Why Yu-Gi-Oh Has a New Player Problem 

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rocket science is less expensive

No need to go to law school. Just play Yugioh if reading endless wall of text and arguing on rulings & technicalities is your thing!

We're actually gonna need irl degrees in Yugioh at this rate Suddenly GX seems way less silly

Rocket science is one of the most basic forms of science, in the field of science.

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@TCG KYE Except in this world it would probably be from some financial crisis or some SJW on the internet.

My school has a yugioh club and before covid we got about 30 people a week who already knew how to play or wanted to know how to play so most of the people at out locals are from the school. Most of the people who try learning also stay.

I like how back in the GX era the idea of a duel academy sounded ridiculous. Like, what you would learn? How to fusion summon? pff... but then we got to a place where i 100% could see an actuall university-level course on each summoning method just because of how fucking confusing some particular interactions can be.

Don’t even get me started on the Battle Phase.

where do i enroll? i shall use my Dragon Master Knight deck

Shit, you're right. Konami was planning this the whole time...

In 2021 Seto Kaiba will be making a duel acedamy with three dorms, slifer red, ra yellow and obelisk blue

yes yes I need one 2

That'd be kinda cooo actually, lol.

You’re likely to understand a fib sequence on a Bitcoin chart then understand when spell speed 2 and 3 apply to a game.

When synchro monsters came out back in the day, my first thought was: "Well... I really hope the game doesn't get any more weird summoning mechanics because that would make it too convoluted" Then pendulum and links came and... Yeah, here we are indeed.

Easy to learn stock market...its gunna crash! 😟

Ygobets!

@@DanielMartinez-nw1pn links aren't hard to summon at all, imagine a synchro monster that doesn't need a tuner or levels and you can also use one monster for a link it's beautiful, screw the pen summon though that was a mistake

I revisited YGO about 5 years ago all excited and nostalgic, and while doing some trades and purchases on a known YGO site with someone who appeared to be a reputable player (consistent finisher in nationals), got outright scammed. When I brought it up with the folks at the local I attended, they were just like "oh yeah he does that a lot". Noped right out of the scene immediately.

@@szclashraids5570 wow, sorry to hear that :/ yea the "best" players seem to be the most scummy

@@rossomex12 Sad to hear that. My local community (which not that local) already sick with meta since Firewall Dragon's madness and now mostly play Yugioh for fun-play so they are more open to new player and even to people who only buy waifu card. I sick with those people who like to bully a newcomer such as adult Pokemon players who like to bully kid players online and post it on RU-vid.

_Their foul behavior is draining their life points, and one day they will regret it_

Funny they make fun of you for not having a 90$ card, when i can almost say (without ever being at your locals) that there are more than 1 of those guys with 90$ cards that smell worse than a skunk.

it's this.

This is an actual problem. While I know the rules, it's not a good idea to keep them. A good example is, if a Danger!! Monster is discarded for cost, and then banished by D.D. Crow, its effect doesn't go off, cus it by rulings, never actually hit the graveyard. Since it is not written specifically in the rulings, then it shouldn't exist. It is a fun detail for me to play with, but it's not fun for any new players that simply don't understand. They really also need to do away with the when effects. They're dumb, new players don't like em', hell not even old players like em', and they really don't serve any purposes for the game state other than being nevative. Seriously, somebody name one good benefit of a "when" effect... Spoiler alert, there is none, other than to confuse the ever lasting shit out of people. They need to also do away with FTKs, u know Konami is always so afraid of FTKs, so make it so that they're impossible, simply make a new ruling where u can't take damage the first turn. And finally, I think another issue is the Ban List... KONAMI, get rid of the ban list and just start errataing cards, because yeah, u don't set rotations and the whole ban list thing is still not working... Pokemon is more popular, Magic The Gathering is more popular, clearly Yugiohs ban list idea is not working, people wanna still use those cards, but u can water them down to where they're still fair. And instead of making old archtypes better when they're already good, example is Draitron and Virtual World, start using those resources to make bad archtypes actually good and competitive, that way fans can have a wider variety. Errata does not always mean a bad change, a good example is Topologic Zeroboros, which is an example of an errata making it better than it was when released.

that and every time you think you know the rules they release a new mechanic or new rule that changes the game entirely

This. Magic is also a very complicated game, but most rules are either on the card or intuitive

Yeah like how is a new player going to know a card like Reckless Greed stacks to where if you play multiple on one turn you only skip two draw phases instead of skipping 4 or 6. That was something that made no sense to me. As a MTG player who got back into Yugioh, MTG preaches interpreting the text as literally as possible, with Yu-Gi-Oh that’s completely out the window for certain cards and rules. Not to mention there’s never an explanation of “why” only a “Konami said so”. I do love how you can email Konami rules questions though, they always answer me within a few days and I ask them a lot of stuff.

@Soniku Raharu I wish they would just reboot the game. Get rid of half the cards and most convoluted summoning mechanics (pendulum is fun, but it has to go, there's no justification for that much text in a card game). Just simplify it to make it easier for people to even get into. And 2 turn duels suck. They're fun to make your friend rage after they watch you spend a year setting up a board, but it's not an actual duel. Stop releasing all these cards that work together in a way where you set up your board on the first turn and win.

@Soniku Raharu This is why I will never actually physically get into the game. I'll play the video games for some quick fun, but I can't actually seriously get into yugioh.

Hehe play with yourself...

Giggity.

Bro, when did you stop playing? Degenerate FTK combo decks have been around since Dark Revelations.

He addressed this at 3:53 Btw, this was just a friendly fyi. Tone is hard to convey via text...and well, it _is_ the internet lol.

@@carlosmarte428 I don't see how adding keyword would cause much of the problem, some old magic card doesn't have keywords and you can still leave it as is. When there's a new reprint you just print the keywords, new players who memorized keywords can use the new cards, while old players can still use the old card, as long as it's the same card and they do the same thing I don't see the problem there.

Technically they do already shorten it. It's currently "can not be normal summoned/set. Must (first) be summoned by (insert summon effect here)." So it's currently 10 words that are the same, with "first" usually being there but not always (this DOES make a difference on how the card works). EDIT: Forgot to add this part in, i do agree that it should be shortened further, i don't think it needs a keyword though. Maybe "must be (first) summoned by (explanation of how to summon it)"

it implies a normal summon is still possible, and that the special summon only must be specific. It's to avoid confusion and to promote consistency.

@@asthmarap3925 but it literally says that it cannot be normal summoned/set. So it's not possible to do that.

