Wil Wheaton: Trauma, Depression & Self-Discovery 

When he is ready, I agree.

@@dkecskes2199 has he declined an offer from her before?

Is something the matter with Jim? I live under a rock im sorry. Hope none.

@Taichii XSan isn’t there something the matter with all of us?

Sure, if they want to

Consider it done. I'm sorry you dealt with that. 😢

I see you. Sending peace and gentleness.

Love, comfort, and healing vibes, from me to you! I know you’re an amazing person and have a purpose! We all do! I hope you find yourself and your journey is less painful daily!

No it's not; he's a hate monger. I'm sorry what happened to him but he is not mentally healthy. Mentally unstable people should neither make policy nor should they tell others how to live.

I ended my relationship with my mom. We have to do what is healthy for us. Good for you for taking care of you!

Ditto. Your life story could be mine. Like serial killers, narcissists seem to follow a pattern.

I put my dad in prison after 40 years

@@sheilalopez3983 They really do, don't they? The part he said about being the person he needed really resonated with me. Sharing our stories helps others and that's why we do it. Also, it's cathartic to share vs. hiding in shame and keeping their secrets.

It's an unfortunate and harmful that leaving your parent(s) is taboo. It's socially okay if it's a non-relative like a friend or boss, but when it's family suddenly you are seen as the bad person. Leaving your parent(s) when they are physically, emotionally, mentally, and/or spiritually harmful should be more than acceptable, it should be nearly expected and met with support that you've gone and survived trauma caused by ppl that should have protected you from having to experience it in the first place.

I notice similarities with each of the cast members within current life. Chris, tried to keep peace and died. River was an amazing human, and he died. Will and his journey, corey and his wild life.

Right?! When he was describing his father, I thought, oh my gosh, I bet that's where all his emotions from Stand By Me came from!

"I couldn't give s shit about my old man and he hadn't laid a hand on me since I was three and that was for eating bleach under the sink." That line always rang out as his character's truth too. So sad to think it was method.

Who was the casting director who saw those things in them, and what are their thoughts now, I wonder.

@@pechaa casting directors and others in the industry are often energy vampires. Jim Carrey talks about how his director encouraged him to stay depressed and not heal so that he could play his part better in Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless mind

Incredible

Well she said ‘not in the way he wanted’ but I’d say ‘not in the way he needed’

Excellent insight, Maria, and decision making! We all definitely need our Self-parenting skills to override our thoughts of putting things off! It's cool that Wil Wheaton inspired you to make that decision to take care of yourself! Good job, girl!

Right on

Nice

Shut up Wesley.

i did this with both of my parents, first dad than mom, sometimes you have to make such a hard desition even if the heart hurts, wouldnt be were i am today if i hadnt cut ties with them.

@@noc1891 I understand & relate. I emancipated at 16, after leaving home, tho the word home is used loosely.

So much harder to cut off BOTH parents. I say as someone who only had to cut off contact with my abusive mom by still have my wonderful dad.

Absolutely. I had to cut off my dad and still have my very emotionally absent mother in my life. It was extremely hard to cut off my dad bc that was the parent that I had the emotional connection with but I couldn’t handle the Dr. Jekyl and Mr. Hyde of it all anymore.

Love your videos. Thank you.

The end of WWI had absolutely everything to do with the Flu and lung TB outbreak that occurred killing millions. In nature, the biological conflict linked with a territorial fear (just what it means-a fear in your territory, you’re home, you’re community, etc.) is a widening of the bronchia (tissue loss). Your body attempts to widen your bronchia in order to allow more air into your lungs to give you more strength and energy to fight to keep your territory safe. Stay with me.......The biological conflict linked with a death fright impacts the lungs. The lungs attempt to grow larger in order to allow more air in because breath equals life, as we all know. No breath equals death. While you are in the fear or death fright conflict, you notice no symptoms of “disease”, except you have cold hands, cold feet, you can’t sleep, you awaken at 3 AM every night, you have little appetite. During the war, millions of people were in fear of the bombing of their homes and cities where the war was most active. Fearing for their lives, their loved ones in the war, their ability to survive. The food in the stores was sparse due to shortages. This lasted for 4 long years! The longer the conflict, the worse the healing phase. Within 2 weeks of the German Chancellor announcing the end of WWI, these millions of people ALL went into the healing phase all at the same time. It is during the healing phase that you experience symptoms of illness! What is the healing phase of the bronchia widening? Severe bronchitis, pneumonia. The body attempts to refill this lost tissue and you experience inflammation, fever, coughing, body aches, fatigue, etc. What is the healing phase of the extra lung tissue that grew? Decomposing of the tissue by TB bacteria and fungi. The symptoms of this healing phase are: severe coughing up of blood and tissue, fever, inflammation, severe mucous, body aches, fatigue. During this decomposing of the extra tissue (tumor), the body expels a lot of protein, and without replenishment, severe protein loss can result in death. Antibiotics did not exist yet. If TB bacteria does not exist in a person or they have been vaccinated against TB (big mistake), then the tumor will simply encapsulate and become dormant and not harm you. Who died during the Spanish Flu? Mainly the poor who could not afford to buy meat and proper nourishment, and the people who were directly impacted by the bombings and destruction of their homes. Millions of people suffered fear and death frights during the fighting of WWI, and millions of people all went into healing at the end of it. Not everyone was affected because not everyone suffered the same way. It’s not a “flu”, it’s not something you “catch”. It’s biological, meaningful, and unavoidable.

