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Wild Citrus in a Florida Forest? Why It's a Big Deal.

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Why are we so excited about wild citrus in central Florida?
Well, sadly the reason is because more than half of the state has lost all species & varieties of citrus to the HLB disease.
The only citrus still surviving the epidemic has been heavily treated with extreme chemical & antibiotic application.
If you missed our previous video talking about why we don’t sell citrus trees & want to learn more about this subject, here is the link - • THE GREAT CITRUS FAIL!...
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HLB (HuangLongBing) is a disease that has spread throughout every garden, grove or backyard. It is caused by bacteria, transmitted by the Asian Citrus Psyllid, a problematic insect that bores it’s way into the tree, causing yellowing & splotchy mottling of the leaf, leading to defoliation, stunted growth, flowers that fall off, irregular shaped bitter fruit with thick peel. Eventual death of the tree begins with dieback of twigs & branches & loss of vigor.
Why is this happening in Florida & what can we learn from this?
The burden of citrus monoculture across the state over the past century came with an all time cost. This disease has completely plummeted the industry & left it near impossible to grow citrus organically in the majority of the state.
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Image credits:
Map of Florida, Affected Greening Areas (credit High Country News) - bit.ly/2EUkIua
Map of Florida, Agriculture/Citrus Map (& great article) + Photo of Fruit Comparison , Credit: nap.edu: bit.ly/2ETCKg0
Vintage Box of Oranges Image Credit - bit.ly/2mSMDnx
Abdoned Grove Pic Credit: Florida Farm Bureau - bit.ly/2mUgoVf
The Vintage Train & Oranges Postcard, (which can be purchased) Credit: Florida Memory’s ’Bittersweet: The Rise & Fall of the Citrus Industry in Florida - bit.ly/2mUgEUd
Photo of Affected Fruit (credit Trussville Tribute (+article):
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Photo of Diseased Citrus Tree + Article (credit TBO.com): bit.ly/2mLyMP2
Photo Credit & Information on the Critter that Spreads this deadly disease: Asian Citrus Psyllid - edis.ifas.ufl.edu/in686
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@sowhuut5091 5 лет назад

Not only did they breed away from seeds, they bred the plants natural defenses away. A Plants defense mechanisms are closely connected to its reproduction.

@journeylife7491 8 месяцев назад

Stop guessing, then proclaiming your guess is true. Ridiculous!

@robradencic4483 5 лет назад

I've done that many times, mostly as a kid, from the 'special trees' in the woods here in coastal central Florida, until the developers dozed them down. So sweet the juice; can almost taste it now. Nice video on an almost forgotten time. Thank you.

@robertl.fallin7062 5 лет назад

Two ounces of gold. if i could own just one Temple orange tree.

@floridapathfinder4252 5 лет назад

Reminds me so much of my childhood. Want to enjoy those trees even more? Put a hammock between 2 of them during the spring when they are blooming and bask in their fragrance. So many rural campsites have these citrus trees where campers have spit the seeds during fun times of old. It’s truly one of the magic things I love about Florida. Thank you for sharing this footage.

@WesleyAPEX 5 лет назад

Birds and coyotes are going to eat those fallen fruits and spread the seeds all over the place and will make new trees. Pretty cool

@PeteKanarisGreenDreamsFL 5 лет назад

Yes! I even noticed a raccoon eating them while in the woods. Someone else mentioned alligators also like citrus.

@natrone23 5 лет назад

I saw a squirrel one time with orange in its mouth.

@k98killer 5 лет назад

Hogs are more likely the reason for the spread of these fruit trees.

@JohnDoe-fr1id 4 года назад

Coyotes eating fruit?

@b-b8704 4 года назад

My dog use to disappear for weeks sometimes, and he'd usually be found in the citrus groves just chilling and chowing down.

@JC-cu2xf 5 лет назад

Amazing. Save those seeds and spread them everywhere freely so the earth can heal herself. Thanks for sharing. I’m moving down to Fl in a few years and can’t wait to start my own food forest. U guys give so much inspiration. 👏🌱🌴🌳🌞

@PeteKanarisGreenDreamsFL 5 лет назад

Jennifer Calderon for sure! Thank you 😊

@Foodie_888 5 лет назад

Jennifer Calderon That would be an awesome thing to witness after all the seeds are spread everywhere. Great idea! Pay it forward is a wonderful thing.

@annaserene3669 5 лет назад

Jennifer C, indeed the good Lord has provided the Earth with Abundant of food. May they provide a source of sustainance in the Difficult Times ahead that is to affect the Earth in the End Days. Shalom to all n Godspeed

@nancyfahey7518 5 лет назад

My dad bought land and during his snowbirds trips planted trees. He ended up selling it but the food forest was there by the time a house was built.

@mibrinabreen 5 лет назад

Smart suggestion! Wishin You and Yours all Good Things...

@VondaInWonderland 5 лет назад

Who knew that Florida is having a problem with citrus. I don't think that their announcing it to the world. Thanks, very informative. Plant those seeds ♥

@PeteKanarisGreenDreamsFL 5 лет назад

Thank you Vonda! 🙌

@Laggin6 5 лет назад

I wondered why citrus had gotten expensive, compared to what it used to be.

@Mrbfgray 4 года назад

Actually it's been front page national news for YEARS.

@CDP135Z 2 года назад

Hey! We have found several places like this in the Ocala National Forest too! We also observed that every location that these wild citrus tree patches were also had large oak canopies. My brother in law is one of the guys in our group and he’s pretty familiar with the Greening problem. He believes the Oaks are somehow tied with these wild citrus groves. He’s currently working with David The Good on a project. You might reach out to him to see if he knows anything about these wild citrus groves in oak hammocks.

