killer starts season 5. Mcnulty isn’t even on homicide when bodie dies

@aryankaushik93 Год назад

The fake news plotline is even more relevant now

@Micolashcage1 Год назад

thats how ridiculous reality is in recent years. It would be considered bad writing if it were fiction

@Bigdiego74 Год назад

On my mama and my daddy

@kemperboyd1209 Год назад

Nope.

@CollaredConsulting Год назад

The corruption in Baltimore is WORSE in reality than the show

@BaronSaturday66 Год назад

RIP Lance Reddick

@LeviAckerman-cb5ji Год назад

The character arc of Bubbles by itself makes season 5 totally underrated.

@fureyhiggins3289 Год назад

The best scene of the series had to be Bubbles walking up the basement stairs and joining his sister and niece.

@57hound Год назад

@@fureyhiggins3289 Yes, that was such an emotional scene. So happy to see Bubbles end up reconnected with his family-probably the most uplifting character arc of the entire series

@raymondsims7042 Год назад

@@fureyhiggins3289 yeah bubbles is one of the most underrated tv characters ever. He was a brilliantly written character

@chuckiebrownbfly Год назад

Let's hope Dukie come in that circle and not Johnny's.

@raymondsims7042 Год назад

@@chuckiebrownbfly hopefully lad man dukies ending in the show is heartbreaking 🤦‍♂️

@Cbart23 Год назад

Alma didn’t quit. She got moved to a different, less important desk out in the county because she spoke up against Scott. FYI.

@keithharper1470 Год назад

The bosses knew there was smoke that Scott was lying but they wanted that Pulitzer no matter what so they couldn't fire Alma they put her in the pawn shop

@Cbart23 Год назад

I always liked season two of the wire because it ties so much into the drug trade with “the connect” and a different side of Baltimore.

@johnpederson5873 Год назад

Seeing prop joe driving into the gate connecting the docks to the rest of the show was mind blowing.

@deb8911 Год назад

RIP Lance Reddick. We need a vid to say goodbye. I think Lt. Daniels had the most moral dilemmas of anyone on the show. Only The Deuce, another Simon/Pelecanos production, had a better ending and I’d argue, the best ending of any show on TV.

@bellamaz1972 Год назад

I’d love to see The Deuce and Treme get more love.

@deb8911 Год назад

@@bellamaz1972 me too!

@SMW34 Год назад

The biggest issue of Season 5 is the absence of Ed Burns for much of the season. There's a nuance he brought to the writers room that was really missing through much of the season and it was apparent as the characters became more cliche than character.

@claudewashington5247 4 месяца назад

It's funny that Ed Burns had minimal writing in the season but that's when the serial killer concept comes

@tigerleoneinc.9282 5 месяцев назад

Kima was never a character I liked. Her ratting out McNulty just took that dislike to the next level.

@SJReid82 Год назад

I actually really liked season 5. Having gone to journalism school and having once had an interest in possibly pursuing both journalism and policing as a career at various times of my life, I appreciated the show for showing the relationship between the press and law enforcement. Plus, one of my favorite movies is Zodiac and that movie very much establishes a similar rapport (or lack thereof in many cases) between the two institutions. So I'd even go as far as saying season 5 was probably my favorite season just narrowly edging out season 4. all in all, a great show. There really was not a single bad season.

@BaronSaturday66 Год назад

I enjoyed Season 5 too. It's at least 90% as good as the others.

@NickolasNameolas Год назад

The sensationalized serial killer stuff was also an expression of frustration from the writers. Shows like Dexter and Deadwood were getting a lot more attention at the time and the Wire took direct shots at both of them in dialogue on the show. McNulty doing something sensational out of frustration was a metaphor for how the writers felt while they were telling that story. It’s one a them meta narratives.

@doscassette871 Год назад

shit never thought of that good perspective on it. I also assumed it was in general about how police are often frustrated by the publics interest in certain high profile crimes that really aren't worth anything but completely ignore or attack the police for going after much less glamorous but arguably more important work.

@Jurgan6 Год назад

I caught the dog at Dexter, didn’t notice a reference to Deadwood (which I have not seen).

@ajae... Год назад

He covered that in the video, and has an entire one devoted to the Deadwood scene. Both have been written about a lot.

