Why You Should Look Forward To The Menopause | Fleabag Series 2 

I was just thinking exactly the same thing!

this is one of my favorite scenes and i never realized that!

Did not notice that. Thanks!

MINDBLOWN. I didn't notice

Great point! Can you remember if this is the one and only scene where she doesn't break it? I didn't even notice. Thank you.

same oh god

I agree it’s so stress full And this type of thinking makes me have a hard time in social situations

How about "People are worth taking a chance on" ?

@@telectronix1368 I love it!

@@telectronix1368 wow thank you

I feel like for women, getting older is a LOT harder than it is for men. Women always are appreciated for big parts because of their looks. As a result, a few wrinkles on your face means that your social value is falling. This scene, however, provided a different insight- finally you aren't valued as an object and fully become a human being in other's eyes.

That's lovely to hear. This show was fantastic.

@@crowe3627 And yet old women are happier than old men. Women between 70-90 years old have the lowest suicide rates of any age group, whereas men between the same age have the highest.

@@bubastis6306 Thank you, Feminism.

As women get old, their value as humans plummets to that of a man. Must be tough losing all that privilege.

I agree! I loooooove those scene!

If we ever get a Fleabag comeback when she's older, as PWB mentioned one time, I want to see Belinda. If I don't get to see Belinda I will scream

And she did blink

I like this character so much!! wich episode is this one?

@@elliinspace That's exactly where my mind went as well XD

No address to the camera...very telling...

No winks to the camera. Just total focus. Wonderful.

It is brilliant writing, and more than that, brilliant insight to what menstruation and menopause mean in a woman's life. THANK YOU, Fleabag, for putting this on film.

The character doesn't need to break 'away' from the scene to talk to the audience because the writing is already doing that. This scene more than any other moment in Fleabag seems like (to me) Pheobe WB just sitting down and writing "here is what I think it is to be a woman".

If only I was thought that in school.

Jesus did several miracles, teaching God's word and rose on the cross to free us from sin. It's more than just that.

​@@summerrose8110rose from cross and gone where ?

This entire scene was perfect but this line summed it all up.

Same. I wanted to grow wings.

What I hear is stark self-hatred and personal body-shaming. Ilike to think most women dont feel like that.

@@MrSidney9 I don't know if you are a woman, but I promise you - this is NOT self hatred or body shaming. Human societies have long trapped women into narrow roles because of their biology. What she says is not a reaction to her body - it is a reaction to the expectations of society on her body.

@@Sentientmatter8 Not society. Nature has imposed on women the pain and the pleasure of being able to bear children. Much of culture in every society is organized around Nature's impositions. Nature is the substrate. This is especially visible in less developed societies where human technology hasn't tamed much of the influences of Nature. Contraceptives, for instance, has done more to liberate women than any philosophy or activism.

Moi aussi.

Im a guy. And this scene knocked me out.. I can imagine what women go through. Such a well conveyed perspective.made me think and rethink.

Like a truck with bricks speeding at 100 miles per hour.

Indeed. I'm shook lol

As an introvert it is hard to admit this is true.

Oh my god, I'd never thought about it like that! But it's so true!

Yes!! Remember in season 1 when she said she was so terrified of what she would do when people didn't want to f*ck her anymore? The way this show catalogs Fleabag's journey towards healing is so brilliant.

Wow well said!

Physically, our youth is our prime and of course gravity is always working its magic. I love your message here about, "Each year is more wisdom, more experience, more practice at being a human being..." Even in the face of society's expectations, aging like most things has a lot to do with the person's mentality and gratitude.

Preach

@@ampmri2434 Couldn't your prime physically not,be in your youth either? Or at least extend it into your 30s 40s 50s and 60s if you take care of yourself?

@@leif1075 Are these rhetorical questions, I think you may already have the answers.

entertain7us14 wow

@Romil You mean Kristen Scott Thomas? Yes, she's a star and she's awesome!

@@Lulph yeah I hadn't heard of her before seeing this, but she even got an Emmy nom for this episode!

@@Lulph don’t be that person.

@@hameed What person?

You should watch the English Patient

my favourite scene in the entire series, even though it has a lof of great scenes, but this one just effected me in a way, nothing else on this show

Some real gems of wisdom in this 4:38 clip, delivered with humor and modesty and the viewer wasn't beaten over the head.

IFKR

Oh get lost

ikr

@@jameshudson395 likewise to you

@@jameshudson395 Everyone except this dumbass😂

Yeah what a great fan base

But what did she mean by that ? I don’t understand, is she saying she’s not appealing physically to her ?

