Why Your PTO Won't Go on the Tractor and the Basics of PTO Shafts

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Getting a PTO or Power Take Off shaft on and off can be a bit of a chore. It's also possible to do a lot of damage to your PTO shaft if you don't do some preparation before hooking an implement up for the first time or understand the danger of damaging the shaft if it gets put in a bind.
A PTO shaft consists of two yokes, two torque tubes and a shield. They attach to the tractor by pulling back (not pushing forward), or twisting a collar, or pushing a bar sideways, then sliding the yoke on the PTO stub shaft on the tractor, releasing the collar or bar, then pulling the mechanism back until it locks on.
Early PTO's had square shafts. Today's torque tubes can be various shapes, and the male and female portions generally only go together one way. Most have a flat spot on top of the male part, the bottom of the female part that must be matched to get them to slide together.
PTO shafts may need to be sized to match the implement and tractor combination. If they're too long, they may fit on the tractor but be in a bind when raised so the shaft is level. If they're too short, they can come apart at speed and damage the ends. Shafts can also be damaged if you drive away without disconnecting and then back up, or if you drive straight though a valley.
Understanding how PTO shafts work and how to protect them can save you money and improve your tractor owning experience.
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@joelthompson388 3 месяца назад

Not all heros wear capes. You are one of those. Thank you.

@TractorMike 3 месяца назад

Glad to help!

@fondy44 2 года назад

Man I despise that pull-back ring style. Seems like I have to make a knuckle skin sacrifice to some kind of tractor god every time I install it.

@taylorlong3602 9 месяцев назад

You perfectly described the last 3 hours of my life. Thank you for showing that in the beginning. Watched the entire thing.

@comlbbeau 2 года назад

Good explanation, Mike. For the life of me I don't understand why the push pin yoke attachment isn't the standard. It's much easier and intuitive than the others, particularly the first one you talked about.

@JimPriest 2 года назад

I usually hang on to my ROPs with one hand. Then climb between my quick hitch and my implement. Then hold the PTO shaft with my OTHER hand. Then spin the shaft on the tractor with my OTHER hand while trying to align everything while leaning over in an awkward position holding a 10lb shaft then pull back that collar on the coupling with my OTHER hand and push things together. Did I mention everything is covered in grease? LOL.

@misterb1080 2 года назад

You described every tractor owners procedure. Lol

@johanrunfeldt7174 2 года назад

That's four hands, I counted.

@timothysullivan968 2 года назад

Yep! Only takes four hands, lol

@shandor2522 Год назад

Excellent tips, and proof that instead of shafts, we should be using a hydraulic pump at the PTO, a hose, and a hydraulic motor on the Bush Hog. Hoses are flexible and they transfer all the power anyone needs.

@GaryGreenway 2 года назад

The reason the pto shafts will only go together one (or two) ways is so keep the u-joints phased correctly. If they're phased incorrectly bad things happen because the ends of the shaft are speeding up and slowing down several times per revolution.

@mikehaines6176 2 года назад

The greatest thing I've found for getting a PTO shaft on easily is the hinged shield on my tractor. Did not know it would lift up (Yeah, yeah -- shoulda read the manual all the way through.) until I saw another RU-vidr lift his up. Stopped the video and ran outside to see if mine would do that and it would. Hallelujah! Good video.

@markchoate9021 2 года назад

Mike, this is great stuff. As long as I have been around tractors, I find that it is very beneficial to revisit the fundamentals of hook ups, linkage, shafts, etc. Keep it coming, bro.

@ramchillarege1658 Год назад

Thank you. I am about to hook up my first PTO implement - and your tips are really helpful. Especially the last one about driving through a valley.

@jh9855 2 года назад

Where was this video two weeks ago when I was struggling with putting a rear deck mower on my tractor! Thank you for the video Mike. It is a keeper.

@mkc0005 2 года назад

I have Multiple Sclerosis and hooking up the PTO shaft is a challenge for me, trying to hold the collar back, holding the shaft up, and then sliding it forward all at the same time. I alleviated that for my rotary cutter by buying a JD Quik-Knect. It works great for that application but is fairly expensive. On my other, less used, implements I still have to wrestle with the original connection but for the cutter the QK was a lifesaver.

@fondy44 Год назад

I've been looking at some of the quik knect options but boy are they expensive! May have to go that route if I can't find a replacement shaft with the push button style connector. Not sure you could come up with a worse design than that pullback collar style that requires two hands and plenty of cussing.