I love them, too. So nostalgic - even though I didn't live in that era.

@@questioneverything7582 America was not bombed or saw any warfare on its shores. Millions of Americans died from the influenza epidemic, not from "stress" on their immune system. Your pseudo-science bullshit is shameful, being posted on the site of an actual scientist (Ms. Bialik). The 1918 "Spanish" Flu epidemic was caused by a virus, which modern-day scientists have rediscovered in frozen corpses found in permafrost in the Arctic regions. It is true that many people were living with chronic TB infections, which already weakened their lungs. It is also true that the crowded conditions of soldiers in barracks, on troop ships across the ocean returning from war, were super-spreader events in the midst of the out break of this viral infection. The rest of your screed is bullshit. There was no vaccine for TB until 1921, after the war was over, so vaccines did not cause in the epidemic, but instead helped to keep it from recurring, after which (surprise, surprise) there was no reemergence of TB epidemics over vaccinated people in the developed world. Again, your pseudo-scientific bullcrap is way out of line. You anti-vaxxers ought to be rounded up and sent to a reeducation camp, as a public nuisance and danger to public safety. Abusing your right to Free Speech by telling lies and nonsense in a public forum is something else you should be ashamed of.

@@TheCarlScharnberg Exactly!

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@@MayimBialik Your description of 'depression' , i.e. 'I don't need to exist, there is nothing beyond this', sounds just like someones inability to handle reality as compared to the fantasies that are rammed down our throats from day one that so many people either accept as gospel (pun intended) or they struggle with the contradictions it presents against reality. THIS IS IT! You are born- stuff happens -then you cease to exist, QED. Sometimes shit happens, sometimes it's good; accept it, deal with it. The vast majority (or all) of psychological definitions and 'therapy' are false logic (detailed and convincing) but nonetheless fundamentally FALSE. Many long held 'theories' have been debunked after many years of touted 'truth', all were/are suspect to start with; they are/were used and abused to support the other false logic. Reject EVERYTHING 'taught' or touted as absolutes, then do the work/investigations yourself. 'Depression' caused by the mental/mind-set conflicts will evaporate. If you are then still depressed, you have a chemical problem. Live your life, not someone elses. Peace.

@@MayimBialik Hi there Mayim.. I'm new to your channel & so far what i have watched, it has been very interesting, inspiring,uplifting especially the Interview with Will Wheaton 🙂👍 So will definitely will be turning in more & keep up the fantastic work/videos.. Enjoy your Week from julz in Australia 🙂🌻🦘

Best thing we can do to show our Gratitude is to Pass it On..they are showing us an Example we can All follow...imagine..what a world it would be, could be..if this caught on?

Well, this comment made my day💜 Thank you for listening!!!