@NickolasNameolas 11 месяцев назад

@@CircuitRider you just projected your opinion onto Simon like you know him personally or something. Extraordinary.

@NickolasNameolas 11 месяцев назад

@@CircuitRider Yeah, no. I never named him. I never even said either show was bad myself. Only that they were both more sensational than the Wire and got more attention as a result. I think you're one of those people who sees an attack on your taste as an attack on you personally, even though I didn't attack Deadwood. Please be more chill.

@blimy01maynard30 Год назад

In terms of the McNulty serial killer angle, I used to think it was a little too out there. But then I remembered when Bunk said to McNulty that he was going to get caught. Bushy Top said "who TF is going to catch me?" I wholeheartedly believe that no one would catch him. Like he said, the city ignored real serial killers in Marlo, Chris, and Snoop. They wouldn't allow even one detective to work on the case. So his thinking is sound. Look at the other examples. In season 1, Bunk and McNulty had re-do the Deirdre Kresson murder scene because the original detective wrote like a page and a half then put it in a file never to be seen again. A detective couldn't be bothered to look more thoroughly into the murder of a young woman. In season 2, we see multiple departments trying their hardest not to be assigned the murders of those girls in the boat. Rawls practically backflipped when he thought he pushed the case off to another department. Leaderships of entire departments wanted nothing to do with trying to solve the murder of 20 women. In season 4, Freamon went to Landsman and said there are who-knows how many dozens of dead people are rotting in vacant row houses and Landsman took that information and sat on it. He didn't tell anyone. There were corpuses decaying in the city and a police sergeant kept it a secret. So I agree with McNulty. Who in that police department has the time or the inclination to look into this?

@Tjaty Год назад

This is exactly what I thought. The show went out of its way to give us *several* examples of the police desperately trying to avoid doing their jobs.

@sayhello2heaven_ Год назад

Seriously, I just thought it was the ultimate statement of horribly incompetent that police department is after showing us smaller examples all throughout the rest of the series.

@erics362 Год назад

This video should have focused on the Dickensean aspect of The Wire. 😂

@mrleelee6478 14 дней назад

Underrated comment

@Newwave12 Год назад

Season 3 is my favorite season of all time

@raymondsims7042 Год назад

Season 3 was brilliant but season 4 maybe the best season of any show ever🤷‍♂️

@Arsolon618 Год назад

As you said, The Wire serves as a prequel to itself. Structurally the entire 5 seasons is cyclical, but it puts the end of one cycle and the beginning of the next at the midpoint of the show, season 3, instead of at the end. S3 is where the mouth of the Ourobouros meets the tail. Its amazing to watch play out, and I think its another reason S3 and S4 are so strong. In the hands of another writing team S3 and S4 would have been S1 and S2, showing the rise of a drug crew and the beginning of all these cycles first, but The Wire's structure makes it so much more interesting.

@rustykuntz94 Год назад

Bubbles Redemption still gets me, a true happy ending where you never thought was possible. Up until that moment I was Sure his final arc would be dead with a needle in his arm

@TheJohnnyCotts Год назад

Agreed. After all he went through in S4, no one would blame him if he did. Instead, it wound up being a wake-up call for him to take charge and get his life on track.

@crumblybutgood3545 Год назад

Having just binged the whole show for the first time I can say that most of the common complaints about S5 were apparent, but it's a still a very good season of TV. The more outlandish elements irked me as they were happening but I think they played out ok by the end of it (though it is a bit lazy how an actual killer ends up in their lap). Some of the dialogue was also uncharacteristically shoddy at times, particularly some of the justification for exposition. That specifically made me question if there were changes in the writer's room but those moments were mostly few and far between. As an aside it absolutely baffles me that people were/are down on S2. I can see at how it might be jarring at first but it's sooo good once it gets going. Frank Sobotka might be my favourite character of the whole show.