@tomdehaven3445 5 лет назад

Florida is very hot in the summertime. I believe that a lots of plants including citrus, need a little shade. The leaves will be greener. Also the plant won't need as much water to. The strong sun light + high temperatures can really bleach out the leaves, and Scorch the plant. I see a lot of growers in Fl, grow in straight sunlight, with no shade cloth!. Shade cloth can be expensive and it doesn't last forever. You end up throwing it away in the garbage after just 3 years. These days shade cloth is mainly made of plastic. That's why you don't see a lot of growers using it! Healthy plants have a better chance of fighting off insects and diseases with no pesticides then one that are stressed from their environment. A weak plant is more susceptible to disease and insect! You should think about taking soil samples from the soil around the trees to see if there's any beneficial microbes fungi! This can be a way to feed a tree without using fertilizers! Oak trees could possibly be the answer too. Oak trees typically have a symbiotic relationship with nitrogen fixed fungi.

@swampratt36 5 лет назад

Thats called a hammock where those trees are located , probably an old Fl homestead . Protects trees from becoming bitter or sour fruit except under extreme frost conditions .7th generation Floridian here .

@wilecatrexy 5 лет назад

Perhaps citrus originally was an understory tree. And thats why their leaves are darker that other trees, to absorb more of the sun's energy in slightly shady conditions.

@jeff6899 5 лет назад

could be why trunks are so susceptible to sun scalding (developed somewhat as an understory) as well even though they might have evolved with some skirt

@PeteKanarisGreenDreamsFL 5 лет назад

wilecatrexy that’s very possible!

@PeteKanarisGreenDreamsFL 5 лет назад

Jeff interesting observation!

@da1stamericus 5 лет назад

In the 🇩🇴 my family grows theirs under other bigger trees. And always have a massive harvest.

@PeteKanarisGreenDreamsFL 5 лет назад

da1stamericus thanks for sharing!!

@heidiw8406 5 лет назад

I drive past those all the time. I assumed it was old groves. Good to know they taste good.

@PeteKanarisGreenDreamsFL 5 лет назад

Heidi W most are sooo sweet!

@blackbway 5 лет назад

in Jamaica we would stop and raid the $#!+ out of them! none would have gone wasted.

@lonetraveller 5 лет назад

Those are old groves. I live in the area and it's no secret to us locals to plant citrus under live-oak trees to protect them from frost. This guy must be from up north....

@deemueller6470 5 лет назад

@@blackbway there isnt any waste. My aunt had a coconut tree in her yard and people would raid her tree at night. She hasnt gotten any off her own trees because of raiders. She cant even plant more because NONE LEFT. Stop raiding and let some go to seed!

@blackbway 5 лет назад

@@deemueller6470 I understand and feel for your aunt, but dem tangerines couldn't be in my country and not be raided

@robbymata4831 5 лет назад

Whoa! That's awesome to walk into a forest & find a loaded citrus tree like that.

@PeteKanarisGreenDreamsFL 5 лет назад

Robby Mata right! Free food excites me 😬

@g..n.4700 5 лет назад

In Canada 🇨🇦 you walk into a forest and find Apple 🍎 trees.

@orlandogardener 5 лет назад

Yes

@BESHYSBEES 5 лет назад

@@PeteKanarisGreenDreamsFL looks like an imperial mandarin tangy and sweet

@jimmyarbutus2555 5 лет назад

@@g..n.4700 And blueberries, blackberries, raspberries, currants, choke cherries, plus a million other delicious ebibles

@annacatherineevans 5 лет назад

They look so much yummier under the canopy. So natural! Amazing.

@PeteKanarisGreenDreamsFL 5 лет назад

Anna Ezra they really do glow 🙌

@blackbway 5 лет назад

reminds me of when i was a kid growing up on the island, stealing fruits from neighbor's trees....

@champmarly7665 5 лет назад

Monsanto can't make a dollar off those beautiful trees

@wejsmith5446 5 лет назад

Unless their patented genes cross pollinate

@ES-mc3cc 5 лет назад

Monsanto sold out to Bayer: another company who doesn't mind poisoning people. I found out that Miracle Gro is owned by Monsanto. I won't use their products anymore.

@MrFasho123 5 лет назад

@@ES-mc3cc Poisoning people? Do you got sources on that? Cuz all I hear is "GMO KILLS PEOPLE", but I never get anything to prove that claim. Sometimes it feels like this is the modern version of the church hating science back in the time.

@scott8151 5 лет назад

@@MrFasho123 glyphosate aka round up causes cancer and reduces fertility in those that eat it. This includes cattle as well as people.

@lockcracker 5 лет назад

@@MrFasho123 do you think all of these new allergies people have can be traced back TO GMF? People have allergys now, that if they had them 75 years ago they would not have lived long enough to reproduce. People have wheat allergies and wheat has been one of the staple foods for hundreds of years. I agree, i have not seen definitive evidence that GM Foods cause these things, but it wasn't that long ago that smoking wasn't considered deadly and a little before that, cocaine, heroin and morphine was sold as a treat all at most any general store and a safe cure all for children. They were all considered safe alternatives. Even cigarettes were believed to have health benifits right along with drinking radioactive water. I will do my best to avoid Genetically Altered/Modified Foods and let the sheeple be the Guineapigs.