@AJmx2702001 2 года назад

Good tips and review of the PTO shaft. I have been around Hesston, New Idea and Woods and they all used that same type of bell shape shaft and they all used the double joint CV type since they were on High Speed applications on 1000 rpm. Proper hitch length is the most common thing for PTO line to work proper. I would stress on most mowers to use the CV joint type to get more flex for turning and crossing ditches

@bladerunner1458 Год назад

U saved me. Attaching the snowblower to my tractor in a confined space I could not get the connector onto the PTO shaft. It worked last time after much effort only because I pulled the front ring back without knowing it. Everything is clean and lubricated so what could be wrong?Tractor Mike told me to pull the front ring back back and it went on perfectly. Since this is a confined space, it’s intuitive to push everything toward the PTO shaft including the ring, and it would not go on. Thank you Mike and I don’t know why nobody ever told me this. When not in a confined space. I guess I always pulled both rings together and it went on thinking that’s the way it works and it did. Always can learn something and best to ask more questions. Thanks and I watched the whole video the second time since it was past my bedtime and snow is in the forecast and a thumbs up!!!

@markmonse5285 2 года назад

GREAT info! You never fail to disappoint in teaching me new things..

@TractorMike 2 года назад

No...I'm not sure where you would get those numbers. Mini-X's are going to follow the construction/housing/landscaping market and while that's showing some signs of long term slowdowns it appears to me to still be very strong.

@jameslovelace7773 Год назад

Mike, I am a new tractor owner and I am learning a lot from you. Thanks.

@danielmarkleblanc1800 Год назад

Just purchased new tractor. Your video was a welcome piece of information today when installing my rear mounted snow blower for the first time. Your fabulous description far exceeded anything the sales person showed me. BRAVO and keep those great instructional videos coming. I'L be watching! From New Brunswick Canada

@steve-ey3rx 2 месяца назад

Thanks, Mike. I have a "collared" shaft and constantly struggle with it. I haven't considered moving the part inside the collar forward. I'll try that soon. I really enjoy your videos and learn a lot from them. ;)

@danberger4593 2 года назад

Hi Mike! It was great to see you in Chehalis. This video made me think of one more tip - be sure to get a shaft that is heavy enough for your implement. I replaced a shaft on our hay mower a couple years ago and it got twisted with just normal use. Turned out I needed a much more heavy duty shaft. Just recently I replaced the shaft on our hay rake and was able to save money by buying a lighter duty shaft. Light or heavy, they ain't cheap!

@dannymartin1935 2 года назад

Wow head ache solved! Thanks you are a blessing!!

@txtpqb 2 года назад

my new PTO shaft has the push-button release, which is kinda awkward to get to and hard to push with one finger but its MUCH better than having to put a shear pin through the end of the PTO yoke and the tractor spline at the same time, then place a pin through the end of the shear pin. Uggghh, hated that! Thanks Mike, for all you do. You've sure saved me a lot of time, mistakes, and money. Much appreciated!

@mikemcgill7356 11 месяцев назад

Why you SOB , you got me 100 percent first 30 seconds was me , thank you and did watch in the field till end !

@j.r.murphy5097 2 года назад

You left out the 4th type the one that goes right through the center the PTO shaft and the spline like the TO 30s or 8 N. I love your Channel keep up the great work.

@ronkitchin65 2 года назад

Great video! Knowledge that is needed. Thanks for sharing.

@andrewross3293 Год назад

Great advice Mike. Thank you very much.

@grayceoney4453 2 месяца назад

Oh my God thank you so much. We have been working for an hour banging on that dang thing and we about ready to throw it in the trash thank you so much.

@frankmoreau8847 2 года назад

I've found lubrication is the key. My old Ford 1715 didn't have a PTO stub cover but I always kept a can of WD-40 and a small stiff bristled wire brush on or near the tractor. Spray and brush the stub, spray and brush the PTO connector. They always slipped together easily. It's even easier with the new New Holland because it has a PTO cover to help keep the stub clean. Also, slide the two halves of the shaft apart once a year, clean it and put some grease inside the female half and put it back together. Safety rule No1 never, ever get near an implement or the PTO shaft when it is turning. Sometimes you have to get off the tractor to analyze a noise, when the PTO is running, but do it from a distance!!!

@lukeclark5009 Год назад

Thank You, absolutely answered my question in the first minute.

@d.a.ballou9740 2 года назад

Yes to all of this! Loved the beginning especially! 😁

@-Dave-is-not-here 2 года назад

Nice video Mike and BTW I always watch your videos to the end.

@jamesmorrison1884 2 года назад

Good help for the one who does not know. Have a good day Mike.