We need more of this!

You're a good person, we definitely need a more welcoming community, atleast in my area

Problem is, the majority of people playing yugioh aren't that welcoming, at least that's what I experienced. Most of them just concentrate on winning, making pluses by selling you the cards at horrible prices and giving you the dumbest explanations on why it's so expensive, you can't really do a rogue/fun deck, because the competitive people come and say "why you don't play x, this deck is so bad, play x,y and z instead of this garbage" etc. at a rate like that, people aren't really attracted on coming back anymore, because they just hear complaints from others in a condescending way, even though others won't play said deck.

@@Andy4995 True, also had bad experiences, though my last visit to a local pre covid which was full of kids was actually pretty nice, many of them were playing their favorite decks like bewd because of the anime. Have high hopes that this trend continous here.

Before I left in 2010 (I came back in 2017.) I would give newer players advice and if they didnt have them staples

Yeah most of the time people don't read there cards

I dont know if your trying to point this out, but thats why people forget what their/other peoples cards do. people don't want to read paragraphs when they play games lol

@@EsperSofrito that's true, that they don't want to read it

hi

Sometimes the wordings of the cards can have multiple meanings.

I've not played Yu-Gi-Oh since elementary school, so I'm back to square 1 in learning the game

www.db.yugioh-card.com/yugiohdb/ It's passable but not nearly as useful as something like Scryfall is for Magic.

MTG still has a ton of unclear rulings, but MTG is still really good and far less convoluted. I whole heartedly agree with this.

Also MTG has a rulebook with their products (decks/fat boxes) that actually does a decent enough job of explaining the rules so you can read them and understand how to play. The YGO rulebook with the decks explains nothing about how to actually summon half the monster types there are.

@Soniku Raharu dude shut the hell up

i am the one that sell and not trade

Players are coming back to the game. I'm cool with players not being handsy with cards. I'm happy to ask to read a card but not hold it they can just set it in view for a moment The game needs to be more inclusive and teaching a new player can lead to new friendships. I'm building 2 decks. one cheaper but newer and more powerful metawise and then a more expensive flavorful deck I want for nostalgia sake a blend of new and old. Please try to bring in a new player of they need help you see or look lost when you combo off. God bless

Thats every card shop in a nut shell.

The combo part is why i stopped playing yugo. This was when the BLS and XYZ dragon supoort started to release. After a while the combos become too much and the opponent would try to confuse the combo usually so you wouldn't know what the end result of the chain would be, and considering that half the card say you can do this or cant do that it just made it too much, especially when the person playing the cards who knew the short hand of the combo wouldn't tell you what was going on. I know its not their responsibility, but when u go 5+ cards deep into a combo you should be willing to back track even if I cant respond at that point.

@@GIO77ification I big agree with this. I know I’m not going to understand every card you are playing, especially for decks I’ve never seen, but please just tell me what I’m up against. What board am I even facing and are my moves viable? Some people just want to win the game but not play it.

In other words, bring back the anime. Konami has actually spoken about that when a fan asked them, and they said that the animes aren't raking in enough money for them and to be fair, I blame it on bad writing, but Konami is right, I mean Yugioh Series 1 is the best easily, then Yugioh GX is very nostalgic, but it did get cancelled because Season 3 I believe was not doing so well. And Konami has already said that they will never make a dubbed season 4, cus it simply won't be making enough money. In other words, it all boils down to money, the card game is making them money, the anime, not so much. But in my opinion, the anime is definitely what will bring in new players, but the writing has to be better.

@@walkingcorpse1224 I agree but writing an original Yu-Gi-Oh story for 150 episodes on a weekly basis isn't exactly an easy job Also the reason why YGO Duel Monsters was the best is because it was a manga adaptation. It's easier to do a manga adaptation than an original story because all you have to do is pick which scenes to animate, which scenes to change etc.

@@walkingcorpse1224 the anime is a risky thing because it is itself just manga shilling. Sure GX to ARC-V got it backwards but that is all the anime is really useful for. Expecting FMA or something of its caliber to come out of it is way too much of a toll on them. Plus the anime never really explained what IS Yugioh TCG wise, especially the first one. The only one that had the potential to do so was GX but the writers didnt know what to do with the series.

I hope they will adapt the new Yu-Gi-Oh manga called "OCG Structures" into an anime. The protagonist actually is playing the real life OCG format with deckbuilding and stuff, it's a new breath of fresh air.

Definitely, I've played everything, VS, Duel Masters, the ones you mentioned, the old Digimon game..and Yugioh has similar rules, but the card text just complicates things so much..lol, like, you have to look in detail at the way things are worded to make sure that cards will work the way you want them to. With most other games you can tell just by reading some cards, but Yugioh you have to like deep dive and double check rulings and all that.

There's a new Digimon card game?

@@HongFeiBai Yes! It's been a little stagnant though unless you purchased from the early release. COVID has taken a toll on its traction to gain a large audience, but yet there is still a respectable community! It's a blast!

@@HongFeiBai yes, and it's absolutely amazing.

@@markfuston2714 my biggest concerning Yu-Gi-Oh is how absolutely chaotic the gameplay is... Like when I see people playing it on RU-vid these days, them and/or their opponents will spend 5 minutes on the opening turn which results in them burning half their deck... From the view point of any other major TCG on the market, that's crazy. If you did that in Magic or Pokémon, you wouldn't get to play a second game because half your deck would end up on the ban list... It's bonkers, lol

or when one of the players is a judge from a different area but they know each other

"Cardboard sweatlords" Someone graduated from the Seto Kaiba School of Savagery, I see 😂😂😂

Me and my group are specialized in rituals but only one player we have that has "meta" is the one person we all gang up on even in free for all just because the sheer amount of negates that we dont want to deal with. We play competitively but dont focus on negates unless its in small doses.

I agree that meta decks are expensive, but getting lower rarities and running alternatives can budget down to $100-$200 for most meta decks.

We do have a "weight class" in Yu-Gi-Oh. It's known as the tier system, now it's not official it is there. Tier 0 is a tier not many decks find their way there but decks that do find their way there on on the quick path to be hit by the banlist Tier 1 is the current meta if a deck can be considered capable of fighting the best there is it's considered tier 1 Tier 2 is rogue decks madolches would be considered in this tier

Same. It's easier for us to get into yugioh cause most of is know what's in store. Others it's just harder jumping Into something people already been mastering for years.