@FiveOFilms Год назад

I remember watching these episodes during the first run and I found some of the moments to be incredibly fun because they were doing something so audacious in having McNulty and Lester do something so audacious. I loved the scene where McNulty meets with the Sun editorial team and we know that McNulty knows that the reporter is lying while McNulty lies to the whole room and the reporter looks so confused because he knows he made the stuff up. The scene where Lester goes along with McNulty's crazy plan is also great... because it is so unexpected... but is also makes sense because Lester has stuck it to the bosses before. There was also a small scene where after McNulty is doling out overtime for detectives to work other cases that he declines the overtime for one guy. You can just see that McNulty is now having to be like the bosses he always hated. And, after Kima tells the bosses, there is a great scene where Lester is somewhat puzzled why they are "not in cuffs" yet. He and McNulty are getting a sense how conspiratorial things are at the top because the bosses and Carcetti are trying to figure out how to spin things. And, as the video points out, there is the amazing moment when Rawls says to McNulty something like, "Please tell me you are not killing them yourself. Season 5 is weird... but it is so enjoyable to see all these people stretched to their limit. And, as the video says, the Hamsterdam "legalize drugs" story line is less realistic than cops faking evidence. 😀

@caseyhart4999 Год назад

I gotta say I laugh out loud every time Rawls says that line

@GrapPro Год назад

As a journalism graduate I always loved season five while being aware of its legitimate criticism. Gus was necessary for us journalism types. We needed a hero. We still do.

@gregoryporch8395 Год назад

I liked the journalism angle and thought it was spot on. The newsroom prioritized sensational stories over accurate reporting and that's true to life. I didn't think the characters were unrealistic at all, people in real life work very hard at gossip having an impact over objective truth.

@smelltheglove2038 6 месяцев назад

Journalism is one of the most damaging professions in this country. Journalists and lawyers are destroying us. Especially corporate journalism. Zero integrity, zero honesty, they have no objection whatsoever about lying to the public to protect their ideology, no matter how obviously corrupt.

@Zseventyone Год назад

I'm gonna check this out later, but I'm having a hard time imagining how you're going to get me to your conclusion. Update: I didn’t get there. Too far fetched.

@insuchaway Год назад

Season 5 had the closing montage, a montage so beautiful that it brought a tear to my eye. Clay Davis took the stand, finally. Rawls finally got to have a moment with McNulty. "My name is my name!" S5 had its moments; again, the ending montage made me emotional. I can't be unbiased. -edit- Perlman visits Levy Dukie falling off Marlo meets Avon .... That final montage...

@JayCity10 Год назад

It's become my favorite season.

@vanmantalks Год назад

I never had a problem with the serial killer story line. For me it showed that Jimmy and Leister had come to their final limit with the Baltimore police corruption when even 100s of dead bodies didnt warrant real investigation. They proved that Marlo as a serial killer was not worth there attention but a sensationalised news worthy serial killer was

@isaiahdaddys9379 Год назад

Season 5 had its highlights. Avon/Marlo meet, Prop Joe’s death, Mike killing Snoop and Rawls railing Jimmy over the fake killer come to mind.

@isaiahdaddys9379 Год назад

Can’t forget Slim Charles capping Cheese either.

@JayCity10 Год назад

I will watch Season 5 over anything on TV right now. It's my favorite season anyway.

@urabusxrw04 Год назад

Was kinda shocked at the premise that mcnulty went too far. Think about the state of constant failures he has with family, sobriety, the police department: I don’t think he went too far, I think he doesn’t give a s*** anymore and has had it with rules.

@monadreher2428 Год назад

This. And all of this. McNulty has always been portrayed as a rogue figure who goes against the status quo of the system so I never once thought it was out his character to pull the stunt that he pulls. Lester is definitely more debatable but even so we see the frustration that consumes him and eventually leads to him siding with McNulty. They basically took the same route as Colvin took in Season 3 which was screw the rules I'm doing what *I* think is right.

@urabusxrw04 Год назад

@@monadreher2428 speaking of season 3, I like unhinged don’t give a fuck mcnulty more than fake smile sober mcnulty. At least he’s somewhat happy season 5.

@monadreher2428 Год назад

@@urabusxrw04 Lmaoooo I feel you from an entertainment outlook but I really did love Season 4 McNulty (if that's the fake smile version of him you're referring to) a lot. He was happy and actually enjoying and having a life. It's why his Season 5 character arc is tragic because that's when McNulty is at his absolute worst even though he's fighting for a just cause.

@urabusxrw04 Год назад

@@monadreher2428 yes season 4 but didn’t he seem kinda… neutered to you? Like he had an outward smile but I felt he hated himself on the inside.