@Phil Tanner 1.When I say free I am saying we need not pay to view it ,it's necessary for them to have ads ,to have some kind of income to continue doing this ,who's gonna pay them for the work and effort they put in are gonna do that(rhetorical) ,and 2.Its not completely inanimate,they do reply back so even if it's .000001% I don't care, they are just communicating and we are here to listen ,,and why I said that it's "LIKE " talking to my best friend is that it gives me a sense of closure when your away from your family and you aren't able to contact them when u feel low sometimes,, wisdom makes a person better and not worse..And have ever heard of something called a SIMILE , please go check your skills in grammar before trying to pour your overflowing knowledge of crap into others, and btw I am dealing with reality and so is everyone ,I know you might ask how are you dealing with reality,and for that stupid question ,,I just do not wanna explain or even try to make you understand....,,as I can understand how you think by just your comment ...and don't type shit like this in this beautiful Channel it deserves the people who need it not people like you,,just if you don't like anything just leave ,,it's none of your business to open people's mind ,when there's more in life that you should experience..and don't even try to say that you have experienced everything in life...and millions of people ,,are you fucking so dumb that you cannot see the number of subscribers to this channel,,it's obvious that this content as helped at least millions of people who watched it ,,okay even if a single video has helped people people it's fine...,and I don't think people are so stupid to subscribe to a Channel if they thought it wasn't useful to them,,Or people like you maybe subscribers just to find fault in other people,,,,, And the MAIN MESSAGE FROM MY COMMENT WAS THAT the love I wanted to convey through words to this channel,,I cannot express it perfectly in my words but I try to ....so in this pandemic when people are at homes not everyone is rich enough to go find a therapist or not everyone is close to each other to be there for others ,so try ,I know it wouldn't fit because of all the crap in your head...,but try ,and understand that not everything needs to be perfect even if it makes someone smile and gives them some courage to move on further ,,it's worth something,,so try and appreciate the effort and the love behind the messages rather than to point the fault in it,,,..And Don't waste my time again by replying shit with you stupid comebacks keep them to yourself..!! BTW I didn't dislike your comment so ,learn something at least from it...!!

Sorry anyone who sees this,,it was because someone called Phil had commented , He/she said that this content wasn't free ,blah blah,,and how did I know whether whether it helped millions of people,,and it was an inanimate thing,,blah blah,,and I don't know what reality is ,,I should go get checked, etc....BUT WHICH WAS Deleted just after I replied to the person..so sorry, for that..and Phil tanner if you are reading this , sorry for my language,ur comment just made me want to talk like that...I hope u too have a good day.and also the people who read this..

@@earth7268 ...ehh...don't sweat it...just try to remember, for your own feelings, the phil tanners of the world complain if their ice cream is too cold ;-)

It's so difficult to stop the cycle and you did it. Bless you for sparing your kids that "inheritance". Well done.

God Bless you and kudos for you breaking the familial pattern. Happy Holidays!

I so admire your resilience. Thankfully, you were able to NOT repeat the horrifying abuse you suffered. Imho, women are able to do this - break the cycle of familial abuse - far more often and better than men. This is just one of countless reasons why women should serve as role models for living a healthy, joyful life. Again, thanks for sharing your story. 💙

Aww

Those " fantastic human beings " came from you.🌺💮🌹

Love to you ❤️

I haven't attempted suicide but I can relate to most everything you've said. Have you tried anything for treatment resistant depression? I'm realizing that'd the next step for me. I do hope you find a compatible therapist. Be well.

Me too

I’m not sick enough for a diagnosis or rather, no “professional” I’ve ever talked to cares enough to give me a proper diagnosis, but I have depressive episodes, not without reason, there’s always a trigger, but the only thing that gets me out of it is being able to talk to a friend who just listens. Not even solutions, just listening. I’ve found that that connection is so much more valuable than anything I could experience in an office. Mostly because I’ve never had a really good therapist that actually gave a proper shit about me. But even just talking about my honest feelings with someone who I know loves me helps tremendously. Do you have anyone like that?

Facts!

True!

Amen!

Ok, I’m just going say it. I may be criticized for doing so, but here goes….. No One, in my opinion should have to “LEARN” how to love unconditionally. Unconditional LOVE should be/feel natural to you, if Love is indeed the emotion that one is feeling. Unconditional love should feel as natural as the act of breathing. You don’t think about doing it, you don’t learn how to, you just do. If you truly feel unconditional love for anyone, your children, parents, spouse or friend, that would be an unequivocal emotional response to any person in your life. That being said, can That feeling of unconditional love dissipate with time and circumstances? I would assume that it can and would naturally happen in, for example, a marriage that didn’t work out the way you may have hoped it would. You may start out feeling unconditional love for a spouse and yes sadly, I assume that would change, but My belief is that, that particular emotion that is unconditional, is natural, it’s not learned behavior.