@@imbrawler1591 at the same time for someone who hasn't played in a significant amount of time will still have a lot of problems. A lot has changed over the years, and a lot of people played when they were younger and so didn't follow all rules correctly. Myself included. But with the right friends and watching the right RU-vidrs it becomes a lot easier to fall back in place more than ever.

@@heftylad Exactly right. YugiTibers are a huge reason the community is the way it is. Without YugiTubers a huge chunk would be missing from Yugioh, and it would be impossible for even us to be at the level you have to be to play competitively. Which brings up my point that not every duelist has to play competitively. I even find it more fun to create "weaker decks" from past formats only allowing those cards to build decks. Then you can play a classic game of yugioh without all the intense, and complicated combos of 2021.

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How does it feel to get VFDed :)

yeah

where can I use this to learn? I'm returning to the game.

Yeah agreed. This and I think the OCG manga is something about making owning a card shop and learning the game by giving tips on how to play the game and apparently how to craft decks

At first I hated it, but then I noticed every effect had card disadvantage and if every card kinda sucks, its cool to have a bunch of effects require a discard effect cause... its not the end of the world to discard a baby dragon

Why was rush dueling a smart idea? I need further emphasis and elaboration

But then they still have to learn the other stuff tho.

Yeah I liked that old yugioh was about trying to make disadvantages an advantage. So like if you dump a baby dragon you would play off of getting back the baby dragon. Nowadays it's all, I dump baby dragon, I activate its effect, I chain with my card that pops and searches when a dragon type is discarded. I summon back baby dragon, and activate its effect to pop a card. Then I link summon into guard dragon-

I felt that dude. You just wasted a whole card to destroy something that was already going to the graveyard

I agree, as a new player I was taken aback by the huge card pool and the long card text. I cut my losses and bought a speed duel battle city box. Not overwhelming at all.

Nah. Its actually low. Its just looks like it when you started on a wierd time and all the people you can played with might as well have a master's degree on the game. Its juat that the Player Skill ceiling is either too high, or has no bounds!

Not exactly. Players can just buy 3 of the newer structure decks and make a strong deck. Im new coming back for the first time in 14 years. I bought 3 Order of the spellcasters decks and will make the Cimoooooo budget Endymion pendulum deck

@@lanhikari2464 you got this homie. Just buy 3 of the same structure deck that you think is cool and you can do well. Then if needed you can add some special cards later ; )

Budget wise, no. Yugioh has always been amazing at structure decks, while other card games like Pokemon only started the "Good deck in a box" last year.

Basically that's how Yu-Gi-Oh! is meant be be played. Forget the high tier stuff. Just buy a starter deck and have fun with your buddies. That's how I still have fun with my friends and we are groups now.

I would just buy them a yu gi oh game like the tag force back in the day if they are interested in yugioh. No high cost, just the game and done, no meeting with people that I don't know of (especially in a mostly adult community) and probably more fun as they could live their anime fantasies.

Every card game can get crazy expensive when you want to be competitive

​@@defectivesickle5643 pokemon does a pretty good job at keeping things affordable for kids thanks to the mixed rarity system

This is pretty common in every competitive community you join. In the FGC its super common. Very few people in competitive game communities have the drive to welcome new players because everyone is trying to win. Showing others the path to victory could potentially put you in the oath to a loss. I played a pendulum player recently who kept pend summoning without using his extra deck pends and although I wanted to mention this, I also didn't want to do so because it would've lowered my chances to win the game.

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It's a competitive cardgame. If you can't stand being called bad, just get better. Or quit because you're apparently not competitively motivated. both fine.

I'm not a yugi-player, I play mtg, but I know the situation you're discribing. What I do, in tournament play, is similar. I will not help my opponent in any shape. In my mind that's what you sign up for when you go to a tournament: Use YOUR skills to win YOUR game. You're, so to speak "on your own" in that moment. What I do, however, is go over the mistakes my opponent made AFTER the game is resolved, so there's a learning experience. Because in my mind, it's hard/impossible to improve at something if you do not even know that you made a misktake.

@@profanemagic5671 the problem isn't that people are telling new players their mistakes its that they are doing it in a mean way and not an informative way.

you only need a meta deck at higher tier events and a lot of people buy the deck before just to sell it afterwards right to a vendor again, netting them a loss of like 20% the deck price. For locals you should be fine playing a halfway competitive strategy (this is where decks arent that expensive).

you can have decks for little money too? just won't compete with sweatmen at the tournaments

You right, it’s ridiculous

I can probably get a low costs meta or rouge deck for like $50 to $100. Just don't used to many (expensive) staple's

There's a rush duel now?

Nobody will buy it

yeah ... great... and then the kids have to re-learn the rules to play the original game.. sorry that IS not the correct way

@@Zanji1234 Oh no, people have to learn a new way to play a game. Oh, the humanity.

@@JanizMakudomaru you missunderstood me. The point was "get new players into ygo" and Rush duels for kids... and my point is: i don't think that kids which are happy with rush duels will switch to the Master rules when they like the Rus duel rules. It's basically a different game. It's not like Commander Format or something like that where the base rules are the same you only have a different restriction.

I think we will all come together as a community and Yugioh will be better. Im coming back and if money is an issue, players can just buy 3 of the newer structure decks and make a strong deck. Im new coming back for the first time in 14 years. I bought 3 Order of the spellcasters decks and will make the Cimoooooo budget Endymion pendulum deck

I even think a singleton format so it's about the HEART OF THE CARDS... THE LUCK OF THE DRAW LIKE IT USED TO BE.

what i did for my deck is i copied someone or got a structure deck then i make it different

Legacy of the Duelist is a great tool. The search features are very robust, you can even pick a card you like and sort the rest of your library by cards that can interact and combo with it. You can build an entire deck on your own if you just select a single card first!

have them steal a challenge deck they liked, then help them to improve it, grinding all of a challenge deck's cards is pretty easy, spam surrender or exodia or crusadia otk till you get every card 3 times, so 165 times max and less than that for most, I've won a few ladder games just playing Dinomists straight from the challenge duel with no extra deck and a few changes (filler spell/trap removed, some mediocre traps in, messed with ratios a little 3 of the challenge deck cards I wanted more 1-2 of the ones I wanted less) beyond that 2 great resources for link evolution specifically are the youtube channel joninjo which has tons of deck profiles and the website linkevolutionpro which has search pages for finding what cards are in all the packs and challenge duels(there are also link evolution tournament decks from april on there if looking for that, though not a perfect representation of what's possible), the itsbradz discord also has a linkevolution specific deckbuilding channel if looking for advice on cards to substitute for missing ones or whether a deck works/is extremely strong '.'

it's a far cry from needing mana like mtg. if you can still do something with cards and effects it's crazy how much you can do on a turn. I haven't played since 2005. But heck, I'll try learning Endymion pendulums for my first deck. Order of the spellcasters 3X structure deck build.