@monadreher2428 Год назад

@@urabusxrw04 Well I mean him being "neutered" was the point of his character arc in Season 4. And no not to me at all. The scenes where Bunk is trying to get McNulty back into the fold before ultimately accepting that his old partner in crime has genuinely changed kind of negate that thought tbh. Hell even McNulty's ex wife is surprised and impressed by the new him. He was literally the happiest he had ever been in Season 4 compared to how he was characterized in the first three seasons.

@boiling_snow_water_ Год назад

Season 5 was my low-key fav because it shows how big of a role the media plays in keeping the status quo, rather than reporting on news.

@jasminehill6312 Год назад

The only plot that kind of diminishes season 5 to me is the newspaper. Although, I still struggle with whether or not I really believe that McNulty would go that far. David Simon said that Freeman and McNulty were two men that had been told no their entire careers.

@ndogg20 Год назад

Having a shorter season meant the writers had to wind up all the points of the whole series and drive home its meanings. The meaning being how lives are spent either trying to make a difference or just go along with the system. Cops like McNulty becoming zealots and criminals like Avon and Marlo trying to stay on top or move up to the top. And all for nothing. Everything everyone put their lives work into crumbles apart and it all begins again with new players as if the original players never existed. Season 5 was winding down the series from its first episode. And on that note, taken as whole story and not an individual season it succeeded well. Also, what's really overlooked is the final few minutes of the last episode that is devastating in its own subtle way. The best of any series ending in my opinion

@beneslick3001 Год назад

Great video! It seems like lots of people misunderstand the meta element of season 5. I like that you pointed out the need for the show to sensationalize it’s storyline to stay funded, which in turn caused the writers to create a more original social commentary then just the run of the mill “gritty realism”. It may not have been what fans wanted or were expecting but The Wire was never interested in that. It was much more interested in challenging norms and debunking the systems that control our lives. On that level, season 5 accomplishes exactly what it sets out to do with some minor flaws here and there.

@slthjawa5062gggghhjjjjjkkkk Год назад

People didn't misunderstand. Just because something is done doesn't mean it was done well and season 5 is still ridiculous and poorly crafted.

@themysteryguy85 Год назад

@@slthjawa5062gggghhjjjjjkkkk it’s like an 8.5/10. Definitely the worst season of the show but it’s not bad by any means

@kemperboyd1209 Год назад

It is a bad season

@themysteryguy85 Год назад

@@kemperboyd1209 too bad, still the best show of all time

@raymondsims7042 Год назад

@@kemperboyd1209it’s not a bad season by any means

@shawnmoney8055 Год назад

Season 5 was great, but it’s hard to get us to get into the News room characters. The really should of did the hospital

@Alejandro1313sixx Год назад

Newsroom scenes allowed me to close my eyes for a few minutes

@VanirTraditionalist Год назад

History has indeed been kind to Season 2, as a lot of fans have come around to recognize its brilliance, but I don’t see it as overrated. A good chunk of viewers still consider it weak (which blows my mind). And don’t get me started on Frank Sobotka, the most underrated character in the entire series. But to your question about Season 5. Picking the weakest season of The Wire for me is like picking the weakest Beatles album. They’re all five star but one has to be the least great. I’d probably have to go with Season 5 for a lot of the reasons mentioned. A little far fetched and cliched at times, felt like they were running out of steam.

@mlwtennessee322 Год назад

Agree completely!

@J.B.Martin 6 месяцев назад

S5 is the FUNNIEST - my favorite scenes are bunk and mcnultys interactions. The fbi profile scene was EPIC “they’re in the ballpark”

@TenThumbsProductions Год назад

I just watched The Wire for the 3rd time and it almost felt like you were talking to me. This time around I actually found myself loving season 2 haha. Season 5... why 10 episodes? Making it shorter also made the whole season feel, well, sloppy, like the were squeezing a square into a circle.

@isaiahdaddys9379 Год назад

Scott really got under my skin as the season went on.

@JayCity10 Год назад

That was the idea. He was a piece of crap, a great villain.

@isaiahdaddys9379 Год назад

@@JayCity10 finally someone else appreciates his character

@frankmatthews6966 11 месяцев назад

Defense of season 5: clay davis, bubbles story arcs. Also a few great moments: *Jimmy's retirement party *cheese getting killed *Avon meeting Marlo * Omar's death & toe tag * season 5 finale montage...