@FruitTreeAddict 4 года назад

Growing up my family had orange groves in Lakeland and plant city. The old tangerine variety that was planted widely in Florida was called Dancy Tangerine. Maybe they are seedlings from that old variety. They had more seeds than the new tangerine varieties but delicious. Thanks for the video it’s super cool to see these citrus trees thriving. It’s funny because we still have a few seedlings trying to grow under our oak trees and I keep cutting them down. I figured they would be just sour rootstock but they look great so maybe I will let them grow and see.

@PeteKanarisGreenDreamsFL 4 года назад

Hey Jan! Yes, we’re thinking this is a Dancy. I’ve had lots of locals reach out telling me the same .

@michaelerbs2123 5 лет назад

Man I would pay to get my hands on some of those naturalized seeds !

@royalblood22 5 лет назад

@Blue collar Gold pockets We got that vaiety down here in Tobago. And in the sister isle also Trinidad.. yep they are normally loaded farmers load pickup trucks with these all the time..We have also a yellow variety and one thats green dark green when fully ripe..

@sremik 5 лет назад

How are you so sure? Can you predict the future?

@allanturpin2023 5 лет назад

If I saw you on my land, I'd immediately think "poacher" too. Matt was recently talking about his wild understory oranges thriving too. It seems like there is something the greening researchers are missing. Great video. Thanks.

@PeteKanarisGreenDreamsFL 5 лет назад

Allan Turpin hahah right! Yeah me and Matt loaded up here a few weeks back while doing some consultation work. I was itching for more citrus so figured I’d film it too :)

@edwardleonetti2492 Год назад

I used to work at a bee farm and we would put bees in forested places I would see the amount of fruit trees in some of these places in Brooksville and other areas and so sweet and juicy also recall the amount of spiders as well different species doing what spiders do maybe because of the pesticides they use at groves kill off the bad insects but also the good maybe that's part of the problem as well

@cactushound 5 лет назад

Be sure that you sterilize the hand pruners between each tree that it's used on or you could transmit pathogens from one tree to another.

@robertgrays6761 5 лет назад

Trees talk to each other. Variety is the spice of life.

@normatible9795 5 лет назад

Robert Grays what do they say to each other? Not being sarcastic but I think so too. When a plant Start to bear fruit, I noticed that the nearby plant stats to have flowers

@jakebogus5361 5 лет назад

Yes they do. They sing too. I love our forests.

@baikia777 5 лет назад

It's chemical language. Some plants also use chemical to kill competitive plants.

@p51mustang24 5 лет назад

jokes aside, plants secrete hormones from their roots which tell the beneficial microbes in the soil what to do, and can also positively or negatively affect other plants.

@halasimov1362 5 лет назад

Is that why bananas are so boring?

@yvonnemairose6100 5 лет назад

Yes! My hubby and I just bought land in FL and were stunned to find dozens and dozens of citrus trees, packed in absolutely gorgeous fruit, all thriving inside our forest. We've identified 3 different types of mandarins. Nature will find way!

@PeteKanarisGreenDreamsFL 5 лет назад

How cool is that! Welcome to Florida y’all

@BaltimoresBerzerker Год назад

Want to trade seeds or something? I'm in the Tampa Bay Area and would love to get my hands on some wild citrus seeds for when I earn some property.

@Jdmsword14 5 лет назад

it really looks magical that bright orange dappled in the dark green. to me that is also a very inspiring thing, the fact that it doesn't need the full sun you typically would imagine needed.

@Ryan15T 5 лет назад

I live in Florida, Don't go into the woods very much. But I do remember finding some Calamondin Orange growing wild once. Most likely the seeds were planted by someone. But they were still very delicious. Quite sour but I do love sour things. They are also perfect for growing indoors due to their small size.

@springtailexpressyt3105 5 лет назад

The beauty of Forest Gardening. It's not thriving on neglect, it's thriving on the love of the natural process of nature!! A food forest nurtures itself. We are the ones who neglect and don't work with nature a lot of the time. Amazing video!

@cactushound 5 лет назад

These are understory trees in their native habitat in tropical and subtropical Asia.

@Menstral 5 лет назад

I have eaten and juiced much central Florida citrus, and save and juice the seeds with a juicer. It is very good for you, even though it tastes terrible.

@bitsnpieces11 5 лет назад

I'm thinking an OLD, 1900s farmstead with a small orange grove which has gone wild and other native trees have come up. In an understory situation the ground stays cooler and MUCH wetter.

@jeromie6993 5 лет назад

Could be an old hiking trail or a bird or turtle dropping start too. I know of a couple of wild groves in a few forests around Tampa.

@donna7881 5 лет назад

The fruit became much more common in the United States starting in the late 19th century, according to wicapida. It's Nick name is old man's fruit. Thank you Donna

@jamesgaffney7480 5 лет назад

Zzz Zzz wikipedia*

@dam4274 5 лет назад

bitsnpieces11 Years ago we lived in the Brigadoon complex in Clearwater, FL. Behind the complex was an abandoned grove and other trees had naturally sprouted building a forest there. Plenty oranges for the picking.

@youcanthandlethetruth6976 5 лет назад

I remember before all of these alternative methods to farming came out on RU-vid, back in the early 2000's, there were a bunch of videos about Layering your food forest. That you need a "Canopy" layer, then you had your "Wood" layer, then you had your "Fruit" layer, then you had your "Bush" layer, then you had your "flowers", "Weeds" and "grass/covers". I'm paraphrasing here because I can't really remember how it goes. But the important part of course was the canopy layer. Certain trees, like fruit tress, are not meant to be in direct sunlight all the time. Canopy layers are best suited for that. So fruit trees thrive in the underside of the canopy.