Toad deck , windup deck and six samurai deck from 2010-2011 say hi XD

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Omg I'm so annoyed of the whole blue-eyes and dark magician legacy support. Its just so dumb that those decks get support ,but decks that really need support are getting bad or even no support at all, like galaxy/photon or volcanics.

If they make new legacy support they should make other older cards into full archetypes like gate guardian

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@@youssefmohammed6e20 😑

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Yep that's about right

Right? I think that's where Konami messed up, when they dropped the handheld games, like the world championship games (2011 comes to mind for me)

@@IcyHyoudou maybe master duels might do that, but cross-platform like duel links. Even so, Konami should take a long hard look at the game and plan the direction they want it to go. But I found they'll do that.

@@hickknight oh nice :0 I'll have to look into master duels, that sounds really interesting. And honestly, i agree with that. Konami really does need to take a good hard look into what they could do for the future of the game. I don't know if you've heard, but major retailers like Walmart and Target are about to pull out of the tcg market and that's kinda bad :c good for card shops, but man does it hit in the memories of buying packs eons ago xd

Exactly, World wide edition for the gba got me from only liking the anime to liking the card game.

Duel carnival for 3ds was amazing

I mean, at my locals it was basicaly the same. I go to locals in Aachen and we basicaly just have a Bunch of tournament players sitting there, with the few odd ones out. But most of them are so helpful that it probably, as long as a you have a little perseverance, it doesn't take long to build a competent Deck as a newbie so yeah. I think if you go to locals you'll have a pretty easy time learning ygo

Lol I've watched several of your videos!

In Arc-V universe, the tournaments are actually divided by age groups

yeah

If I recall, the reason we don't see Traditional Format events, is because apparently not enough people show up. (This was stated by Konami) so while they hear the demand for it, they simply don't see it when it does happen. Also we do kind of have a "Draft Format", if I recall there was a product that was designed specifically for that.

The age group thing might work tbh. I have a problem with people saying yugioh needs to become simpler, because that's what keeps most of the existing player base in the game. There's also no proof that its a problem for the game, as its growing regardless. When you think about it it kinda makes sense. The rules aren't on loaded all at the same time, there's been whole formats where the if versus when ruling wasn't relevant in any of the good decks. Given how much money it takes to invest in a deck, most new players stick with one for a while, and get accustomed to their specific rulings over time.

@@romkin1197 If it was better supported then more people would turn up. It's like organising a concert for your band without putting up any posters and complaining when people don't show

This is a good fact, since both Pokemon and Magic The Gathering are significantly cheaper than Yugioh.

@@walkingcorpse1224 we were talking about this at locals today. I mean I know konami needs to make money but what's wrong with let's say putting droplets or accesscode as a common in ots

@@tonykidd6937 as the game keeps losing players, Komoney feels they need those pull rates to keep the super nerds buying boxes. We need a new way to monetize other than milking whales.

Exactly this, let alone in countries in latinamerica where a droplets set is almost 2 month of pay for an average income person

@@theone1480 Well said! Konami relies on the whales who buy cases of booster packs rather than regular consumers of Yu-Gi-Oh! Products. Business is business but it would be nice to have a play set of affordable droplets 😂

If we got a Battle City like Pokemon Go with Duel Disks I'd go crazy.

@@casono Same!

Just have it work like Zexal, a tablet can turn into a duel disk and wear AR specs

Honestly, if they put effort into something even remotely close to that, yugioh would become a world wide phenomenon. As in it would be just as major as sports.

This is a joke but you're also right A duel disk + AR specs that responded and showed different things by interacting with said duel disk would be the soonest thing ever They could probably figure out how to wirelessly hook it up to big TV screens and recorders for like world championship matches and stuff too

That’s hilarious, Duel Links doesn’t even scratch the surface with how deep rulings go lol

@@eduardogutierrez3753 ah i thought this was for something else, but either way it did a far better job teaching me mechanics than any of the other games did, and just a bit ago i learned what pendulum summoning was, only reason rulings doesnt go deep is that deck size and boards are small and we only go up to xyz, we dont have pendulum or link yet

Yugioh players in my area were always douches to newcomers

That fucking sucks they are known as elitists and they can rot in hell.

Its will get better with Covid. People wanna interact again. People realize you need others to play this game. More people playing is a good thing and teaching should be the first thing they wanna do. Not only to show off how good their decks are but show the new folk what its all about. Hope staff gets better in stores

I remember going to my first locals tourney. The guy working helped me build a deck with zombie madness structure. Won my first tournament and kept going every weekend. Made a lot of friends then graduated hs and stopped playing. Tried getting back in the game after 10 years. Settled on speed duels and not a lot of people play it, sucks.

Keep at it. Yugioh is so fun.

My school has a yugioh club and before covid we got about 30 people a week who already knew how to play or wanted to know how to play so most of the people at our locals are from the school. Most of the people who try learning also stay.

Saddly that's how it is everywhere for everything. No matter where you'll go you'll find toxic people. Don't focus on them, focus on the nice players and what you enjoy about the game.

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Ay nice!, I’m around that age and I taught my friend to this year, who is older then myself, and I think what drew him to the game was the strategy of the game once you get how to play and the mech art cards. I taught him with a duel links/speed duel format since it’s not as complicated at the tcg yet, we used tabletop simulator and edo pro. I taught him the concept of normal summon and special summon first with fur hires, since they are very easy to special summon and the effects aren’t too complicated with the limited card pool of duel links, now he’s playing trains!

I was there! You forgot Wind-Ups and Inzektors. xD

Yep, but that's the thing, the age group is 24 - 34, it's rare when u see an 18 year old playing and even rarer when u see a 40+ year old playing which is evident to Yugioh players more and more likely qutting passed 35, or the other possibility, they become the last players around.

Weneed duel academy school

yes

Yeah because they decided to try to use the old trash ass cards again which is basically what duel links did, which sucks and nobody wants that.

@@TraaaaaasshBooooaaaatttt I'm a disabled player Speed Duels were perfect for me its slower and simpler like the game used to be.

