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Why You Should Read Fate/Stay Night (And Its Sequel) 

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Happy 20th Anniversary to Fate/Stay Night!
Music Used:
In The Rays of the Sun, Fate/Stay Night
• Fate/Stay Night OST: C...
EMIYA, Fate/Stay Night
• Emiya Original Version
Sunlit RE, Tsukihime Remake
• 日向:re - Sunlit: re - T...
Feelings That Won't Disappear, Fate/Stay Night
• Fate/stay night [Réalt...
Sakura Koi Uta, Melty Blood Actress Again
• Melty Blood Actress Ag...
Magic Hour, Fate/Stay Night
• Fate/stay night [Réalt...
Wonderful Boy, Melty Blood Actress Again
• Wonderful boy -Remaste...
Kishi Ou No Hokori, Fate/Stay Night Deen Anime
• Fate/stay night - Kish...
Last Piece, Fate/Hollow Ataraxia
• Fate/Hollow Ataraxia O...
Reunion, Fate/Hollow Ataraxia
• Fate/Hollow Ataraxia O...
Caren Hortensia, Fate/Hollow Ataraxia
• Fate/Hollow Ataraxia O...
Wars, Fate/Hollow Ataraxia
• Fate/Hollow Ataraxia O...
Sorrow, Fate/Stay Night
• Sorrow (2012 Version)
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Intro: 00:00
Adaptations of FSN: 04:06
Fate/Stay Night: 12:00
Hollow Ataraxia: 20:00
Outro: 24:21
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16 июл 2024

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@ViviVariety
@ViviVariety 17 дней назад
Had to reupload cause I was an idiot and forgot to fix some stuff…but in any case, there’s one thing I wanted to mention, but I cut it out because of the (upcoming) Remaster release! When it comes to the FSN VN, a common question is “which version should I read?”. In short, there are two* versions of Fate available. -The first is the original 2004 release. It’s the OG, complete, unabridged story, but the key thing is that FSN was originally an 18+ eroge (aka adult material) novel. From what I could research, Nasu originally didn’t want to include adult content, but Type-Moon was insistent that the market had no room for a non Eroge novel. This could be an urban legend, so feel free to let me know, I also wouldn’t be surprised if this were just baloney. -Later, Fate was re-released as Fate/Stay Night: Realta Nua, which is an updated remaster that retains all the core story elements, adds some new content, and includes voice acting along with updated music. But this version was rewritten to replace all the 18+ content with new scenes. This has some…mixed results, which I’ll explain in a bit. Now, while it’s easy to say “just read the version you want”, it should be noted that the OG VN is, for all intents and purposes, impossible to get. The Realta Nua version is the one that gets ported all the time in Japan, and while the worldwide release isn’t out yet, it’s almost certainly going to be the Realta Nua version. I’ll see for myself and update this note once it’s actually out. It’s also the reason I omitted this section from the video. But that said, Realta Nua is by all means the “canon” version of Fate; I know everything in the Nasuverse is canon, but in many of other nods and references across the Nasuverse almost always refer to the Realta Nua version. As for the OG vs Realta Nua changes, there isn’t a real consensus, and it depends on who you ask. As for my two cents, the adult content in the original is honestly written really poorly, and scenes that should be emotional or intimate just come off as comical in my humble opinion. There’s a place for adult content in the story, but I do wish it were just given proper respect and effort. However, the Realta Nua replacements have a broad range, ranging from “awkward and clumsy” to “this is actually really cute”. There is one scene in particular I vastly prefer to the original, but the rest is pretty hit and miss. …BUT, the most important change when it comes to OG vs Realta Nua is in the form of Heaven’s Feel. There’s an argument that Fate and UBW don’t really need adult content, but Heaven’s Feel has adult content as a pretty major focal point, and the Realta Nua changes make for a story that has less impact and stakes in my opinion. The story still works and is still incredible, but I think even the average reader will read the Realta Nua version of Heaven’s Feel and notice scenes that were blatantly darker or more intense. However, in the meantime, there is one option available to prospective readers right now: The Fate Stay Night Ultimate Edition. This is a fanmade version of Fate that has the best of both versions, and has many options so that you the reader can customize the experience how you see fit. If you want to experience the OG VN text with updated visuals and the Realta Nua soundtrack, it’s an option. Or if you prefer the Realta Nua text but want the OG Heaven’s Feel text, and a mix of OG and Realta Nua music, that’s a-okay too. It’s my preferred method as well. For what it’s worth, all the footage you see in the video were my recordings with the Ultimate Edition. It can run on toasters, it looks gorgeous, and it’s definitely my preferred way to experience Fate/Stay Night. I intend to buy the official version to support Type-Moon, and I encourage others to do the same, but I think the benefits of the Ultimate Edition are too good to pass up. I can’t link it here in case the Type-Moon ninjas get on my case, but I promise you the Ultimate Edition is easy to find, and easy to install. Just be sure to support the official release when the time comes. Also go read the Tsukihime Remake! It’s finally out!