@1badMucker Год назад

The Wire is one of my favorite HBO series of all-time and I can say with 100% confidence that season 5 is the absolute worst. I intentionally avoid it when I revisit the show. If there were an all-time worse seasons list it would be up there with season 8 of GOT. It's that bad. It's a shame since it has one of my favorite scenes from the show. Marlo's, "My name is my name" is one of the realist lines of the show. So, it's not like season 5 has no redeeming qualities but as a whole it's a waste of time. IMO it's not just comparatively bad to the other seasons of the show - it's just bad TV.

@Victor-Vargas Год назад

Something insane, I've seen The Wire four times now and have only gotten through two episodes of season 5 (on the second watch) and something about the ending of season 4, although it didn't wrap up everything I felt satisfied where everything ending it was arguably hopeful. I am now on my 5th watch , this time with my roommate so I think in a month or two I will have officially finished The Wire and I'm pretty sure I won't love season 5 the way I loved every other season I have mentally kind of told myself that season 5 is an epilogue

@Cbart23 Год назад

It’s all in my notes, Gus!!!!!!! 😮

@ajbianchi85 Год назад

Slim Charles is one of my favorite characters and he ends up being one of the big winners of season 5

@jeffbrownme2 Год назад

I personally loved season 5 and never felt like the quality went down. The newspaper fake serial killer thing was super compelling and at times hilarious. I think David simon, the creator of the wire, said it best when he felt the hampsterdam plotline of season 3 was way more unrealistic than McNulty's serial killer plot. That required an entire precinct to keep its mouth shut. Season 5 only involved like three people. Once it got to four or five someone snitched and it all blew up. One thing I will say was a bit underwhelming in season 5 was Onar's arc. He seemed like he got a bit desperate by the end to get Marlo. His tactic to force Marlo to the streets wasn't working. Omar from previous seasons would have regrouped and spent time healing after narrowly escaping the apartment trap. He was a very patient man at times, spending weeks on stakeouts for the perfect moment. Season 5 Omar didn't seem to have any patience.

@avonbarksdale91 7 месяцев назад

Neither did McNulty and Lester.

@WarrenCornwallis Год назад

Pls, review NEW WORLD Korean movie. It needs explanation & carefully examined of how the plot turns out

@Alejandro1313sixx Год назад

The Omar vs marlo thing never getting played out upsets me so much.

@joelashadali 3 месяца назад

People always sh*t on season 2. I think it's better than 5

@johnbakker4828 Год назад

How my hair look, CR?

@Ahmedkhan8802 Год назад

I have watched the entire five seasons of The Wire 10 times - it never gets old for me. I regarded Season 5 as the weakest after its first broadcast, mostly because it seemed too compressed compared with the other seasons, partly because the fake serial killer bit seemed a bit of a stretch for a show of this caliber. Over time and repeated viewings I have come to have a warmer regard for S5, for many of the reasons you've outlined. And the press is a crucial part of our society. And this season has numerous "circle closers": 1. In S1 Herc and Carver test D'Angelo's pager, with Carver doing a fake Korean accent (Herc: "Sounded Chinese." Carver: Like you can fuckin' tell the difference."); in S5, Lester tests Marlo's number by pretending he's calling a BBQ joint number. 2. In S1 McNulty pilfers his upstairs neighbor's newspaper; in S5 McNulty pilfers a paper from the stand. 3. In S1 McNulty grouses out loud about the useless humps Polk and Mahone - "I wonder what you have to do to get fired from the Baltimore Police Department" - Kima replies, "Keep pulling some of your shit and you just might find out"; in S5, Kima delivers on that earlier remark by reporting him to Daniels. For many a TV series the final season is the weakest; I feel this way about The Wire, but this series is so superb that S5 is still first-rate. Omar forever!

@kemperboyd1209 Год назад

Season 5 is terrible and if you have to make a "Well, Ackshully" Explainer video about how it's secretly good, that means it isn't.

@raymondsims7042 Год назад

Naw season 5 was very good🤷‍♂️it just might be the weakest in the wire. That’s simply because the wire is the best show ever made, so even at its worst it’s still phenomenal

@LLlap Год назад

Not being up to par with the Legendary status all other seasons have and yet being extremely good is not a blemish.