@baikia777 5 лет назад

Certain fruit trees probably, yes. I have several varieties of mango, sugar apple, and rose apple trees that had stopped or produced very few fruits for some years after being shaded by teak trees that my dad planted for shade. A few months ago i decided to prune the branches to let some light in and within a month loads of flower had formed on all of the trees. I'm waiting for the fruits to ripen now :D

@youcanthandlethetruth6976 5 лет назад

@@baikia777 Yea they need some light, but not a whole heap of direct sunlight. Like in Pete's video, you can see how the light shines through the canopy sparsely. I think that's pretty ideal.

@baikia777 5 лет назад

@@youcanthandlethetruth6976 yes that's true but like i said, only some of them. Most big fruit trees need full direct sunlight since in the wild they're the ones that become the canopy for other plants. Or fruit like fig for example that grows in dry and sunny area. Try growing it in underforest area like that and see what happen.

@youcanthandlethetruth6976 5 лет назад

@@baikia777 Hmm, that's a good idea. I might try that out. I'll grow plants in both direct sunlight and under a canopy and see what the results are. Good idea, thanks for the tip.

@calebfuller4713 4 года назад

Some trees need some shade, some full sun. Some will grow in shade, but not fruit well, and vice versa. The size of the natural grown-from-seed tree is often a giveaway. And yes, most citrus trees are relatively small, compared to say a wild pear or apple, and especially things like oaks, ash, beech, walnut, etc. Robert Hart is probably responsible for the 7 layer food forest model. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-6zv3JxnjLEg.html The model went top canopy of tall, light loving trees, then short shade tolerant trees, then shrubs, then herbaceous plants, ground covers, rhizomes and roots, and finally vertical climbers than will use trunks of other plants.

@andiamador7156 5 лет назад

Monoculture is unnatural and unhealthy---out of balance. The grower has to try to compensate, and eventually loses. Because those citrus in the forest are supplied healthy nutrients, the trees are in better health. I would bet that those fruits have more trace minerals and are probably better for whoever eats them, maybe making them more disease resistant---similarly to how the trees are healthier from what they are eating.

@PeteKanarisGreenDreamsFL 5 лет назад

Andi Amador 🙌

@aj-qn7nm 5 лет назад

Exactly, farming should be horticultural based for example have a oak tree then avocado then orange then pinapple

@andiamador7156 5 лет назад

@@aj-qn7nm The lemon tree I had planted near some of my oaks, and under their canopy somewhat, appears to be pretty happy about it. I am going to cast about my seeds from citrus in my wooded area to the back, and see if some become trees on their own back there. I'm in Texas. If I grow a pineapple, it will have to be in a greenhouse. I have been wondering what I could plant low under the oaks and lemon. I may just plant a few more well-placed citrus around that area for now.

@mikeries8549 5 лет назад

To find a really good example of what this topic is heading towards you simply need to meet a Mexican farmer that specializes in what's called three uhhh something. (Queens?) Sorry I forget the name but it's basically growing corn, beans, and squash in the same field because of the way each plant benefits the others. Beans supply nitrogen for the corn which shades the squash. This type of agriculture needs to be studied more but...it's sort of labor intense.

@andiamador7156 5 лет назад

@@mikeries8549 I tried that 'three sisters' old Native American planting, a while back and it didn't do so well. I have improved my soil a lot since then, so it might fare better now. I plant peanuts and purple hull peas. Corn does okay alone as well. Winter squashes have done well for me, but summer squashes have not done well yet. I'm going to try zucchini again this year. I plant all of that in full sun, with a little shade in late afternoon on some of it. Nothing is really 'alone' since they are close proximity and rotated, in my gardens.

@MaruAdventurer 5 лет назад

As a 3rd gen Floridian, thanks for the memories. This used to be 'normal' when I was growing up as a kid.

@PeteKanarisGreenDreamsFL 5 лет назад

Good times! I also grew up enjoying home grown citrus.

@tysonbrown249 5 лет назад

That is an amazing find! I think it would be so cool to propagate that variety and try it against the psyllids. We discovered a similar grove of oranges that are almost exactly like Valencias growing in a cypress and live oak river bottom in Pasco County Florida. I plan to give those a try... Nice meeting you at the Loquat Festival last weekend - thanks for the educational info you're putting out, it's much appreciated.

@PeteKanarisGreenDreamsFL 5 лет назад

Hey Tyson! Nice to meet you too. Great find with the citrus now we need to preserve these genetics.

@rafaelmoro9114 5 лет назад

I have seen people who think citrus is not good for agroforest model. It's a lie. My grandma had a lot of different citrus and when she died, the other tropical and big trees like mango, cajá, bread fruit overshadowed all of them and it's doing great with a lot of fruits. It's a mistery for me to, but it happens. Of course in dark places it's not good to, but in a balance shade, it's doing really great.

@PeteKanarisGreenDreamsFL 5 лет назад

Agreed! It was a common agroforestry tree Costa Rica too.

@929bn 3 года назад

Pete you should share that tree with University of FL Agricultural dept. Maybe they can use it to help find a solution to the problem

@michaelmongeon9737 5 лет назад

The abundance of leaf litter fertilizes retains moisture and develops mycrorizia which enlarges the root area and facilitates the absorption of phosphorus and other elements not readily available.

@rileysaucier9295 5 лет назад

Hey Pete, almost positive you have a Satsuma variety. They’re super common on the MS and Al gulf coast. My parents tree makes more fruit than you can harvest and they do absolutely nothing to it in terms of cultivation. Hardy as hell

@houston3483 5 лет назад

i have a satsuma too

@johnpetre-baumer6143 4 года назад

Yep, definitely satsuma. My great grandparents had a grove of them in Melrose, Alachua County back in the 1920’s. We had one from a cutting in the back yard when I was growing up. Same easy peel and very few seeds. Our dog would pick them, peel them, and eat them.