I mean, speed duels is great bc it’s how I’m getting my nephew into the game. I also had him download duel links to play when I’m not with him end duel links is how I got back into yugioh this last year after not playing since goat format. I’ve been playing duel links for a couple years before I decided to get into the actual game again. So idk. Speed duels do seem kinda dead in my city though. No one really plays. I think that’s a shame Bc I’d love to take my nephew to a speed duel tournament once covid passes

@@TraaaaaasshBooooaaaatttt Other people definitely like using card that are in the anime, just because Celtic guardian is a non effect monster with shit stats, docent mean people wouldn't LOVE to use Celtic guardian if given the chance they just CANT. To each their own, i will keep on having fun with Lajinn, lord of D and blue eyes in speed duels.

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This is why i left the game its boom or bust negate everything or you lose

@@donovanberserk4993 Yeah, the negate everything boards just speak volumes about the player. They really don't want to play. They just want to build the castle, live in it, and move on. They don't want challenges or obstacles.

Exactly, every Yugioh player I know are all Kaibas lol

I play online, and people don't really spam negates like that. Don't place a bunch of people in one group.

Facts. If it wasn’t for duel links I’d never come back at all.

@@ColdEmperor Legacy of the Duelist for me. I can play with all the older cards, avoid new summoning mechanics all I want and just play with cards that would require me to buy them all second hand since if I wanted to play the real deal I'd have to do just that because there isn't any set around that just has older cards. I just wish I could set the rules so that things like the link and pendulum zones were gone or ban certain mechanics, like revert back to certain master rules or eras so that you could host your own online tournaments with custom rules or something. Letting the computer handle the rulings is much easier for the weird card interactions but even so the biggest problem is the unwritten rules. I'll say it again, unwritten rules should not be a thing, the game would be far more appealing to new players if cards did what they said rather than weird interactions that you'd have to look up online to know are even a thing. Because nothing is going to turn players off like being told that the cards don't actually do what they say because no one is going to want to spend all the time to research dozens of cards that they wanted to build a deck out of just to try and play the damn game to find out if the things even work as written. That would be the biggest improvement to the games approachability and would actually shift up the meta quite a bit as a lot of things would change for the game. Then of course you can tackle the problems such as pricing, card availability, support for older archetypes so they can actually be a thing. Support for things that aren't Dragons/Fiends/Spellcasters, Light/Dark, making everything new a Link/Pendulum card. We all know Ritual summoning is the worst kind of summoning and it's not that it's just not as good as other types of summoning, it's literally just bad. If ritual monsters were kept in the extra deck like how it was in the anime, then that would be an improvement to the game flow by making them less of a dead card. Further I think another turn off to new players was a joke Team APS did in one of their videos where a new player wanted to play Blue-Eyes and the joke was the deck had three Blue-Eyes, they were all in the grave and the field had all kinds of other monsters OTHER than Blue-Eyes. That splashability of cards is nice but you have a serious issue when every deck has Ash Blossoms or are running Needlefiber or Halxifibrax or some other super splashable card that starts combos with everything else in the game. I know it would be all but impossible to make a rule about banning cards in decks if you have too much variety but that's a huge problem that new players are facing is that they don't see a deck be about a certain thing, at best most decks are Half one archetype and the other half if just an engine of everything else to get those cards out sometimes or it's the other way around. Plus you have the issue of these super long combos that make turns take 15 minutes and a game will last 30-45 minutes which sounds kind of reasonable because that's what some anime episodes take to do but then you see that it's just 2-3 turns that's ridiculous. That comes from the game not having a resource requirement to do certain things so you can infinitely special summon so long as you have an effect that lets you do it. Maybe it's a bit controversial but if all effects were hard once per turn unless stated otherwise that would stop a lot of these recycling of cards just to flood your own field with stuff and then if there was a summon limit such as only 1 summon of each type per turn, so 1 Link, 1 pendulum, 1 xyz, 1 synchro, 1 fusion, 1 ritual, 1 normal summon per turn would also stop these engines that make you sit and wait 12 minutes for your opponent to stop playing with themselves. Yeah it's harsh but I can't see any way that kills this complaint about the game that keeps new players from even wanting to touch the cards. Sure some decks would suffer greatly because they would be stopped from summoning a bunch of cards like they normally could. Basically if they put Ritual monsters into the extra deck then it would be an easy rule to implement, Only 1 summon of each type from the extra deck per turn. Then they could errata specific cards that were designed to get out a lot of monsters of a specific archetype rather than Generic summoners, so cards for Harpies would get an errata to get around the ruling so long as they were specifically for summoning other Harpy cards. That would kill a ton of splashable cards that were used outside their archetype but I think that would work to get decks back to actually having themes or archetypes and that would work to help Konami know what needs to be buffed like Volcanics or Noble Knights since they would see that these archetypes need more support to do certain things and that could be solved with releases that give those archetypes more targeted support rather than just a generic card the every deck would run but would finally bring the bottom tier decks into some usage and prevent those cards from being snatched up by every deck under the sun. Which I think would also help the prices since some cards would change prices since you wouldn't want things like Ash Blossom for your deck unless you were running Ghost Girls or something rather than it being a staple 3 in every deck.

@@ColdEmperor duel links is fun

I've had the same exact idea!

YEP, they need to bring back the original anime and play out more storylines. GET ORIGINAL MAI's voice actor back ; )

@@Habeev07 His comment is saying we should shy away from the original anime's style completely and make the anime focus on modern cards, the current format, grounded realistic fiction approach, etc.

This would be so easy to do if they just followed the original anime’s character, but have them 10 years older so that their game progresses like it has in real life

Don t think that would change the fact ... that the game is just bad... and thats the biggest problem

Yeah. Yugioh is old. They’ve made too many changes to the game.

Yeah one year and half ago i started duel links cause I was interested in yugioh but didn't know jack shit even though I made an account 3 years ago before this but quickly quit. After playing around and watching dkayed i managed to learn the rulings and some intricacies but still there aren't a lot of the confusing interactions from the physical card game in the digital but still it is a good stepping stone to start learning. But i think that if you start with duel links there is a high chance you will stay with duel links cause it is cheaper and not everyone has a local card shop or place to play with people.