@@tharakir1328 could be that, yeah. Could be the age difference too. We all have people we're more/less drawn to sexually than others

​​@@tharakir1328Homosexuality is a sin, that's why.

She also wrote the first season of Killing Eve.

@@sarahcameronlerer4883 Which is why its the best

Ropsana Khanom update?

astreqwerty missed a grade A by a couple of marks, whether they penalised me for the quote I have no idea but I'm off to medical school 😆 thanks for asking

Ropsana Khanom congratulations!!! 😊

AlvWaynwood thank you so much!

@@RK-ep8qy godspeed to you!

I didn't get until I saw your comment 😂

First I thought it was just a joke on the fact that it's horror, not a classy, period movie. (I thought she was gonna say The English Patient... get it? ;) ) Now I get the joke... LOOOL.

@@oscarfun100 ME TOO

I thought it was because fleabag is younger so she thought that Carrie (late 70s) is a period film

@@abbieisakilljoy6977 YEP! Also my thought process

The idea of Men creating their own pain by quote 'creating wars so they can feel things and touch each other' is maybe the most out of touch thing i've ever heard and it shows how naive women are about the male experience.

@@greedyboi011alr incel

@@greedyboi011 I know right what a ridiculous statment.

​@greedyboi011 meanwhile women also creating wars! For example Cleopatra! All the conversation is absolutely cringe!

​@greedyboi011 oh it is clearly hyperbole meant to illustrate a point. Men are so sensitive

Grey area sex,rape and sexual assault is more or less same with men and women..it’s just that some men don’t even think can be sexually assaulted..I know 2 guys who were taken advantage of while they were drunk…even tho they felt uncomfortable after knowing the fact they still didn’t think it was a sexual assault.

@@ritesh6487 because many men and women connect the act of rape to penetration and that's something only men are capable of doing ( I mean the natural way, no toys ). Getting drunk and getting ridden by a (hot) girl or a bj - what's wrong with that? "It's a dream"

Never, Rarely, Sometimes Always is a very underrated film ! It might not be for everyone - It's extremely slow paced and follows a less conventional narrative format paired with realistic writing. But, if not just for the ending alone and how it recontextualizes everything that's happened before, I believe it's worth watching.

and people always downplay the pain too, "oh it's not that bad" "can't be that painful" etc

yes, but if everything is trauma, we are nothing but victims. I rather go grab the night by it's nipples

@Lee TV Exactly.

Susie English Im a teenage girl I’m 16 and I cannot decide where to begin I understand so much yet I don’t

@@StrangeAttractor And who exactly endowed you with the knowledge of what every woman is and isn't capable of? And that it's always some great tragedy full of regret if a woman ends up with no children? Some people are actually fulfilled enough in life and feel no need to have them, including women. And even continue to feel that way till their last days, as shocking as that may seem to you.

Maybe if you're talking about, say, Jennifer Aniston. But most women are not even in the same ballpark as Jennifer Aniston. The handful of women I know who have kids are the happiest ones, the others are either busy quitting their careers and embracing 'self-love', or they are on medication for mental health problems.

@@StrangeAttractor That's the women you know, and good for them. It doesn't apply to every other woman on this planet. And just because those other women you know don't have children, does not mean it is the cause of the unhappiness in their lives. If we're gonna go on anecdotal evidence here, I've known a number of women who do have children and yet are extremely unhappy in their lives and even struggle with mental health issues. Having children is not for everyone and it won't make every woman happy with their lives or unhappy if they don't have them.

The same with losing parents, in my experience. It's horrendous but then it's......done and you are a different person.

@@telectronix1368 WHAT ???!! did you used to have a good relationship with your parents?

@@selfi6724 When you are no longer "someone's child" it is a different experience as you go about the world.

@@telectronix1368 okaay I see But I love my mum so much I would die if something happened to her

@Rike 98 That's sort of what I mean. You don't want them to be gone of course but......once they are....your experience of the world is different.

@J H It's more succinct than the essays, books and lectures. Plus, it can be used as a primer for diving into those texts.

raven3moon Here, here...

@J H There are thousands of essays and books and lectures on Psychology but my college instructor still showed us The Breakfast Club.

I used the pain quote in an academic essay.

Ruth Hermosura Thanks for that. Spread the word!

I didn’t get the joke the first time but then I remembered that Gym Shower scene where Carrie got her first period OMG Phoebe is such a genius when writing this 😂

@@takayanagi-senseissurprise2104 The whole movie is often considered a sort of girl's puberty allegory as well!