@ilocanodetoy2225 3 года назад

Dancy Tangerine definitely

@jessiperry60 3 года назад

i found 2 trees similar to that close to me.. been eating them since a kid and they produce heavily... i use the seeds as rootstock for grafting expirements

@donaldbarber5160 8 месяцев назад

My Grandfather had a 60:acre Grove near IndianTown. His name is Leslie Rowell from West Palm Beach. As a teen i went with him to the grove and witness the amount of hard work it took to maintain this grove. He left me with many memories and life lessors (Hard work). Love you Grampa

@KayRanze 5 лет назад

The editing in this photo was insane. Always knowledgeable content. Love this.

@islandboy71 4 года назад

Reminds me when I was kid going back to Nevis in the caribbean, fruits and vegetables growing wild. Sometimes you could even see wild pumpkins grow on the side of the road.

@freeq1829 5 лет назад

People say citrus should be planted in full sun, but whenever I see them in full/partial shade they do amazing

@IntegrityRC 5 лет назад

I'm in Central Florida and have a tree with fruit like that, easy peel with seeds. My grandfather planted it like 20 years ago and it's got to be 20 feet tall and 10-15 feet round, and bushy as hell. When it fruits, it looks like a giant berry bush or something. Only problem is, recently it seems only the upper fruit is sweet. So I'm thinking it must have to do with sun exposure or something. It is also under some oaks, but gets sun in the mid day. I have another tree that produces excellent, large, very juicy oranges. But that one hasn't been doing very well. I think bugs have certainly been a problem, I'm not sure what is wrong with it. But this year it grew all new leaves, which is a good sign. As soon as the bloom is done, this year I'll probably be spraying it to see if it helps keep it healty. It's been neglected till now. Would love to see it survive since it was also planted by my grandfather.

@liamcarey1085 5 лет назад

What a surprise, nature is incredibly abundant. Who would have guessed 😂

@Shichiaikan 5 лет назад

...and the fruit is beautiful when it's just left alone. Amazing how that works.

@jimmyarbutus2555 5 лет назад

To answer your question, almost everybody who does not suffer from some sort of brain damage would guess.

@mcsmom1602 5 лет назад

This is an epic share! I was under the impression that there had been success with some orchards with various foliar sprays. I 100% agree with the monoculture and lack of diversity as being a huge contributing factor. These trees reseeding themselves makes them stronger and adaptable with each seedling. I would love to put some of that soil under a microscope and check out what is going on with the soil. In an understory like that the soil would have to be rich in humus and have a fungal dominance rather than a bacteria dominance.

@PeteKanarisGreenDreamsFL 5 лет назад

Thanks! Something else interesting I heard from a local was they were spraying citrus with oak oil and showing good results with citrus greening.

@ramishrambarran3998 6 месяцев назад

This citrus fruit is known as MANDARIN. In our country the trees last for many, many years. It is one of the hardiest of the citrus. Because of this, the seedlings are grown by our Ministry of Agriculture for rootstock in citrus grafting. It must ripen like those in your hand, or you will get a lot of acid. If the trees were exposed to sunlight I think there would have been shorter with a lot more sweeter fruit, as the trees here are quite laden. Unfortunately natural citrus is disappearing in our country, as grafted plants have replaced them. Great video. Trinidad & Tobago. West Indies.

@littlesnooker 5 лет назад

I live in Brooksville. Loved the video! Wild orange trees down a main road I live off of!!

@PeteKanarisGreenDreamsFL 5 лет назад

Lauren D'Azzo haha nice! These are the best this time of year :)

@Foodie_888 5 лет назад

Lauren D'Azzo You are so lucky!

@mtngrl88 5 лет назад

Spring Lake here!

@PeteKanarisGreenDreamsFL 5 лет назад

Aspen Dukes awesome! One of my favorite areas around here. I’ve found wild guavas that naturalized off Old Spring Lake Rd 😉

@randomuser8060 3 года назад

@Lauren D'Azzo Do they look like the ones in the video? If so, can I have the location to get some clippings?

@artsymamanana 5 лет назад

Please be careful, big ag is dangerous! spread the cuttings and seeds anywhere you can, but keep it a secret.

@bonniewood5263 5 лет назад

Yup. Only a matter of time. They already produce crops that produce sterile seeds (e.g., wheat) so the farmers have to buy new seed every year. Does anyone realize how dangerous that is? If the pollen from that should contaminate other crops, there could be mass crop failure. Might be hard to undo.

@artsymamanana 5 лет назад

Well that's awesome...help it along when you can

@krap101 5 лет назад

@@bonniewood5263 they're called hybrids, like a mule being infertile. Being blended with another similar species changes then enough to be resistant to disease. The issue with modern farming is each variety of fruit are genetically identical. They're all grafts of a prototype tree. That's the reason why when a disease pops up, it wrecks everything. It's the reason why avacados went from $0.50-1.00ea to $3-5ea.

@bonniewood5263 5 лет назад

@@krap101 Well, you are certainly knowledgeable! I did know about mules. I recently did some follow-up, and found that the infertility has to do with an uneven number of chromosomes, and the difficulty in lining up pairs that can be split for reproduction. (I'll let you look up the details!) Conception between mules is almost nonexistent (hence the rather indelicate expression, "as useless as tits on a mule!"), but it is occasionally managed. Their progeny, however, are weak. I know that some fruit and nut growers rely on grafting, but of course do so with similar, compatible species. It's bad news if we are limiting genetic diversity, however! Did we learn nothing from the Irish potato famines?