@gremliaden Год назад

The worst part about the Wire is there's not enough Avon.

@maniac50ae14 Год назад

"Nothing but love for my S5 ngas"😂

@TRontheLegacy Год назад

I think of it like this, there is no such thing as a bad season of the wire, but I would say that season five is the weakest season because there were so many misses that they could’ve touched on, I read somewhere that Randy was supposed to find out that Cheese was his father, but there wasn’t enough space due to it only been 10 episodes for them to show that. Also, the newspaper and serial killer plots, you’re right I just can’t wrap my head around those two storylines but the side story lines which in my opinion should’ve been the main storylines were still really good.

@broaddusmarines Год назад

I think the Wire is one of the five greatest shows in television history. That being said, I think Breaking Bad is the greatest television show ever made. Whenever I get in debates with people that think the Wire is the greatest show ever made, I throw out Season 2 and Season 5 of the Wire. There aren’t any seasons on Breaking Bad that have to be “Wiresplained”.

@monadreher2428 Год назад

But...wait though? How do Seasons 2 and 5 of The Wire dethrone it though? Neither of those seasons are bad seasons of television at all. Not in the slightest. And they're both highly acclaimed seasons. Just because people subjectively didn't like or enjoy watching them doesn't equal terrible seasons of TV. Both seasons have merrits that can very heavily be argued as to why they stand out so much within the televised medium. This is a fact. There are people who definitely think Breaking Bad legit doesn't get good until it's last two seasons (I'm not one of those people as I was hooked from Season 1 tbh) despite all of the seasons being very entertaining and very distinctive in their own way and each season growing in intensity. Breaking Bad is my favorite show of all time, number 3 on my personal list but objectively I could never put it higher than The Wire. The ambition that that series even sets out for within its storyline alone puts it above BB for me and again I LOVE BB with all my heart and soul chile. We might possibly gain another BB in the future that may be able to equal its predecessor or be become as popular as it (hell you could possibly make that argument even now with Ozark now that I think about it) but I highly doubt we will ever in this lifetime get another "The Wire" which is why the series is and remains so timeless. Not to mention the ever continuing existing relevance this series is *still" bringing two decades after it first premiered. Also not to mention how this series can develop or change individual insights (this also still now mind you) on how we as a society view or understand things due to its sheer complexity and depth. I'm not saying that having more depth or complexity automatically makes any story top tier but with The Wire it's done beautifully as it is a show that rewards its viewers for how much you 're willing to pay attention to the story and challenges the viewer at their own personal look at society. The rewatch value alone...I think that literally speaks for itself. That for me just simply hasn't been topped yet.

@Ar1AnX1x Год назад

south of the border where rudolfo plays

@MrTomlette Год назад

It's certainly the funniest/most entertaining season for me, but for the same reasons other people don't like it. As someone who prefers Sopranos over The Wire, the 5th season is the closest to a more experimental/surreal style like the one in the Sopranos, and the faster pace made the show more enjoyable. The downside is that you can tell the journalist characters seemed more black and white than in previous seasons due to lack of time to make them more nuanced, and it's really hard to reconcile the central storyline with the tone of previous seasons, even though the Hamsterdam story was an obvious precedent.

@raymondsims7042 Год назад

What’s your top ten tv shows mate? For me it’s 1. The wire (hands down the best show ever made) 2. Game of thrones 3. Mr Robot 4. Dark 5. The boys 6. Breaking bad 7. Succession 8 stranger things 9. Sopranos 10. Better call Saul tied with Mad Men

@mwenvlay Год назад

um, the reporter's name is ALMA, not alba.

@alainsemaine9897 Год назад

It was too rushed - only 10 episodes.

@Jurgan6 Год назад

There’s a great cameo by Nancy Grace as herself where she interviews Scott and helps spread his sensationalist crime stories. She apparently didn’t realize she represented everything season 5 was criticizing. The other great cameo was Richard Belzer, who played Munch on Simon’s other show, Homicide (and many other series such as SVU as well).