I don’t get the joke pleade explain 😢

@@meuthianabilapratiwi5535 So there was still Stephen King novel that became a film called Carrie. There was this scene in the film that she got unexpectedly got her first period right there in the gym shower in front of the other girls. Anyways, the joke was that Belinda was asking Fleabag what’s her favorite Period Film (Like those movies that are based on historical records or books) to which Fleabag responded:”Carrie” It’s a pun joke actually that involves two different definitions of the word period. One used for a period of time and the other is used for the menstruation cycle.

@S K Doyle Well said! I completely agree - I can relate too little or too far too...

Omg this!

'I look like a pencil...'

@@chrissiem3958 i was just about to say that... lol

amen!

yep

I'd just add any person with a uterus. Nonbinary and trans men included

Oh gosh, the pain

​@@Merlincat007 women

That's very attractive, you know.

you have no idea how much your comment has helped me mentally

and just wait till you get into your 70's, kids; it keeps getting better!

Do you not feel lonely? Genuine question.

@@poojagb I guess she was trying to convince herself

Yes but then what she says? Right after saying -honestly? Please someone tell me the rest of her response.

@@balahatun "Can't be arsed, darling."

@balahatun "Can't be arsed, darling". Meaning, she can't be bothered.

@@captaint5739 thank you!

@@1funkyflyguy thank you!

what does this mean

@@aznmnh2 can't be bothered.

Oh, please, don't be afraid. 'Older woman' speaking here 😅 but I remember perfectly well when I was 23. Don't be afraid of guys. They are afraid themselves too. Always speak out your feelings or intentions or wishes. If they're not appreciated, move on. Cry it out, but don't be resentful. That's my advice if you're interested at all ☺️ I wish someone had told me this back then.

We all age and the only constant is change!

The way she says “not strictly” is so great This whole time I thought this scene would be one of many scenes where you’re queer so you see the queer sexual tension when it isn’t there but then they actually kissed

wait omg !

Reminds me of a scene from The Sopranos when Janice starts her speech for her mother and old man who was coming down from the stairs goes back up 😂

Karan Singh Maybe in your family. My family is super formal. 😢

@@amitnagpal1985 I'm sorry to hear that :(

I'm happy that there are men who can learn and enjoy women point of view. As a woman who was too observant of her dad, rather focusing on her mum, I can agree. My dad treated my mum like enemy, just because she was gentle and caring person. I never understood, until it was too late that being nice is not a weakness, as my father tried to convince himself. Too late because my mum isn't here anymore to see that at the end I choosed her, her school of thoughts is more enjoyable and fulfilling that prison of self restriction my father live in.

amit nagpal yeah I'm glad society is slowly moving away from that, guys should be allowed to hug or lean on eachother without hearing no homo, allowed to cry and he emotional and not told to man up, as if they would be less because they expressed pain.

Well the thing is that no woman can cure this for you. You have to be emotionally available and open yourself to get a partner who is equally emotionally available. I feel sorry you had to grow up in such a formal family but you can change that. You can start by telling your parents you love them and eventually they'll say it too. You can start by asking your mother/father for a hug and sooner or later they'll do it without asking. You can start it by doing it with your siblings too. I started that in my family openly telling them that I love them and now it's become a norm in our family. And the best thing you can do is make this a norm in your family when you eventually have kids. Get yourself a partner who understands how much emotional vulnerability means to you. How "touch starved" can be a thing. Because if men can't convey their emotions properly, I am sorry to say nobody can read their minds. Take it little by little and reduce the formality if you can.

It annoyed me too lol

nat. That’s British comedy for you. Few episodes and even fewer seasons with unimaginable wits and humor. I hate but appreciate it at the same time. Even Phoebe regretted ending Fleabag that early.

hasslfoot yes! I completely agree- especially with the Boo part. If you think even her relationship with the Priest was flawed... she knew little about his scars (alcoholism, parental problems, his brother)

@Purple Bubblegum Yep, I'm 39 and I'm also tired of this bullsh*t! It's still a long way to go, unfortunately...

I'm 34. I got another 20 years maybe?

36 and counting down the years.

My period pain went away forever at 30 when I got my first pregnancy

Somehow to me the kiss spoils everything. Like the whole conversation was so beautifully written, absolutely immaculate, but the kiss spoilt everything. I couldn't understand why it took place.

Yes yes yes!!!🥰🥰

A tired one 😂

She was apparently exhausted This was so homosexual

I'd sleep with both of them!

@@geekwithglasses2897 I mean she literally said, "I'm exhausted"

No plans. Yet, anyway. We can always hope!

It can't have any more seasons. In the last episode fleabag has grown and healed enough that she doesn't need us/audience to cope anymore. She wants to be present in her own life. So unless PWB gave up on being brilliant and true to her art, more seasons ain't happening.