@krap101 5 лет назад

@@bonniewood5263 it's the only way to get the consistency. Imagine buying gala apples and them tasting like granny smith

@twitchster77 5 лет назад

Okay, I don't know wtf is going on here... But what I do know is I have mad respect for this guy!

@MichaelGreer38601 5 лет назад

Thank you for this video. I am building my food forest and came across this video last night. I live in Port Richey and got up early to go to Brooksville to see if I could find this. I don't think I found the exact place you were, but found the exact fruit, and it is AWESOME. If anyone cares to go. I left some. Its just on the right side of the HWY 98, a little past the Yontz Rd intersection. You will see the tree just across from the blue HWY Patrol sign. I took about 10 seedlings hatched beneath the tree and a couple cutting of small branches to clone. The soil is so perfect, that the seedling just wiggle out with the roots still intact. Also got some fruit for seeds. I can not believe how perfect the soil is, and the fruit has no blemishes. I will be posting a short video tomorrow evening of my potted cuttings. Thanks again for the inspiration!!!

@PeteKanarisGreenDreamsFL 5 лет назад

That’s awesome man! I’ve recently hit those trees but it’s not where I made the video. They were pretty sweet too, I’m thinking the same variety. The locals are telling me it’s a “Dancy” tangerine that’s been around sine the 1800’s. It never became a commercial variety because it gets soft quick and doesn’t ship well. Keep me posted! 👊

@chrismatteson2337 3 года назад

We had a couple of what looks exactly like these at our newly purchased ranch. They didn't even get dappled sun. Loaded every year! I have been replicating the forest floor ever since.

@Higgabletrw12 5 лет назад

Planting from seed is always going to be a stronger defense against pests and disease. If you plant an entire field of citrus that are clones, you have no diversity of genetics to act as a healthy defense and in a mono cultural system this will eventually spell disaster as were now seeing for Florida citrus. We had an orange tree in our yard that came up from seed as a volunteer, in an oak understory and it was very healthy and grew vigorously with no care. Either way, looking forward to Florida emerging as a leader in the hemp industry to replace citrus!

@stevenschnepp576 5 лет назад

Oof. Try that with apples. Granted, the seedlings that _survive_ will be at least somewhat resistant to the local pests, but the li'l buggers die off in droves when they're not mollycoddled. They won't do as well as a monoculture of a disease-resistant cultivar.

@stevenschnepp576 5 лет назад

@Muse Verdant While there are some cultivars that do well enough in warm climates, I was talking about the genetics rather than the prospect of cultivating apples in lieu of citrus.

@blutkind9202 5 лет назад

When I was a kid that's how we got oranges. thin skins juicy fruit wonderful smell. florida has been poisoned in every way it can be.

@beckywatt5048 5 лет назад

Blutkind They are working on it real hard here in Michigan.

@precisiont5188 5 лет назад

It's so sad.

@velvetfrogg2273 5 лет назад

This makes me happy. I am a FL girl who loves her oranges and I miss my dad's old orange tree he had. FL lost many citrus trees from the state removing them if there was canker near by and that program stopped right before or right around the time that HLB was first found. Basically the last 20 years has sucked for FL citrus trees. I'm trying to grow some orange tree seedlings right now and if they get to a point where they're ready to get planted in the ground, I might have a few spots they can go that are under some oak trees.

@PeteKanarisGreenDreamsFL 5 лет назад

Velvet Frogg I feel your pain! I also growing loving and enjoying citrus. It’s so sad to see what’s happened to the industry.

@lorenbush8876 Год назад

I found a couple of oranges out in the driveway along the side of the street that someone dropped last summer that I have about 7 seedlings from the seeds, they looked like they were in good condition so I juiced them and they were so sweet with no acidity at all, just sweet. Supposedly most citrus is polyembryonic and will grow true from seed and at least part of them will fruit in 2 to 3 years.

@TrishDigginsDesign 5 лет назад

Just goes to show, nature is a wondrous, amazing gift from God. Please keep sharing!

@PeteKanarisGreenDreamsFL 5 лет назад

Trish Diggins 🙌

@danielgorzelniak3209 5 лет назад

Lady go see a doctor.

@charlescanzater 5 лет назад

Thanks for the tips! Mono culture is crazy !

@ianplute7033 2 года назад

Good videos, I have learned of a lot of fruit varieties to grow and am successfully growing Zone 10 suff in Jefferson county. Thanks again for the inspiration. I had to comment as this is occurs in north Florida, we have two citrus varieties a yellow lemon and mandarin that has loose thick skins, that do this naturalization if the winter is light on heavy crop years. Both types have "revived" from greening once pruned like an aged apple (back to main stem in early spring) in home plantings of the varieties. The issue alot have is the nutrients in the soil farther south, clay rifts and silt banks facilitate the seed based propogation further north. Mixed hardwoods and colder winters allow them to grow without many problems, if the area has some pines (basic water will burn them out of iorn if not balanced by evergreens). The seedlings are most useful at the edge of gardens where tilling occurs as the shallow roots will mitigate errosion without choking the vegetables.

@PeteKanarisGreenDreamsFL 2 года назад

Great info

@mortonvrose 5 лет назад

Wow. This brings black memories. In the 80s we lived just west of Orlando and we had abandent trees like those not far from our house. We would go for short walks and feast on these heavenly fruits. Also 1000ns of darkpink wildflowers were growing around there.....great memories. Thanks for sharing and reminding me.

@d00lph1n 5 лет назад

This is so awesome, I wish we had wild citrus here in Norway.