@Nsdus5676 3 дня назад

I looked to deep dive or quasi deep dive look into the world of newspapers and journalism. It’s a huge inter working of any major city and has its ties to politics, the police department, etc.etc. These “municipal” workers if you will all know each other. I looked seeing the dynamic play out

@cdub828 Год назад

It was hard to get through the serial killer bit at first but then when these fools started calling reporters and kidnapping homeless people it just became completely hilarious. I loved this season. And so gangster. Avon essentially put a hit out on Prop Joe hooking Marlo up with the connect. Payback for Stringer

@kyledavis5634 Год назад

Where to begin ? 1 I thought it was real corny how they allowed marlo to kill Joe so easy . 2 I thought it was real corny how Chris did not stand up to marlo about Michael . If Chris would have stood up to marlo about him thinking michael was a rat then snoop would not have gotten killed . She only got killed because michael was smart enough to figure it out they were setting him up to get killed . 3 I dont like how after joe got killed no body went to war with marlo after that . 4 I dont like how after marlo got bodie killed slim charles was still cool with marlo and his crew after that . 5 I dont like how they let greggs who was real cool with mcnulty end up being the one who turned on him and end up ratting on him . Why even allow jimmy to tell her ? 6 I definitely think the sun paper and fake serial killer angles were really lame .

@michaelcorcoran8768 Год назад

I mean slim Charles wasn't cool with them. Just didn't have the muscle to go to war. He did eventually execute cheese. Who was at that point the power behind the organization. He just had to wait until it was expedient. I also think you not liking a plot point doesn't mean it's a bad plot point.." why didn't Christopher stand up to him? Marlo about Michael?. " Because he was ultimately way more loyal tomorrow than anyone else. Hence him serving a life in prison with no possibility of parole.

@kyledavis5634 Год назад

@@michaelcorcoran8768 Slim executed cheese for Joe not bodie .

@SubZeroJill Год назад

We need more videos pointing out the positives of S5 for real....

@michaelcorcoran8768 Год назад

Season 5 was by far the funniest season. Definitely the weakest but that's not something to be ashamed about. Still ended up having an amazing finale is as good as any episode of the Wire.

@RazorShalom 2 месяца назад

I would’ve liked to seen a fire department aspect. They could’ve done that with season five. Or do a season 6 and surround it around the BFDP

@theyakkoman 3 месяца назад

Recently rewatched the show and, yeah, I think 5 is the weakest season. Still good, not as good as the others. And a lot of what you already pointed out are the main reason; a shorter run time with only 10 episodes means that they can't flesh out characters as much, and that the Sun felt less nuanced and just bitter. I did also think about the part where you said that how come Gus seems too good but we don't mind Lester. And I think I have a reason for that as well. It's because Lester is a dark horse. When we first meet him he seems like, as McNulty put it, a house cat. That weird guy who sits and makes models, but then he goes out and produces a picture of Avon. Something the rest of the crew have been struggling and failing to do. He surprises us, because we underestimated him. Making him a bit more of an underdog that we've seen rise and get his fair share and respect. Gus on the other hand is introduced as a smart person and no-nonsense editor and stays that way. He's just good out of the gate with no mystery or other intruging bits. Also that he is an obvious stand in and mouthpiece for David Simon. That makes him feel less like a character and more like a self-insert Mary Sue which, in a show as well made as The Wire, feels off. I still like Gus and I think he has some great lines. But he is not as memorable or complex as other Wire characters. Which, frankly, none of the Sun characters are. Which I once again blame on lack of time and maybe, just maybe, Simon being a bit too vindictive about his old workplace.

@papichefitup 29 дней назад

I've watched season 5 twice its amazing its mcnulty completely out of control but simultaneously taking back control marlos arc is amazing he gets what stringer bell wanted but ultimately lost what he wanted the crown respect on the streets

@importantstuff1130 Год назад

Well i do consider season 5 to be the weakest but its still a great season. Its just not as great as other seasons, but nowhere near the downfall that was season 8 of GoT. My ranking is: 3,4,1,2,5. Season 3 had everything, Stringer&Avon, Stringer & Cla Davis, Stringer & Omar, Stringer & Moutone (guess who's my favorite Charackter) easy the best season.

@Dogherder22 Год назад

I have heard that they were expecting a season 6 up until mid shoot of season 5. Then they had to scramble to wrap up. But I'll take the worst season of the Wire over anything else.