@@glo3139 When you grow up hearing that you’re stupid, worthless, too stupid to be in public, how you shouldn’t have been born because you would never make it in the world, then no, you don’t know unconditional love. I speak from experience here. From my first memories I don’t remember love from my egg donor at all. In public she was perfect, everyone said she was so awesome. I’m a Disney adult because it’s the only place she pretended to be a family. As I hit puberty I was told that I was a slut and a whore, even though I had never touched a boy. She however had an ectopic pregnancy and my dad had gotten a vasectomy right after I was born. I am an anchor baby, so that her family could come over from Korea. My Korean grandma loved me so much, but she wasn’t my egg donor. I didn’t come out with blonde hair and blue eyes so I was bad. Genetics be damned. I met my husband at 18 and a year and a half later we got married. I couldn’t believe someone loved me for me. Just because I was a weird, geeky, curious, funny, caring, he said beautiful, and I was just me. I loved him for his confidence, love of life, gentle nature, and he saw me and heard me. We were two broken people who came together and made each other whole. My cat who hated everyone loved him. When he came over for the first time she woke up and ran to his lap to get love. That’s when I knew it was good. We raised our kids with unconditional love and it was worth it. I cut my egg donor off 20 years ago to keep her from hurting my kids. I realized that I had fully healed a few months ago. I looked at my husband and told him a couple weeks later and told him about it. He was driving and we were alone, he smiled and said, “We did good stuff babe. Our kids are awesome.” So yeah Gloria, some of us have to learn unconditional love.

I like your description “as a commodity”. Having been in a near identical situation as Will that is a perfect descriptor

"Commodity" is a good word. At best, a parent doing that is misguided. Unfortunately I also believe that we all look at each other through the eyes of "marketing" and as a "commodity" to a certain extent. But that's a much longer story.

@@screenwritersscreenwriting6388 I agree. We're all out to get something from one another in some way or other. Gotta try to let go of the compulsive need for more more more

happens alot....such an evil thing to do....

He is around the horn and all healing to him and all survivors.

And courageous.... Thank you!❤️

I was in my late teens 18 19 when When it got out to my family that I had mental problems.....everyone started treating me like a retard....so Im not as open about it.....I was astonished at how open he was

Molly, Molly, Molly! Thank you so much for this quote!

Love that book, absolutely great quote. Thank you for sharing it here

Just needed to ditto the replies! This is a GREAT quote - thank you!

👏👏👏👏👏Thank you for this.

I love that quote way too much. Thank you

I want to be their friend too. But I think I would end up talking about The Big Bang Theory all day long. Despite that, those two are inspirations

@@lorcanmcglinchey5344 lol! I totally understand. I'd also be talking to Wil about Next Generation. 😂 But, really, I think they'd both be amazing people to have as friends. Not for their fame, but for who they are. They are both amazing and strong people.

You won't want that. They'll always call you for rides to the airport...or to help them move...

As thru should!

A real man with priorities ❣

@Random Commenter from Down Under No kid is lucky who has a self-hating, racist heart like Wil Wheaton.

@@shirleypena4133 ?

No they aren't Wil doesn't understand humor and is attacking a black man and calling him a racist because wil doesn't understand humor. He's pathetic

I'm 65 and only recently realized that my life has been filtered by my depression and anger at the world.

trying to replace the father isn't a good thing unless he is not in their life

​@jonnym He explains in the interview his kids' bio dad was awful and he actually adopted his step kids at their request as soon as he legally could.

@@VioletEmerald everyone but poor Will is “awful”.

It isn't about trying to replace anyone. It is about being what the children needed in their lives. I think a step parent that intentionally trys to not replace or step into the role of parent causes more damage to the children. The absent or currently not present parent's feelings shouldn't be more important than them wanting the step parent to be there for their children. Personally, my step dad did the job and deserves the title. He is my dad. Period! My mother was all about her. If I did something she could tout, she did. But not because I did it, but because HER child did it. For my mental health, I had to distance myself from her for many years years. Now that she has passed, I finally get to spend time with my dad again. All families are complicated.

Tcw

Imagine if the pain is being virtuous and changing would mean become more like the rottenness around you? Then the therapist will say 'goodbye, I cannot help you' - but with much less sincere words. The loneliest place is where everybody becomes an enemy once you show who you really are, and who you really are being far from a monster; quite the opposite. Shows just how deeply enslaved so many people are that they are afraid of looking at that fact.