@robradencic4483 5 лет назад

Brings to mind the Moody Blues song, "The Balance." If you've never laid down in an orange grove and stared up at the sky, you should put it on your bucket list.

@kevinmasyon2843 3 года назад

I found a block like that when I lived in North Port, Fla but it is mostly pink grapefruit.The best ever.No sugar required.As long as you took just the meat out of the grapefruit's,delicious.Free for the taking.

@nicholasjay3932 5 лет назад

I also live in Florida near Daytona and the one thing I can find comfort in is the gifts God gives me in my time walking in His garden, the way things happen the way he wants them to. Not the way we want them to, hence our greening problem. I often go foraging just for the smell of the fruits when you rub their skins (even if the feral fruit is acridly bitter). You can't find that in California and Brazilian grown citrus. I just got a kaffir lime tree and have been wondering where to place it, so I think I'll place it under my oak tree area. Super awesome video!

@sizemorej 5 лет назад

Pete could the understory stress the insects that cause the disease while giving habitat fir predators.

@PeteKanarisGreenDreamsFL 5 лет назад

John Sizemore that’s a possibility. I think the biggest difference is living SOIL. Commercial citrus is grown in round up ladened sugar sand and dowsed in chemicals.

@sizemorej 5 лет назад

@@PeteKanarisGreenDreamsFL you are so right the there. The citrus in the drip line also has humidity more stabilized. So many things.

@marshwetland3808 5 лет назад

From soil to canopy, all layers provide habitat for many species and a diverse ecosystem. This is how nature thrives and why monocultures are more like a machine to pump chemicals in and foods out.

@carolynkingsley4421 2 года назад

A lot of things use to grow wild in old Florida. My grandma had a guava tree in her back yard. I use to climb it, sit on a limb and eat until I was nearly sick. Also we had a wild huckleberry patch on our property, from where my mom made pies on a regular basis. Good memories, but thanks to the developers, most of that has disappeared.

@deepdivedeets Год назад

We had a giant wild mulberry tree in our backyard when growing up. We'd climb up and eat until we were sick and come home with stained clothes from sliding down the branches to the ground 😂

@Coolguyallthetime2k 9 месяцев назад

Oh wow! Huckleberry grows wild in Florida? Would love to grow that here!

@williamgilmore4554 5 лет назад

they look a lot like the satsuma. it is a citrus fruit grown in northwest florida and south alabama. absolutely love it, skin comes right off and is not tough at all. really glad to hear of your discovery, that is terrific to find them like that!

@PeteKanarisGreenDreamsFL 5 лет назад

Hey William! The wild satsumas from seed in the woods are sweet too?

@talonflame_brawlstars.7208 3 года назад

I have a decently sized forest near my house. I'm in florida of course so it's a pine forest with many other native trees. There is only one orange tree that grows in that forest, it's super healthy, it grows huge oranges and they look healthy!

@Kevin-vw7yi 5 лет назад

I live in Nassau county and I can tell you , that the map is inaccurate. My trees are gone now do to greening and so are my neighbors. I'm going to try and plant some new ones under the live oaks and water oaks. Anything is worth a try.

@abumuusaamerrickabdalkhabi4656 5 лет назад

that what happens with commercial farming, those trees have develop natural defenses for the area. I would disclose the local and get some clipping

@justinhommerding3693 5 лет назад

Wow. That was just so packed with citrus. So awesome

@jennifermcrae3705 3 года назад

Wow, This reminds me of growing up in Orlando in the 80s. Small orange groves everywhere. It hurts to hear how hard it is to grow citrus in Florida. So sad.

@michaelmongeon9737 5 лет назад

It looks like a satsuma excellent variety.

@adamlotyczewski6478 4 года назад

That was my guess its a mandarin for sure with the "zipper skin". I just ordered my owari satsuma

@j1890 5 лет назад

Had no idea this was a problem. Sounds like a fairytale finding an orange tree to pick from.

@Flowernbloom1 5 лет назад

I’ve been sick the past few days, I have been binge watching your videos. Very relaxing. I love your channel

@PeteKanarisGreenDreamsFL 5 лет назад

Thanks Michelle! I appreciate the support

@onizerg4652 5 лет назад

I had 4 citrus trees growing up that were wild under oaks and mapples. I can say that oaks and maple tree have a symbiotic relationship. The oaks and maple prevent greening and the citrus provides acidic soil that prevent insects that attak maple and other oak tree roots.

@PeteKanarisGreenDreamsFL 5 лет назад

Hey James! Thanks for sharing

@lorebrown5307 5 лет назад

Awesome story and images! I wonder if it's the tannins from the oak keeping the disease at bay, as well as the rotting citrus underneath? Citrus in the understory looks so much prettier than in a monoculture. Makes me feel like my young food forest is on the right track.

@PeteKanarisGreenDreamsFL 5 лет назад

I’m not sure but we need to start paying attention to nature, she has all the answers:) Keep up the good work!

@JohnFilax 5 лет назад

Sounds like the natural eden technique

@lpswarriorfan1868 4 года назад

I grew up in central FL. Lots of wild tangerine and kumquat trees in the woods. Other citrus too, but those seem to really dominate.

@burkluca7738 7 месяцев назад

The neighborhood i grew up in the palm harbor area had wild citrus trees of so many different varieties growing all through the woods. It’s was so cool. The trees are so big and make hundreds of citrus. Some so sweet some not so much. So cool

@VOTE4TAJ 5 лет назад

Incredible! That’s like haven.