So far every card game is pay to win by nature, and ygo is even less p2w than most tcgs Graveyard being important only adds depth and strategy to the gameplay Combo decks atm are more around 4 minutes per turn and they are nothing but autopilot. Having consistant access to cards only makes the game less luck-dependant, as well as adding strategy ( since you'll need to choose what do you want to search ) But yeah apparently modern YGO is autopilot

Same, even Dragon Ball Super/The New Digimon game takes precedence. I was like one of only three people that’d go regularly and the other guy moved and one works at that time now... 😭

There are like 3 hobby shops on the highway I live on. One is HARD a MTG shop, the other is Warhammer with some MTG, and the one I hang at is primarily Yugioh/Pokemon.

ok? Nobody cares or asked about *you*

Yeah I went to all 3 game shops in town and only one carried yu-gi-oh, and none had any locals.

Same, we have 3 games stores in my city, none of them have Yu-Gi-Oh events. I need to travel a hour if I want to go to locals. One store, the biggest one and town and where a lot of big MTG, Pokemon, and Vanguard events are held, has flat-out banned Yu-Gi-Oh after a few big incidents occurred, one involving something gross happening in the bathroom that nobody will talk about. The other two stores sell product, but have no interest in hosting the events because the player base just isn't there. It is a tough prospect when you want to get back into the game.

This would be great! The Synchro era and Duel Terminal was where I really learned how to play.

If they did that and also started reprinting older cards with this intention in mind, I could see it being very good for many kinds of yugioh players

they could make "era" reprint sets.

so . . . duel links ?

I'll get my phd in dueling

@@horacthy8577 if there ia enough demand, mau be phd on dueling Will become reality.

@@horacthy8577 you're going to become Dr. Crowler?

it might happen if it becomes a large enough of a sport like football or something

@@ad-skyobsidion4267this mau sound strange but i think it Will.

thats what I tried talking about with the MTG group on discord. I don't play yugioh but I keep up with new sets, and watch out for highlights, deck builds, etc. I tried to explain how complex Yugioh is now. They didn't believe me, they still stand on MGT being the most complex and deep game. They thought just cause you can play cards outside game doesn't make it complicated. When I started expanding on link zones, pendelums, syncro and fussion diff. They were to stubborn to refute it.

lol

I mean ash pretty cheap now.

@@jarom1144 yeah kinda

Everyone starts somewhere tbh. I was 10 when I received my first structure deck. I kept most of the cards in moderately played condition, but I stuck around long enough with the help of my dad and friends tbh. I think finding people to play with is something that depends on the individual

@@atomicchowder5619 same

It will back to 2 format later, just wait for few months. The v format will gone and combined with premium

They’re rebooting it Again??? They just rebooted it in 2017

But do you think people in the Yu-Gi-Oh community are willing to make a concerted effort promoting Rush Duels? Do you believe that influencers like TeamSamuraiX or Cimo are fine making a lot of content based on Rush Duels and educating people about it?

Exactly, Yu-Gi-Oh sevens also aiming at kids will also help, that anime also looks of a certain quality which is always a plus

Yeah, I've played Yugioh tcg casually with friends and online mixed causal and competitive for nearly 5 years as well as watching all the animes. I love Rush duels so much, and I know they're meant to be for young people to learn. I really hate this community for shitting on Sevens and Rush duels, a format and show not aimed at them, for no good reason and therefore pushing people away. Same for speed duels

And Rush Duels...suck

Imagine going to a tournament and you are greeted by a 6 year old Now that would be funny

@@mingustheprotector5192 Agreed! I’d also be impressed.

Even back in the day, before XYZs and stuff, when I played more "seriously" it was an issue. Like, there was this kid with a ridiculous deck, since his dad bought him everything, but he didn't know how to pilot the deck and wouldn't listen to advice.

props to you for going after old school theme, can respect that. I myself go for gimic decks and they're fun while absolutely unbalanced in loosing way. Its a lot more fun playing with a friend rather then randoms. You should try it.

I dont know why its hard for you to build a competitive deck. I mean I guess as a teenager its a little harder but you can build a competent deck for about $1-200. It may not be the deck that you want, want but there are many budget options dude.

Jarom it’s really expensive to get decks going. Many important cards are $60+ and a lot of people don’t have hundreds of dollars to spend on a single deck

@@flerpmcflerp6996 Exaclty booster boxes ate over $50 these days thats crazy. Yugioh pricing is increasing and I dont think that is nescessary.

@@jarom1144 you have to remember not every teen can just rack up 200 dollars and most teens don't have allowance which is another factor and most budget decks people preach of get clapped if they don't buy expensive 20+ cards and most of the time the teen will have to get these cards in person ( not saying some don't have access to tcgplayer or anything of the sort) and when they do vendors may not have the cards they're looking for since they'll mainly have the expensive cards that adults will want to buy and to a adult who plays competitive 9-50+ for a singular card may not seem like much but to a teen on a budget thats a good amount of their budget there's also the problem of parents not wanting to support their kids playing competitive for they see it as "useless" or other ways now taking in all these things into account I hope you understand why a teen building a 200 dollar deck may be hard for them but I will admit if they want to build a meta deck this is the format to do so since this format has some pretty decent prices for meta decks

Play DDD, it's budget rogue and is insanely consistent and hella budget since it has a structure deck, it wrecks meta decks and no hits on the banlist

Speed duels are a joke. It's not dueling. It's not Yu-Gi-Oh. It's crap for crap.

Yes. Yes it is

They're more of a spin-off

Yes

@@King_Cova nah, they're a really easier way to understand the game and people just hate it because It's not what they play, because people like to just insult things.

yeah, I quit Pokemon TCG when Yugioh players migrated to it. I got accused of cheating and they wanted a count of cards and explain what I did on previous turns. I was not having none of that.

There's actually an old DvD where Joey teaches the basics of the game, but that was back in the Duel Monsters era.

@@wakkaseta8351 the stuff of legend.

Konami should do a lot but at the end of the day they don’t do anything lol

Ya pendulum arn't bad (like simply sake), their not as bad links

hi

@@chriscm2711 cool, what deck are you using?

@@sayahhx8300 I have like 5 different decks lol

@@chriscm2711 oh lol when I got back into yugioh like 5 years ago I went back to the cards that got me into yugioh, which were harpies. Now I play harpies, and toons. I want to bubble cubics next. But idk I like playing not meta decks but cubics are just way under powered lol

@@sayahhx8300 same

Those same kids are grown now and they're catering towards that same audience (young adults).

I think we will all come together as a community and Yugioh will be better. Im coming back and if money is an issue, players can just buy 3 of the newer structure decks and make a strong deck. Im new coming back for the first time in 14 years. I bought 3 Order of the spellcasters decks and will make the Cimoooooo budget Endymion pendulum deck

Once the young adults grow old and stop playing, yugioh will die from the lack of kids starting it.