THAT's good, thanks so much for sharing that!! Dr Phil always says, "When you're sick and tired of feeling sick and tired, then you start making changes" I've found it's like feeling sick and tired of telling myself that I'm sick and tired of feeling sick and tired. 😂😂

“And the day came when the risk to remain tight in a bud was more painful than the risk it took to blossom.” My favorite quote from Anais Nim ❤️

That's so scary! I'm glad that the agents treated you okay and that you were able to make your flight. My parent had that happen it was so bizarre because it was like their eyes went blank when they reached that point and it was like another person was in their body.

He was absolutely one of the best things about TBBT. I wish they had used him more.

I am so glad to get to see the Internet open a door for abused children to get the escape they need I was molested and I was kept on the ranch as a child and I had no escape from the family that would have no admit a fault and I have paid for it i was worked all my child hood housewoork feeding animals digging a well by hand building the house and on i went to school and home on the weekends I was not allowed to go to anyone's house or birthday party and by third grade I was no longer asked to attend i was grounded for a year for learning to swim at age eight by eiight grade I was another's Year for going on ditch day I was a throwaway and I was not allowed to go anywhere I have two siblings who never had to work and they were able to go anywhere they wanted no one in my family ever asked why I kept running away i was a screwup and that was how I was treated I dropped out of highschool as I was to go and come back home no matter what I got pregnant by s venteen and they were so disappointed and I was the worst when at ewentyone the truth came out and my mother dot has call and told me to mever ttalk to them ever I waarpedi now know what is wrongs being stalked and they would not help m I was using frugs and I lost my two childre and they were mad at me for seeling help I didn't speak to him or snyone him twentyfive years I had a husband children three and lived there where i grew up i was never even thought of I never had any help until I wareal person I cheer you on and am so proud of all of you that give them a way out so thnd I was seeing a Dr for a year and they my husband died and I have been facing the stuff I have kept yin me I am sixth one and I have been facing the first pain as I try healrng myself I am sad that I have been wasting all my time being with and I will get it done and be a redal a good life go

Have you tried therapeutic psychedelics? There are treatment centres in some countries now, like Canada. It may offer a different approach. Either way, I hope your soul finds some peace❤

Thank you for sharing. You look beautiful in your photo. Wishing you happiness ❤

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Yes! It took a psychiatrist and counselor to help me reach that point, but it's when everything changed for me. Also, part of me realizing that and forgiving my father, was finding out more about how he grew up, which was TERRIBLE. He tried to and achieved raising us better than he was raised. I then realized he did the best he could and I did know that he truly loved me, despite the abuse. I then set boundaries and he abided by them and was able to stay in my life, until he passed away a few years later.

Yes, far too many times people entwine themselves and their value through their parents. A parents love can do tremendous things for a child's development. But at the same time, that stray parent(s) who is abusive or negative could hopefully be identified by the adult child and considered separate and irrelevant. I'm always amazed how adults who were put up for adoption or abused still ask themselves, "What did I do?" when no child in history was to blame.

@@screenwritersscreenwriting6388 Not always true. I've met a few little shits that were born that way and despite excellent/loving parents/environment just got consciously/deliberately worse as they aged. Some became killers and evil of the worst kind. In hindsight, they should have been adopted by a bucket of water or a hard concrete floor, day one. I make no apology for believing that having seen the misery and harm they cause/caused.

@@bikerfirefarter7280 Wait. What? Are you sure? I am surprised.

@@pechaa Never been more sure of anything. I stand by what I said. Sometimes things are just born 'wrong'. Deal with it. I'll always give anyone/anything a chance and benefit of the doubt, but sometimes it's a wasted effort. Observe - decide - act. "Be Pure, Be Vigilant, Behave".

This is so true

"every child deserves a parent, but not every parent deserves a child."

@Prettymapleleaf Wheaton IS NOT in a good place now, because anyone who-like himself- is a self-hating racist is hardly in a "good place."

@@shirleypena4133 what are you even talking about Shirley? Take a seat.

Celeste. You made me cry.

Kayla!!!!!! You holier than thou rich kid I forgive you!

Thank you!!! Kindred spirits ..

Mary, don't respond to the people pretending to be the lovely Leslie Jordan. I got conned into making contact with them and gave my email and mobile number 🤦‍♀️ They sent an email offering me a position as a marketing consultant and I deleted and blocked them. These are true scammers who I fell for. Please don't make the same mistake 🤞

Also, if in any doubt, click on the picture and you'll see that they joined in January.