@GatorLife57 5 лет назад

W O W....W O W.....W O W How cool Pete !!! That's right down the road from me too !!! So beautiful.... GATOR ORANGE TY 4 sharing. Wolf🐺 👍🍊👍🍊👍

@jcaesar134 9 месяцев назад

Great video. I bought a small Tangerine tree and made a point of planting it in the understory of an oak tree in my yard in Miami because of this video. I hope it works its magic. Thanks for posting this video!

@Sularus76 5 лет назад

My neighbor has lots of of those. I have grapefruit, some type of lemon, and sour orange. I took his tangerines and hope to plant some seeds from his wild trees.

@khmerguidinglife1349 5 лет назад

Cool Just walk in the forest and found some yummy fruits, I love those so much.

@PeteKanarisGreenDreamsFL 5 лет назад

Khmer Guiding Life life is good 😊

@ligynnekenespana 5 лет назад

DANG!!! that is amazing. Now that i think of it when i lived in Sevilla, Spain there were lots of sour orange thriving in Parque Maria Luisa in a dappled light situation. Being curious, i would try random trees from time to time and found one that was delicious and not sour. love those little secret spots. maybe get some of those seeds to someone at citrus research center.

@PeteKanarisGreenDreamsFL 5 лет назад

Lig's Life definitely an epic find! Great idea, we need these genetics in citrus today.

@stephenwhite976 2 года назад

A public land area I hunt in central Florida has a bunch of citrus trees growing the same way in an understory and they look completely healthy and always have fruit on them!

@johnstarnes 5 лет назад

Thank you! My own root organically grown citrus are many years old and are free of greening.

@PeteKanarisGreenDreamsFL 5 лет назад

Thanks awesome John! I’ve been getting some many reports of healthy citrus.

@onghungphung7668 5 лет назад

oh man! Imaging after a long hiking day, feeling thirsty and then you bump into a wild citrus tree like that.

@PeteKanarisGreenDreamsFL 5 лет назад

Would be an epic find! Vitamin C + hydration 🙌

@sgtchill 5 лет назад

Ha Been there done that and it was such a relief

@parkcherrielee168 5 лет назад

Beautiful🍃🍃🍃

@mtdusmc9437 Год назад

I was in the Citrus Wildlife Management Area just north of where this was shot and there are a lot of trees in there with multiple types of citrus. Some tangerines and some oranges.

@reneebrown5598 5 лет назад

I would think having a seedy citrus is a good idea. It means that the healthy vibrant trees can prosper and spread it's genetics to replant and spread thru out the state. I would love to find some naturalized tangerines and/or grapefruit seeds or trees

@BumbleBees77 5 лет назад

Seeds are natural and are full of nutrients..your body burns up the outer layer ..you can make oil out of them too

@PeteKanarisGreenDreamsFL 5 лет назад

Agreed. Oil from citrus seeds? Interesting

@edweenaspritsfiggle5572 5 лет назад

How are they producing sweet fruit in the understory? I thought citrus needed a lot of sunlight?

@Foodie_888 5 лет назад

sugar Perhaps these trees learned how to adapt with little sunlight, part of the naturalized process. A very good thing.

@asupremum1246 5 лет назад

Citrus have always naturally grown in dappled shade in the understory of forests in their native range. Only farmers grow them in full sun where they then need tons of extra water and fertilizer.

@unicornbunny6190 5 лет назад

Actually wild original citrus griws undergrowth. In my country the native wild orange r undergrowth... though r sweet in taste they produce smaller fruits. We also have a native wild variety which produces tiny fruits the size of blue berry.

@insolentstickleback3266 5 лет назад

Love it when some random video shows up in my recommendations and it is awesome!

@PeteKanarisGreenDreamsFL 5 лет назад

Thank you! 🙌

@aaronerskine3401 3 года назад

if anyone is interested, in Tampa at Flatwoods park, on the mountain bike trail that you take from bruce b downs, if you will take the off road trail to section 30 to 32, there is a group of wild citrus trees in the middle of the woods. the oranges are in the very tops which are hard to reach , but very fruitful. the trees look very aged.

@vizwhiz100 5 лет назад

Great find!! Please send me a seed!🤗 I loved those tangerines growing up in south florida - super easy to peel and tasted like a tangerine should!

@anasmrright 5 лет назад

God's way is always better than man's way.

@mibrinabreen 5 лет назад

MOTHER NATURE! ...

@tronixfix 5 лет назад

Nature, not god!

@puregameplay7916 5 лет назад

Which god are you referring to, the one you were brainwashed into believing as a child based on geography?

@Driv3ndx 5 лет назад

@@puregameplay7916 God the father. Jesus Christ. HOLY SPIRIT

@puregameplay7916 5 лет назад

@@Driv3ndx You do know that jesus was a middle eastern jew and looks nothing like what you think he does? Your religion is also just based on geography and not faith. If you were born in India you would probably be hindu, fact.

@chase1671 5 лет назад

Brought tears to my eyes 😂 beautiful vid Pete!

@AvaJun 5 лет назад

Just came across your video and will be subbing. They look just like Japanese mikan , a variety of Mandarin orange. I'm from Japan, currently in central east Florida, and I also had a tree in my yard like those in Northern Florida. They usually grow during the winter months and they do get very sweet. Great find!!

@mibrinabreen 5 лет назад

Congrats! Have an amzing time! Wishin all Good Things to You and Yours...

@rushdiahmad2435 5 лет назад

Those probably Mandarin oranges from the looks of it, yes they are sweet..

@angelicatitus 5 лет назад

Amazing! And so beautiful🍊

@robertmathurin2544 5 лет назад

You're right,,they are tangerines,, there is a yellow one as well.. thanks for the video..am from somewhere in there Caribbean..they love thriving in areas like this..