This is why I think it's great that Konami came up with Rush Duels. Way easier to get into the card game (since no other summoning methods than tribute) and YGO Sevens' characters are kids (with very few exceptions). Older fans/player might find it stupid but this is what we needed for the younger generation imo.

@@mikai4738 A lot of older fans hate Rush Duels and Sevens, but they have to understand that they are not the target demographic for Rush. Master Duels are doing just fine without an anime, but the anime needs to bring kids to the game, so I think Rush Duels and Sevens are a great way to make the game easier so kids can get into it, and if they want to play a different way they can start with Speed Duels, and then they can "graduate" to Master Duels.

Thats the case for almost all TCGs. The banlist is actually a generous approach. in other games after a couple of years entire sets get retired.

@@Anonym-mh7sz Set rotation isn't a bad thing though. I don't need to worry about how a card printed ten years ago interacts with something that just came out while playing MTG if I stick to the modern format. Or I could try and figure it all out by playing a format that allows all those cards like commander. Yu-gi-oh has been around long enough that Konami could very easily implement something similar.

@@jonathandorton3337 Ban lists are infinitely better, set rotations will just murder any deck you play and most locals don't have expanded formats. I played Pokemon and IM SO GLAD I LEFT. The deck I was playing would be fully rotated. Thank God for banlists. Why would I want to buy a new deck each rotation cause I can't spend 1 minute to understand how some interaction works.

@@jonathandorton3337 I'd rather spend money on a card once and keep playing a deck for years than spending money on new decks just to be able to even sit down to play

Cool idea. Im coming back to the game after playing from 2002-2005. Im gonna build a deck that is more expensive and has the FLAVOR I like. But im also wanting to just see what the newest stuff is all about. I literally bought 3 Order of the Spellcasters structure decks and gonna build the Cimooooooooo on YT 3x ENYMION PENDULUM structure deck. I will be so lost keeping track of spellcounters but it seems fun and kinda meta enough to not lose every game. I hope. But if I do... Oh well. It about having fun playing cards you relate to. HEART of the cards.

Yea im 31 and coming back to the game after 2002-2005 era. I found that learning wont be as hard as I thought. once you got your material on the field or hand you start to remember which ones help you bring out certain monsters in your extra deck and form combo memories. Now understanding what the OPP does will be a learning experience everytime XD. It takes time but eventually ill understand the deck im building to get back into the game. Its kind of a bit of old and new. Its a Horus Black Flame Dragon Lvl 8/Hieratic's deck... Splashing Claw of Hermos/Red-Eyes Black Dragon Sword, Ultimaya Tzolkin/Crystal Wing/Star Eater/ Beelze/Queen Dragun/King Atum, etc... Its not meant to be competitive but it has all the old school and new school dragon FLAVOR I love

@@Habeev07 You could try playing Chaos Dragons, that was a really good deck back in 2011 or so, which spawned from a deck called Disaster Dragons.

it's overwhelming at first but it's not as complicated as it looks, there's a lot of stuff but it's not as complicated as it looks besides a dozen of uncommon rulings

Am 12 I started playing at like 7 lol I just think the wording on through cards are annoying AF and they should be more simple I kinda wait the game now and also its expensive my dad yes prob spent over 500 dollars on this game i even know what I was buying for like 3yrs lol good game tho

To me Yugioh was at it's best back in 2005-2008. That was how the game was supposed to be played. Normal monsters, effect monsters, ritual monsters, fusion monsters, spells, traps, normal summons, and special summons, which were usually only performed by using spells, or trap cards. Only a few monster cards at the time allowed players to search their deck's to special summon certain monsters, and only a few monsters had special summoning requirements. Once the 5'ds era came along, it started becoming bloated, and the game drastically changed. It was still good in my opinion until the Pendulum, and XYZ cards came along. I was somewhat fine with Synchro monsters. The game was still really complex back in 2005-2008, but it wasn't all about monster effects, summoning requirements, and elaborate combos. The power creep wasn't so out of control like it is now. Also the most iconic cards of the anime/manga were still relevant, and viable. I used to go whole duels without performing a special summon back then. I played a few duels back in the day that lasted over 50 turns, where both me and my opponent could not get through each-others defenses. Those were the most fun matches for me personally. I even played a few duels back in the day where I won because my opponent ran out of cards before I did. I remember the draw phase was a crucial part of the game as well because back then decks did not play themselves. The game was about knowing when to hold certain monsters, spells, or traps in your hand, or risk putting them on the field, because you had to think about the possibility of not drawing a card you needed during your next draw phase, or the possibility of your opponent destroying your monsters, spell, or trap cards. You also had to worry about if your opponent liked to play using morphing jar, cyber jar, or morphing jar#2, which could disrupt your strategies. The game was just so much better back when it was in it's prime.

I'm going to be honest one of those young players and I don't even know where my loçals are if I even have one

This is all very true. And these issues are becoming more and more concentrated. Yugioh players are extremely allergic to the idea of card rotation, but the card pool is simply too large to keep power creep at bay.

Sure! Did you know that Umi also buffs thunder-type monsters? It happens in Duel Links, don't know if it's actually in the rules

You’re right. These rules feel like getting cheated when you are new. Super discouraging.

@@adelsotiago3237 The Umi Field Spell has always boosted Thunder-types since its release way back in 2001 or 2002.

@@DaemonRayge I see... What happened is that they did not add Thunder in portuguese translation (which is my main language)

100% agree on the "missing timing" thing. Like that always felt like a "glitch" to me. This is a gosh darn, physical card game. It shouldn't have "glitches".

I wish ygo in the TCG would be like in the OCG where they get multiple rarities of a card right from the get go and you can decide whether you want to spend a lot for a shiny version or just play a common.

@Soniku Raharu yeah they do. People in the OCG would never accept their policy like we have it in the TCG. People there would boycott the game, same like they now boycott ps5 because ps5 controllers there do now have the same buttons as in the west and they were used to their own button layout. Meanwhile people in the TCG areas seem to be way more resilient to bad behaviour and cash grab of companies which is the reason why konami uses the TCG as a cash cow and shortprints cards that have proven to be important in the meta. Theres no reason for them to change it like in the OCG, because the TCG is dumb enough to pay those prices. Why would they change a good working strategy? Yugioh in the OCG is one of the best card games existing. There they care for the players and they give everyone the opportunity to be able to build a cheap meta deck (commons possible). You even have to take a look at their OCG website, its new and fresh. Meanwhile the official TCG website looks like out of the year 2003. I might want to add that the card quality is way higher in the OCG then the TCG. Have you ever had an original OCG card in your hands? It feels way better, semms like they print it on a thicker material there. I mean i do get that the OCG is their main area but why cant you give us that quality of a game aswell? Yugioh would compete way better with common card games here (like magic or pokemon), because most of the negative sites of yugioh just arent true for the OCG.