@garymoore8380 11 месяцев назад

Thanks for the video. Helpful. I watched to the end.

@christhebuilder3752 11 месяцев назад

YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING ME!!!! I have the first one. Went right on. All my others are push pin. Thanks Mike. Watching the rest of the video and subscribing.

@williampockoski5029 2 года назад

Great information on fantastic detail for a newbie, thanks

@tommybounds3220 2 года назад

Thank you for the video.

@kansascitychiefsfan1043 3 месяца назад

This saved me a lot of time. You were correct. Thanks

@timmichael9451 4 месяца назад

Thank you Mike! You called it!

@lonniechartrand 2 года назад

Great information Mike!

@jamesyates5191 2 года назад

Great advice Mike

@craigdickerson3403 2 года назад

Also need to be careful with drawbar/pull type mowers that don't use the 3pt arms. The 3pt arms need to be up and out of the way of the pto shaft for when you are turning. Had a nice new pto shaft get the shield all messed up because arms were left too low and hit the shaft when doing a 180 degree turn.

@googlinstuff8910 Год назад

Pure gold, right here!

@petezahutt5174 2 года назад

Thanks Mike, Hooking up impliments and pto's for me is a dreaded chore even if it all goes smooth.

@larrywelch4979 Год назад

Yep, im 70 and my 60lb shaft on my bush hog kills me

@MisfitCafe 4 месяца назад

Thanks mike, I was doing exactly what you said with the collar.

@bediaswild6337 Год назад

you're a life-saver Mike! And I watched to the end. lol Thank you again!

@ryanweir6429 Год назад

This saved the day thank you

@kuderpaul Год назад

Thank you...great information, just subscribed!!!

@freecycling6687 2 года назад

Only have the tractor a couple of months, haven't even used the PTO yet. So I've got plenty of time to let the video run to the end. (But I'm making sure to bookmark this and keep it in my "Tractor" playlist so when the day comes that I need it, I can just watch the first 30 seconds, then run right back out again, haha.)

@rickvaughan8993 2 года назад

Thanks Mike, For this good info.

@danrac2852 Год назад

LOL I did stress my self out. I was doing it wrong. Ask my neighbohrs to, but in the end I have to use internet. Thank God. I found your video. Thank you again

@rogerjefcoats6379 4 месяца назад

Ok, I’m one of the people who you were talking to at first. I beat Banged sprayed oil. Nothing worked. Your video fixed it. Thank you.

@TractorMike 3 месяца назад

Glad it helped!

@ronevans852 2 года назад

Very good information every one needs to know.

@johnos4892 2 года назад

Great info thanks Mike

@stencooley Год назад

Thank you!

@earlyriser8998 2 года назад

good advice for us newbies

@kenthenry9351 Год назад

Thanks you are the man

@je1279 2 года назад

Many thanks Mike. I've battled with uncooperative PTO shafts on multiple occasions over the years and this will certainly help others that are currently struggling with these problem.

@don_carter Год назад

Ha! That was my problem, thanks so much for putting the fix in the first 30 seconds! (I let the video run...)

@DannyV1973 Год назад

thank you sir ,, after an hour of cursing ,, i watched the video and boom all done ,,and i did watch until the end!

@wolfpreist 2 года назад

First! good video. I always try to remember to smear some grease on the splines too.

@goforit5844 2 года назад

As always, good info that will - sooner or later - come in Handy…!

@bobvogel9916 2 года назад

Great video. Lots of ways to cause problems, and how not to do that.

@fhuber7507 2 года назад

I got a new PTO shaft with tight splines. Had to emery cloth the splines just a little. One with the side button, not the collar. When operated properly (and lightly oiled or greased) they should slide on with little effort. Haven't seen the twist version in a long time.

@jimg8218 2 года назад

Good information

@LedgemereHeritageFarm 2 года назад

On some of the groups, you see guys with new machines who don’t clean and grease the shafts first and then wail on it with a hammer and wonder why it won’t come off. I hate the the ones with the collar and prefer the ones with the button personally 😌

@douglassellers7528 2 года назад

Good video.

@CptBlackbeardlives 2 года назад

Round pin, square shaft is all I've ever used here. You forgot twisting the shaft though, I mowed a field for a cousin with my 7 foot Ford bushhog and 100 horse Ford 7700 and the grass was extremely thick and heavy. Tractor handled it fine but the pto shaft on the bushhog twisted considerably.

@rickyleblanc3945 2 года назад

Where was this video last year when I needed to know how different PTO couplers worked?? haha I should have just emailed you!