@1chibanKasuga
@1chibanKasuga 17 дней назад
👍
@DouglasStewart99
@DouglasStewart99 17 дней назад
BRO. I *LITERALLY* put my heart, soul, and time into that comment I left man! Oh well. Guess I'll have to do it again! Also finally got my limited edition of Tsukihime 2 days ago!
@Angras_advocate18
@Angras_advocate18 17 дней назад
Ur right nasu didn’t want to include H-scenes but had to become a sellout due to so many sleeping on the garden of sinners.
@DouglasStewart99
@DouglasStewart99 17 дней назад
@@Angras_advocate18 I've heard he didn't even *write* the H-scenes and some of the metaphors were less Narm sounding in Japanese. Still didn't find them nearly as bad though.
@ViviVariety
@ViviVariety 17 дней назад
I've also heard that allegedly Takeuchi was the one pushing for H-scenes, and may or may not have wrote them lol. I also wouldn't be surprised if the translation probably doesn't do them justice, and at the end of the day, it was a net positive, so can't really complain to be honest. I guess ideally I'd prefer either well written H-scenes (like Hollow Ataraxia...as I've *ahem* heard...) OR better replacement scenes with more effort, if that makes sense.
@josecuestas7246
@josecuestas7246 9 дней назад
19:06 Saber looks like Namine from Kingdom Hearts.
@ViviVariety
@ViviVariety 7 дней назад
Huh, I never noticed that. Guess Nomura did it first lol
@josecuestas7246
@josecuestas7246 7 дней назад
@@ViviVariety Yeah XD
@adam-dn3hi
@adam-dn3hi 5 часов назад
I am surprised you didnt mention the big adaptation problems in unlimited blade works real lack of inner dialouge and exposition from the character leave alot unawanswered and not understood especially when it comes to shirou who looses 70% of his entire character when his lacking all of his important inner dialouge they are a VERY crucial part and even the heavens feel movies which dont fully focus on shirou himself as they cut most of the other characters just for sakura STILL include those inner dialouge scenes because they are THAT important for the story
@ViviVariety
@ViviVariety 5 часов назад
Oh trust me, I debated long and hard about how much to delve into Ufo's UBW issues on inner monologues. I ultimately decided against it because the very next section explored the inner monologue problem and it would've felt redundant, and to be honest it's present in ALL the Type-Moon adaptations to some degree. Even KnK suffers because Shiki and especially Mikiya get next to no inner monologues, and like Shirou, their characters suffer...although Shiki obviously still gets ample characterization, so it's less of an issue for her. UBW is unique in that it's arguably the one that suffers the most because it's essentially the Shirou route, so I'm in agreement that Ufo's handling of it is particularly bad. You know it's bad when the anime director fiat out says "yeah I didn't quite understand Shirou". BRUH that's the MAIN character lol. In any case, I share the same opinion as you, and my goal is to hopefully explore Ufo's issues later down the road because it's a genuine criticism. Sometimes I feel like I go hard on Ufotable enough as is in past videos, so at times I try to temper the critiques so it's not just "Ufo dropped the ball" ad nauseum, if that makes sense.
@SliestGuy
@SliestGuy 9 часов назад
Finally someone put into words what I couldn't for years. Amazing video.
@Angras_advocate18
@Angras_advocate18 17 дней назад
Love the vid! Definitely going to my type-moon essay playlist.
@Iffyschatos
@Iffyschatos 8 дней назад
Yo got a link to that I’m trying to get some friends into type moon and I’m horrible at explaining why I like type moon
@Angras_advocate18
@Angras_advocate18 8 дней назад
@@Iffyschatos ha I’m the same, I gotchu ru-vid.com/group/PLcVG2u5R2cCuY9Q_G9pJmi30zLUvhVo2Z&si=7Z6foNVbDRwK7j4b
@Angras_advocate18
@Angras_advocate18 8 дней назад
@@Iffyschatos sorry RU-vid doesn’t let me send links for some reason. All u have to do is go to my playlist section & save it to yours it’s next to the share button
@Iffyschatos
@Iffyschatos 8 дней назад
@@Angras_advocate18 ok thank you :)
@ViviVariety
@ViviVariety 7 дней назад
For some reason I needed to manually approve this comment, so you're all good mate!