We’re on the same boat. I lose so many times but I genuinely don’t care. I have a good time and at least I’m not looking at a TV screen not interacting with anyone in the physical, real world

In the same boat as well the only issue I have is when you run into that really competitive player who gets mad and takes the game serious when you don’t shuffle a certain way. Especially since remote duels are kinda the standard amidst covid and they expect you to try and keep your hand revealed on screen at all times. Only those types of people I HATE at locals

I'm not gonna lie to you. Half the friends I have, as a 22 year old at the moment, are thanks to Yugioh. I used to have more as a younger kid, but times change, people change. And they're the closest friends I've made. Even now, I even got to know a person that worked in a neighboring store, because we both played yugioh. We might not play together, but we can talk about how fricking lucky he was to get his third damn Nibiru. I was a kid collecting since I was four years old. Around 13, my parents made me throw out all the cards I had collected up to that point as punishment, cause I guess having a single D in middle school with mostly As and Bs, as a child with ADHD, was unacceptable. What hurt, wasn't losing all the cards. It was the fact that I lost the things that started off almost all the friendships I've ever made up to that point.

I think we will all come together as a community and Yugioh will be better. Im coming back and if money is an issue, players can just buy 3 of the newer structure decks and make a strong deck. Im new coming back for the first time in 14 years. I bought 3 Order of the spellcasters decks and will make the Cimoooooo budget Endymion pendulum deck

@@yoshistover5881 Woah, are we the same person!? Your story is basically the same as mine...except I turn 22 this year. One of the only cards I have left from my old collection happens to be one of the very first 9 cards I ever got my hands on (I got a booster pack). It's Warrior Dai Grepher from Legacy of Darkness. I keep it in the last Majestic Star Dragon sleeve I had before everything was lost/given away because it reminded me of the first tin I ever got (which was the Majestic Star Dragon tin...obviously.😅) I'm always going to keep him in that sleeve in my binder because it shows my humble beginnings, yet also shows how far I've come and all of those friends I made along the way that are my closest friends today.

Unfortunatley they can't, because it would become an advertisement and violate some laws surrounding that. At least in the U.S. That is why in the U.S. version of the yugioh anime, we don't actually have text boxes on the cards that appear.

@@romkin1197 make RU-vid videos then! I'm sure there could be a workaround.

@@Sheikah_Architect That is Bandai Namco's work around when they have the Gundam Build Fighters anime which is an anime that shows building techniques and Toy products, they put the anime series on RU-vid but put the more serious Gundam shows like Iron Blood Orphan on Networks

Vrains did head in a similar direction. They covered at least the more common questions, like Links dont have level or can't turned to defense, when get they get bounced to the hand they return to the extra deck etc... It didn't really covered complex rulings but it was WAAAAY closer to the actual card game then anything we saw with Yugioh classic or GX. Less anime exclusive cards, actual strategy, MR4 was basically the anime format with gouki, trickstar, altergeist, salamangreat, rokket(aka dragon link)... they all saw competitive play. And I hope that they continued that in sevens and what ever comes after that.

That would be fun.

There have been attempts but they don't progress much.

I was with you. I could memorize a few 'lines' with a deck or a few things few targets I need to "hand trap". But the game is just insane. I don't think you could do it unless you watched these lines develop. I could buy a structure deck and I wouldn't even know what to do with the cards.

Tbh I don’t really get the point of keywords. They save space on a card obviously, but games like magic have so many that I would actually rather have the text on the card. Plus, there are some cards that use those mechanics but have rules or exceptions, like the sky striker equip and attacking twice but only for monsters.

I know I’m hella late, but kids actually learn this pretty easily because they’re like sponges when it comes to new things. I know this is anecdotal, but I taught my 7 year old niece how to play Yugioh recently and I taught her the mechanic and after a few hours she understood how to play. The only difficult part was explaining what certain words mean or how to pronounce them. I think as adults we try to figure out the why things do what they do making it more complicated for ourselves. This game isn’t easy to learn, I just think kids learn how to play just easier if that makes sense.

@@TheQuilava96 Fair, and I take your point And the words I can imagine are a pain, but great for comprehension I'm sure.

That might give Konami the idea to do sort of what wizards is doing atm. Print special edition packs that cost more and only have foiling and specific cards. which will cause them to push it more as a collectors item than a playing item. Wizards is getting kind of greedy lately and Konami could easily do the same thing if they care more about the bottom line that player satisfaction.

TCG: no

THIS!!! I used to play a lot back then, but xyz and pendulums entered and I was OUT. I don't want to play a game where I lose on turn 1. Sorry, not sorry.

@@Vizorbot now days the match boil down to summoning monsters with Omni negate( red eye dragoon, cyber dragon infinity) or just drawing all your cards in 1 turn and preventing your opponent from doing anything during his turn. If your deck cannot at least draw 2 or 3 cards in each of your turns then you loose, it also absolutely needs to have recovery. Am just man... this is why Pokémon just obliterate yugioh when it comes to player vs player

Have you forgotten the many synchro spam decks? I still remember my opponent stealing my monsters then filling a board with synchro monsters and one punch me. You are the remembering the casual scene with friends. The competitive scene hasn't changed much. With friends I could set 1 and pass and not die the next turn, when the competitive people showed up at my locals they otk me turn 2. My deckbuilding had to improve to keep up while a lot of friends just stopped playing because they couldn't keep up.

@@omega5040 exactly, in Pokémon it’s extremely difficult guaranteed to clearly win in just 2 turns you need to snipe Pokémon that pose a treat to your team, in yugioh if you opponent is even slightly competent in competitive duels, then the duel becomes all or nothing in 1 turn

@@deepsoul8034 Pokemon has draw 4 cards you can use every turn. That said energy cards limit how much you can go off in a turn. You think yugioh needs a restrictive mechanic?

Thats exactly my main reason i quit tcg (pokemon and vanguard). Imagine for ths first time in 3 years you finally win and got 1st place .......... on local shop weekly turney