@_AndromedaGalaxy_ 2 года назад

i made the mistake just the other day of not connecting it together all the way and it popped off while in use. thought it was connected fully. easy fix. lesson learned. think im going to lube it every time i connect it from now on. should make it easier to attach all the way.

@alanross3435 2 года назад

Hey Mike, Your videos are always very informative, thank you for that! But this one is in the top three. 👍🏻 The way you explain yourself is second to none bro! Can’t wait to see the next one! Stay safe out there brother. 🇺🇦☮️✌🏻

@rogerr1296 2 года назад

I got tired of fighting mine, the push pin type. With the PTO shield in the way and it's really hard to bend over while holding up the PTO, push the pin and try to get it all up under the shield while keeping the pin depressed and trying to line up the spines. I bit the bullet and ordered a PTO link system... which, btw, I looked for on your site but couldn't find it, sorry..lol.

@fondy44 Год назад

I have the push pin style on a chipper and it's a walk in the park compared to the pullback collar style on the mower. If that ptolink product is even easier than the push pin I may just have to break down and buy one.

@guyprattii3115 2 года назад

The drive shafts only go together one way for two reasons. One, it might be balanced, not likely on a farm implement. Two, to keep the yokes in phase. They would probably be okay if they were off 180 degrees but you would get lots of vibration if they were off 90 degrees. Both yokes have to be in the same orientation otherwise when at a angel they turn at different speeds on the corse of a revolution.

@johnivey298 Год назад

my hero

@tannaclark4195 11 месяцев назад

as always great info mike i find that using a rope to hold up shaft while i twist push and pull to hook up … grrrr i curse the John Deere engineer who changed the push button to this twist-collar every time I hook up my mx5

@dizydiz 3 месяца назад

AHHHHHG! I’m tractor dumb. Thanks for making me palm my forehead! 😂 Keep doing what you do!

@ronevans852 2 года назад

You know I love the push button style on the PTO but you can’t get the push button anymore. I don’t like the pull back ones .

@JCWren 2 года назад

I've heard that the PTO shafts have those shapes so the yokes remain aligned. The yokes need to be 90 degrees out of phase with each other. If they're misclocked, the shaft would bind up.

@bortonfamilyfarms6094 2 года назад

So he mentions driving thru a draw binding the PTO. How bad is to bad. The property I mow has a ton of elevation changes so I set my mower to about 6” and sometimes the mower lightly bottoms out and very briefly makes the motor lug. Maybe slows rpm’s by about 50. I close my rocker shaft valve or whatever it is called because my mower causes my 3-point to sag and don’t want to have to constantly adjust. So to adjust mow height thru the draw involves stopping, open valve, adjust height, mow, stop, adjust height, close valve and would need to be done about 100 times thru out the field

@cowboymcq6711 Год назад

With the slip on style with the 2 ball bearings in the collar I have that on both ends what do I have to do for a shear bolt or clutch ? Or does the beatings slip instead ???? This is on my finish mower or does the belts just act as the slip or shear device ?

@TractorMike Год назад

Usually on a finish mower the belts act as a slip clutch/shear pin. If you hit anything that doesn't move the belts will slip.

@___PK__ 2 года назад

But how do you get rusted square ones apart??

@Rless45 2 года назад

Or you can jam the yoke on the PTO shaft like I did. It was hell getting the yoke off the shaft.

@2Ryled Год назад

That's my husb!

@michaelclancy3644 Год назад

What is your opinion on the “PTO-Link” that is sold to make it easier to hook up your PTO shaft ?

@TractorMike Год назад

Michael, I've not had any personal experience with that product so I really don't know.

@GorillasGuns 2 месяца назад

My pto shaft is new and I don't have a problem putting it on or taking off. I forgot to disconnect it from my tractor and drove away from my implement. I noticed it a few days later after dragging my box blade down the driveway. Is that a problem, can I just clean it up and continue using it, or do I have to buy a new one. It doesn't look to be damaged in any way.

@TractorMike 2 месяца назад

Clean it up and put it back on and you're probably fine. As long as it didn't get bent. If it did, here's what to do, don't buy a new one: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-ApnU87qOQh8.html.

@GorillasGuns 2 месяца назад

@TractorMike Not bent at all, I was able to clean it up, grease it up and slide it back together. Haven't used it yet, but I'm sure it will be fine. Thanks for the advice.

@vishnuap8175 11 месяцев назад

What is the name of it? Where we can buy it?

@JacTrades 2 года назад

This is literally 3 days too late lol. Ended up having to call the father in law for help getting the pto connected. Call of shame.

@GorillasGuns 8 месяцев назад

Looks like it works like an air hose coupler.