@IdeoHazamaFan3000
@IdeoHazamaFan3000 17 дней назад
This is a great video! Visual novels/novel games are my favourite medium for stories, and I love Fate/stay night so very much. Shirou and Saber are two of my favourite characters of all time, including a whole chunk of the rest of the cast too. It’s such a shame that the medium is so niche and hard to sell at times to people. Like you’ve said in the video, I just want to share this wonderful story (and its sequel) with everyone! Hope to see the official localisation bring in more people to the novel, and Type-Moon’s other works. Maybe the VN medium as a whole too. I’m glad to have found a high quality video to send to any friend who becomes interested in Fate, but is scared away by its ‘confusing to get into’ reputation.
@ViviVariety
@ViviVariety 7 дней назад
I appreciate the compliments! I'm in agreement that visual novels are extremely underread compared to other mediums...which is why I absolutely intend on doing a much longer video for prospective readers in the future! I feel as if people enjoy games like Disco Elysium or any long JRPGs, they'll likely love visual novels for much the same reason. At least, I'd like to think so.
@DouglasStewart99
@DouglasStewart99 16 дней назад
Ever since I heard the 2012 New Dawn in your FE Franchise and Gintama videos, always asked myself when you'd do a Fate/Stay Night video. And we're *FINALLY* here! 22:58 Bazett "These Hands Are Rated E For Everyone" Fraga McRemitz. Amazing. Everytime I hear the lines "Humans can't fight Servants" I look at characters like Bazett (with others) and say "Stop the cap, Nasu." I always wanted to get into the Fate franchise but didn't know where to start. Always saw it as "That one anime series with the blonde knight in blue with the movie budget fight scenes." in the distance. My 1st step in the Fate/Nasuverse rabbit hole would be F/SN UBW Abridged by Project Mouthwash (My *CLOSE* 2nd favorite abridged). That along with Melty Blood lead me to my *real* 1st step, the Tsukihime manga (Which I read in October 2020. Fitting, no?). To say I fell in love with that manga would be an *understatement.* Basically sold my allegiance to both Shiki Tohno (favorite Nasuverse MC) and Arcueid Brunestud (Favorite Tsukihime girl). Then I found the original VN and played it. I *LOVED* that VN! Imagine my reaction when the remake was officially announced the day I finished the OG in its entirety (Then I shortly followed through Kagetsu Tohya afterward). Wasn't until July 16th 2022 that I FINALLY got the F/SN Ultimate Edition VN to work on my laptop. That VN was a *TRIP!* If I wasn't already mesmerized by the VN's budget increase from Tsukihime, then it was the cool and memorable cast, awesome moments and visuals, and the amazing OST by KATE. Followed that up with reading HA, and that was also a pretty great fandisc sequel! Wasn't until earlier this year that I watched UBW's ufotable anime for the 1st time in its entirety. I know you said that the anime can't replace the VN and all that, but Vivi you *GOTTA* admit that ufotable went *above and BEYOND* to give the VN justice and then some! If they cooked this well for my favorite route, I can't wait to see what they did with my 2nd favorite route HF! And yeah, now I'm a dude who's just got his limited edition for the Tsukihime Remake, need to read more of Mahoyo before the movie comes out, and stuck in the FGO Rabbit Hole/Trap. Now for my 3 favorite OG Servants: 1. *Archer.* 2. *Lancer.* 3. *Rider.* Can go into more detail if you wanna ask...
@emiyavalentine5969
@emiyavalentine5969 16 дней назад
Well the humans can't beat servants are just the mages' rule Seevants can be beaten via magecraft but the thing is its hard as shit so its more safe to just let the servants fight each other and the masters take care of the other masters instead
@DouglasStewart99
@DouglasStewart99 16 дней назад
@@emiyavalentine5969 This is true. But it's not *IMPOSSIBLE!*
@missharpieful
@missharpieful 16 дней назад
May I ask why Shiki is your favorite MC? I don't know many people who would say that, and since I haven't read Tsukehime yet, I'd like to know the appeal.
@AZTEC_G0D
@AZTEC_G0D 16 дней назад
​@@emiyavalentine5969Nothing is impossible in Nasuverse
@DouglasStewart99
@DouglasStewart99 15 дней назад
@@missharpieful I'll give you two main reasons: 1. His Mystic Eyes of Death Perception. A really cool power to cut basically *ANYTHING,* but unlike Ryougi's his is a lower grade and because of that it's got a HUGE drawback when used. And yet despite that, this dude can take out the big shots of the Nasuverse with them just by being a dude with a switchblade knife. 2. His view on the fragility of life. Thanks to his eyes he feels like nothing in this world matters since in his words "the whole world could perish in an instant". Because of that, he holds on to the believe on the importance of living a good life and he does what he can to preserve and improve the lives of others. It's something I can really resonate with in a way, personally. There are other reasons, but then we'd be heading to spoilers.
@yrisotto6678
@yrisotto6678 11 дней назад
Amazing Video
@Igno1001
@Igno1001 2 дня назад
peak
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