@thelesliejordan♪ why are you scamming people? 😡

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You should never excuse bad behavior because they are family. You need to decide how you want to be treated in life.

It's taken me a lifetime (I'm 72) to figure out my Dad was a shitty father because HE HAD a shitty father. I broke the cycle by not having any children. My Brother had two sons and their lives are dysfunctional because my Brother didn't know how to be a good father.

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Me and my husband too.

@ Edie ,same here . An old man now ,but that "circus" still revolves in my head since early childhood . Getting ready to try Spravato . Don't like the meds , but ?

My mom was horrible. I was estranged from her and Dad 17 years. They were the best years of my life in regards to her.

God Bless Will Wheaton. 🙏🏻🙏🏻 As someone who has struggled my whole life with depression as well, this was therapy for me. ❤️❤️

My egg donor/incubator was verbally and emotionally abusive with me as a child when I was around her up to a phone call when I was in my mid 30s and she actually told me to prove I was her daughter, she was my mother (after I updated my original birth certificate to add HER name as my original had NO PARENTS listed) and then later she said (incubator)"It's YOUR fault you were born". At THAT point I knew she was flucking nuts and I was so HAPPY she abandoned me at six months old leaving me with my savior, my (maternal grand)MOM. I've spoken with her twice since 2008 after MOM died with me filing her nails and via a few texts messages.

Isn't it amazing how much of a failure a lot of parents are? Their job is to make you ready to go out into the world at 18 and be there if you fail to have a safe place to go back to. Somebody that needs their parents in their life on a daily basis didn't learn what they needed to learn.

Thank YOU for listening 💜

Agreed. For him as a very well known person to say I have these things and I am NOT ashamed is so inspiring. Thank you Wil and Mayim!!

Mayim is an annoying spazz . Will is gold.

He is not a massive individual. He is not obese. Her usual amazing????

@@Michelle-pn9xt they mean great, not obsese

I'm 60 and both my parents were narcissists and still are. My father hated everything about me and my mother tried to make up for it, but as she got older she became like him . I can so relate to Will's story. Hope you are well.

Been peeling my "onion layers" of my Mother's narciscism, abuse & dislike for decades. Now, in my early '70s have stopped contact. She's in early dementia so confrontation would be pointless. Additionally, my brothers have all bought into her "sweet Southern Mother" gaslighting act. All 4 of them! After recently getting her letter (another "I love you so much & pray for you.") & immediatly feeling nauseous, walked to my recycling & dropped it in-unopened, I was done. Relief, finally.

Thanks for listening! xo

Mine as well!

He's full of crap. It's so obvious, it's gross. He's Amber Heard in a man's body.

I am there too. So many parallels, and I lost over 47 family members in seconds. That was over 30 years ago.

@@candaceion9622 My husband has been ostracized. They set him up for failure but he's now healing and things are going REALLY well for us.

@Seven Inches of Throbbing Pink Jesus I love your user name and agree. His family is from the deep south. That explains some of it, I think.

@@candaceion9622 Maybe if we think of it as lightening the load, it would help. :)

Good looks?

Sorry you took it so badly, sometimes shit happens. Some deserve it, some don't. If you don't like something, change it if you can, at least make a real effort. Peace.

so sorry!!! I hope you know he didn't like himself so he didn't know how to like or love you. I hope you love yourself and forgive him.

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Dana. I'm so sorry that your parents failed you so miserably. You're a strong person for all you've been through. I hope you're doing well and have found peace. 🌹

I relate. I have now put a public post on my Facebook page for people who want to do that to me. I drew a cartoon cactus and basically said, "If you know Kayla's ex mother and would like to submit a reconciliation request on behalf of yourself or her, please pay the fee of one Cactus Carl hug before contacting Kayla. Thanks!" 🌵

She knows her, but wasn't raised by her. Her view of your mom is as a contemporary, not a child. Big difference!

@@2degucitas exactly, she wasn't abused by her, so her opinions of my relationship with my mother are irrelevant

@@TastyYazz Tell her that next time!

@@2degucitas I did, multiple times, with specific anecdotes, and she kept saying "well you're her daughter, so" which is first of all untrue and second of all a bullshit response

I could not say it any better. Hugs fromNC.

@@beats2476 Hugs back from Barcelona, Catalonia! 🙅🏼‍♀️