@barrydecker8719 Год назад

Hi Mr M I picked up last year a 2016 jd 5055e with h240 loader & she has 180hrs. I'm a land owner of 100 +acres trying 2 clean out fencerows. Is a stump bucket a good addition? I do have commonsense but I don't want 2 hurt my tractor. PS u r the first U2er I've texted. KEEP BEING U.

@TractorMike Год назад

I'm not a huge fan of stump buckets on tractors, but we have hardwood trees and lots of rocks here and it takes a lot of digging to get a stump out of the ground. On smaller tractors it's pretty easy to tweak your front end loader and that's not something you want to do. On a tractor as big as yours it would be less of a danger. The biggest problem, in my mind, is visibility. It's real hard to see what you're doing with the engine in your way, on a skid loader it would be much easier.

@barrydecker8719 Год назад

@Tractor Mike Mr M thx 4 your info. Yes it's real hard 2 c anything down there. I liked your tree puller video, but I don't have 3rd function. Keep being u. I enjoy your u2 videos. Glenn

@noneovyerbusiness4909 Год назад

Remarkable! Now I can quit beating it with a sledge hammer.

@vinniedeandrade6073 Год назад

I forgot to push the pin down when I connected my implement to my tractor. It began to spin and then BANG, it stopped. There is nothing visibly broken but now it does not spin and the PTO Light is blinking. What could have happened? Is it a simple fix?

@TractorMike Год назад

Vinnie, I'm not sure what is going on there. There's no way a PTO can spin when it's attached to the back of the tractor. Once those splines are engaged they can't go anywhere, but if the pin is not locked on, the whole shaft can come off. What I think has happened is you've sheared a shear pin on your cutter, which would let the PTO shaft spin but not engage. Here's a video on replacing a shear pin: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-98rseNk2hSY.html. It might be you have a slip clutch that is slipping, here's a video about that: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-eVRr9eechLI.html and one that talks about both: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-PbSGAyrx9sY.html.

@davem145mxr Год назад

I can’t get the coupling to release from the shaft without a major ordeal

@janskoropinski10 2 года назад

They only go on one way to keep the u-joints at both ends of the shaft in alignment.

@fondy44 Год назад

Where does 'running without the plastic shaft cover' rank if 1=absolutely not and 10=what shaft cover? I think that's the main source of my difficulty getting the shaft onto the tractor.

@Flyfish325 2 года назад

The typical PTO shaft can: Wrap up 424 feet of shoe lace in one minute at 540 rpm, or 785 feet of shoe lace at 1000 rpm. How long is your shoe lace? Have a rag ready and don’t wear your Sunday best when messing with a PTO coupler, my hands always get covered with grease. Have your pumice hand soap ready, lol.

@johanrunfeldt7174 2 года назад

That's seven (7) feet per second at 540 rpm and thirteen (13) feet per second at 1000rpm. Just taking the units down to something easier relatable by heart.

@zfotoguy71 2 года назад

I absolutely HATE the slip ring style. It's stupid that you need to push and pull at the same time. Add some grease and it's a grand ole time.

@Pete.Ty1 2 года назад

👍👍👍

@c1neal Год назад

I (overpaid) for a Facebook brush hog special. It has a spin type coupler. I don’t want to buy a new end. Can I rebuild the coupler? Asking because I don’t want to go back out there tonight.

@TractorMike Год назад

If you can get parts, you could rebuild it. You'll need to find a shop that specializes in drivetrains to find the parts for it, it's probably best to take the front half of the shaft off and take it to them.

@c1neal Год назад

@@TractorMike thanks for the reply! I gave it my best shot and wound up taking it back to them.

@christopherderaps Год назад

Good grief.... I could kiss you... Gosh dang it.... Feel like a complete tool. Only taken it off once. Thank you.

@TractorMike Год назад

It's nailed a bunch of people. They should change the design but it helps me get new viewers :).

@christopherderaps Год назад

@@TractorMike I watched the rest of the video ;)

@frankscruggs4749 Год назад

The pull back collar type shaft was the WORSE idea that anyone could invent. I was told by an EMT that the push pin type was eliminated to prevent someone`s clothes being wrapped by the PTO shaft. Why would anyone with any common sense get close to a rotating PTO shaft in the first place??

@philswords6390 2 года назад

My favorite way to destroy my pto shaft is leaving 2 inch trailer ball on the drawbar and dropping rotary cutter in a ditch or low spot. When shaft touches ball hitch it will warp and is now toast! Ask me how I know! Ouch.

@TractorMike 2 года назад

Ouch!