@orzonorobinson7183 3 месяца назад

Watching the wire in real time we didn’t realize every season was about a particular subject that cycled Baltimore. Similar to season 2 it got flack u til we watched it back. Season 5 is still the worst but I want to look at the press storylines more knowing what I know now

@FuryXDMGS 5 месяцев назад

a fantasy supernerd friend described his opinion on Gus in such a way: "Look man, paladins are always cool, but their storylines, no matter the IP, are always a snoozefest..."

@martino5742 Год назад

amazing, cathartic video. said so much that I know I've always thought but could never quite verbalize. but I think the fact that it's so outwardly funny actually makes it less funny in the grand scheme. It used to just be random funny moments that are funny because they are true to life moments of awkwardness, stupidity or people just being genuinely funny ("soc-what??"). But when it seems like they're TRYING to be funny, it isn't earned as much imo. Id say season 3 is in total the funniest ("your homophobia is so *visceral*")

@mazalblues Год назад

Fans of the wire: A cop compromising crime scenes and inventing murderers? Man, that's so unrealistic Real Cops: What? Oh... oh yeah, uh... that's right, that would never happend (gulp!)

@RaphialLee 9 месяцев назад

I think they did wrong with dukies character. I think he should of had a happy ending. Being put in a new school and adopted by prez. That was just said and made me not want to watch it.

@blackgeekfandom Год назад

Most people in the past during its run said Season 2 was the weakest. Never heard any grips about Season 5. The tragic scene where Mike drops Dukie off and one being the next Omar while the other becomes Bubs. Prez gets the handle of being a teacher and in a heartbreaking manner but realistic manner, hoping Dukie can be saved. The cycle of corruption and cyclical human behavior. Again never heard complaints. It's a 93 on Rotten Tomatoes.

@pauln5839 Год назад

I feel like Season 3 and 5 are more disliked than other seasons because they feature plotlines wich dive into the realm of "Fiction" more than people watching the show would be used to. The Wire observes, analyzes and interprets the world AS IT IS (or rather was at that time), however: The Hamsterdam / Serial Killer Plotlines always seemed to me like they were also proposing solutions in a way, wich would of course be doomed considering that the quintessence of every season is that NOTHING changes (not for the better at least).

@snyc6542 8 месяцев назад

The show was most definitely great because of its realness and you are correct that some of the later items didn't feel natural. I also found it very hard to believe the Greeks would just support Prop Joe being killed off by some young shoot first gangster who was making enemies all over the city. They would have never given up years of successful business dealing with a business man like Prop Joe for a kid who would most likely be dead any day.

@gregoryporch8395 Год назад

McNulty's serial killer line had me disgusted but still watching. Before this, McNulty is a fitting anti-hero, doing the right thing & willing to be a prick to get it done. But now he's an all-out bullshit artist? Bubbles, on the other hand, I love how they did him. Season 4 was his best season, but it was awesome to watch him with Steve Earle and, in the end, finally be invited upstairs to dinner.

@cs3473 Год назад

"The Dickensian Aspect..."

@4evasmooth Год назад

If I had to say anything negative about season 5 it would be that it was too short and slightly rushed but thats about it. The theme of the entire season was based on lies... the bigger the lie being, the more people you would have believe and thats absolutely true in many cases. To the extreme just look at real life, things like the gulf war and the non existent weapons of mass destruction, the case of the Central Park five and many more. All cases based on false information but were driven on the belief that the information was 100% true. It may seem outlandish but season 5 still managed to drive the point home perfectly. Being the show never bowed to fan service which was a good thing, fans I think were disappointed that the story didn't end for many characters how the hoped it would but Bubbles coming full circle was perfect enough for me.

@mcclintocksamuel05 Месяц назад

Avon out of left field was actually awesome. He popped out I said “yoooooooooooooo”. Which is crazy cause up to a point you root for Stringer as opposed to Avon.

@chairmanro1012 Год назад

Sorry bud, but it’s you that’s wrong. Season 5 falls down because it's so clear that David Simon has a very personal axe to grind with the newspaper industry in Baltimore, and it completely skews his objectivity. In seasons 1-4 he shines a critical but dispassionate light on various parts of society, shows us how it works and lets us work out why that is so wrong. In season 5 he has these caricatures, clearly based on his own experience, and it is so heavy handed as to be unbelievable……as for the serial killer plot, fantasy land nonsense